[luke.jones1234]

Cole who scored more goals than BTA whilst playing at the same level

Exactly this ,we don’t miss bta at all it’s just the fact the manager who doesn’t give Cole a chance ,I would argue if Cole played as many times as assante did last season he wouldent be far off his goal return

[zippyandbungle]

Didn't 6 of them play at Fleetwood? and if they had been good enough to get a result  they would have got more gametime no doubt that loss was Corberans fault for making to many changes.

So to be clear you are saying they got one start and should have won and they didn’t so they didn’t deserve more game time
So let’s talk about the team that played against
Oxford& Wednesday??

[zippyandbungle]

Exactly this ,we don’t miss bta at all it’s just the fact the manager who doesn’t give Cole a chance ,I would argue if Cole played as many times as assante did last season he wouldent be far off his goal return

And wouldn’t be offside half as many times either.

[Fritzl Palace]

Let's face it, there is only one outgoing this summer that we miss in any way, shape or form and that is Yokulsu. All others that left were either massively past it, or dire footballers.

[iwastherein68]

Let's face it, there is only one outgoing this summer that we miss in any way, shape or form and that is Yokulsu. All others that left were either massively past it, or dire footballers.

Kipre

[Fritzl Palace]

Kipre

True, I was thinking of players we allowed to leave, that one was sadly very much out of our hands

[robnewbold]

I have just looked at the league table and noticed we have now plummeted disastrously to 4 points behind top spot since our thrashing by Oxford United at the weekend.
It is obvious that Corberan has no idea what he is doing, our first few wins were due to more luck than judgement and that as soon as we come up against teams that can play football we will slide further into total oblivion. League 1 is just around the corner.
All talk of stability, long term strategy and planned rebuild is ridiculous. This guy was brought in to guarantee promotion by Christmas on the back of a 100% win record.
The fact that we have little or no cash, are under EFL restrictions and have the 10th valued squad in the league are totally irrelevant.
This squad is guaranteed automatic promotion under any other Manager.
 What are we waiting for? Corberan out!

[NJS]

For the avoidance of any doubt by some posters on here; he's being ironic.

[Albionic]

For the avoidance of any doubt by some posters on here; he's being ironic.

For the avoidance of doubt !   Who ??

[saltnshake]

So to be clear you are saying they got one start and should have won and they didn’t so they didn’t deserve more game time
So let’s talk about the team that played against
Oxford& Wednesday??

No I'm saying none of them played well enough to warrant being selected  above  the players that started the first 5 or 6 games, but had they won would have got more game time in the next round, Corberan picked the wrong team against Wednesday although  his hand was partly forced by the injuries to Mowatt and Molumby he should have put an extra midfielder  in with  Diakite and Racic  even though that would have meant leaving  out a more attacking player,  nothing wrong with the team that started against Oxford as the first half proved and second half we were comfortable playing against a team that just wanted to stay in the game  and offered very little  and but for individual mistakes not tactical ones ended up only getting a point,

[zippyandbungle]

No I'm saying none of them played well enough to warrant being selected  above  the players that started the first 5 or 6 games, but had they won would have got more game time in the next round, Corberan picked the wrong team against Wednesday although  his hand was partly forced by the injuries to Mowatt and Molumby he should have put an extra midfielder  in with  Diakite and Racic  even though that would have meant leaving  out a more attacking player,  nothing wrong with the team that started against Oxford as the first half proved and second half we were comfortable playing against a team that just wanted to stay in the game  and offered very little  and but for individual mistakes not tactical ones ended up only getting a point,

At the point we played Fleetwood,let’s assume we won 4-0 …
If the players on league duty were in an undefeated streak,why would he have changed the team ?
Styles,Frabrotta,Diakite ALL looked good when coming on against Boro/Stoke …non of them have been in since ….it just doesn’t make rational sense .

[zippyandbungle]

I have just looked at the league table and noticed we have now plummeted disastrously to 4 points behind top spot since our thrashing by Oxford United at the weekend.
It is obvious that Corberan has no idea what he is doing, our first few wins were due to more luck than judgement and that as soon as we come up against teams that can play football we will slide further into total oblivion. League 1 is just around the corner.
All talk of stability, long term strategy and planned rebuild is ridiculous. This guy was brought in to guarantee promotion by Christmas on the back of a 100% win record.
The fact that we have little or no cash, are under EFL restrictions and have the 10th valued squad in the league are totally irrelevant.
This squad is guaranteed automatic promotion under any other Manager.
 What are we waiting for? Corberan out!

Great sarcasm,not too sure how it enhances the “keep Corberan at all costs” point ?
There are no managers in world football without errors,but the better managers in their leagues make use of the resources at their disposal,plan execute and change when and where necessary …
Not sure throwing Jed on every match at the 69th minute is going to go down as managerial masterclass ?
Were you happy with the performance against Plymouth?
Since then is 2 from 12 points an acceptable return ?

[timdon]

Great sarcasm,not too sure how it enhances the “keep Corberan at all costs” point ?
There are no managers in world football without errors,but the better managers in their leagues make use of the resources at their disposal,plan execute and change when and where necessary …
Not sure throwing Jed on every match at the 69th minute is going to go down as managerial masterclass ?
Were you happy with the performance against Plymouth?
Since then is 2 from 12 points an acceptable return ?

