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Ok here's an interesting one:

https://www.efl.com/news/2019/june/new-recruitment-regulation-introduced-to-help-improve-equality/

EFL clubs must interview at least one Black and Asian person for first team management vacancies.

I don't see how this will help improve the situation.

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General Football & Sports / Wayne Hennessey & education
« on: April 20, 2019, 10:49:01 AM »
Just read about Wayne Hennessey and the Nazi salute photo.

If you're not sure what happened, he was photographed at a party making the Hitler moustache and the Nazi salute. He denied it, saying he was shouting to the person taking the photo, The FA investigated it and cleared him on the basis he said he didn't know what a Nazi salute was.

Roy Hodgson has now come out saying WH is desperate to learn about Hitler etc and that he's not sure what kids are being taught these days.

The whole thing sounds dodgy to me. You'd have to live in a remote village with some tribe who's never seen civilisation not to know who the Nazis are. (Now waiting for the Welsh comments to start...) and as a pro GK I expect he heard about Mark Bosnich, as well as other extreme supporters in Europe who made the news because of Nazi flags?

With regards racism, it's said time and time again that education is needed. But is it? I used to teach history at a secondary school and WW2 was a big topic. Everyone studied it at some point at varying levels. And it still didn't stop kids from getting the meaning of racism confused.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / The Double
« on: April 13, 2019, 10:41:32 PM »
This season we've done the double over 4 teams: QPR, Preston, Stoke and Swansea. And we can still do Reading and Rotherham.

Does anyone know the last time we did the double over one team, let alone at least four?

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Play offs
« on: March 26, 2019, 01:25:35 PM »
Barring a full scale disaster, we should make the play offs. I can't see the 7 point gap between us and second shrinking that much and we're 10 points clear of 7th.

So with all this in mind, who do you think will finish in positions 3-6, and ideally, who would you like to play and who in general would you like to avoid?

I'd like to avoid Leeds and Boro. I think Leeds would turn us over with ease and Boro would no doubt manage two 1-0 scraped victories. I'm also convinced that Villa would prove to be a tough test now they have JG back, but with it being a derby it would just depend on the day.

I'd feel most confident playing against Sheff Utd, Preston or Derby. I think we've learned a lot since playing Sheff Utd, so I think we could match them if not slightly better them.

3 Sheffield Utd
4 WBA
5 Derby
6 Middlesbrough

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West Bromwich Albion FC / What do you want changed?
« on: March 11, 2019, 01:41:38 PM »
Keeping things realistic, what would you like to see changed within the team when the new boss comes in?

Personally, I don't think there's any point in moaning about the owners/investment, as I can't see them going anywhere any time soon.


For me, the things I'd like to see changed are:

+ Bond being given the occasional league game in goal. GKs should always feel they are in a competition for the number 1 jersey.

+ Only using the passing out from goal kicks every so often, not as our first and only plan. Mix it up.

+ Players being played in their natural position, unless of injury/suspension. Stop setting players up to fail, especially the young players, who shouldn't be put in that situation.

+ Pressing the opposition when we don't have possession. We always sit back and invite pressure.

There's plenty more, but I think even by changing these areas of our game we could start turning performances around.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Vintage style kit vs Modern style kit
« on: February 22, 2019, 10:09:45 PM »
Stoke City GK to wear commemorative strip:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47332164

And we all remember the kit against Leicester:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/10/west-brom-launch-jeff-astle-foundation-leicester-city

I think there's something amazing about seeing your team play in a vintage style kit. I loved our kit vs Leicester a few years back. And when the Artist in Residence paintings were open for viewing, I had a look round the room at some of the old trophies and kits from the early to mid 1900s.

My question is this:

Should West Brom bring out a classic style football kit as our official kit (even just for one season)? ie no sponsor/badge, made from the thicker material. I know you can buy the vintage shirts from the club shop, from back in the day, but I'm talking an official kit that the players wear for league matches throughout the season.

I appreciate club sponsors could hinder such an idea, but if there was a way around it, what do you think?

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Fans reminded of ticket conditions
« on: February 13, 2019, 05:38:22 PM »
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2019/february/fans-reminded-of-ticket-conditions/

I've often wondered about a couple of things mentioned here.

