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Adder · « **Reply #2250 on:** August 21, 2021, 11:34:23 PM »

Liam Livingstone is extremely dangerous in the short forms of the game and the name of the moment but he has a grand total of 65 runs at an average of 10 in 5 games in the County Championship this year. It would be bordering on farcical to select him in the test squad with that sort of record and unfair on the likes of Libby and Carlson who both have around 790 runs in 10 games at an average of 60 plus.

GREGMT · « **Reply #2251 on:** August 23, 2021, 09:51:54 AM »

Livingstone is a big character and big game player.

Not only have they been better technically, they have won the sledging war, just as the Aussies did in the 80s and 90s.

England reflect Root, quiet and passive. India reflect Kohli, passionate, aggressive, demonstrative.

I have already vouched for Jake Libby's inclusion.

The changes for this upcoming Test are way too minimal.

Adder · « **Reply #2252 on:** August 23, 2021, 11:54:42 AM »

Quote from: GREGMT on August 23, 2021, 09:51:54 AM

Livingstone is a big character and big game player.

Not only have they been better technically, they have won the sledging war, just as the Aussies did in the 80s and 90s.

England reflect Root, quiet and passive. India reflect Kohli, passionate, aggressive, demonstrative.

I have already vouched for Jake Libby's inclusion.

The changes for this upcoming Test are way too minimal.

Could have said the same about Jason Roy before his major flop at test level...that alone shouldn't be enough to secure a test spot. Livingstone himself has commented that what he's doing isn't transferrable to the longer format of the game especially at test level. If he wants to have a test career then I hope at some stage he will forgo some of the T20/hundred fests around the world and stack up some red ball runs. Of course he'll be raking it in from the shorter formats so may decide not to.

GREGMT · « **Reply #2253 on:** August 23, 2021, 08:44:27 PM »

Quote from: Adder on August 23, 2021, 11:54:42 AM

Could have said the same about Jason Roy before his major flop at test level...that alone shouldn't be enough to secure a test spot. Livingstone himself has commented that what he's doing isn't transferrable to the longer format of the game especially at test level. If he wants to have a test career then I hope at some stage he will forgo some of the T20/hundred fests around the world and stack up some red ball runs. Of course he'll be raking it in from the shorter formats so may decide not to.

Until Livingstone fails at Test level after a period of time, then parellels cannot be drawn with Roy in Tests.

I'd rather be picking a guy in form in white ball Cricket than desperately clinging to the hope that batsman out of their depth can somehow get big scores versus a world class attack!

No one has a huge amount of red ball cricket and anyway a lot of these guys were pulverised by India in February and March and are probably carrying mental scare from those losses.

Adder · « **Reply #2254 on:** August 23, 2021, 09:53:59 PM »

Quote from: GREGMT on August 23, 2021, 08:44:27 PM

Until Livingstone fails at Test level after a period of time, then parellels cannot be drawn with Roy in Tests.

I'd rather be picking a guy in form in white ball Cricket than desperately clinging to the hope that batsman out of their depth can somehow get big scores versus a world class attack!

No one has a huge amount of red ball cricket and anyway a lot of these guys were pulverised by India in February and March and are probably carrying mental scare from those losses.

OK that's fine if you want Livingstone. I don't agree because of his total lack of red ball runs (failures when he has played it this summer). I just think there are others that have performed in red ball this summer who are more deserving of the chance. I agree it's not easy against this attack.

DaveWBA · « **Reply #2255 on:** August 25, 2021, 12:00:31 PM »

Jimmy Anderson doing Jimmy Anderson things.

LiamTheBaggie · « **Reply #2256 on:** August 25, 2021, 12:15:22 PM »

He is just amazing. There are no words to describe him.

I've got tickets for day 4. Looking forward to it.

Albionic · « **Reply #2257 on:** August 25, 2021, 12:15:36 PM »

Quote from: DaveWBA on August 25, 2021, 12:00:31 PM

Jimmy Anderson doing Jimmy Anderson things.

How will we ever replace this guy? I don't think we can !

DaveWBA · « **Reply #2258 on:** August 25, 2021, 01:42:33 PM »

Quote from: Albionic on August 25, 2021, 12:15:36 PM

How will we ever replace this guy? I don't think we can !

We don't.

