Author Topic: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD  (Read 2352955 times)

0 Members and 4 Guests are viewing this topic.

Fritzl Palace

  • Senior Baggie

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 4519
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7500 on: April 24, 2018, 02:49:58 PM »
Porto were/are hardly the equivalent of Barnsley Scooby. Have you seen who was in that side when they won the CL? Roberto Carvalho, Deco and Carlos Alberto to name a few. You don't see them down at Oakdale on a weekly basis do you? Mourinho didn't get the promoted from the Portugese equivalent of the 1st division on a shoestring did he? I am not sure how you know that their financial position in 2004 but I would suggest that any side fielding the quality of players they put out were relatively affluent.

Don't get me wrong, hew did well, very well and that's what made his name.

He was slightly past his prime in 2004  ;D

skyclad99

  • Senior Baggie

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 3848
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7501 on: April 24, 2018, 03:08:22 PM »
He was slightly past his prime in 2004  ;D

LOL, yeah my bad! I had a different player in mind :)
MAGA!

Scooby Doo

  • Youth Baggie

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 945
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7502 on: April 24, 2018, 03:46:26 PM »
Porto were/are hardly the equivalent of Barnsley Scooby. Have you seen who was in that side when they won the CL? Roberto Carvalho, Deco and Carlos Alberto to name a few. You don't see them down at Oakdale on a weekly basis do you? Mourinho didn't get the promoted from the Portugese equivalent of the 1st division on a shoestring did he? I am not sure how you know that their financial position in 2004 but I would suggest that any side fielding the quality of players they put out were relatively affluent.

Don't get me wrong, hew did well, very well and that's what made his name.

Those players became the players they did under him though. None of those were the household names until Mourinho achieved what he did there. Then took the best with him to Chelsea. You cannot underestimate his influence on that Porto side, a side who were tactically outstanding.

You fail also to recognise the position Porto were in at the time he took over. He transformed that side and put their players in the global window.

It's a bit like saying Ranieri only won the league with Leicester because of the players they had.


Scooby Doo

  • Youth Baggie

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 945
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7503 on: April 24, 2018, 03:48:57 PM »
You are right, but I don't think he could replicate it now. When at Porto and his first stints here he was young, hungry, vibrant and, at times, funny.
Now he is old, tired, bitter, continually whinges about his lot and references his past glories as if he should be exalted. No humility or class or respect for today's Porto's when they beat him.

But the fact he did it when it was accused all he has done is win with money is exactly my point.

seteefeet

  • Senior Baggie

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 4114
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7504 on: April 24, 2018, 03:57:37 PM »
But the fact he did it when it was accused all he has done is win with money is exactly my point.
I was agreeing with you, sort of. The Mourinho at Porto was a different and far more likeable character than the bitter, twisted individual we see today. That's why I don't think he could take over a club in Porto's situation now and do what he did then. Could be argued therefore that it's the money that has corrupted him.
If you compare him to Ranieri, in terms of honours and trophies there is no contest but, in terms of class and humility, there is only one winner. Unfortunately these are qualities that are no longer lauded in top level football. This is one of the reasons that, deep down, I don't want Big Dave to get the job, I'd hate to see hit contaminate him.

skyclad99

  • Senior Baggie

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 3848
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7505 on: April 28, 2018, 01:42:20 PM »
Seems that mighty Liverpool are having trouble against little old Stoke who don't need the points, and they have even watered the pitch....

Actually hope its a draw to see what diaorhea Klopp comes out with.......
MAGA!

WBAinDEVON

  • Site Donator
  • WBA Manager

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 18413
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7506 on: April 28, 2018, 11:14:40 PM »
Not watched it in years motd , it's got to be the worst football program going currently , switched off
Born and Bred in Oak Road West Bromwich B71   Est in the swinging sixties

BaggieBoy04

  • Reserve Baggie

  • Offline
  • ****

  • 1799
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7507 on: April 29, 2018, 05:46:25 PM »
Not watched it in years motd , it's got to be the worst football program going currently , switched off
Please explain why you think this
Albion Pride Of The Black Country

KYA

  • WBA Coach

  • Offline
  • ******

  • 5749
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7508 on: April 29, 2018, 06:40:56 PM »
Seems that mighty Liverpool are having trouble against little old Stoke who don't need the points, and they have even watered the pitch....

