[TheJacko2000]

I see these infections are rocketing up to 100000 per day after Freedom Day... or not. 

Absolutely no need to introduce vax passports.

[skyclad99]

The Telegraph are reporting today that double jabs will be required to watch Premier league matches from October this year; ministers are expected to sign this off shortly. This will be for all sporting events where there are more than 20,000 spectators. It is behind a paywall so I can only provide the headline;

 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/24/double-jabs-set-needed-watch-premier-league-matches/

So I am guessing that it will apply to us too.

[tuamigos]

The Telegraph are reporting today that double jabs will be required to watch Premier league matches from October this year; ministers are expected to sign this off shortly. This will be for all sporting events where there are more than 20,000 spectators. It is behind a paywall so I can only provide the headline;

 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/24/double-jabs-set-needed-watch-premier-league-matches/

So I am guessing that it will apply to us too.

Yes reading in another article they say it will work down the pyramid

[baggiemart]

Interesting to see how that works.

Discriminating against people both young and old who by their own decision decide to not have the vaccine. They are being discrimanated against just because they have decided to make their own choice and not follow with what the governement want them to do.  Nothing wrong with that in my opinion.

This is just another blackmail attempt against the young people but I'm afraid its not going to work. People will just give up on football.

A lot of people have now been used to not going to football matches so will just make the decision to not bother again. I'm one of them. Football now is so boring that it would never bother me again if I never walked into a football match again!!!

Stewards will have to check vaccine passports as you enter the ground making queues longer to get in. If the passport is on a mobile phone, a lot of older people don't use mobile phones especially smart phones, so how do they get in ?


 

[albion59]

Interesting to see how that works.

Discriminating against people both young and old who by their own decision decide to not have the vaccine. They are being discrimanated against just because they have decided to make their own choice and not follow with what the governement want them to do.  Nothing wrong with that in my opinion.

This is just another blackmail attempt against the young people but I'm afraid its not going to work. People will just give up on football.

A lot of people have now been used to not going to football matches so will just make the decision to not bother again. I'm one of them. Football now is so boring that it would never bother me again if I never walked into a football match again!!!

Stewards will have to check vaccine passports as you enter the ground making queues longer to get in. If the passport is on a mobile phone, a lot of older people don't use mobile phones especially smart phones, so how do they get in ?

  Well me and all my old mates all have smart phones we can all use them aswell. All you need is your card to say you have had both jabs with the dates on simple really.

[baggiemart]

  Well me and all my old mates all have smart phones we can all use them aswell. All you need is your card to say you have had both jabs with the dates on simple really.

Simple ?  Keep that thought.  Lets see how it works in practice !!

[hardtobeat]

Difficulty with putting a definite figure on attendances is you won’t know until after everybody has entered as to how many are there. Yes a guesstimate from ticket sales can give some sort of guide but season ticket holders not attending may make a big enough difference . I can foresee scenarios this season whereby our attendances are between 18k and 22k for example so a few hundred here and there could put us just under or just over the 20k mark just how are you going to know ?

[tommcneill]

Interesting to see how that works.

Discriminating against people both young and old who by their own decision decide to not have the vaccine. They are being discrimanated against just because they have decided to make their own choice and not follow with what the governement want them to do.  Nothing wrong with that in my opinion.

This is just another blackmail attempt against the young people but I'm afraid its not going to work. People will just give up on football.

A lot of people have now been used to not going to football matches so will just make the decision to not bother again. I'm one of them. Football now is so boring that it would never bother me again if I never walked into a football match again!!!

Stewards will have to check vaccine passports as you enter the ground making queues longer to get in. If the passport is on a mobile phone, a lot of older people don't use mobile phones especially smart phones, so how do they get in ?

I hate this discrimination stuff being put out.

It’s not discrimination.

I don’t agree with vaccine passports but it’s not discrimination.

[TheJacko2000]

I hate this discrimination stuff being put out.

It’s not discrimination.

I don’t agree with vaccine passports but it’s not discrimination.

Of course it is? In fact it's worse. It's medico-apartheid.

[hardtobeat]

Of course it is? In fact it's worse. It's medico-apartheid.

People have had the chance to have the jab they chose not to , their problem hardly apartheid. Think back to the situation in S,Africa at the height of apartheid couldn’t go on certain beaches , buses or go to certain shops or schools all because of something they had no choice over !

[baggiemart]

People have had the chance to have the jab they chose not to , their problem hardly apartheid. Think back to the situation in S,Africa at the height of apartheid couldn’t go on certain beaches , buses or go to certain shops or schools all because of something they had no choice over !

They call deciding not to have the vaccine FREEDOM of choice. Just because someone doesn't decide to do something is no excuse to exclude them from everything.

You get all these people having the vaccine then they jump into their 4 x 4's and spread fumes and cancer around the population. Cancer from car fumes causes a lot more deaths than covid.

