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West Bromwich Albion v Brighton & Hove Albion
FA Cup Round 4 Replay
Wednesday 6th February 2019 20.05pm
Please use this board for all your After Match Debate. Away fans are reminded to abide by the site rules.
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West Bromwich Albion v Brighton & Hove Albion
FA Cup Round 4 Replay
Wednesday 6th February 2019 20.05pm
Please use this board for all your In Game Chat. Opposition fans are reminded to abide by the site rules.
Please keep this board Albion related, there are boards elsewhere in General Sports to discuss other games
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West Bromwich Albion v Brighton & Hove Albion
FA Cup Round 4 Replay
Wednesday 6th February 2019 20.05pm
Please use this board for all your Pre Match Chat. Opposition fans are reminded to abide by the site rules.
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West Bromwich Albion v Brighton & Hove Albion
FA Cup Round 4 Replay
Wednesday 6th February 2019 20.05pm
PRICES
Allocation:
£10 Adults,
£5 Senior 65, Students + & U23, £5 U18
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;D Put the Kids in again...with maybe Mozza,Brunty and Hoolahan in there to steady the ship. Think we have a chance so 2-1 to us :D
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;D Put the Kids in again...with maybe Mozza,Brunty and Hoolahan in there to steady the ship. Think we have a chance so 2-1 to us :D
We can't play the kids and add the experience you want as all of the kids played in midfield or attack, so you'd be getting rid of 2 to bring in Brunt and Morrison.
Personally I'd swap Gayle for HRK and swap Edwards for Barry with Barry taking on the deep sitting role and Harper and Field either side of him.
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;D Put the Kids in again...with maybe Mozza,Brunty and Hoolahan in there to steady the ship. Think we have a chance so 2-1 to us :D
I'd like to win the game, so no thanks to putting Brunt in there ;)
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Stick the first team out, no reason not to. People have been moaning about ambition for years yet say stick the kids out when we have Brighton & Derby for a chance to get to the quarter finals.
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I would mix and match for this one as its a good chance to progress with a 'winnable' fixture in the next round.
Bond
Holgate
Bartley
Tosin
Gibbs
Barry
Field
Harper
Leko
Gayle/JRod
HRK
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Draw's opening up, go for it and get some excitement going Albion.
COYB 8) .
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Draw's opening up, go for it and get some excitement going Albion.
COYB 8) .
Yep...its looking like Man City v just about anyone else in the final! We should really give it a go and let any players that don't know how great the hawthorns atmosphere can really be like, when given the opportunity.
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Anyone know when the fixture date and time is to be confirmed? Still says on the website that it's subject to change due to TV. Seeing as there's only 4 replays there's a chance we could be picked for a TV slot if they're showing the games. Would be good to know before confirming my season ticket seat since I can't go on Wednesday.
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I would mix and match for this one as its a good chance to progress with a 'winnable' fixture in the next round.
Bond
Holgate
Bartley
Tosin
Gibbs
Barry
Field
Harper
Leko
Gayle/JRod
HRK
Agree with the keeper, back line and mid-field but Leko needs to go on loan to develop some footballing brains to go with his feet. HRK can hardly trap a ball let alone hold it up. So short of adequate forwards I would gamble on going 4-4-2 with Hoolahan unless Phillips makes late recovery.
Bond; Holgate, Bartley/Dawson, Toisin, Gibbs; Field, Barry, Hoolahan, Harper; Gayle, Rodrigez
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https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2019/january/brighton-replay-selected-for-live-television-coverage/
GAME IS NOW WEDNESDAY 6th FEBRUARY KICK OFF 8.05pm
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Anyone know when the fixture date and time is to be confirmed? Still says on the website that it's subject to change due to TV. Seeing as there's only 4 replays there's a chance we could be picked for a TV slot if they're showing the games. Would be good to know before confirming my season ticket seat since I can't go on Wednesday.
Its been confirmed for Wednesday
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2019/january/brighton-replay-selected-for-live-television-coverage/
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The club will automatically credit the £5 reduction (if any) to your account for future purchases; alternatively "supporters who want a cash refund, either part or in full, should visit the East Stand Ticket Office in person or call 0121 227 2227 to make these arrangements."
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£72,000 for being selected to be on TV... :-X
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blimey, bargain !!! Full house ?
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Has any season ticket holder managed to book their seat on-line? If so would they kindly tell me how.
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blimey, bargain !!! Full house ?
I’d be surprised if there’s more then 10k in the ground
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Has any season ticket holder managed to book their seat on-line? If so would they kindly tell me how.
I'd like to know how too! >:(
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Yeah, I can't book mine through season ticket online either.
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1. Login
2. Go to personal details
3. See 'red alerts' section and click on the blue line labelled 'here'
Away you go............
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I’d be surprised if there’s more then 10k in the ground
Prepare to be surprised (that’s an oxymoron isn’t it?)
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Brighton look very vulnerable to me and low on confidence. I want to see us going for this. They have only won 7 all season. Play our strongest side.
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1. Login
2. Go to personal details
3. See 'red alerts' section and click on the blue line labelled 'here'
Away you go............
Thank you Dan, don't remember doing it that way before but all sorted anyhow.
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1. Login
2. Go to personal details
3. See 'red alerts' section and click on the blue line labelled 'here'
Away you go............
Cheers Dan that's another pint I owe you
COYB
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Has any season ticket holder managed to book their seat on-line? If so would they kindly tell me how.
Yes I did mine, just the normal way had it added to my stile card using the reserved option
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Brighton look very vulnerable to me and low on confidence. I want to see us going for this. They have only won 7 all season. Play our strongest side.
I think the nature of Brighton's loss at Fulham (being 2-0 up in first 20 mins and conceding 4 in the 2nd half) will have had a detrimental effect on morale. That coupled with games against Watford and Burnley either side of the reply means that they will have to decide whether to risk playing a strong side and get through to the 5th round or rest their stronger players with their impetus being to stay in the EPL.
I'd be looking to put out a stronger attack than we did last Saturday and maybe give Livermore more game time by playing him in midfield with Field and Harper.
It also depends on any new players coming in.
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Thank you Dan. No joy late late last night but all's well this morning.
Let's hope the system is more straightforward for when we have to get our Wembley tickets.
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I think the nature of Brighton's loss at Fulham (being 2-0 up in first 20 mins and conceding 4 in the 2nd half) will have had a detrimental effect on morale. That coupled with games against Watford and Burnley either side of the reply means that they will have to decide whether to risk playing a strong side and get through to the 5th round or rest their stronger players with their impetus being to stay in the EPL.
I'd be looking to put out a stronger attack than we did last Saturday and maybe give Livermore more game time by playing him in midfield with Field and Harper.
It also depends on any new players coming in.
You were doing so well up until the bold bit, just saying !
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the winners of the replay have also been selected for tv on by sport.
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Thank you Dan. No joy late late last night but all's well this morning.
Let's hope the system is more straightforward for when we have to get our Wembley tickets.
Sign in to your season ticket page
Click on the match ticket tab
Chose reserved tickets from the drop down - they should be reserved for you.
Then just follow the buying process.
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Sorry, but DM showed he's not bothered about the Cup this season when he brought on Tulloch and not Gayle in the 81st minute against Brighton.
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None of the new guys are eligible as they weren't signed when we played the first game in Brighton.
Bond
Mears Dawson Hegazi Gibbs
Harper Livermore Field
Robson-Kanu Rodriguez Gayle
Subs: Johnstone, Adarabioyo, Holgate, Barry, Brunt, Hoolahan, Edwards.
I'd protect Holgate as he's the only real right back we have and Barry because of his age. Other than that the only change I'd make is Bond for Johnstone.
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No idea who will play. Especially midfield where arguably we should be resting Field and Harper as they are now first choice. Such a shame the new signings aren’t eligible.
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In all my excitement I bought a ticket for this game thinking that it was on Tuesday. I am flying out to Thailand on Wednesday so cannot go - imagine my disappointment when my other half pointed out my schoolboy error.
Any way I have a free ticket that I can get in the post first class for anyone who wants it. East Stand FF80
PM me
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In all my excitement I bought a ticket for this game thinking that it was on Tuesday. I am flying out to Thailand on Wednesday so cannot go - imagine my disappointment when my other half pointed out my schoolboy error.
Any way I have a free ticket that I can get in the post first class for anyone who wants it. East Stand FF80
PM me
Have a nice holiday Kev.
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Think we’ll see wholesale changes and something very similar to the first game.
Bond
Mears
Bartley
Adarabioyo
Townsend
Harper/Edwards
Livermore
Brunt
Robson-Kanu
Hoolahan
Leko
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Think we’ll see wholesale changes and something very similar to the first game.
Bond
Mears
Bartley
Adarabioyo
Townsend
Harper/Edwards
Livermore
Brunt
Robson-Kanu
Hoolahan
Leko
That's as near damn it that mooro will pick
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play the strongest team possible, when have we ever benefited from resting 1st teamers from cup duty.
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Bond
Holgate Adarabioyo Hegazi Gibbs
Harper Livermore Field
Hoolahan
Gayle Rodriguez
Subs:
Myhill, Mears, Townsend, Bartley, Leko, Edwards, HRK
I’d go fairly strong but as Dawson’s been a little disappointing for me of late I’d like to see how Adarabioyo would get on alongside Hegazi.
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Yep,I agree with that team mate,strongest team possible after pulised.
They need to get back to winning ways as a team before Stoke.
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Possibly:
Bond
Mears
Tosin
Bartley
Townsend
Leko
Livermore
Brunt
Harper
Hoolahan
Edwards
I think it's great that the kids are getting game time. Would perhaps start Gayle though, to try and do some damage early on and let Edwards or Harper come on at HT with their pace when the defence have tired a little.
Slightly different note now, and not intended to cause offence, but has an EFL team ever played a team of only PoC? Just for discussion purposes. Because we could do this (outfield players only):
Holgate/Bartley/Tosin/Gibbs
Leko/Livermore/Edwards
Harper/Gayle/Robson Kanu
I only mention this because there's a lot to do with racism in football of late and just wondering if any team has done this.
With the exception of Bartley, I actually quite like this line up.
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Interesting. I quite like the line up too. And Bartley has done okay in the cup games when played in his rightful place.
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Think Johansen and Montero will see some game time whether from start or from the bench. Also suspect Harper and Field won't start but all depends on what DM sees as he starting XI at Stoke but I'd go
Bond
Mears
Bartley
Toiusin
Townsend
Livermore
Brunt
Johansen
Lecko
Gayle
HRK
Suspect Gayle won't start though and all assuming Phillips and Morrison are still out
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The new signings cannot play as has already been stated on here. They were not at the club when the first game was played.
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Bond
Mears Adabarioyo Bartley Townsend
Harper Field Hoolihan
Leko Gayle Edwards
Subs: Myhill, Hegazi, Gibbs, Livermore, Brunt, HRK, Rodriguez.
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16,500 tickets left in the home ends, which means we’ve sold roughly around 7k. Can’t see Brighton bringing many , going to be a below 10 thousand attendance this. Not surprised especially with it being on the bbc
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Good nice little pre-match drink and eats in an empty Sportsman
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Don't get this,put the first team in and win the game and confident for Saturday
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East Stand 5,484
Brummie Road 6,699
West Stand 2,280
Smethwick 1,753
Remaining: 16,216
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How many does the Brummie hold??!
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THE NEW SIGNINGS CANT PLAY 😄
I think that Gibbs, Holgate and Harper looked a little tired on sat
Johnstone
Mears. Tosin. Bartley. Townsend
Edwards. Field. Hoolahan. Leko
HRK. Rodriguez
Bond,Barry Livermore Dawson Gayle 2 youth players
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THE NEW SIGNINGS CANT PLAY 😄
I think that Gibbs, Holgate and Harper looked a little tired on sat
Johnstone
Mears. Tosin. Bartley. Townsend
Edwards. Field. Hoolahan. Leko
HRK. Rodriguez
Bond,Barry Livermore Dawson Gayle 2 youth players
Are you sure ? :D
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Not many more than 6699!