What's the point in the 'pat down' at the turnstiles if items are still getting into the stadium? It either needs to be done properly or not at all. With terrorism threat so high, I'm surprised there isn't a more serious approach to this. If cannisters are making their way in, it would be easy for weapons to make their way in.

And with regards buying concession tickets, I wonder why they don't check more tickets upon entry. I've never been checked and I've often wondered if people actually buy concession tickets when they're adults. This shows that 30 have been caught, but there's probably a lot more that get away with it. I don't understand how cheap some people can be. If you can't afford the price of a match ticket (I often can't to be honest), then don't go. Don't scam the club and insult fellow supporters by buying kids tickets if you're an adult. It doesn't make you a super fan by buying concession tickets just so you can gain entry.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Goals
« on: January 13, 2019, 11:46:31 PM »
It's nice to keep hearing on the radio, TV, social media etc that we're the Championship's top scorers. I've missed hearing positives, because it feels as though for the past 8 years we've been bombarded with negative media. It's also superb that we have two players in the top 10 goal scorers in the league at present.

Just looking at the statistics of goal scoring at the top (as of 13th Jan, after 27 games):

Goals for / Avg. per game
WBA 55 / 2.03
Norwich 49 / 1.81
Leeds 46 / 1.70
Sheff Utd 46 / 1.70
Derby 38 / 1.40
Boro 30 / 1.11

At this point we have 25 goals more than Boro. I think that says a lot about the difference in style.

It will be interesting to see how we go on from here now that Barnes has gone back to Leicester and look back to compare the two positions come the end of the season. Barnes grabbed 9 goals and 6 assists for us. (I realise we played 26 games with Harvey, I just happened to start the stats from now, our goal average would be 2.07 if you take away the one goal vs Norwich).

It will also be interesting to see where the assists come from because we really need the others to step up now. I fancy Holgate to get a few.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / 2017/18 Season review
« on: May 13, 2018, 08:21:33 PM »
First off, I appreciate relegation is never easy to take, and after the season we've had it would be easy to sum it up in one word! But I think there's plenty to take from this season.

So, what are some of your highlights and lowlights. Doesn't have to be to do with things on the pitch, feel free to include personal events linked to the season.

For me, I'm going to start with a positive.

The home game vs Huddersfield was my 5 year old's first ever match. When I bought the tickets a few weeks before, he marked it on his calendar and counted down the sleeps until the day. Then the day arrived. When we got into the ground around 2.45, his face lit up as he saw how big it was and how loud the singing was. We were on the second row of the Halford's, so we had a good view of the players. Yes, we lost, but I have to say it was one of my favourite matches. I've been going up since 1994 and to think that my lad was happy and excited watching the Albion made my eyes fill up if I'm honest. He was disappointed we lost, but he enjoyed the game and has since asked when we can go again. His favourite players were McClean and Rondon, and every time he hears their names on the radio he shouts out! I was a bit worried he'd lose interest, but my heart skipped a beat when we got home after the match and he wanted to have game of footy, and guess which team he wanted to be  :D

Aside from an early victory, a fairly non-existent opening few months under Pulis saw us spiralling down. We had little possession and the football was abysmal. It was the right decision to sack him, but the wrong decision to appoint Pardew. I accept that the offers to manage us were few and far between, but I think I'd have preferred a manager from a lower league, than someone like Pardew who has an awful record at every PL club he's been at. But I guess that's the benefit of hindsight.

January saw us beat Brighton comfortably, with the lads putting in a very solid performance. I think, like many, that felt like it was a turning point. Even a victory at Anfield was short-lived with the trip to Spain shortly after a complete shambles.

Other positives include the victories at Old Trafford and St James Park, and the last minute winner against Spurs rejuvenated my love for the Albion. Something that has been lost for a number of years really. For the past few years, I think I've felt relieved when we've won, rather than joyful. So a drop down to the Championship may do us a world of good, providing we invest well in the Summer.

In theory, it was great seeing players like Greg and Sturridge on our books, even if they didn't really pay off. I think it speaks volumes about where we've been and where we're headed. When I first started going up we didn't have any international players. Now we have half the squad on international duty.