So should we ban all the cars that belt out excessive fumes !!!   Double standards if you ask me.

[johnny Cash]

I’m vaccinated and I suppose relatively pro vaccination but I am also pro choice. It is discrimination for me.

It’s attempting to make vaccination a ‘Hobson’s choice’ for both individuals and businesses. It’s almost forcing people to have an injection which is disgusting. Whether I agree with someone’s decision or not they should 100% and always have a choice about whether the put something foreign in their body or not without it affecting ‘normal life’

They won’t do it, and it would come with its own problems but choice would be allowing businesses the choice. It’s not a choice for a business at the moment if the choice is adhere or don’t trade.

1) allow vaccinated people only if they want
2) allow unvaccinated people (then vaccinated people can decide if they wish to use that place or not).

[LiamTheBaggie]

People have had the chance to have the jab they chose not to , their problem hardly apartheid. Think back to the situation in S,Africa at the height of apartheid couldn’t go on certain beaches , buses or go to certain shops or schools all because of something they had no choice over !

What about those who are unable to receive the vaccination?

Or do we just bend the rules where it suits.

[hardtobeat]

Where people have a choice it cannot be discrimination , discrimination is being stopped from doing something because of something that is beyond your personal control.I do feel for those that cannot have the jab however I would imagine they will be asked to provide a negative test in some shape or form

[johnny Cash]

Where people have a choice it cannot be discrimination , discrimination is being stopped from doing something because of something that is beyond your personal control.I do feel for those that cannot have the jab however I would imagine they will be asked to provide a negative test in some shape or form

Nonsense, you choose your faith and you can be discriminated against based on religion.

[gazberg]

Stopping people from living a normal life because of a medical decision they made about their own body is discrimination.

[TheJacko2000]

Where people have a choice it cannot be discrimination , discrimination is being stopped from doing something because of something that is beyond your personal control.I do feel for those that cannot have the jab however I would imagine they will be asked to provide a negative test in some shape or form

Genuinely concerned people think like this. You honestly think as a perfectly healthy 41 year old male, work out 5 times a week, don't smoke, rarely drink, that I shouldn't be allowed to attend the Hawthorns any more, a place I've been hundreds of times?

[The Black Pearl]

Having the vaccine protects others, it's a selfless act to end a pandemic, I am unlikely to infect others, that should  be recognised.

[tommcneill]

As it will be consultation with the league and the clubs I assume the clubs will agree to it thus exercising their rights to refuse entry without a vaccine.

People will exercise their rights not to have a vaccine and businesses will exercise their rights to refuse entry without a vaccine or without a negative test.

I don’t agree with the vaccine passports, but I do agree with everyone being able to exercise their rights.

[TheJacko2000]

As it will be consultation with the league and the clubs I assume the clubs will agree to it thus exercising their rights to refuse entry without a vaccine.

People will exercise their rights not to have a vaccine and businesses will exercise their rights to refuse entry without a vaccine or without a negative test.

I don’t agree with the vaccine passports, but I do agree with everyone being able to exercise their rights.

So you agree I shouldn't be allowed inside the Hawthorns? Good to know.

[johnny Cash]

As it will be consultation with the league and the clubs I assume the clubs will agree to it thus exercising their rights to refuse entry without a vaccine.

People will exercise their rights not to have a vaccine and businesses will exercise their rights to refuse entry without a vaccine or without a negative test.

I don’t agree with the vaccine passports, but I do agree with everyone being able to exercise their rights.

Businesses are not being given a choice as far as I can tell. It is comply or don’t trade. That is not the same as a business having a choice. It’s not businesses exercising a right.

[LiamTheBaggie]

Providing you as an individual have had your vaccine - then what difference does it make to you if Joe Bloggs down the road has not had his?

[TheJacko2000]

Providing you as an individual have had your vaccine - then what difference does it make to you if Joe Bloggs down the road has not had his?

It doesn't make any difference, in fact proof of a negative test makes the vaccinated population far safer...

[SmethDan]

Proof of a negative test means you were negative at the time of testing. Nothing more.

Proof of double vaccination proves you've been jabbed twice, can still pass the virus on but are less likely to be hospitalised.

For what little it's worth I'm double jabbed and against vaccine passports for more reasons than I care to debate.

[TheJacko2000]

Proof of a negative test means you were negative at the time of testing. Nothing more.

Proof of double vaccination proves you've been jabbed twice, can still pass the virus on but are less likely to be hospitalised.

For what little it's worth I'm double jabbed and against vaccine passports for more reasons than I care to debate.

So again, why is a double jabbed person bothered who sits next to them?

Couple of people didn't like my apartheid comment... fair enough how about leper colonies? But for an illness that won't kill you if you're double jabbed, won't lead to any serious long term issues other viruses don't cause and won't kill you 99.8% of the time irrespective. Should I book the penthouse in the colony?

This isn't directed at you Dan, but you provided an apt quote mate.