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Bearing in mind the new signings can't play ;) , and Darren is yet to show any interest in actually progressing in the cup I expect:
Bond
Mears
Bartley
Adarabioyo
Townsend
Livermore (had a 4 match rest)
Field
Edwards
HRK
Hoolahan
Leko
Likes of Gayle Brunt and Dawson on the bench with 3 other kids for the sake of appearances but no intention of using them...
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How many does the Brummie hold??!
8,935...........
https://www.wba.co.uk/club/the-hawthorns/general-information/
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I'm up there..... I'll sing on my own !!!!!
500 max from Brighton ?
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How many does the Brummie hold??!
Close the Brummie for this one and stick every one in the Smethwick maybe? :P
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I'm up there..... I'll sing on my own !!!!!
500 max from Brighton ?
I'll be there too.
Come on Albion I know it's the Cup and it's on BBC but the sales so far are embarrassing.
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Everyone will want a ticket when we get the Dings in the 6th
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I'll be there too.
Come on Albion I know it's the Cup and it's on BBC but the sales so far are embarrassing.
Terrible mate, on BBC in front of an empty stadium. Not as if the prices are poor either, wonder how many will be moaning if we managed to get to the semi final and they didn't get tickets.
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I think it will be the same 11 that started at Brighton the other week.
Think DM will trust them to try see the job through.
Personally I would go with:
Bond
Mears
Tosin
Bartley
Townsend
Livermore
Field
Hoolahan
Leko
Rodriguez/Gayle
Edwards
I would be looking to rest Harper, think he needs a bit of down time before being burnt out. I wouldn't be starting HRK either, think if we pop Rod or Gayle up top it gives us more of a goal threat.
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Still trying to decide whether to go to this or not. Got my ticket, but am contemplating writing the £11 (£10 plus £1 admin fee which in itself is a joke) off to stay in the warm. Sad state of affairs really, but years of managers that have continually disappointed me are slowly driving me away from the Albion.
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I'll be there in my usual spot.
Unusually it seems there'll be acres of space around me.
Might make the most of it and have a curry before the game .
My bum trumpet will probably carry a better tune than the drummer anyway :P ;) .
COYB 8) .
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Wouldn't surprise me to see Morgan Rogers feature in this one.
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Still trying to decide whether to go to this or not. Got my ticket, but am contemplating writing the £11 (£10 plus £1 admin fee which in itself is a joke) off to stay in the warm. Sad state of affairs really, but years of managers that have continually disappointed me are slowly driving me away from the Albion.
You may not feel so entirely just yet but from here it seems you're growing disillusioned with the game. Felt similar a few seasons back and thought long and hard about renewing my HST. I suggest you may have a decision to make in the not too distant future.
Whatever you decide there's not much point throwing money at something if you no longer derive pleasure from it. Habits can be hard to break but it's not always for the worst. Personally having already stumped up I'd go tomorrow night but start the reflection process regarding renewal and make a decision ASAP for clarity.
All the best on whatever you decide 8) .
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You may not feel so entirely just yet but from here it seems you're growing disillusioned with the game. Felt similar a few seasons back and thought long and hard about renewing my HST. I suggest you may have a decision to make in the not too distant future.
Whatever you decide there's not much point throwing money at something if you no longer derive pleasure from it. Habits can be hard to break but it's not always for the worst. Personally having already stumped up I'd go tomorrow night but start the reflection process regarding renewal and make a decision ASAP for clarity.
All the best on whatever you decide 8) .
The summer we retained Pulis was the first time I seriously contemplated the HST as I knew, and said on here many times in the back end of the season leading up to it, exactly what was coming, but I persevered.
Came to this summer and I was full of hope that we wouldn't just go for the cheap option, we would go for the best candidate and have a fresh start but it has just been another disastrous appointment full of sentimentality and little else. I will admit to feeling disillusioned. I will see how the rest of the season pans out and decide from there, but another season in the Championship with the same manager and a worse squad does not fill me with much promise currently.
You are probably right insofar as it is not just the Albion, but football as a whole. The game that we follow now isn't football to me like it always used to be, it is just commercialism now and the money is sickening.
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I'd love to go but sadly live 100 miles away and finish work at 7, might be cutting it fine ;D
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I'll be there in my usual spot.
Unusually it seems there'll be acres of space around me.
Might make the most of it and have a curry before the game .
My bum trumpet will probably carry a better tune than the drummer anyway :P ;) .
COYB 8) .
That wouldn't be hard! To be fair to him he does seem to have learned a bit of rhythm, rather than sounding like he's knocking a shed up.
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That wouldn't be hard! To be fair to him he does seem to have learned a bit of rhythm, rather than sounding like he's knocking a shed up.
Speak to the drummer every now and then both home and away. He's a really sound fella and a good laugh, a very decent bloke who loves the Albion through and through. But in all honesty he'd struggle to carry a rhythmic tune in a ruck sack (fair play to him for his efforts though, even if he does my head in from time to time) ;D .
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Bond
Mears Bartley Adarabioyo Townsend
Livermore Field
Edwards Hoolahan Leko
HRK
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Got mine and the mrs' tickets.
Sampling the East Stand again - enjoyed it when when we played Wigan.
Looking forward to the Sportsman being empty and a relatively easy tram journey home
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Wouldn't surprise me to see Morgan Rogers feature in this one.
Would love to see him on the bench. Think the club are giving Tulloch a taste of the first team at the moment, guessing Morgan will be next.
VERY good player, one I hope we keep hold of and look to integrate into the first team in the next 2-4 years.
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Christmas tree time.....
Bond
Mears Tosin Bartley Townsend
Field Livermore Brunt
Leko Hoolahan
HRK
SUBS: Johnstone, Rodriguez, Edwards, Dawson, Gayle, + 2 others?
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Wouldn't surprise me to see Morgan Rogers feature in this one.
Would be great if he did. I'd like to get a live look at him, before someone takes him off our hands.
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VERY young side picked by the u23s tonight. No Tulloch or Morgan, Soule, Brown or Ferguson. Could be a very young squad tomorrow with Livermore to look after them.
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Excuse my ignorance lads but if it is 0-0 at FT do they play extra time?
And if so, and it is still 0-0 do they go to penalties?
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Excuse my ignorance lads but if it is 0-0 at FT do they play extra time?
And if so, and it is still 0-0 do they go to penalties?
4th round replay (us) is extra time and penalties if required.
5th round is no replay and straight to penalties at the end of normal time.
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Still trying to decide whether to go to this or not. Got my ticket, but am contemplating writing the £11 (£10 plus £1 admin fee which in itself is a joke) off to stay in the warm. Sad state of affairs really, but years of managers that have continually disappointed me are slowly driving me away from the Albion.
I completely get your drift, when you look at the way Tony Brown, Bob Taylor etc celebrated for this club, heck even Scharner probably, and now we have a bunch of pick'n'mix as our starting 11. The passion is rarely there, most of the time it looks a bit half arsed to me during games when i've seen us this season, not busting a gut for most of the game. The boro' game i feel we were more than capable of winning. And you know, the majority of them are there because they have been signed here, not playing for what the club stands for.
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The summer we retained Pulis was the first time I seriously contemplated the HST as I knew, and said on here many times in the back end of the season leading up to it, exactly what was coming, but I persevered.
Came to this summer and I was full of hope that we wouldn't just go for the cheap option, we would go for the best candidate and have a fresh start but it has just been another disastrous appointment full of sentimentality and little else. I will admit to feeling disillusioned. I will see how the rest of the season pans out and decide from there, but another season in the Championship with the same manager and a worse squad does not fill me with much promise currently.
You are probably right insofar as it is not just the Albion, but football as a whole. The game that we follow now isn't football to me like it always used to be, it is just commercialism now and the money is sickening.
If that's really how you feel then it's no wonder you're disillusioned. If you had of told me in the Summer, after years of rubbish Pulis/Pardew football, the club in disarray, and having lost our best keeper (Foster), our best centre half (Evans), our best striker (Rondon), and (ability wise) our best midfielders (GK/Chadli), that at the start of Feb we'd be 4th in the league and one of the top scorers in the country I would have snapped your hand off and be delighted about it. I would therefore like to ask what would be considered a good appointment, or even an average one, if this one is disastrous?
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Looking at the under23 line up last night, I would imagine we will be seeing a lot of the youngsters again tonight.
Leko, Tulloch, Edwards, Rodgers, Ferguson amongst some the names that didn't feature yesterday.
Fair to say Leko and Edwards will more than likely be in the starting 11, but could one of the others also get some game time?
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Agree Robbo_wba , personally I think Darren Moore is doing a great job. I understand that some fans don't agree, obviously footballs all about opinions but its hard to understand how he could be described as disastrous
I'm looking forward to the match tonight.
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If that's really how you feel then it's no wonder you're disillusioned. If you had of told me in the Summer, after years of rubbish Pulis/Pardew football, the club in disarray, and having lost our best keeper (Foster), our best centre half (Evans), our best striker (Rondon), and (ability wise) our best midfielders (GK/Chadli), that at the start of Feb we'd be 4th in the league and one of the top scorers in the country I would have snapped your hand off and be delighted about it. I would therefore like to ask what would be considered a good appointment, or even an average one, if this one is disastrous?
He wanted Dean Smith, who without Brentford's set up or a £40 million midfielder has shown himself to be bang average.
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If that's really how you feel then it's no wonder you're disillusioned. If you had of told me in the Summer, after years of rubbish Pulis/Pardew football, the club in disarray, and having lost our best keeper (Foster), our best centre half (Evans), our best striker (Rondon), and (ability wise) our best midfielders (GK/Chadli), that at the start of Feb we'd be 4th in the league and one of the top scorers in the country I would have snapped your hand off and be delighted about it. I would therefore like to ask what would be considered a good appointment, or even an average one, if this one is disastrous?
Absolutely right Robbo. From where we were 12 months ago I will take this all day long. I enjoy watching my team again and that is something I never did under Pulis. I have different views to some about Pardew but that's for another day! We have a chance of promotion at the first time of asking and that will do for me!
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Watching this one in Benidorm with a bit of sun on my back but actually looking forward to watchint us play, its a lot different from 12 months ago under Pulis/Pardew when i wouldnt have been bothered knowing we were going to be beat comfortably with no fight or substance.
At present DM has done as good a job as anyone could ask particularly with the current ownership being reluctant to spend money he has brought pride back to the club something we had lacked under the capped one and pardew.
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https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/news/2019/february/free-drink-at-the-hawthorns-tonight/ (https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/news/2019/february/free-drink-at-the-hawthorns-tonight/)
Free Drink for the away fans.
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https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/news/2019/february/free-drink-at-the-hawthorns-tonight/ (https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/news/2019/february/free-drink-at-the-hawthorns-tonight/)
Free Drink for the away fans.
That's three bottles of Carling then!
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Really finding it difficult to get going for this one after saturdays turd in the face, but I just caught myself thinking, hmmmmm, win the cup or promotion, which would I rather have? Head says promotion, heart says cup.
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Dare we even ask how many tickets have even been sold for this? ;D
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Dare we even ask how many tickets have even been sold for this? ;D
This is what's left currently:
Smethwick - 1270
East Stand - 5692
Brummie - 5589
Halfords - 1895
Sold about 500 for the Smethwick since dinner time which is when I last checked.
Roughly 9300 sold in home ends I think.
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This is what's left currently:
Smethwick - 1270
East Stand - 5692
Brummie - 5589
Halfords - 1895
Sold about 500 for the Smethwick since dinner time which is when I last checked.
Roughly 9300 sold in home ends I think.
Ouch. :o Surely the smallest crowd we've ever had for a 4th round tie at the Hawthorns.