We have to hope we can eek a few more years out of Broad and Robinson looks a find. The way Silverwood has treated Archer, Wood and Stone I don't hold out any hope for them being mainstays in the team in the coming years.

LiamTheBaggie · « **Reply #2259 on:** August 25, 2021, 01:58:03 PM »

Ollie Robinson has been a great find. Very much looks the part.

BaggiePhil · « **Reply #2260 on:** August 25, 2021, 02:21:53 PM »

On Sky TV just saw a guy in a West Brom shirt talking to someone in a Arsenal Shirt in the crowd at Headingly. What are the odds on the day of the game between us and Arsenal?

DaveWBA · « **Reply #2261 on:** August 25, 2021, 03:06:35 PM »

78 a/o for India.

A free hit for England to get themselves back into a series they should be 0-2 down in.

MarkW · « **Reply #2262 on:** August 25, 2021, 03:07:24 PM »

Quote from: BaggiePhil on August 25, 2021, 02:21:53 PM

On Sky TV just saw a guy in a West Brom shirt talking to someone in a Arsenal Shirt in the crowd at Headingly. What are the odds on the day of the game between us and Arsenal?

Probably more likely than if we weren't?

BaggiePhil · « **Reply #2263 on:** August 25, 2021, 03:16:12 PM »

Quote from: MarkW on August 25, 2021, 03:07:24 PM

Probably more likely than if we weren't?

Long way from home up there. Cant see either of them making the game. Shame he had the new baggies home shirt on. Still don't like it.

LiamTheBaggie · « **Reply #2264 on:** August 25, 2021, 03:33:35 PM »

Quote from: DaveWBA on August 25, 2021, 03:06:35 PM

78 a/o for India.

A free hit for England to get themselves back into a series they should be 0-2 down in.

I hope it makes day 4 at this rate

gerry m · « **Reply #2265 on:** August 25, 2021, 04:07:09 PM »

Congratulations to the England bowlers. Now lets hope the batsmen can do there job!

LiamTheBaggie · « **Reply #2266 on:** August 25, 2021, 06:45:24 PM »

What a day of test cricket - England 120-0 at close

TheJacko2000 · « **Reply #2267 on:** August 25, 2021, 07:24:11 PM »

Quote from: LiamTheBaggie on August 25, 2021, 06:45:24 PM

What a day of test cricket - England 120-0 at close

Take Sibley out and reap the rewards

LiamTheBaggie · « **Reply #2268 on:** August 25, 2021, 07:41:27 PM »

Quote from: TheJacko2000 on August 25, 2021, 07:24:11 PM

Take Sibley out and reap the rewards

Hopefully Warwickshire reap the rewards on friday

TheJacko2000 · « **Reply #2269 on:** August 25, 2021, 08:24:38 PM »

Quote from: LiamTheBaggie on August 25, 2021, 07:41:27 PM

Hopefully Warwickshire reap the rewards on friday

Why? Are they going to drop him too?

Baggies · « **Reply #2270 on:** August 25, 2021, 09:07:07 PM »

Loved the performance, couldn't believe when I saw we had them for 78, then got to watch Burns and Hameed have their fun. You feel this knock alone might be enough to give this opening pair the run to the Ashes now.

LiamTheBaggie · « **Reply #2271 on:** August 26, 2021, 08:47:08 AM »

Really looking forward to seeing what the day entails.

Saw a great stat earlier - this has been Englandâ€™s best opening partnership since the second innings of the first test when we faced India in 2016 - the game noted as been Hameedâ€™s debut.

Fritzl Palace · « **Reply #2272 on:** August 26, 2021, 09:26:10 AM »

Quote from: TheJacko2000 on August 25, 2021, 08:24:38 PM

Why? Are they going to drop him too?

Dom Sibley, the Sam Johnstone of the cricketing world

Baggies · « **Reply #2273 on:** August 26, 2021, 01:59:06 PM »

A shame Burns and Hameed couldn't quite convert their half centuries into really.big scores. Hameed in particular ended up like a stalled car up a steep hill, unable to get started again and facing nearly 5 overs without a run before losing his wicket.

Malan and Root going fairly well though, we really should be looking to have this all finished within 4 days now and without batting again.

lewisant · « **Reply #2274 on:** August 26, 2021, 03:23:59 PM »

Proper test cricket this, it's been a while! Do we think they'll add as much as possible and get India on the crease for the final session to try and take a few wickets before the close of play?