Obvious negatives include finishing bottom, seeing us throw away so many points from winning positions and hearing about so much turmoil going on in the dressing room. I don't think we've had a season quite like it, with the dressing room bust up, the Cab Four and the unnecessary racism incident. And seeing such a clear out at the top can be good for the club, but can also be a case of too much, too soon.

I'm grateful to Big Dave for all that he has done since he took charge, and he deserved Manager of the Month. I hope he stays with us on some level next season.

Overall, I have mixed feelings about the season. Some lows, but also some personal highs. Hopefully, we'll have a good summer and get straight to business on the opening day of the season.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Formation and style
« on: November 27, 2017, 02:12:23 AM »
Now that TP has gone, we have an exciting opportunity to be positive again. Personally, I feel as though my life is surrounded by negativity and I want to feel good about something. I fell out of love with football under TP, but now I want to enjoy it again, as I'm sure we all do.

So with that in mind, what do YOU want to see at the Hawthorns?

Think about formation and style and consider things realistically.

I want us to stop time wasting, to get the passing football back, and to show the PL that we aren't just here to make up the numbers.

I would like us to go 4-1-4-1, with just the one defensive midfielder and make good use of the wings. I would give mclean more match time and utilise some of the midfield talent. It's no wonder we haven't been scoring, when it's left up to one striker and 8 defensive players on the pitch.

The idea behind this thread is to get away from the TP discussion and really think about where we want to go as a club, no negativity. Let's get the feel good factor back among the fans.

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General Football & Sports / Footballers and depression
« on: October 12, 2017, 10:57:18 AM »
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/kirkland-i-was-close-to-suicide/ar-AAtjhou?li=AA572I&ocid=spartandhp

Saw this article just. I have shared in on here because it's Albion related, but it shows how common depression is in sport. I suppose you could say how common it is in life, thinking back to the deaths of celebrities like Robin Williams and Chester Bennington fairly recently. Some tend to think that because someone is rich or famous that they don't have any problems, but if anything, they possibly have it worse as they feel they can't trust anyone, and that they've been led to believe that money buys you happiness.

It's a shame that this is so prevalent, but it is good that more and more are talking about it. I've had therapy for depression and it really helped. I would encourage anyone who feels suicidal or depressed to talk to their GP and ask for help. If you're not happy with the service you receive, ask to be referred to another GP or mental health care worker.

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General Football & Sports / Ugo Ehiogu dies of heart attack at 44
« on: April 20, 2017, 04:59:52 PM »
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39660196

Ugo Ehiogu has collapsed, suspected heart attack. Hope he's ok.

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It's almost on a daily basis that it's in the media that "football is full of homophobia", so I thought I'd see what fans thought/believed generally.

Without going by what you hear in the media, have you personally experienced/heard homophobic abuse when attending the Hawthorns?

The realistic part of my brain says surely there must have been, but I honestly can't recall an incident of homophobic abuse, either aimed at a player or fellow fan. The only sex-linked abuse I can recall is that of footballers who have famous wives, such as Pesch (when at Stoke), Beckham, Gerrard.

I teach in a secondary school, and again, it's a hot topic that there needs to be less homophobic remarks. But in reality, I've split up more fights over one kid saying something inappropriate about another kid's mom than I have due to homophobic remarks. That being said, I do see more and more young boys flirting and touching one another. When spoken to and told how it is not appropriate for anyone to be touching etc in class, the response is often "it's the 21st century, we're allowed to express ourselves." I guess I'm just not sure why kids think it's a new thing to the 21st century.

So is homophobic abuse the 21st century's version of bananas being thrown at black players in the 70s/80s?

If this poll/thread is in the wrong place, feel free to move. Just thought it links directly to personal visits to the Albion, so thought it would be worth discussing.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Comparison with former League opponents
« on: October 01, 2016, 05:27:32 PM »
I've been thinking about where we are in the league, as well as general feelings towards our style of play. Like most, I feel a bit fed up of low possession games, the lack in number of quality signings and ambition.

But on the other hand, I decided to look up where some of the other teams are whom we used to play on a fairly regular basis, before we became an established PL team. So while I'm not saying "be careful what you wish for", it's worth looking at where we've gone and where some of our former league opponents are, and what the comparative journeys have been like over the past 20 years.