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Bearing in mind the new signings can't play ;) , and Darren is yet to show any interest in actually progressing in the cup I expect:
Bond
Mears
Bartley
Adarabioyo
Townsend
Livermore (had a 4 match rest)
Field
Edwards
HRK
Hoolahan
Leko
Likes of Gayle Brunt and Dawson on the bench with 3 other kids for the sake of appearances but no intention of using them...
Ooft, so close, Harper and Rodriguez for Edwards and Leko.
Strong bench too.
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The summer we retained Pulis was the first time I seriously contemplated the HST as I knew, and said on here many times in the back end of the season leading up to it, exactly what was coming, but I persevered.
Came to this summer and I was full of hope that we wouldn't just go for the cheap option, we would go for the best candidate and have a fresh start but it has just been another disastrous appointment full of sentimentality and little else. I will admit to feeling disillusioned. I will see how the rest of the season pans out and decide from there, but another season in the Championship with the same manager and a worse squad does not fill me with much promise currently.
You are probably right insofar as it is not just the Albion, but football as a whole. The game that we follow now isn't football to me like it always used to be, it is just commercialism now and the money is sickening.
Wow.... If your starting point was disillusioned that explains a lot. Regardless of how Darren Moore does at the Albion you sound jaded with the game at this level which I understand.A friend of mine felt the same and hit the limit under the capped wonder. He started watching local non league and loves it. I took my little girl to watch West Brom ladies play Wolves and their win bonus at the end of the game was a box of choccies.....playing in front of 200 people in the freezing cold just for the love of it! I recommend it to get back in touch.
I also lost interest under TP and the staying up at all costs mentality, whilst paying mercenarys/average players three times as much in a week than I earn in a year. But I've found having Darren Moore as head coach has helped. He gets the club and is as near one of us as we could ever get. I'd rather be in this division with hungry players playing attacking football than ever go back to Pullis ball in the greed league.
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Bond, Mears, Townsend, Bartley, Adarabiyio, Livermore, Field, Harper, Hoolahan, Rodriguez, Robson-Kanu
Subs: Myhill, Dawson, Hegazi, Gibbs, Tulloch, Rogers, Gayle
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Leko must be injures which is a shame. Be great to see Tulloch and Rogers get on.
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Bond, Mears, Townsend, Bartley, Adarabiyio, Livermore, Field, Harper, Hoolahan, Rodriguez, Robson-Kanu
Subs: Myhill, Dawson, Hegazi, Gibbs, Tulloch, Rogers, Gayle
Don't see goals in that side,unless we get a pen, nor a clean sheet, so think our FA cup journey will be over for another year.
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Robson-Kanu again selected :(
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Robson-Kanu again selected :(
Perhaps he’ll be tired for Saturday with all the games he’s playing.
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Just like last saturday, No running ability with the ball and serious lack of pace in that lineup.
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COYB!!!
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West Bromwich Albion v Brighton & Hove Albion
FA Cup Round 4 Replay
Wednesday 6th February 2019 20.05pm
Please use this board for all your In Game Chat. Opposition fans are reminded to abide by the site rules.
Let’s give them a good game
That
Back four frightens the life out of me
Mistake for their first goal
Please keep this board Albion related, there are boards elsewhere in General Sports to discuss other games
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This back four scares the life out of me !!
Errors for their goal !
COYB. Great to see kids playing and loyalty from DM
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Bond is our No.1.
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Bondy shouting for the ball there! Commanding his area!
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The youngsters, Field, Harper and Bond are so far doing exceptionally well
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Chaps I am stuck in Poland any chance of an update please
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The youngsters, Field, Harper and Bond are so far doing exceptionally well
Absolutely.
Also shocked at the respectful way the BEEB are talking about us. What's going on!!!
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Absolutely.
Also shocked at the respectful way the BEEB are talking about us. What's going on!!!
All Warnock's are complete cocks apparently!!
Leko and Edwards both injured?
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Brighton are looking increasingly dangerous, particularly from corners, but it’s anyone’s game so far
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Red card with VAR.
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Field injured by a deliberately raised elbow.. Are the officials blind?
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should be off. disgusting elbow
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The youngsters, Field, Harper and Bond are so far doing exceptionally well
Keep hearing this. Bond is the same age as Johnstone. Not a youngster.
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Ref is having a nice laugh about it though >:(
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How is it that they are using VAR in some cup games rather than others? The guys walking if VAR was in use tonight.
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Andone needs undoing.
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How is it that they are using VAR in some cup games rather than others? The guys walking if VAR was in use tonight.
Isn't it Prem grounds only? Joke.
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Something like that makes you wonder if a ref should be able to review and send off at half time
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How is that not a Red card ???
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Something like that makes you wonder if a ref should be able to review and send off at half time
Shouldn't be needed, ref was looking right at it!
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Shouldn't be needed, ref was looking right at it!
Yep, appalling.
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Bond saves well, then Brighten hit the bar and shoot dangerously inches over.
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Bad decision that. Deliberately elbowing Field should be red.
Lol at the Wolves fans going on about the attendance. Why are other teams so wrapped up in whose attendance is higher...
Brighton fans singing "you know what you are" to Jrod. A goalscorer? A male? A footballer? What on earth could they be whining about...
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Shouldn't be needed, ref was looking right at it!
Agreed, but clearly didn’t see it didn’t want to. Footage the red has no choice
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Andone nailed on to score in this.
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Robson Kanu simply can’t use his right foot
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Kanu loses it again, another break from Brighton. Get him off.
Referee has been very poor.
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From all reports Bond is doing well tonight.
Should he replace Johnstone?
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What the fek is the ref doing? Harper was held back as he burst down the middle but ref waves play on.
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Bad decision that. Deliberately elbowing Field should be red.
Lol at the Wolves fans going on about the attendance. Why are other teams so wrapped up in whose attendance is higher...
Brighton fans singing "you know what you are" to Jrod. A goalscorer? A male? A footballer? What on earth could they be whining about...
"Exotically named but from Burnley". I think that's what they mean.
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What the fek is the ref doing? Harper was held back as he burst down the middle but ref waves play on.
Definite bias to the Prem side. It sucks.
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Kanu loses it again, another break from Brighton. Get him off.
Referee has been very poor.
A month or so back you were saying HRK was undroppable :o
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HRK hits the cross bar with a neat volley from the edge of the box
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A month or so back you were saying HRK was undroppable :o
A month or so ago he was. Great effort from him there too.
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who is this laughing boy ref??
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Brilliant strike by Robson Kanu skims the top of the bar. So unlucky
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Brilliant strike by Robson Kanu skims the top of the bar. So unlucky
Occasional flashes of top quality surrounded by a sea of mediocrity from our Hal.
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Brilliant strike by Robson Kanu skims the top of the bar. So unlucky
Chance of the match and looking very good tonight. interesting the half-time commentators are praising Darran Moor's tactics.
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Chaps I am stuck in Poland any chance of an update please
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/46802193
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Decent enough first half. Kanu, both full backs and Field the weakest 4 players, Harper probably our MVP so far.
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Chance of the match and looking very good tonight.
In my opinion other than one very good strike he has been very poor.
He’s effectively playing wide right and yet he simply cannot beat a defender on the outside.
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Not too bad first half and pretty even with no difference in class.
Brighton should have been down to ten men but only the ref (right in front of the assault) knows why ?
COYB
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Andone should have been sent off...Unfortunately he may possibly score the winner. (Happens too many times).
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Brighton creating most of the danger. On balance they should be ahead. We get as far as penalty box and try and play 1-2's through their defence. We could do with Gayle on.
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In my opinion other than one very good strike he has been very poor.
He’s effectively playing wide right and yet he simply cannot beat a defender on the outside.
Commentators are pointing out both strikers playing wide and cutting inside playing direct while pushing back the full backs, no need to beat the FB as there is rarely anyone in the box.
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Andone should have been sent off...Unfortunately he may possibly score the winner. (Happens too many times).
Yep, him and Knockaert look the danger men.
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Biased ref again, laughing boy looking straight at that elbow, disgrace.
Decent game, lacking any quality, don't think we'll keep clean sheet as they have grown into it and look dangerous on the break. Might need Gayle to save the day.
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Doing okay I feel. Livermore and Harper look good in midfield and the much maligned Bartley looks ok too. But Brighton have had chances so this could go either way.
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Andone should have been sent off...Unfortunately he may possibly score the winner. (Happens too many times).
I hope his leg unexpectedly falls off. and the ref ignores it happening.
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This back 3 is back. Ffs. :(
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On the plus side it will suit Field a lot better.
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Dawson for Rodriquez so going to three ??? Problem is mears is 35!
That’s a mistake
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3 at the back...super.
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Dawson on for J-Rod????
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/46802193
Many thanks, got iplayer and the bbc website but “content not available in your region “ f I kin frustrated
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A dangerous foul on Mears and the ref just talks to the idiot. Ref is clueless.
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Townsend and Mears cannot play as wing backs...
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Kevin Kilbane on the BBC reckons this:
West Brom have realised they were a bit exposed to counter-attacking football in the first half. Bringing on Craig Dawson for Jay Rodriguez will give them a bit more defensive stability as they switch to a back three.
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I’d have just put Morgan on and gambled. Why not.
Wing backs of Mears and Townsend with Robison Kanu as a loan forward is tragic
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Kevin Kilbane on the BBC reckons this:
West Brom have realised they were a bit exposed to counter-attacking football in the first half. Bringing on Craig Dawson for Jay Rodriguez will give them a bit more defensive stability as they switch to a back three.
He’s not seen us play with a back 3
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We are standing off them too much.
Get in front and stop them passing.
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Both fullbacks really struggling now.
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They have a 38 year old right back. We should be getting at him as a priority, not giving them a buy by playing an inadequate left wing back
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As good a player as Rekeem looks, he's an awful finisher.
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Kevin Kilbane on the BBC reckons this:
West Brom have realised they were a bit exposed to counter-attacking football in the first half. Bringing on Craig Dawson for Jay Rodriguez will give them a bit more defensive stability as they switch to a back three.
More like Darren Moore wants JRod and Gayle kept fresh.
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The 3 at the back was terrible before, but with Mears and Townsend at full back there's just no sense at all.
HRK is also on a run 13 games with scoring or assisting.
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I’d have just put Morgan on and gambled. Why not.
Wing backs of Mears and Townsend with Robison Kanu as a loan forward is tragic
I wish he was just a loan forward ;D sadly we own him
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The longer this goes on the more likely brighton are to nick a goal. We have no penetration and offer no threat going forward.
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Goal’s coming here
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I wish he was just a loan forward ;D sadly we own him
Very good ;D my mistake!
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The only way we're winning this is on pens.
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Repeat... We are backing off too much.
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We’ve had some decent passages of play and prolonged periods of possession but our lack of pace is very noticeable.
Brighton look more likely to score though.
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Game's picked up.....chances.
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Stupid Dawson.
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We need some pace injected
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We are playing against 11 men and the ref.
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Bit of pace out wide and we'll win this
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Think HRK has had a very good game tonight
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Putting on subs too early...Normally too late.
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Refreshing substitution but shows we're not bothered about going through...
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If it stays 0-0 and we don’t bring Gayle on, is there any point in him being on the bench?
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Refreshing substitution but shows we're not bothered about going through...
Exactly that.
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Should have been a penalty to Brighton.
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That's two big calls this ref has bottled, stonewall pen.
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Why do we try to heave the ball upwards?
Keep it LOW !!!
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Lots of positives for us but where is the goal threat?
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Lots of positives for us but where is the goal threat?
On the bench.
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Lots of positives for us but where is the goal threat?
The halftime change completely removed any goal threat. Really disappointed by the lack of ambition to try and win the game.
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Where is Leko tonight??
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Where’s the width!? I don’t really understand what the pattern of play is at the moment, other than give it to Hoolahan and hope for some magic.