All teams go through periods where their form changes for the better or worse. It would be absurd to think about changing the manager who got us to the play offs last season, and when we currently sit in 5th position this season. When you look back at the last 10 full time managers we have had- Bruce, Ismael, Allardyce, Bilic, Moore, Pardew, Pulis, Irvine, Mel - is there a single one who you think did a better job in the circumstances that they found themselves in than Corberan? He's doing an excellent job in my eyes.

[zippyandbungle]

All teams go through periods where their form changes for the better or worse. It would be absurd to think about changing the manager who got us to the play offs last season, and when we currently sit in 5th position this season. When you look back at the last 10 full time managers we have had- Bruce, Ismael, Allardyce, Bilic, Moore, Pardew, Pulis, Irvine, Mel - is there a single one who you think did a better job in the circumstances that they found themselves in than Corberan? He's doing an excellent job in my eyes.

I’ve said previously that the fact that Corberan isn’t Bruce/Mel/Pardew shouldn’t mean he escapes fair critic …
There is no way after going 1-0 up at Oxford we don’t get three points with Pullis
Billic would definitely pushed for the second / third
But the argument side tracks from the actual point ,Corberan,Despite doing some good work and having some good results here,does seem to be negative ,overly cautious and stubborn to the point of not having another way or being able to utilise the squad at his disposal .

[timdon]

I’ve said previously that the fact that Corberan isn’t Bruce/Mel/Pardew shouldn’t mean he escapes fair critic …
There is no way after going 1-0 up at Oxford we don’t get three points with Pullis
Billic would definitely pushed for the second / third
But the argument side tracks from the actual point ,Corberan,Despite doing some good work and having some good results here,does seem to be negative ,overly cautious and stubborn to the point of not having another way or being able to utilise the squad at his disposal .

I agree of course that he is not above criticism but, on balance would you want to get rid of him and roll the dice that we could find someone better or not?

[zippyandbungle]

I agree of course that he is not above criticism but, on balance would you want to get rid of him and roll the dice that we could find someone better or not?

I’d prefer he stops being so one way and used ALL of the tools at his disposal .
My main fear is that he (the tactics) have been worked out and that teams know how to stop us,which would explain the last 4/5 matches …
At which point does someone pull him in to the office if the average of the last 4 games continues ?
2/12 is poor for us
4/24 would surely mean action ?

[timdon]

I’d prefer he stops being so one way and used ALL of the tools at his disposal .
My main fear is that he (the tactics) have been worked out and that teams know how to stop us,which would explain the last 4/5 matches …
At which point does someone pull him in to the office if the average of the last 4 games continues ?
2/12 is poor for us
4/24 would surely mean action ?

If I'm interpreting your answer correctly. you would keep him now, but if we haven't improved in the next 4 matches, you would sack him?

[Blowee]

We are surely crazy to be considering that CC would be sacked. There are no coaches out there with a magic wand who would improve us in our current situation. Given the constraints that the club has operated under over the last few seasons the fact that we’ve been challenging in the top six is a real achievement. There are probably very few fans in the Championship who are convinced they have a better coach than ours.

[timdon]

We are surely crazy to be considering that CC would be sacked. There are no coaches out there with a magic wand who would improve us in our current situation. Given the constraints that the club has operated under over the last few seasons the fact that we’ve been challenging in the top six is a real achievement. There are probably very few fans in the Championship who are convinced they have a better coach than ours.

Absolutely spot on. I agree completely. Can't get my head around people even thinking about changing the manager.

[WBArgo]

Heggam playing in Townsend's position and is much better.
Yokuslu past his best could only play 60 minutes
BTA replaced by Cole
Phillips played one game for Oxford
I did say Cedric was the only significant leaver.

Heggem is a clear upgrade on Townsend, but you're clutching at straws on the others.

Yokusulu's 60 minutes would often win us games, with our form noticeably dipping when he was subbed off. I would rather have 60 minutes of Yokusulu than 90 minutes of our CM's who have replaced him.

BTA was our top scorer and even the season before was useful off the bench. Cole has played around 15 minutes of football this season.

Phillips played a considerable amount of game time for us last year and made a definite impact early on.

Kipre was our best player and was borderline irreplaceable.

In hindsight, I think it was the right decision to move on these players for financial reasons. However, their absence has definitely been felt and bringing in loads of players at once rarely works out.

[zippyandbungle]

If I'm interpreting your answer correctly. you would keep him now, but if we haven't improved in the next 4 matches, you would sack him?

Well let’s make it easy then…are you saying just keep him regardless of results ?

[timdon]

Well let’s make it easy then…are you saying just keep him regardless of results ?

I would keep him regardless of results this season, yes, unless we find ourselves in the bottom 6. In any other scenario, I would want to keep him going into next season, when I would expect a serious push for promotion.
That's a pretty clear answer I think> do you want to answer my original question now? 
PS There is no way we will find ourselves in the bottom six. I'd be astonished if that happened, unless we were docked points for something, in which case I'd make an exception

[iwastherein68]

I would keep him regardless of results this season, yes, unless we find ourselves in the bottom 6. In any other scenario, I would want to keep him going into next season, when I would expect a serious push for promotion.
That's a pretty clear answer I think> do you want to answer my original question now? 
PS There is no way we will find ourselves in the bottom six. I'd be astonished if that happened, unless we were docked points for something, in which case I'd make an exception

I think the owners would be less supportive.

[Albionic]

Well, I just read CC interview on the bham mail website and frankly I don't know what he was trying to say.
He likes the whole squad, he doesn't need to load the bench with defenders,
I am very confused by this

[timdon]

I think the owners would be less supportive.

Haha, maybe not, but it won't happen, so purely hypothetical.