In the following list I've only included teams in leagues lower than the Championship. Many of the teams who have tasted PL football have only done so briefly, whereas others have never been in the top flight.

League 1:
Scunthorpe Utd (Remember that 5-0 where Super Kev missed a pen to claim his hat-trick)
Bradford City (A 0-0 at Valley Parade when Alan Miller had coins thrown at him by home fans)
Port Vale
Sheffield Utd
Bolton Wanderers (Kamara missed than pen and we went on to lose 2-0 at the Reebok)
Peterborough Utd
Charlton Athletic (Andy Hunt's in-off-the-post shot on a rainy Wednesday night)
Oxford Utd
Millwall
Swindon Town (That 5-2 home defeat was atrocious)
Southend Utd
Oldham Athletic (Donovan's back-post shot before jumping into the Smethwick, leading to a 3-1 win)
Coventry City

League 2:
Luton Town
Portsmouth (that Gary Strodder leg breaker in the mid-90s)
Notts County
Grimsby Town (Never forget that 5-1 hammering at their ground in '98)

National League:
Tranmere Rovers (We always seemed to lose to them, except for that awesome 5-1 home win)

NL North:
Stockport County (I remember a good 3-2 home win over them in the 90s I think)

I think it's good to reflect on some positives every now and then, as Pulis-ball is annoying me a bit, but I'm still happy to be in the PL.

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General Football & Sports / Football Scandals
« on: June 10, 2016, 08:20:31 PM »
With the news breaking that David de gea has denied forcing a woman to take part in a sex orgy, it got me thinking.

Are there more scandals in football now than in years gone by, or has it always been the same?

What do you think? If things have changed, what do you think has caused it, or is it simply that we hear about things more thanks to technology?

Personally I think things are worse and that it's down to all the money being pumped into football and players' banks.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Bad boys / villains vs Albion
« on: May 18, 2015, 04:43:10 PM »
I was watching Albion vs Bolton from 96/97 I think it was, when Gerry Taggart played and fouled Pesch right in front of the Brummie Road. It finished 2-2.

It got me thinking, who have you seen over the years as a visiting player who has been a bit of a panto villain?

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General Football & Sports / North vs South All-Star Match
« on: February 16, 2015, 03:35:37 PM »
In the USA, the various sporting leagues host an All-Star match. Usually the match is East vs West, with players from teams in those regions joining forces.

Would you welcome such a thing within the Premier League?

If so, when should the match take place? Christmas, end of season, start of season...

I thought the PL could have a North vs South All-Star game or two (home and away) with players from the following teams:

North
Newcastle United
Sunderland
Burnley
Everton
Liverpool
Stoke City
Manchester City
Manchester United
Leicester City
Hull City

South
West Bromwich Albion
Aston Villa
Swansea City
Southampton
Arsenal
Chelsea
Tottenham Hotspur
West Ham
Crystal Palace
Queens Park Rangers

At least one player from each club should be chosen by a panel.

Just an idea. Think it could catch on? Would probably be a big money maker from tickets, merch and TV revenue.

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General Football & Sports / Your PL XI - 2014/15
« on: January 29, 2015, 08:44:33 PM »
Who would make your Premier League team for this season?

Here's my team:

                             De Gea


     Clyne        Smalling      Cahill     Kolarov


                            Yaya Toure

            Hazard                             Barkley


       Kane            Sergio Aguero            Berahino



A very attacking team, with plenty of pace and a mix of youth and experience.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / 21 years ago today...
« on: January 01, 2015, 11:38:37 AM »
21 years ago today was my first Albion game with my dad.

Luton Town at home, 1-1 draw, with Micky Melon scoring Albion's goal. We sat in the Rainbow stand, as it was called, and Albion wore the barcode kit.

One thing that sticks out in my memory is the awful bright orange kit Luton wore that day!

Do you have any vivid memories from your first Albion match?

Was it home or away? What was the score?

It would be interesting to hear some stories.

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General Football & Sports / What should be done about diving?
« on: December 14, 2014, 05:20:14 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30466308

It's a hot topic at the moment, and we've been on the end of a few bad decisions in recent seasons, and although it wasn't classed as a dive, our visit to Stamford Bridge last season saw a dodgy penalty given to Chelsea.