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Too many sideways passes...Lets them easily cut out and start an attack.
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Where is Leko tonight??
Injured and Edwards.
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Where is Leko tonight??
Presumably injured, though their is a big u23s match at the end of the week.
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Might be unfair but Daws skinned there?
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No defensive organisation.
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May as well walk them one in, we clearly don't want to go through. Disappointing.
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Bartley has been woeful 2nd half. Don't want to see the back 3 again.
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We’re looking tired, no pace and little creativity. Cannot see a goal 🥅 . Prove me wrong lads.
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Where’s Brunt when you need him
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How did that happen?
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Bartley has been woeful 2nd half. Don't want to see the back 3 again.
It worked! Boing Boing Bartley!
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Goal Bartley
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Get in Albion
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Get in! Well done Bartley!
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GET IN
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Where did Bartley appear from? Who cares! What a bizarre goal :P
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Weird goal
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Big Kyle!!
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What a bizarre goal lol. Brighton player obviously thought the ball was going out.
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Tulloch......
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A goals a goal but what was the Brighton player doing ;D
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Pleased for the guy... and for the team of course
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Bartley :o
1-1
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Tulloch looks a top prospect, should have buried that header mind. Here comes Rogers.
Dogsh1t Bartley.
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Bartley is absolutely useless dawson not much better then
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For gods sake
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1-1. Geez
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Rogers on for Hoolahan
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Dawson not covering himself in glory.
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The sooner he leaves our club the better
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Honestly, Bartley...
We paid money for that bloke
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And it was bloody Andone who should have been sent off.
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Typical. Shouldn't be on the pitch though...
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Dawson asleep
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Stupid "non defending"
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Shouldn't even be on the pitch. Was always going to happen.
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Dawson not covering himself in glory.
Was going to say you can't anticipate such a bad first touch, but they must see it all the time. No blame attached to Daws for me.
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Goal was Bartley’s fault . rubbish control and then blames Dawson.
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And it was bloody Andone who should have been sent off.
You bloody knew it would be him >:(
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I've never seen a centreback get nutmegged as many times as Kyle Bartley, 3 times tonight.
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Andone was 3/1 to score after he should have been sent off, why did I not stick a tenner on it.
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Another Kanu miss.
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Should have played Rogers through early.
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Shouldn't even be on the pitch. Was always going to happen.
Scroll back...I said it before you...Nah nah lol
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Bartlett..... Oh dear. Want him to succeed but nope. Not a first team defender.
Individual mistakes every game now costing us. One of the last products of our previousrecruitment team I hope.
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Can’t blame Dawson for yet another Bartley blunder. You could see how bad he was in the first game of the season. What the scouting network/management saw in him I’ll never know
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Back 3 consisting of Bartley and Dawson. No surprises.
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This back three system leaves us all over the place. We’ve been there for the absolute taking. We’ve made a complete mockery of this competition. I’ll say it again, why is Gayle on the bench!?!
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Scroll back...I said it before you...Nah nah lol
And I said it before you! :)
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Can’t blame Dawson for yet another Bartley blunder. You could see how bad he was in the first game of the season. What the scouting network/management saw in him I’ll never know
You'd be amazed at what coming through a top academy will do for giving you an undeserved reputation.
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Great to see some kids on and they look good - Harper and Tulloch look great , Field is back. Bond looks more assured than Johnstone. Bartley has to be one of the worst defenders we've had for a while - makes Ryan Donk look reliable!
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You'd be amazed at what coming through a top academy will do for giving you an undeserved reputation.
An example of why there is now a totally new recruitment team. Would have been a poor free.
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You'd be amazed at what coming through a top academy will do for giving you an undeserved reputation.
Bartley and Townsend poor signings - academy kids impressing tonight
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This back three system leaves us all over the place. We’ve been there for the absolute taking. We’ve made a complete mockery of this competition. I’ll say it again, why is Gayle on the bench!?!
Mate, we've been on top for the entire second half and barring a Kyle Bartley eff up we'd have wrapped this up. They looked rubbish but another case of mistakes costing us again.
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That could have been yet another goal...We are stupid and keep backing off !
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Extra time
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We are slow at looking and thinking.
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Townsend looks poor, no pace and unable to sort his feet out when in possession.
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COYB!
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Looks like Jones managing the team to me...
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Extra time
no extra time.it's pen's i think
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Looks like Jones managing the team to me...
Yeo, Big Dave not saying anything
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Looks like Jones managing the team to me...
Noticed that - looked odd.
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Would love Tulloch or Morgan to bag the winner. Didn't think I'd ever say this but HRK MotM. Looks knackered now though. Brighton to win it now I think.
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Dont forget - as of last season a 4th sub in permitted in extra time.
http://www.thefa.com/news/2017/nov/13/emirates-fa-cup-fourth-substitute-extra-time-first-round-onwards-131117
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The fabled 4th sub. Dawson off Hegazi on.
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Looks like a 3-1 game to me...Just hope it is to the Baggies.
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Dawson off..... Injured? Or just precaution
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Still no Gayle. I don’t see why we’ve bothered playing this game, no intent to win it
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Still no Gayle. I don’t see why we’ve bothered playing this game, no intent to win it
Not the most robust. In cotton wool.
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Dawson off..... Injured? Or just precaution
Hopefully just a precision. He did not look like he was struggling but did clash with one of theirs who was subbed off, dead leg?
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I’d just like to say how much I’m enjoying the game. It great to watch good football and bring the kids in. I feel a bit sorry for Townsend who looks to be struggling but Darren Moore is head and shoulders above TP in my opinion
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Typifies Kanu drags on to his left when the option was right
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We are sadly going to have to forfeit most of extra time, as half our team have to be up in time for school tomorrow. ;D
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Still no Gayle. I don’t see why we’ve bothered playing this game, no intent to win it
I thought this but if we weren't bothered, then why take it to a replay?
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Rogers really struggling. Hopefully has a few decent touches will do wonders for his confidence.
Kanu is dreadful. Invariably does the wrong thing.
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Great to see just how far Field and Harper have come, they look so calm and assured. You wouldn't think it was Harpers fifth(?) Game for us.
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I’d imagine Dawson is injured. Rarely do subs get subbed otherwise
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Christ I hope this is a 4 month thigh tear.
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Kanu down...Too old !!!He is ready to become a pensioner
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Jones' barmy army
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Well for those saying with Kanu on it's like playing with ten men, you're about to see how that actually looks...
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That’s ya flipped. As bad as Kanu is a body short at this level is usual Lethal
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Not good our best player on the pitch tonight goes off with a thigh injury. Sad to see some of our own celebrating an injury to our own players on here. Shame there are some emojis missing.
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Flat back 9 :o
Looking to play on the break.
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He should have stayed on...just to be able to pass to our players. No consideration from him.
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Think we should play for penalties
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Down to 10 men as Kanu off injured and no subs left. Make a mockery of the Dawson sub. Left us having to struggle of last 22 minutes.
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Great to see just how far Field and Harper have come, they look so calm and assured. You wouldn't think it was Harpers fifth(?) Game for us.
Yep, strange that they seem so assured and more like 'senior' players than some of the other fringe players
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Christ I hope this is a 4 month thigh tear.
Just need Bartlett hammy to twang and that's a good night all round.
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Total wasted chance this. Shocking game management with that Morgan Rogers substitution.
Complete backs to the wall now.
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Harper's contract needs sorting. He will be some player.
Tulloch also looks a cracking prospect. Looks better than leko already
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Total wasted chance this. Shocking game management with that Morgan Rogers substitution.
Complete backs to the wall now.
Yep, we're not going to have any of the ball at all now.
I think that Rogers change was lined up after we'd scored and were winning and wasn't changed for some reason after Brighton scored.
On the other hand, Murray coming on now..
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Total wasted chance this. Shocking game management with that Morgan Rogers substitution.
Complete backs to the wall now.
Morgan has been on fire in the reserves, fully deserves his chance.
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Bond IS number ONE
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Where has the BBC coverage gone??
Had it on iplayer, went loo and now it's the news?!
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Bond IS number ONE
Agreed he looks very good.
BBC2 for the match.
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Kanu down...Too old !!!He is ready to become a pensioner
I just looked up how old he is, I was amazed to discover he's only 29.
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There it is then. Bartley is such a thick footballer. Cost us the game by himself tonight
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Utterly dreadful defending by Bartley again.
Waste of time.
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There you go...Bartley is rubbish.
1-2 murray
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Obvious..we can't defend as a 3 man defence.
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The subs we’ve made in this game have AGAIN been awful
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Bartley is a pub league player utterly awful
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Bartley so poor wow!
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Bartley absolutely woeful. I hope we never see him play again.
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Bartley is s**t.
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This experiment with a 3 man defence needs to be put to bed
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KB is utterly awful, he has literally cost us this game on his own.
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Bartley really is a poor player. You can't just keep backing off and still get done.
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Don't worry. This is setup for Morgan to shine ;D
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They bring on experienced scorer Murray and score. Why didn't we use Gayle?
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And there we go. Thank god I made the wise decision not to go. Yet more brilliant in game management from Moore costs us, yet I’m continually told I’m wrong on the point...yes right.
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Big Dave is at fault here. Team selections and substitutions baffling.
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Moore did not care sadly. The 11 and the subs show it, hopefully resting players will pay off?!
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Sorry but big Dave is just not good enough, our subs defenders on for strikers or kids, Brighton brings on their top scorer to try and win the game
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And the dream's death rattle resounds around the ground. A great opportunity spurned.
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Bartley wouldn't get a game for the dog n duck. Cack, cack, cack.
If Dawson went off injured then Toxin must play sat,
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Big Dave is at fault here. Team selections and substitutions baffling.
Unfortunately have to agree.
Subs too soon (as said previously)
Watch the game and THEN decide !!!
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Sorry but big Dave is just not good enough, our subs defenders on for strikers or kids, Brighton brings on their top scorer to try and win the game
Rested players for the first game then lost at home the following week. I doubt it’ll make any difference
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Big Dave is at fault here. Team selections and substitutions baffling.
Can't plan for your defensive sub needing to be subbed and your striker going off injured???????
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Moan if he doesn't play the kida, moan when he does. I've enjoyed watching the young lads play today, they've definitly not let us down. We can't plan for Kyle Bartley being the worst centre half we've had.
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Typical, the donkey scores for them.
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Moan if he doesn't play the kida, moan when he does. I've enjoyed watching the young lads play today, they've definitly not let us down. We can't plan for Kyle Bartley being the worst centre half we've had.
Well you can...by never picking him
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Can't plan for your defensive sub needing to be subbed and your striker going off injured???????
Haha tell me about it, Did Dave not know two players were going to get injured! He should of kept the kids on the bench!!! :-\
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Sadly we care more about promotion than a cup run. Especially with this year without a number of premier league teams left.
The commentators are banging on about how unlucky we are and how Moore must be gutted. I bet he's loving not having the cup to worry about now.
We'd better win on Saturday now after resting for that game or I'm not going to be pleased at all.
Will we ever have a season again where going for a cup is an objective?
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Clueless commentators...Our best cup run since we got the semis in 2008. Guessing the quarter final at Villa Park doesn't count?
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Can't plan for your defensive sub needing to be subbed and your striker going off injured???????
What was the point in wasting a substition (Tulloch) in final few minutes? Borderline ridiculous with the game in the balance and we were weathering a storm.
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Fields hamstring has gone now.
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btw...PLEASE practise passing. We are severely lacking in this department.
We NEED a midfield general and NOT substitute him at half time.
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What was the point in wasting a substition (Tulloch) in final few minutes? Borderline ridiculous with the game in the balance and we were weathering a storm.
Tulloch has been good, it's Rogers who was bought on and the lads 16. He was due to come on before they scored. You can't win with some people.