Actually hope its a draw to see what diaorhea Klopp comes out with.......
Klopp's comment about us must rank as the worst comment ever by a football manager he totally ignored all the rules about the sport and playing sport, the man's an a hole.

Hull Baggie

  • Global Moderator
  • WBA Coach

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 7163
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7509 on: May 03, 2018, 12:23:46 PM »
Dexy : LiamTheBaggie : MarkW : OldburyWBA
Adder : Hull Baggie : lewisant : Political Cake : tommcneill

royhan

  • WBA Coach

  • Offline
  • ******

  • 5474
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7510 on: May 04, 2018, 11:39:04 PM »
Congratulations Chris Hughton on doing a superb job in keeping the other Albion in the top flight. It wasn’t that long ago that he was short listed to become our manager. If only....

Foster#1

  • Reserve Baggie

  • Offline
  • ****

  • 1431
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7511 on: May 05, 2018, 01:10:23 PM »
So far so good

Foster#1

  • Reserve Baggie

  • Offline
  • ****

  • 1431
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7512 on: May 05, 2018, 01:13:56 PM »
Oh dear ..1-0 stoke

Fritzl Palace

  • Senior Baggie

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 4519
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7513 on: May 05, 2018, 01:19:46 PM »
Lucky deflection...though Hennessey would have probably flapped it in anyway.

ex coseley kid

  • Senior Baggie

  • Online
  • *****

  • 3227
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7514 on: May 05, 2018, 01:22:23 PM »
Come on Palace....
Head honcho of the Electric Boogie Club, purveyors of (mostly) 70's groove music

17GD

  • Reserve Baggie

  • Offline
  • ****

  • 2222
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7515 on: May 05, 2018, 01:59:16 PM »
Stoke currently winning which means if it stays this way we are down.

royhan

  • WBA Coach

  • Offline
  • ******

  • 5474
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7516 on: May 05, 2018, 01:59:41 PM »
Wonderbar. It’s all square

costa blanca baggie

  • Senior Baggie

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 2714
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7517 on: May 05, 2018, 01:59:59 PM »
Phew!!!!
Humanity is a parade of fools, and I’m at the front of it...twirling the baton.

costa blanca baggie

  • Senior Baggie

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 2714
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7518 on: May 05, 2018, 02:03:12 PM »
Phew!!!!
Humanity is a parade of fools, and I’m at the front of it...twirling the baton.

AlbionFan

  • Site Donator
  • WBA Coach

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 5278
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7519 on: May 05, 2018, 02:06:38 PM »
1-1 Come on Palace!!
赖国传, 滚出我们的俱乐部

Beware of Speculation! = the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.

costa blanca baggie

  • Senior Baggie

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 2714
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7520 on: May 05, 2018, 02:12:08 PM »
Palace missing some very easy chances.
Humanity is a parade of fools, and I’m at the front of it...twirling the baton.

WBAinDEVON

  • Site Donator
  • WBA Manager

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 18413
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7521 on: May 05, 2018, 02:16:32 PM »
Stoke are worse than us, I just hope we finish above them
Born and Bred in Oak Road West Bromwich B71   Est in the swinging sixties

royhan

  • WBA Coach

  • Offline
  • ******

  • 5474
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7522 on: May 05, 2018, 02:17:55 PM »
Palace in front

costa blanca baggie

  • Senior Baggie

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 2714
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7523 on: May 05, 2018, 02:18:08 PM »
Nice one guys!!!😁
Humanity is a parade of fools, and I’m at the front of it...twirling the baton.

liverbaggie

  • Reserve Baggie

  • Offline
  • ****

  • 2243
Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« Reply #7524 on: May 05, 2018, 02:18:57 PM »
Stoke 1 Palace 2,  couple of mins left,get in!