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And not available to us anyway for whatever reason so why name them….Because about a week ago people were arguing for Moyes and Potter as they are for Dyche now.
It's no good trying to point out the facts.You're having a laugh if you think Dyche is going to come to the Albion His wages would be too much and he wouldn't want to come to us anyway. As you said we are on a budget without a pot to pee in. Moyes, Potter, Cooper are sadly out of our league right now.
He has been labelled a "dinosaur" and his past achievements and experience are from the Jurassic age and don't matter a jot.
Forgot that we haven't got a pot to urinate in, we need someone to romp the league playing entertaining football on a budget.
Hey Wicky your so fine ,your so fine you blow my mindIve read he speaks perfect English and is mult lingual speaking several . Languages
We must sing it to him, but will he get it?
Does he speak English?
Will he bring his own team with him?
If so are they Mickey , tricky and , dicky ?
I listened to the podcast today and there seemed to be a lot of praise for Peace and a thoroughly professional recruitment process conducted.That's what I took from the podcast. Im feeling positive about our management and Look forward to getting behind their choice of manager.
As long as our normally reliable defence doesn't become like swiss cheese under him, we have a fighting chance.If people thought Carlos was boring God help them if we got Dyche. If Pulis and Mike Basset had a child it would be Sean Dyche. His voice is so gruff from shouting "Get Back and Slow it Down.
Tamper with that and I will be praying for over 50 points asap.
Those who turned their noses up to the likes of Dyche may soon discover the saying defences win titles.
I like the idea building a better squad in the Championship and getting promoted with it and using that as the basis for establishing us in the Premier League.I totally agree with this sad truth. With FFP the only way we can get enough money into our squad is through the Premier League TV money. The path forward is through yo yoing from the Championship into the Prem and eventually sticking there. Like some other teams have done. A current season or two like Southampton are experiencing now is the only way to progress. It's sad but true. In the Prem seasons we then have to increase the ground capacity to increase revenue potential in the leaner years.
However football doesn't work like that. It will be really difficult to retain our better players in this Division. For instance we could quite easily lose Maja and Fellows in the summer even if we got good fees replacing them in the Championship will be difficult . Using the fees well we may improve the squad overall but we are unlikely to be much stronger or at least close the gap on those with parachute payments, but equally we could end up in a worse position.
Promotion on the other hand means we have a better chance of retaining our better players and critically we can attract better players than we can in the Championship. Even if we get relegated after just one season we end up with a better squad than we would have done had we remained in the Championship.
Being the whipping boys in any division is miserable I get it but slowly drifting into mid-table Championship mediocrity isn't much fun either.
Like SmethDan said, I think BalisPen is exercising a cautious approach as opposed to shunting the idea of Wicky and that is absolutely fine and his right as a fan.My bad on Steve Cooper. Its a huge positive that Wicky has managed a team that has played in the champions league and beat Man Utd and Man City. Football is football I think he knows how to manage a team of championship standard and not having experience of the British leagues is not that big a deal. But time will tell.
Going to what you have said about better options with experience it really depends on what we wanted and the varying factors to consider. Out of job managers meant no compensation and the CC compensation being “money in the bank” which further helps us so that could limit the likes of Eustace or even those on gardening leave (I’m not sure the legal restraints on that and who needs to pay to release) so if we’re then also considering coaches that play the football they want and then would work within the structure they want it really begins to narrow down.
I would’ve said the best, modern manager that seemed free to join and had experience at this level would’ve been Schumacher but his experience isn’t exactly reassuring. It seems we approached Mowbray. Then the likes of Cooper, Martin, Moyes would potentially all be on decent gardening leave pay.
So for me it then becomes a no-brainer to look to Europe or assistants so from every time a new man was linked and I go down the rabbit-hole of researching them and committing the sin of falling in love with a coach not yet employed, for me, it came down to Fischer and Wicky when I dropped my pie in the sky thinking.
TL;DR - I’m happy with Wicky even though I’d never heard of him 4 weeks ago!
No I don't think he is to be honest. My take from both of Balis's posts is that he's expressing a genuine concern while hoping for the best.And like Balis who do you think was realistically better ?
Highly rated Austrian and Swiss managers always get a job in Germany.So your writing him off before we have even kicked a ball under him. Steve Cooper has been out of management for over a year. Graham Potter was out of work for nearly 2 years, Who from the realistic options did you want?
The fact is he's been out of work for nearly a year and none of them rated his success in Switzerland enough to merit an opportunity there.
Instead he finds himself looking for, and apparently accepting, second tier job offers from skint clubs in England.
With all those available with second tier promotion experience under their belts, it's disappointing that we have gone with someone who hasn't ever managed in England.Yeah hugely disappointing if its Wicky. The coach who has managed in the Champions league beating Peps Man city and Utd's Mourinho' . When all those managers with experience of beating oxford and Barnsley were available.
A massive risk, which I pray goes well.
I think we are attractive. English football is attractive generally, we're consistently towards top end of one of the biggest leagues in Europe in terms of attendance and spending. Any head coach could become a PL head coach with 1 good season.l think we were before Lai took over. I think in our current state we have potential but there are at least 25 teams in the English football pyramid in better shape than us. Then take at least the top 2 or 3 clubs from most leagues in Europe,they are bigger and financially better placed than us. Blues are financially better off and a more attractive prospects than us. I said before Corboran left that it would be a very difficult task to find a manager as good as him that wants to come to us. Again l think we are fishing in a very small limited ability pond of managers.
We need to bare in mind this is the new owners first appointment, they're going to really diligent with it. Especially with us having a real chance at promotion.
Basically write off between Christmas and NY, everyone spends time with families etc especially when you're not currently a manager.
There's load to factor in to the appointment. Its been about 2 weeks really. And Brunt/Abella have been fine which has given Nestor MORE time to be diligent - be thankful!
Loads to factor into the new appointment, renumeration, contracts, back room staff, tactical approach, use of youth system, scouting, structure, tactical flexibility, motivation skills.
Sounds like we are down to the final 3 then.Out of the 3 l want Wicky. Hake really doesn't inspire me at all. I will get behind whoever it is. I just hope the owners make a good choice.
Wicky
Fischer
Hake
In that order please. That being said whoever it is gets full support!
Probably the Corberan detractors comment. Thought that was clear.is detractors such a heinous slurr? I will rephrase, those midly suggesting perhaps a slightly more positive approach to our tactics. Kumbaya my Lord kumbaya
Other than the meaning of a “detractor “ is to be disparaging …and I think (and certainly my point of view) was not to be disparaging but to night light real concerns re use of the squad and stubbornness to adapt etc etc .In terms of attack-mindedness, Michael Flynn and Ryan Lowe stand out among managers who are attainable. Do they make more sense to you?
I was then Questioned if I knew what I was on about,by a poster that asked if “tge detractors” would be happier with a manager that is way beyond our current realistic ambitions.
I think I am going to give the forum a miss until this chapter is over.Your probably wise to give it a miss mate
Becoming a ****show
I don't think Postecoglou will come here mate!You know what I think your right mate.
Postecoglou will not be turning up at the Hawthorns. Totally unrealistic.Does anyone actually read the posts? I was trying to highlight the type of manager i.e. an all out attack style compared to CC's accused overly cautious approach and that many Spurs fans weren't happy with his approach. Still would like Cooper but if not would gamble on Wicky.
Nobody on here sacked Corberanwho said CC was sacked? I was talking about the spurs manager getting sacked and how he might suit those supporters who like attacking managers. Not sure what you are on about.
He decided to walk out on the club…might be worth remembering that?