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Should have kept a back 4 and saved the subs
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You can plan for not taking Rodriguez off switching to a back 3 that never works and isolating Kanu who had to over exert himself and pulled up as a result.
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To me it seems like a game nobody really wants to win.... we wouldn't win the cup regardless of tonight and it seems BHA not really bothered either. Shame the FA cup has come to this imho - impressed if only to see some kids getting some game time
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Moan if he doesn't play the kida, moan when he does. I've enjoyed watching the young lads play today, they've definitly not let us down. We can't plan for Kyle Bartley being the worst centre half we've had.
Pain for the present, hope for the future. Impressed with the kids and we just don't give up!!
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So much back and sidewards passing, it just invites the opposition to come forward.
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Fields hamstring has gone now.
Seems just to be cramp
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And why have we put Rogers on the corners? Could have done with a decent delivery there
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Moan if he doesn't play the kida, moan when he does. I've enjoyed watching the young lads play today, they've definitly not let us down. We can't plan for Kyle Bartley being the worst centre half we've had.
The kids haven't cost us tonight, its that useless Bartley.
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You can plan for not taking Rodriguez off switching to a back 3 that never works and isolating Kanu who had to over exert himself and pulled up as a result.
A professional footballer over exerting himself.......really
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I defy anyone to make a serious case that we could get promoted AND not be thoroughly embarrassed in the subsequent season including a double drubbing by Wolves.
There is much work to do here first, particularly after the loan signings depart. Judging by the actions of our current ownership we are entering uncertain times.
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Chance for Rogers there. Just needed to get anything on that
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Stick our proper striker on and that’s 2-2
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Don't care how old he is. Has to do better there.
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I defy anyone to make a serious case that we could get promoted AND not be thoroughly embarrassed in the subsequent season including a double drubbing by Wolves.
There is much work to do here first, particularly after the loan signings depart. Judging by the actions of our current ownership we are entering uncertain times.
When the loan signings depart, we have a bunch of youth players who look very good and will be given chance to step up if we are in the Championship league still
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Oh come on ???
That wasn't inexperience, that was just rubbish. Almost as if they've been told not to score...
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He's bottled that then.
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Great chance. FFS. Come on lads!
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Don't care how old he is. Has to do better there.
Quite. Just needed to touch it. Proper striker up the other end just finished it
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Goodnight god bless
Bad management for me tonight
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Look back.. I said 3-1. But unfortunately to them
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All over. Glad they moved it an I couldn't go. Complete waste of a night.
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Bartley is pooh
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Rubbish management tonight. Rubbish subs.
Good night.
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knackered at the end - probably hasn't done us much good for the w/e - disappointing we have so many loan players but valuable experience for the young uns
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The donkey again!
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Some awful corners tonight
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Goodnight god bless
Bad management for me tonight
New levels of bad. Reached levels I didn’t think possible, every single decision a disaster
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Fields corners have been dreadful also.
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Darren need to get harder and not pick his mates.
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pooh. Ah well, brave effort from the youngsters.
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Well at least villa is on a Saturday
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Darren need to get harder and not pick his mates.
Theres only 3 players in the bench over 20, doubt he's mates with the 8 other players!
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I’ve enjoyed this even though we lost
The kids look good prospects
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Feels like Groundhog Day every season. Go out weakly at home and repeat next season. We should’ve held on and we give an absolute charity goal away. Frustrated.
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When the loan signings depart, we have a bunch of youth players who look very good and will be given chance to step up if we are in the Championship league still
I agree that Harper has shown enough to get into a championship team next year but the others haven't. Field? Maybe. Leko? Not favoured.
They will not fill the gap of the retiring players and the loanees moving on.
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Darren too naive.
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Kids did us proud tonight, very good performances. Unfortunately it's was a player we spent 5mil on that done us over tonkght...
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A successful exercise in not going through. Ref and Bartley have cost us the game.
We weren't remotely bothered about going through, taking off 1st team regulars and bringing on kids tells the whole story.
Hopefully Kanu is out long enough for Montero and Murphy to make themselves indispensable.
Shame about the total lack of ambition even though I understand it.
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Enjoyed seeing the kids play, unlucky going down to ten. Great heart till the legs went. Now awaiting the deluge of negativity.
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Brighton wanted it more than we did. By that, I don't mean the kids who played, but the management.
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The young lads have been let down tonight by the more experienced lads.
Bartley is one of the worst defenders I've ever seen in the stripes.
Just don't understand the substitutions tonight. Woeful.
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Someone tell me what was going on with the jrod Dawson Hegazi substitions?
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Gotta give it to the kids tonight...well done
Think trying to experiment with that back 3 again cost us, meant we used subs we needed later on
We just looked shattered at the end
I honestly don’t think we even wanted to be in the competition...but I did!
Think there was some poor management tonight
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All in all not a bad performance from the young lads just let down by the 'experienced' heads. Harper and Field stood out, Tulloch showed flashes and put himself about, Rogers maybe a step too early for the lad but no excuses for the sitter he missed.
Complain all you like about subs and game management but it was obvious neither team wanted to win and it was great to give game time to the young lads who took a premier league team to extra time.
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Someone tell me what was going on with the jrod Dawson Hegazi substitions?
We await the explanation. Can only presume niggles and taken off as precaution.
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Took a Prem side to extra time only losing when down to 10 men. Some strange subs but can't legislate for injuries.
Proud of Harper, Field, Tulloch and Rogers, the future looks bright.
Bartley cack, just cack.
Bond better than Johnstone.
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Darren Moore is not good enough match coach - fact
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Kids did well again , in fairness to Darren he's done this in every cup game so was to be expected team wise.
Hope we haven't picked up too many injuries and that wretched 3 at the back doesn't return.
Harper stands out again but doesn't he tire quickly every game.
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Fantastic to see the kids do so well. Harper excellent tonight I thought. Clearly we had no interest in risking our first team, yet we have potentially lost two or three to injury which is a bit of a nightmare.
If we don’t get promoted and we lose a lot of our first team then we have one hell of a youth team available to us.
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Brave effort from the young lads Tulloch looks a good player with a bright future, shocking use of the subs again in game management is becoming a glaring issue and has cost us lots of points this season. I hope to god I don’t have to see Bartley in an albion shirt again utter waste of £4 million Swansea have had our pants down on that pub player is been kind.
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Kids did us proud tonight, very good performances. Unfortunately it's was a player we spent 5mil on that done us over tonkght...
Agreed, they guy is a complete liability. We looked good when the ball was no where near him. Very impressed with the kids. If they had one down to 10 men I would of expected Gayle to have come on but we will never know.
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A successful exercise in not going through. Ref and Bartley have cost us the game.
We weren't remotely bothered about going through, taking off 1st team regulars and bringing on kids tells the whole story.
Hopefully Kanu is out long enough for Montero and Murphy to make themselves indispensable.
Shame about the total lack of ambition even though I understand it.
Kanu did well tonight. I can't believe you're hoping for a long term injury to an Albion player who gave his all. You should be embarrassed.
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A successful exercise in not going through. Ref and Bartley have cost us the game.
We weren't remotely bothered about going through, taking off 1st team regulars and bringing on kids tells the whole story.
Hopefully Kanu is out long enough for Montero and Murphy to make themselves indispensable.
Shame about the total lack of ambition even though I understand it.
HRK getting injured will be a blessing as you say
If they are going to purposely go out then they need to go up. Simple as that
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Very glad we’re playing these youngsters. Something Pulis never did. HRK going off killed this tie for us
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I felt our kids played well.
Bartley is terrible
Why have Gayle on the bench when the game is at 1-1 and not use him.
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Disappointed as would have liked a chance at a run with how the bigger teams have been falling this year.
Sadly it looks like even when we aren't having to fight for survival and thus forfeit the cups we're having to focus on the league still and forfeit this one. Feel for anyone that made that trip and stuck around til the end.
Said it in the in-game thread that I'm expecting our rested players to turn up on Saturday and us to win or I'm not going to be happy. Ironically resting a load of the starting 11 and we've still potentially got injuries with Dawson and HRK (and potentially Field, and maybe J-Rod too?)
Saying that the kids do look bright, Harper and Field are looking more and more like first eleven players and Bond fills me with confidence. Tulloch looked lively also. The young kid Rogers missed an absolute sitter though.
Hopefully that again shows we can't play 3 at the back, especially without decent cbs and a deeper midfielder in the middle. Hopefully it also shows that Bartley should be nowhere near the starting 11, similarly Mears who I thought made some awful decisions tonight.
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Took a Prem side to extra time only losing when down to 10 men. Some strange subs but can't legislate for injuries.
Proud of Harper, Field, Tulloch and Rogers, the future looks bright.
Bartley cack, just cack.
Bond better than Johnstone.
Weak link even in second string.
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Someone tell me what was going on with the jrod Dawson Hegazi substitions?
I think they are intending to bring back the 3 at the back formation and they were interchanging the players to see who worked best
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Very strange decisions tonight from our manager
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Darren too naive.
Nonsense, his game plan worked until Kanu pulled up lame.
Kanu did well tonight. I can't believe you're hoping for a long term injury to an Albion player who gave his all. You should be embarrassed.
I'm embarrassed he's a regular starter for us. I must have missed all the goals and assists he provides week in week out.
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I think they are intending to bring back the 3 at the back formation and they were interchanging the players to see who worked best
Possible, Brighton were getting there full backs in behind our two wide strikers and causing us problems, I thought Darren switched it to counter that.
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A successful exercise in not going through. Ref and Bartley have cost us the game.
We weren't remotely bothered about going through, taking off 1st team regulars and bringing on kids tells the whole story.
Hopefully Kanu is out long enough for Montero and Murphy to make themselves indispensable.
Shame about the total lack of ambition even though I understand it.
This , as I posted myself Moore's done it every Cup game so is to be expected . We can't moan he doesn't play the kids if we don't accept how he does it .
Look how Harper has stepped up in the League after breaking through in Cup games , lets hope the likes of Tulloch do the same.
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Excellent from the kids tonight, all of them.
Like to know if Dawson or Rodriguez were injured before I say anything about the subs, if Dawson especially was not injured then Darren you cost us that tonight.
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Why so much negativity about HRK?
Thought he done a decent job tonight and received a standing ovation on Saturday.
Hopefully he’s not out for long, we’re goinh to need him with our run in
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Darren Moore is not good enough match coach - fact
Not good enough to what? Beat a team from the league above with 10 men?
Ridiculous comment.
And no it's not a fact. It may be your opinion but fact it is not.
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Why so much negativity about HRK?
Thought he done a decent job tonight and received a standing ovation on Saturday.
Hopefully he’s not out for long, we’re goinh to need him with our run in
In my opinion the negativity is due to him being awful.
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management...No idea of the game in front of them
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how i miss the days when cup competitions meant something to the club. this was a great chance to progress with a home tie in the next round. said before when do we benefit from resting first steamers from cup games? where are the players who cost us Saturday? I think they earn enough to play twice a week.
couldnt care less about the Premiership where we'd get murdered week in week out so at least have a go in the cup.
another thing whoever coaches our defence at improving them one jot.
inebriated off.
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Think we should have put Gayle on when they equalised through incompetent defending by Bartley and Dawson. Kanu should have stayed on to occupy their defence.
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Great management by Darren Moore. Gave the kids a great run in the cup and took a prem side at near full strength to extra time over two leg. Roll on the weekend.
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Think we should have put Gayle on when they equalised through incompetent defending by Bartley and Dawson. Kanu should have stayed on to occupy their defence.
Dawson not remotely to blame.
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Dawson not remotely to blame.
He really was.
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Decent performance and well done to the kids but Brighton wanted it and we (manager) didnt. They bring on their top striker to win the tie for them whilst we leave our top scorer on the bench.
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Nonsense, his game plan worked until Kanu pulled up lame.
I'm embarrassed he's a regular starter for us. I must have missed all the goals and assists he provides week in week out.