So let's have some suggestions as to what the FA can do to get diving out of the game.

I've added some ideas into the poll but left an option for 'Other' where you can make a suggestion in your comment.

Personally, I think if the PL deduct a point from a team for each dive that happens, that will soon get managers and chairmen off their backsides to stop the cheating.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Where are the goals going to come from?
« on: August 31, 2014, 03:33:10 PM »
Been thinking about our strike force, and about who our out-and-out strikers are. Currently, I think we only have Anichebe and Brown, as the others are often used out wide or as attacking midfielders.

Looking at the stats, our top scorer hasn't got to ten goals on four occasions in the PL (02/03 with 5 goals, 05/06 with 5 goals, 08/09 with 8 goals and last season with 5 goals). 3 out of 4 of those seasons we've been relegated, and only survived last season on goal difference as Norwich's was much worse than ours.

So I don't want to start with the whole negativity thing, as we're only three games into this season. But I have to say that the developing trend is that if our top scorer(s) isn't getting to 10+ goals, it doesn't look good for survival.

Where do you think the goals are going to come from this season? I'm hoping that Brown settles in and becomes a Lukaku for us as I think he has the ability, he just needs someone to work with.

Thoughts?

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Random (or useless) Albion facts
« on: February 23, 2014, 12:03:21 AM »
Feel a bit deflated after todays game and the run we've been on, so we could do with something to cheer us up a little! What better than random, or indeed, useless facts about West Bromwich Albion!

It can be about anything linked to the club - players, stadium, kits, sponsors, games, attendances.....

I'll get the ball rolling:

Ben Foster kicks with his left foot but writes with his right hand, whereas Super Bob Taylor is the opposite. He scores with his right foot and writes left handed! How about that?!  :P

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Some positivity to try and lift the spirits
« on: February 02, 2014, 12:04:42 AM »
Right folks, I'm not all that happy about the amount of negative comments that are floating about on here.

I'm used to hearing the media slate us, as well as fans from other teams, but not from within. It has to stop. Yes, we're all tense at this time, hoping for a change of fortune, but I don't see why we need to keep having such negative threads appearing about who's to blame for this and that, or where the transfer money is and so on.

Let's have some positive posts in this thread please. I'd rather anyone who wants to post negative comments keep it to another thread.

I'll kick off:

Brunt's goal at Villa was a beauty. The past few games he's reminded me of the Brunt of old, plus it's about time we started getting some goals on Goal of the Month FOR us rather than against us!  :P

I also think Berahino is coming on leaps and bounds. Every time I see him he seems to have progressed somehow. He's a fantastic player - his touch, his desire to want the ball and do something with it, and no matter what the score is when he plays, he always seems to lift the team. I can only imagine that the boss thinks he is more of an impact player, rather than a starter. He will get more starts, especially with Long gone and Anelka possibly receiving a ban, perhaps just needs a little time.

I'm quite excited about Dawson as a future prospect. He reminds me of Paul Mardon a little, with his play and commitment to tackles.

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General Football & Sports / Goal of 2013
« on: January 01, 2014, 09:37:27 AM »
What's your goal of 2013?

There have been some fantastic goals, but I think my favourite one was RVP against Aston Villa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DjLzd0vQ8o

The pass from Rooney is exquisite and the finish is simply amazing.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Your starting XI
« on: December 21, 2013, 05:16:17 PM »
So with Clarke gone, a poor result at home to Hull, and a busy period coming up, who would be in your starting XI? The Squad desparately  needs changing around.

My team:

GK Foster

RB Jones
CB McAuley (Capt)
CB Dawson (I'm sure his passing must be better than Olsson's)
LB Ridgewell (best of a bad bunch)

DM Mulumbu
DM Yacob

RW Amalfitano (Has skill, no doubt about it)
AM Dorrans/Rosenberg (Needs to get some game time)
LW Berahino (Whoever it is should be receiving decent passes, NOT balls being fired AT them or so close to the touch line they can't keep it in)

ST Vydra

With a lot of games coming up we will obviously need to make changes in various positions, but hopefully ones like Brunt, Olsson, Sessegnon and Long will be dropped to make room for some of the other players.

Thoughts?

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