Author Topic: Hal Robson-Kanu (Read 294535 times)

vrabbit · « **Reply #475 on:** August 23, 2017, 07:55:05 PM »

Quote from: TheBrom on August 23, 2017, 08:51:22 AM

Didn't mention Rondon earlier. Was pointing out that a poor defence and poor build up play shouldn't take anything away from a striker

you alluded to Rondon when you commented on Accrington's defending last night, which nobody had brought up.

vrabbit · « **Reply #476 on:** August 23, 2017, 07:56:22 PM »

HRK is undoubtedly in better form at the moment than Rondon. THAT isn't up for discussion really. I'm still rating Jay ahead them both at the moment.

PsalmXXIII · « **Reply #477 on:** August 23, 2017, 08:28:39 PM »

Quote from: TheJacko2000 on August 23, 2017, 06:47:49 PM

Here's a stat...

HRK 301 career appearances 42 goals.

Rondon 367 career appearances 128 goals.

Rondon has scored more goals in the last 3 and a half seasons than Kanu has scored in his entire career.

PURE OBJECTIVE STATS

Jesus Christ.

Yes Rondon has scored more goals over his career. Congrats! You can read Wikipedia. Think Stoke fans claim Berahino is their best striker because she scored 20 goals in one season for us?

Which part of 'OUR' doesn't compute? Over his total career, he's a better striker than Hal yes. He's just not a better striker FOR US. He could have scored 500 goals for other teams but none of that matters. Goals per minutes played he's vastly inferior to Hal. Hal scores more regularly for us, irrefutably. Do I think Hal is the better player, no. But he's better at scoring goals, more regularly, for us, than Rondon. What don't you get?

Anelka scored 155 goals for other teams. Shall we get him back. I mean he scored two for ya but he's obviously a fantastic striker. Markus Rosenberg has 38 goals in 94 games for Malmo, but 0 for us. But obviously if you ignore how they played in our kit, he's great.

A players pedigree means nothing if he doesn't regularly put the ball in the net for US.

The Black Pearl · « **Reply #478 on:** August 23, 2017, 08:51:52 PM »

Rondon is an excellent forward, yes his strike rate for us could be better, but he is often totally isolated, no team takes Rondon lightly, he is always a handful

Dexy · « **Reply #479 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:21:44 PM »

I don't mind Hal as a squad player , he's worked hard for his chance here and adds something to the current squad.
Not saying he should be a regular starter but I'm happy enough to have him around. Bargain really.

wba_1996 · « **Reply #480 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:07:58 PM »

Quote from: PsalmXXIII on August 23, 2017, 10:55:51 AM

What are people not getting here - those of us saying HRK is our best striker base it on goals to minutes played. I've stated this before, Rondon is a good player, I like him, I want him to do well. But Hals goalscoring record is a goal every 180 mins or so, and Rondon's is every 320 mins or so. This argument started with me pointing out when another poster in the transfer forum stated 'disappointing panic buys like HRK' and I stated, using facts, he's our best striker.

REGARDLESS OF OPINION those are the statistics. You might enjoy watching one more the other, you may think one does something better than the other, but based on PURE STATISTICS, HRK scores goals more often than Rondon, making him OBJECTIVELY our 'best striker'. Not 'the striker that scored more goals in his total career', not 'the striker with more goals for the club', not 'the most entertaining / hard working / most attractive striker'.

AT PRESENT, HRK scores goals more regularly than Rondon. Tell me any other measure by which we can deem who is our 'best striker' that is objective? He's our most effective striker.

Make all the petty digs you like, call us crazy, say we don't know what we're talking about. Statistically HRK is better than Rondon. Who would I put in the team each week? Rondon. Who do I like as a player more? Rondon. Who do I wish had better support and could score more? Rondon.

So you didn't think HRK was a disappointing panic buy when we signed him?

If Tyler Roberts comes on for the last 5 minutes against Stoke and scores would he be our best striker? In fact, a goal every 5 minutes would surely make him our best ever striker? By your logic, Iheanacho is the best striker in PL history, it's a flawed argument.

wba_1996 · « **Reply #481 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:12:47 PM »

Quote from: PsalmXXIII on August 23, 2017, 08:28:39 PM

Do I think Hal is the better player, no.