Take a step back, sit down and have a little think on this.
You are saying that the game plan was working until Kano got injured, implying that he was important to the team. Yes?
You are then embarrassed that he's a regular starter for us. Whose fault is that? Does Kanu pick the team now or is this still Darren Moore?
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Fair enough, it is my opinion. I think he has made a lot of strange tactical decisions and subs throughout the season. Tonight was no exemption, reverting to a backthree with Mears as wingback, playing Rogers instead of Gayle, not throwing everything forward last 5 mins and so on
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Nonsense, his game plan worked until Kanu pulled up lame.
I'm embarrassed he's a regular starter for us. I must have missed all the goals and assists he provides week in week out.
there's a compilation on you tube of all 41 goals, it spans over 11 years though 😉
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He really was.
You can't have ever kicked a ball in anger if you think he should have anticipated a 20 yard bounce on a first touch of a professional footballer.
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there's a compilation on you tube of all 41 goals, it spans over 11 years though 😉
Grim, its him then who should be embarrassed every time he looks at his bank balance.
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Proud of the youngsters but we do really need to be able to apply the cynical stuff far better. We ended up with the ten when it was patently obvious Brighton should have been down to that number for far longer. Then of course the dirty little premplayer gets the equaliser. Oh well on with the bread and butter stuff. Bond and Hoolahan deserve a start, Harper and Field should always be in contention and Tulloch and Rogers look good prospects so don’t let them get disillusioned. Mears Bartley etc are what they are, and HRK whilst not any answer at CF generally does a respectable shift at this level. With fairer more even handed officials we might have done a lot better tonight.
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I enjoyed watching the kids but it is clear that we didn’t respect the competition. Just hope we win on Saturday now.
Bartley was at fault for first goal but according to some on here he’s to blame for everything, maybe even the Brexit debacle :D
Onwards and upwards
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You can't have ever kicked a ball in anger if you think he should have anticipated a 20 yard bounce on a first touch of a professional footballer.
He had plenty of time to rectify Bartley's error but reacted to slowly and then ended up on his backside.
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I just hope that this game doesn’t cost us more than the cup run. Field and Harper gave their all tonight but looked done for well before the end. As those two have started recent league games, I just hope that they are not injured. A worry over JRod too.
As for all those on here giving stick to HRK, I would question how much of an Albion fan they are; the bloke did well tonight and ran himself into the ground, as he did last weekend. As for Bartley, oh yes, scored a goal, didn’t he? If criticism needs to be given out, give it to the awful BBC for giving us a day less recovery before a big game at the weekend. Well done to the lads........
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Not good enough to what? Beat a team from the league above with 10 men?
Ridiculous comment.
And no it's not a fact. It may be your opinion but fact it is not.
I have a fact
It is a fact that an increasing amount of fans are questioning the management of this team
Now some on here will argue/fall out over the individual,points like Brunt, subs,playing from the back...but the FACT is that the noise is getting louder
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8,645 there :o It was indeed our lowest ever 4th round (or equivalent) crowd at the Hawthorns. Incidentally, 59,448 against Pompey in 1956 is the highest.
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Dawson not remotely to blame.
bullied of the ball
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Dawson not remotely to blame.
He certainly didn’t cover himself in glory, he had a 3 or 4 yard head start on the striker and was more bothered about making a half hearted attempt at playing the man not the ball, the only excuse that can be made for Dawson’s defending is he was utterly stunned a professional footballer on 20k a week could take a touch that bounces 7 yards away from him, the defending from both of them was appalling.
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Given our size and stature, we have to be a route for youth and in that respect tonight was a win. However it seems we could have so easily pushed more with better decisions, and none of those resolve around this kids.
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Too many old men who are Darren's friends get games.
We must become killers who want to win.
Forget the old pals act.
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I thought it was odd we were playing with a False 9 from minute 46 onwards.
However, if Bartley doesn’t make that ricket we win the tie. Brighton looked shell-shocked at 1-0. We even had a decent opportunity to go two up just before equaliser.
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I enjoyed watching the kids but it is clear that we didn’t respect the competition. Just hope we win on Saturday now.
Bartley was at fault for first goal but according to some on here he’s to blame for everything, maybe even the Brexit debacle :D
Onwards and upwards
at fault for all goals
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Given our size and stature, we have to be a route for youth and in that respect tonight was a win. However it seems we could have so easily pushed more with better decisions, and none of those resolve around this kids.
Imagine how those kids feel when Gayle comes on scores 2 in 10 mins and see us through
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Why is Bartley getting all the blame? Yes it was a bad touch but Dawson for me wasn’t on his toes just like Saturday against assabalonga!! Unfortunately the early subs didn’t help, played into Brighton hands later on! Well used subs from Hughton. Anyway the kids were excellent.
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If you watch the equaliser again. Bartley is at fault for his own mistake AND the perceived mistake Dawson has made, then a further mistake of his own. After his dreadful first touch he then makes a move towards the ball which causes Dawson to hesitate. Then Bartley waved his arms to suggest he intended to pass the ball to Dawson and THEN he gets nutmegged on the edge of the box. Woeful.
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Too many old men who are Darren's friends get games.
We must become killers who want to win.
Forget the old pals act.
What? Harper, Field, Tulloch, Tosin, Jrod, Dawson, Hegazi, Rogers ????
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Mistakes at the back cost us again tonight, frustrating to think that these coaches seem unable to cut out costly errors. Fine the culprits two weeks wages guaranted they stop sharpish. In relation to respecting the cup I see pep who is a trailblazer puts out full strength team in both domestic cups maybe other managers will take note
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What? Harper, Field, Tulloch, Tosin, Jrod, Dawson, Hegazi, Rogers ??? ?
Can only assume he means Mears who while poor after we went to a 3, was not to blame for the defeat, he normally means Brunt and Morrison too but they weren't involved it's a catch all phrase I've seen regularly on here.
Darren's mates yawn.
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Mistakes at the back cost us again tonight, frustrating to think that these coaches seem unable to cut out costly errors. Fine the culprits two weeks wages guaranted they stop sharpish. In relation to respecting the cup I see pep who is a trailblazer puts out full strength team in both domestic cups maybe other managers will take note
Is it possible to even tell what their full strength team is? Last time i looked DeBruyne was on the bench :o
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Mistakes at the back cost us again tonight, frustrating to think that these coaches seem unable to cut out costly errors. Fine the culprits two weeks wages guaranted they stop sharpish. In relation to respecting the cup I see pep who is a trailblazer puts out full strength team in both domestic cups maybe other managers will take note
Hahaha when Big Dave has a net spend of half a billion pounds I'll be on board with this view.
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If you watch the equaliser again. Bartley is at fault for his own mistake AND the perceived mistake Dawson has made, then a further mistake of his own. After his dreadful first touch he then makes a move towards the ball which causes Dawson to hesitate. Then Bartley waved his arms to suggest he intended to pass the ball to Dawson and THEN he gets nutmegged on the edge of the box. Woeful.
yeah thinking about it again, you’re right jacko. Bartley really made a complete mess of it. Hopefully he won’t ever get back into the first team
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Bartley is rubbish
HRK held the ball up well and was the pick of the Forwads
Tullick looks a good prospect
Field was solid but gets caught in possession too much
Harper plays well for 79 mins and runs out of steam
Mears tries hard but lacks quality
Bond should start in next game
Overall good practice game for youngsters and for future squad development
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I have a fact
It is a fact that an increasing amount of fans are questioning the management of this team
Now some on here will argue/fall out over the individual,points like Brunt, subs,playing from the back...but the FACT is that the noise is getting louder
Just because some people are making a large noise does not mean they are correct, they just follow a populist opinion that falls apart when questioned. One may even say there should be a special place in Wolverhampton for them.
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If you watch the equaliser again. Bartley is at fault for his own mistake AND the perceived mistake Dawson has made, then a further mistake of his own. After his dreadful first touch he then makes a move towards the ball which causes Dawson to hesitate. Then Bartley waved his arms to suggest he intended to pass the ball to Dawson and THEN he gets nutmegged on the edge of the box. Woeful.
And I suppose he was at fault for it going through Bonds legs as well unbelievable
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Mention should be made about the ref, why are so many of them so poor? The Brighton no. 10 should have been sent off, the idiot was looking straight at it and did nothing apart from laugh! Later on, Hughton was having a go at the fourth official over some perceived oversight by the ref, the moaning fool should have been thanking the ref for the generosity of allowing Brighton to continue with all 11 players.
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And I suppose he was at fault for it going through Bonds legs as well unbelievable
Indirectly I suppose he was BECAUSE THE ENTIRE PASSAGE OF PLAY SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF HE COULD CONTROL A FOOTBALL.
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Hahaha when Big Dave has a net spend of half a billion pounds I'll be on board with this view.
don't need a big budget but play your best team, which for me would have been Bond, back four from league Harper, Barry and Field in the middle with top three of Gayle, Rodriguez and Wes
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As anticipated neither Rodriguez nor Dawson are injured.
We used this tie like a friendly.
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don't need a big budget but play your best team, which for me would have been Bond, back four from league Harper, Barry and Field in the middle with top three of Gayle, Rodriguez and Wes
That's fine when your second team is almost undiscernable in quality from your first eleven. The decision was made early in the season to have a cup side made up of development players and second string....rightly or wrongly....And they have been consistent with it.
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Some strange tactics again by Moore or was it by Jones? Jones seemed to be in charge of things at the end of 90mins. Having Hegazi and Dawson on the bench was weird unless the pre game plan was always to have another go at 3 at the back during the 2nd half. We left ourselves susceptible to going down to 10 men by using subs early unless it was forced by injuries. The game was there for the taking tonight with a great chance to get to the QFs and beyond with a kind draw which makes it disappointing.
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As anticipated neither Rodriguez nor Dawson are injured.
We used this tie like a friendly.
Confirmed where Jacko? ...just to save me searching. Curious.
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Some strange tactics again by Moore or was it by Jones? Jones seemed to be in charge of things at the end of 90mins. Having Hegazi and Dawson on the bench was weird unless the pre game plan was always to have another go at 3 at the back during the 2nd half. We left ourselves susceptible to going down to 10 men by using subs early unless it was forced by injuries. The game was there for the taking tonight with a great chance to get to the QFs and beyond with a kind draw which makes it disappointing.
Jones is desperate for us to return to 3 at the back. Was definitely pre planned tonight.
Confirmed where Jacko? ...just to save me searching. Curious.
Matt Wilson has interviewed Moore after the game.
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For what it's worth I think a three with Tosin over Bartley now we have Holgate is an option worth investigating. Untill the wheels came off it produced some devastating football in spells.
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Confirmed where Jacko? ...just to save me searching. Curious.
if this is true then Moore should come out and explain these decisions or is it Jones who runs the football team (see extra time half time)
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For what it's worth I think a three with Tosin over Bartley now we have Holgate is an option worth investigating. Untill the wheels came off it produced some devastating football in spells.
Would mean one of the other loanees couldn't play. Reverting to a 3 is a disaster imo because if it happens it happens with Bartley and rules out one of the attacking loans because we would need Tosin on the bench.
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Same old mistakes cost us really, poor individual errors at the back. Feel if we had a Phillips or Gayle on with that added bit of quality we may have nicked it... If's and buts though... Kids played very well. Tulloch really got us up the pitch and showed glimpses of quality. Bit odd seeing Jones taking lots of the team talk at the end of the game, Moore looked liked he was listening in, maybe it happens but just something i saw. Gutted to go out love the fa cup was disappointed with the attendance tonight aswell, mid week cup game on tv but should be getting more in than that, especially as the digles sold out. Full steam ahead through a massive February now!!!
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Would mean one of the other loanees couldn't play. Reverting to a 3 is a disaster imo because if it happens it happens with Bartley and rules out one of the attacking loans because we would need Tosin on the bench.
Cannot play 3 with Bartley. As some would say.....fact ;D
If Johansen is the player we are hoping that would leave one of the wingers left out. Hmmmm.
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Haven't got players for three at back central defenders aren't good enough.
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Cannot play 3 with Bartley. As some would say.....fact ;D
If Johansen is the player we are hoping that would leave one of the wingers left out. Hmmmm.
Cannot play Bartley.
FACT.
Or is it end of?
;D
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Cannot play 3 with Bartley. As some would say.....fact ;D
If Johansen is the player we are hoping that would leave one of the wingers left out. Hmmmm.
I'm concerned playing 3 at the back might mean Johansen is the one who does not make the squad considering Brunt was rested and HRK is injured. I hope not but it wouldn't surprise ...
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8,645 there :o It was indeed our lowest ever 4th round (or equivalent) crowd at the Hawthorns. Incidentally, 59,445 against Pompey in 1956 is the highest.
if the coaches use this as a friendly then would you blame the fans from not bothering
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Fantastic to see the kids do so well. Harper excellent tonight I thought. Clearly we had no interest in risking our first team, yet we have potentially lost two or three to injury which is a bit of a nightmare.
If we don’t get promoted and we lose a lot of our first team then we have one hell of a youth team available to us.
Correct. It's a shame we didn't get more kids out on loan. That Tulloch looks ready for a loan. Nice to see the academy flourishing. Harper needs a new deal. I also thought field had a good game. Rogers had a chance at 2-1 which could have changed the game next thing you know it was 3-1
As said by jacko and co we had no interest in going through or at least risking "senior first team" players to do so. Can only assume Rodriguez got a knock hence why he was taken off. Even so it was a strange sub and he should have either brought on Gayle or one of the young forwards earlier... back 3 a disaster again.
Think hoolahan deserves a go in the first team. Could easily play a free role behind a front 2 of Rodriguez and Gayle (HRK needs and has needed dropping for a while)
Poor by Darren Moore throwing the cup as it is wide open and we had a home draw that was a winnable game. Brighton didn't look that good and over 2 games it was there for the taking and we have blown it.
However I can't fault the players and their effort & commitment. Great to see the kids get a go and look so promising. They should have had 10 men amazed the ref didn't see it. A few more first teamers out there and more proactive subs and we probably be in the 5th round
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I’d have been interested to read the comments in here had we still got Pulis in charge and we took off a striker at half time yesterday to throw on another defender...
I remember the pelters he got whenever he rested players for a cup game. Bizarre the difference in reactions between the two managers
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I’d have been interested to read the comments in here had we still got Pulis in charge and we took off a striker at half time yesterday to throw on another defender...
I remember the pelters he got whenever he rested players for a cup game. Bizarre the difference in reactions between the two managers
But Pulis has done that time after time after time and wove his own noose.
Strange sub - but doing this to go to a back three meant Bartley was out of his depth again as cannot play in a three as it has been proved, Brighton looked more of a threat then.
The academy kids did well and bodes well for next season when the superstars have gone.
I just wish we had more aggression - that’s going to cost us promotion as I don’t think the players are up for much of a scrap
Hope I’m wrong
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But Pulis has done that time after time after time and wove his own noose.
Strange sub - but doing this to go to a back three meant Bartley was out of his depth again as cannot play in a three as it has been proved, Brighton looked more of a threat then.
The academy kids did well and bodes well for next season when the superstars have gone.
I just wish we had more aggression - that’s going to cost us promotion as I don’t think the players are up for much of a scrap
Hope I’m wrong
What do you describe as time after time? Darren has played a weak side in every cup game he’s taken charge of with us...is that not time after time?
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Here's an away view if you're interested.
It is a crying shame that modern football reduces the FA Cup to fringe squad players and on balance I think our squad players probably just about deserved it.
Thought Tulloch looked a real prospect for you and HRK is the kind of immobile big man it is easy to underappreciate - Ashley Barnes was held in similar regard with us, but I'd have him over Andone and Locadia, neither of whom are remotely prolific enough as you saw over 2 games.
Ultimately you only lost it because your manager had made all his subs too early. Schoolboy error, that. Oh, and because Glenn Murray just simply puts the ball in the net. I worry for us when he retires, we are far too dependent on him.
Anyway, best of luck this season - I hope you got up, and it's a sentiment that is shared by many on our board it seems.
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What do you describe as time after time? Darren has played a weak side in every cup game he’s taken charge of with us...is that not time after time?
who was the last manager that didn’t? If that’s the level of scrutiny no manager would last the season.
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Really disappointed with the result.
Like many others I thought the substitutions were just odd. As far as the kids go thought they all did well apart from Rogers who was like a rabbit in the headlights and missed a sitter but he is very young and was playing against Premier League defenders so it's not surprising he didn't make any impact, should have been Gayle that was brought on though.
Would have liked us to have fielded a stronger side but promotion is more important to the club than the cups.
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What a weird game - it was almost like an England friendly. Perhaps if Jones is running the show he thought he was managing a Belgian international friendly ?
I enjoyed watching the kids get on the pitch but it almost seemed reckless to do that to that extent last night and use/ waste two subs in Dawson/ JRod? Weird - I'm beginning to wonder about Moore a bit to be honest after that. Another question lingers is whether Jones is really the one in charge and Moore is a front man? That's the way it seemed last night?
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Here's an away view if you're interested.
It is a crying shame that modern football reduces the FA Cup to fringe squad players and on balance I think our squad players probably just about deserved it.
Thought Tulloch looked a real prospect for you and HRK is the kind of immobile big man it is easy to underappreciate - Ashley Barnes was held in similar regard with us, but I'd have him over Andone and Locadia, neither of whom are remotely prolific enough as you saw over 2 games.
Ultimately you only lost it because your manager had made all his subs too early. Schoolboy error, that. Oh, and because Glenn Murray just simply puts the ball in the net. I worry for us when he retires, we are far too dependent on him.
Anyway, best of luck this season - I hope you got up, and it's a sentiment that is shared by many on our board it seems.
Always nice to see the view from the opposition so thanks for popping on and sharing.
Whilst its disappointing to go out last night, I think overall you guys deserved it over the 120 minutes. Murray came on and made the difference, something which Gayle may have done for us if we hadn't used all our subs so early.
I really like the look of your centre midfielder, Bassouma? He has looked tidy over the 2 games.
Good luck for the rest of the season.
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Now the dust has settled abit and I have had a think about it, I have tried to take the positives out of the game.
1 - The youth players are ready and can be relied upon to help out the first team, they will have took a lot of experience out of the 2 games and will have learnt a lot, which could be invaluable.
2 - The experience for Rogers will help him immensely, seemed nervy at first which is expected but had one moment where he turned the defender inside out and drove forward/
3 - Tulloch looks a real prospect.
4 - The subs were bemusing, was Rodriguez injured or being saved? Did we need to make the Dawson sub or again was he being saved. In hindsight the early subs killed us off. If we could have replaced HRK with Gayle and kept 11 on the field we may have been having a different conversation.
5 - The experiment of 3-5-2 didn't work for me and cements my opinion that we need to continue as 4-3-3.
6 - Hoolahan should be getting ALOT more game time, he is above Brunt, Morrison and all the other 'regular' subs that are made.
7 - I still think Johnstone is a better keeper than Bond.
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Why so much negativity about HRK?
Thought he done a decent job tonight and received a standing ovation on Saturday.
Hopefully he’s not out for long, we’re goinh to need him with our run in
Have to agree, he played well last night, but he shouldn't be starting in the Championship first team now we have other options.
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Have to agree, he played well last night, but he shouldn't be starting in the Championship first team now we have other options.
think he gave Jones shares in his tech firm so don't hold your breath, yes Jones from where I'm looking it's him who runs the football side of club
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8,645 there :o It was indeed our lowest ever 4th round (or equivalent) crowd at the Hawthorns. Incidentally, 59,448 against Pompey in 1956 is the highest.
When’s the last time we had a crowd that low for a competitive game?
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I've been going regularly since 2001 and I have never seen one that low. Bit ironic I think when we see people moaning about not getting a Villa ticket
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Anyone else just sick and tired of how we go out in the cup? It seems like a broken record now. Face a mediocre side at home we are capable of beating, we score, they score, then they score another one in the second half and we can't equalise. Repeat next season and go out hopelessly early.
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Anyone else just sick and tired of how we go out in the cup? It seems like a broken record now. Face a mediocre side at home we are capable of beating, we score, they score, then they score another one in the second half and we can't equalise. Repeat next season and go out hopelessly early.
define “hopelessly early� Round of 32 isn’t terrible out of 737 teams.
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define “hopelessly early� Round of 32 isn’t terrible out of 737 teams.
In my mind, going out in first two games of the competition is early. Hopelessly is subjective, but its an early exit.
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Anyone else just sick and tired of how we go out in the cup? It seems like a broken record now. Face a mediocre side at home we are capable of beating, we score, they score, then they score another one in the second half and we can't equalise. Repeat next season and go out hopelessly early.
Normally under previous regimes thats fringe players / bomb squad , in fairness Moore has played kids in both cups in every game .
I agree on the going out softly but these kids will have gained far , far more from Cup games than the odd under 23 game.
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For what it is worth I thought we played well. Harper, Tulloch, Field all with great performances, Bond again solid in goal. Some strange substitutions I will grant you- Dawson (a sub already) for Hegazi? However, I am pleased he used the youngsters, I enjoyed watching them, their effort was first class, and I think we would have one if it wasn't for a colossal cock up in defence to make it 1-1. Sorry but given we still have hopes of automatic promotion, or approach to this match was spot on. We may even have risked too much if Dawson is injured alongside HRK- who had a good game IMO.
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You can't have ever kicked a ball in anger if you think he should have anticipated a 20 yard bounce on a first touch of a professional footballer.
Dawson knew straight away he couldn't get to the ball first in a one on one foot race, so he tried to block the guy's run and ended up on all fours - not really his fault he got put in that situation
On the 3 at the back business, I can't be the only one to have noticed that although we are much better away as 433, our home form has pretty well tanked since the switch. Maybe we should be 3 at the back at home.
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Dawson knew straight away he couldn't get to the ball first in a one on one foot race, so he tried to block the guy's run and ended up on all fours - not really his fault he got put in that situation
Not Dawson's fault at all he and everyone else should be taking for granted Bartley controlling that ball. You have to trust the players you play with. Shocking from Bartley, added to the penalty he should've conceded at the Amex. Contrary to what some people say "he's better now he's in a four", he's just the same as he always was, poor.
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For what it is worth I thought we played well. Harper, Tulloch, Field all with great performances, Bond again solid in goal. Some strange substitutions I will grant you- Dawson (a sub already) for Hegazi? However, I am pleased he used the youngsters, I enjoyed watching them, their effort was first class, and I think we would have one if it wasn't for a colossal cock up in defence to make it 1-1. Sorry but given we still have hopes of automatic promotion, or approach to this match was spot on. We may even have risked too much if Dawson is injured alongside HRK- who had a good game IMO.
I agree with all of this. The young blood looks promising. Substitution choices and timing however were what cost us the match. That and the fact that they should have been down to ten men.
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Disappointed to head out in the fashion that we did.
I thought the young lads acquitted themselves very well - Field and Harper looked knackered throughout extra time. The lad Tulloch looks a breath of fresh air and seemed a bit more developed than Leko. I thought Rogers struggled to get to grips with the game and missed a good opportunity.
I thought the first half was relatively even - the second half was OK going forwards but struggled defensively when we moved to the three at the back.
Some of the goals we gave away was poor - I will forgive the third as we were dead on our feet and it took a horrible deflection from Field who could not get out quick enough. The first goal I want to see again but the initial error was appalling.
I do not - and still do not - understand the substitutions - in particular if Rodriguez and Dawson was just being rested. Almost seemed like we were treating the match as a training excerise and was not bothered about progressing.