This quote is comedy gold considering the whole discussion was about who is a better player out of HRK and Rondon.

TheBrom · « **Reply #482 on:** August 24, 2017, 07:06:04 AM »

Quote from: vrabbit on August 23, 2017, 07:55:05 PM

you alluded to Rondon when you commented on Accrington's defending last night, which nobody had brought up.

Did I? Rodriguez scored as well against them. Anyway enjoy putting words in my mouth

WBAinDEVON · « **Reply #483 on:** September 05, 2017, 10:19:10 PM »

Great game for wales tonight and a great headed goal. You know my feelings, he should always start ahead of the ineffective rondon

Legend · « **Reply #484 on:** September 05, 2017, 10:31:17 PM »

Well played HRK. Good option to have coming off the bench for sure.

Albionic · « **Reply #485 on:** September 06, 2017, 06:03:35 AM »

He may be starting against Brighton if Rondon is crocked

Hull Baggie · « **Reply #486 on:** September 06, 2017, 06:40:52 AM »

Quote from: Albionic on September 06, 2017, 06:03:35 AM

He may be starting against Brighton if Rondon is crocked

I'd expect Rodriguez to start. Robson Kanu will be first choice off the bench (probably would have been anyway). In fact, if Rondon is injured, he'll be the only choice off the bench (which shows the folly of not getting another striker in during the transfer window).

zippyandbungle · « **Reply #487 on:** September 06, 2017, 07:15:03 AM »

Quote from: Hull Baggie on September 06, 2017, 06:40:52 AM

I'd expect Rodriguez to start. Robson Kanu will be first choice off the bench (probably would have been anyway). In fact, if Rondon is injured, he'll be the only choice off the bench (which shows the folly of not getting another striker in during the transfer window).

Burke can play central, I wouldn't want to mark him.

Hull Baggie · « **Reply #488 on:** September 06, 2017, 07:48:16 AM »

Quote from: zippyandbungle on September 06, 2017, 07:15:03 AM

Burke can play central, I wouldn't want to mark him.

indeed he can as can Phillips but both would be last resort options, surely it would have been better to have got an established striker in rather than a relying on wingers who can also play through the middle?

Also according to reports Pulis has told him that he needs to "be patient" and is one for the future so I think it's unlikely that we'll see Burke getting much game time this season (barring injuries).

https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2017/09/05/comment-new-decisions-for-west-brom-boss-tony-pulis-to-make/

leeiswba · « **Reply #489 on:** September 06, 2017, 08:10:05 AM »

Isn't he still banned Saturday?

Hull Baggie · « **Reply #490 on:** September 06, 2017, 08:25:32 AM »

Quote from: leeiswba on September 06, 2017, 08:10:05 AM

Isn't he still banned Saturday?

yes he is, that's a very good point!

skyclad99 · « **Reply #491 on:** September 06, 2017, 08:32:00 AM »

Quote from: leeiswba on September 06, 2017, 08:10:05 AM

Isn't he still banned Saturday?

Damn, someone remembered!

WD40 · « **Reply #492 on:** September 06, 2017, 01:57:09 PM »

Rekeem harper on the radio saying HRK told him that Blackburn rovers would be good for him as they were bigger than Albion....

WBAinDEVON · « **Reply #493 on:** September 06, 2017, 03:23:56 PM »

Quote from: WD40 on September 06, 2017, 01:57:09 PM

Rekeem harper on the radio saying HRK told him that Blackburn rovers would be good for him as they were bigger than Albion....

bigger history maybe, probably meant albion rovers

WBAinDEVON · « **Reply #494 on:** September 06, 2017, 03:25:50 PM »

He will be ready to put a nail in slavens coffin a week on saturday

albion59 · « **Reply #495 on:** September 06, 2017, 03:26:41 PM »

Quote from: WD40 on September 06, 2017, 01:57:09 PM

Rekeem harper on the radio saying HRK told him that Blackburn rovers would be good for him as they were bigger than Albion....

I just knew someone would put there own spin on this,what he actually said was that he had sat down with HRK who advised him to go on loan to Blackburn as they were a bigger club than the Albion as they had won the premier league, which Rakeem said he didn't know that and that helped him make his mind up!!