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Disappointed to head out in the fashion that we did.
I thought the young lads acquitted themselves very well - Field and Harper looked knackered throughout extra time. The lad Tulloch looks a breath of fresh air and seemed a bit more developed than Leko. I thought Rogers struggled to get to grips with the game and missed a good opportunity.
I thought the first half was relatively even - the second half was OK going forwards but struggled defensively when we moved to the three at the back.
Some of the goals we gave away was poor - I will forgive the third as we were dead on our feet and it took a horrible deflection from Field who could not get out quick enough. The first goal I want to see again but the initial error was appalling.
I do not - and still do not - understand the substitutions - in particular if Rodriguez and Dawson was just being rested. Almost seemed like we were treating the match as a training excerise and was not bothered about progressing.
I don't know what our plan was last night at all, none of it makes any sense from the original team selection, to substitutions, to change of shape to taking off a player we had brought on. It just looks a mess. It's absolutely obvious that despite what Darren Moore says we really didn't care less whether we went through or nor not. Even so it was still strange, no Leko, no Edwards .....??????
At least Field and Harper both looked comfortable on the same stage as Premier League opponents, that's a positive. Tulloch and Rogers it was clear to see are nowhere near that level yet but the experience will do them good.
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I've been going regularly since 2001 and I have never seen one that low. Bit ironic I think when we see people moaning about not getting a Villa ticket
7,328 against Swansea in the League Cup in 2000.
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I don't know what our plan was last night at all, none of it makes any sense from the original team selection, to substitutions, to change of shape to taking off a player we had brought on. It just looks a mess. It's absolutely obvious that despite what Darren Moore says we really didn't care less whether we went through or nor not. Even so it was still strange, no Leko, no Edwards .....??????
At least Field and Harper both looked comfortable on the same stage as Premier League opponents, that's a positive. Tulloch and Rogers it was clear to see are nowhere near that level yet but the experience will do them good.
I thought the other big problem was the lack of pace in the forward areas - Hoolahan, HRK, Rodriguez, Field and Harper are far too static.
Often easy to defend against because not one of them is capable of picking up possession and carry the ball 20/30 yards.
A lot of our play was neat possession with no penetration. Having an Edwards or a Leko might have given us the option to play in behind. Or at least have someone run at their full backs!
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Question is have we ever had a lower gate for an FA Cup tie?
To think the FA Cup used to be at least as big as the league and a massive occasion with huge expectation and often bigger crowds than league games.
R.I.P. FA Cup. Such a bloody shame.
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I really liked the look of Tulloch, would be happy to have him as an option off the bench if needed.
Does he usually play on the wing for the under 23s or is he more central?
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I thought the other big problem was the lack of pace in the forward areas - Hoolahan, HRK, Rodriguez, Field and Harper are far too static.
Often easy to defend against because not one of them is capable of picking up possession and carry the ball 20/30 yards.
A lot of our play was neat possession with no penetration. Having an Edwards or a Leko might have given us the option to play in behind. Or at least have someone run at their full backs!
Hoolahan is neat and tidy but he doesn't hurt the opposition. He's not going to bully anyone, he's got no legs to get away from anyone. Playing him in the number nine role, false or otherwise is a waste of time. HRK isn't a goalscorer of any note. All night last night I was thinking where the hell is a goal going to come from? Pretty play at times, yes, but not hurting Brighton at all. Same in the Caribao Cup ties. Without Rodriguez, Gayle and Barnes we seriously struggle in forward areas.
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I've just seen the footage of the goals
How Dawson is getting criticised for their equaliser is beyond me - god only knows what Kyle Bartley is playing at. Ridiculous first touch.
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Bitter defeat to take
1. We have some really promising kids, a real advert for them on National TV
2. Bartley is horrendous
3. Brighton should have been down to 10 men and over 90 minutes that would have taken its toll
4. I wish HRK could hit a football consistently as he has excellent work rate
5. Wrong subs made but I don't totally blame DM for the loss, the ref played their part (I think there is a bit of an agenda with some Albion fans to just dislike whatever Moore does. Even if they don't know it)
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I really liked the look of Tulloch, would be happy to have him as an option off the bench if needed.
Does he usually play on the wing for the under 23s or is he more central?
Me too,looks more of a goal threat than Leko.
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Tulloch and Rogers looked like boys playing against men to me. Neither of them are anywhere near ready.
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Tulloch and Rogers looked like boys playing against men to me. Neither of them are anywhere near ready.
Rogers definitely did, but Tulloch put himself about a bit and got away one decent shot on target.
Not saying he's anywhere near a start but, if chasing a game, I'd rather him come on than the likes of Brunt, Hoolahan, Mears, Field, HRK, Leko etc as they offer little goal threat.
Bear in mind we only have 2 strikers as it is and they both start if fit.
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I've just seen the footage of the goals
How Dawson is getting criticised for their equaliser is beyond me - god only knows what Kyle Bartley is playing at. Ridiculous first touch.
I can only imagine as the ball got close to him he panicked between clearing it and taking it down, in the end he did neither and gifted them a goal.
None of that goal is Dawson's fault, if anything he tried to take the striker down to stop the chance of the goal.
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I do not - and still do not - understand the substitutions - in particular if Rodriguez and Dawson was just being rested. Almost seemed like we were treating the match as a training excerise and was not bothered about progressing.
Chuck in Livermore playing for almost dead on an hour and you have a pre programmed game plan regardless of score or match situation , absolutely no flexibility for something like HRK's injury ! None of this may have mattered though if the officials had done their job and sent the fella off for the blatant elbow! Just can't see ANY justification for not !
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Tulloch and Rogers looked like boys playing against men to me. Neither of them are anywhere near ready.
I thought Tulloch looked closer, nice to seem him get a bit longer than the 8mins or so the other day, be happy to see him as a sub option.
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Just out of interest, how many of those decrying the low turn out actually turned up?
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I went, probably parts where I felt like I didn't bother though :D
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Just because some people are making a large noise does not mean they are correct, they just follow a populist opinion that falls apart when questioned. One may even say there should be a special place in Wolverhampton for them.
See Barabbas ;D .
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Would mean one of the other loanees couldn't play. Reverting to a 3 is a disaster imo because if it happens it happens with Bartley and rules out one of the attacking loans because we would need Tosin on the bench.
The thought of this makes my blood run cold with dread.
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Disappointed to head out in the fashion that we did.
I thought the young lads acquitted themselves very well - Field and Harper looked knackered throughout extra time. The lad Tulloch looks a breath of fresh air and seemed a bit more developed than Leko. I thought Rogers struggled to get to grips with the game and missed a good opportunity.
I thought the first half was relatively even - the second half was OK going forwards but struggled defensively when we moved to the three at the back.
Some of the goals we gave away was poor - I will forgive the third as we were dead on our feet and it took a horrible deflection from Field who could not get out quick enough. The first goal I want to see again but the initial error was appalling.
I do not - and still do not - understand the substitutions - in particular if Rodriguez and Dawson was just being rested. Almost seemed like we were treating the match as a training excerise and was not bothered about progressing.
Watched him when he came on as sub for England when they played at Walsall during the summer. He looked decent in his age bracket back but lacked that little something. Last night against grown men I'd say he's come on a lot since then.
Obviously needs to get his knocks in and toughen up but he's sharp and has good movement. Nowhere near the starting eleven in the league for me but I like the look of him and would have no qualms about him coming on sparingly as a sub' when opponents begin to tire.
First time I've seen Rogers. Whatever anyone thinks of his performance last night getting real game time into his legs against experienced pros (regardless of how often they've started this season) will have done him the world of good.
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Watched him when he came on as sub for England when they played at Walsall during the summer. He looked decent in his age bracket back but lacked that little something. Last night against grown men I'd say he's come on a lot since then.
Obviously needs to get his knocks in and toughen up but he's sharp and has good movement. Nowhere near the starting eleven in the league for me but I like the look of him and would have no qualms about him coming on sparingly as a sub' when opponents begin to tire.
First time I've seen Rogers. Whatever anyone thinks of his performance last night getting real game time into his legs against experienced pros (regardless of how often they've started this season) will have done him the world of good.
Agree with this, I felt that he wasn't used to having less time on the ball than he would of in youth age groups
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Just because some people are making a large noise does not mean they are correct, they just follow a populist opinion that falls apart when questioned. One may even say there should be a special place in Wolverhampton for them.
Well that’s it then,those that dare point out mistakes must be Dingles 🙃
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7,328 against Swansea in the League Cup in 2000.
Back in the rainbow stand days then
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Well that’s it then,those that dare point out mistakes must be Dingles 🙃
Perceived mistakes you mean surely?
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Tulloch and Rogers looked like boys playing against men to me. Neither of them are anywhere near ready.
Mark my words and remember this I predict we have someone special in Rogers and he is going to be a class act. The last time I said that about a player I saw for the first time and that was Derek Statham!!
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a day on my views haven't really changed:
1) their lad should have been sent off which probably would have put the game in our favour even if we did persist with the youth.
2) wasted opportunity as over both games with a few more "senior" players we could have seen them off and be looking at a winnable home draw in 5th round.
3) subs my big dave were obviously pre meditated, however the rodriguez sub stunk as he should have given gayle 30 mins + extra time. rather than bringing dawson on.
4) harper impressed again- if we stay at this level he could well be starting every game next year thus we need to sort his contract.
5) field played well put his body on the line and generally is a tidy player and did show case some very good passing.
6) Tulloch showed flashes of something- he probably should have gone out on loan to a conference side if not league 2 this window. Rogers got into some good positions he did miss a sitter but hes 16 and will have learned a lot from playing.
7) 3 at back doesn't work stop trying it please.
8) mears and townsend look capable understudies and not much else. hoolahan is worth a spot on the bench and might well be worth a go in a free role off rodriguez and gayle.
9) bond I don't think is that far behind johnstone-probably only price tag that keeps sam johnstone ahead in pecking order.
10) us going down to 10 men killed us off as even with the team we had out I still thought we had a chance to knick it.
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Perceived mistakes you mean surely?
Yes you are correct.
Although if DM comes out every week in the aftermatch interview and says "we have to learn from the MISTAKES"
Isn't that stating that they are ?
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Nice to see Andone charged with violent conduct after his elbow on Sam Field
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-soccer-england-brh-andone/brightons-andone-charged-with-violent-conduct-idUKKCN1PW2GL?rpc=401&
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Yes you are correct.
Although if DM comes out every week in the aftermatch interview and says "we have to learn from the MISTAKES"
Isn't that stating that they are ?
He doesn't label them, it's just a generic term. So the mistakes you're talking about may not be the mistakes Moore is alluding to.
Everyone bangs on about Brunt, but its obvious Moore is happy with his performances or he wouldn't keep playing him. Similar to my thoughts on Kanu for the last 3 weeks and Livermore throughout his career.
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Referee does his job and sends off Andone and in my opinion it's a different game. Yes we made mistakes that cost us but none bigger than the ref who in my opinion chose not to see it.
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Florin Andone suspended by the FA
Three game ban, good!
Source: https://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/17420399.albion-striker-florin-andone-suspended-by-the-fa/
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Florin Andone suspended by the FA
Three game ban, good!
Source: https://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/17420399.albion-striker-florin-andone-suspended-by-the-fa/
Too late for us.
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brilliant performance by the kids let down by a senior pro, what a stupid ball to play to Dawson who would have struggled to sort it even if he had not have slipped when will these central defenders realise that they are not good enough to pass the ball around the back and just get rid especially when you are one up with 8 to go
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brilliant performance by the kids let down by a senior pro, what a stupid ball to play to Dawson who would have struggled to sort it even if he had not have slipped when will these central defenders realise that they are not good enough to pass the ball around the back and just get rid especially when you are one up with 8 to go
it wasn't a pass he literally miscontrolled it 30 feet.