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Off Topic => General Football & Sports => Topic started by: OldburyWBA on September 09, 2012, 03:17:29 PM
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Seeing as we have one for the Prem and the Championship, its time for one for League 1 and 2.
Coventry still without a win this season, just gone down 2-1 at home to Stevenage
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Yes, but who got the goal/winner for Stevenage?
MARCUS HABER! :o
2-1 Stevenage, final score...an unbelievable fixture many years ago! If honest, I'd completely forgotten Haber existed, fair play though.
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Yes, but who got the goal/winner for Stevenage?
MARCUS HABER! :o
2-1 Stevenage, final score...an unbelievable fixture many years ago! If honest, I'd completely forgotten Haber existed, fair play though.
Always felt he could be a decent player. He is really tall, strong and quick. The serious serious knee injury he picked up, whilst on loan at St. Johnstone, gave him no chance. He is still very young; a decent signing for Stevenage.
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I have a soft spot for Stevenage, they have great fans
they have done brilliantly the last few years, coming all the way from the conference.
and it wouldn't surprise me if they go up this season
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Under 9,500 at Coventry!
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Crawley down to 9 men now. Fantastic chance for Portsmouth to get their first win of the season.
Sheff United were down to 9 men yesterday and scrambled a draw against Scunthorpe.
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Within a couple of minutes Pompey take the lead.
18 year old Ashley Harris
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They're running riot.
3-0 now. Cracking free kick for the second, although plenty of controversy surrounding it.
Delighted for Appleton.
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Think Coventry are in a spot of trouble. They knocked the ball around well enough at times, but they didn't look to have much of a goal threat. Their strikers played well, but it was mostly around the area rather than inside it.
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Yeovil lost to Bournemouth at the weekend, fatigue blamed by many fans, not been the same since they played us! ;D
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19520436
Rotherham United boss Steve Evans banned by FA
Rotherham manager Steve Evans has been given a six-match stadium ban and fined £3,000 by the Football Association.
Evans was found to have used abusive and insulting words and behaviour with a reference to gender during a League Two match between his former side Crawley and Bradford City in March.
The match finished with ugly scenes as a mass brawl led to five players being sent off in the changing room.
The 49-year-old does not intend to appeal against the decision.
He said in a club statement: "I am very disappointed by the decision, however for the good of Rotherham I accept the verdict and will move on with no further comment."
Evans left Crawley for Rotherham two weeks after the incident.
The ban prohibits the Scot from attending the ground at which his side is playing at any time during a match day, starting with Saturday's home clash with Torquay.
Games Evans will miss
Saturday, 15 September - Torquay (H)
Tuesday, 18 September - Rochdale (H)
Saturday, 22 September - Barnet (A)
Saturday, 29 September - Oxford (H)
Tuesday, 2 October - Accrington (A)
Saturday, 6 October - York (A)
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Crawley down to 9 men now. Fantastic chance for Portsmouth to get their first win of the season.
Sheff United were down to 9 men yesterday and scrambled a draw against Scunthorpe.
I had a bet on sheff utd! Don't like them anymore!
Great result for Appy! While read FourFourTwo's season preview one of their fans commented that Appy was the only bright spark in a poor season. Looks like it could get better for them too....
A Middle East consortium have submitted an offer to buy Portsmouth, the club's administrators have confirmed.
Pompey have been in administration since February and remain threatened with liquidation unless a buyer can be found.
Fans' group the Portsmouth Supporters' Trust and former owner Balram Chainrai also want to take over at Fratton Park, with both parties having until the end of this week to finalise their bids.
But administrators PKF are now considering an offer from the new consortium.
A PKF spokesman told The News: "We can confirm we have had a preliminary offer from a Middle East group and we are currently seeking clarification of funding before we can take it any further."
Pompey won their first game of the season, 3-0 at Crawley on Saturday, to move out of the League One relegation zone but will be deducted 10 points by the Football League when they eventually come out of administration.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11674/8069803/Pompey-receive-a-fresh-offer
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I had a bet on sheff utd! Don't like them anymore!
Great result for Appy! While read FourFourTwo's season preview one of their fans commented that Appy was the only bright spark in a poor season. Looks like it could get better for them too....
A Middle East consortium have submitted an offer to buy Portsmouth, the club's administrators have confirmed.
Pompey have been in administration since February and remain threatened with liquidation unless a buyer can be found.
Fans' group the Portsmouth Supporters' Trust and former owner Balram Chainrai also want to take over at Fratton Park, with both parties having until the end of this week to finalise their bids.
But administrators PKF are now considering an offer from the new consortium.
A PKF spokesman told The News: "We can confirm we have had a preliminary offer from a Middle East group and we are currently seeking clarification of funding before we can take it any further."
Pompey won their first game of the season, 3-0 at Crawley on Saturday, to move out of the League One relegation zone but will be deducted 10 points by the Football League when they eventually come out of administration.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11674/8069803/Pompey-receive-a-fresh-offer
I just hope its genuine rather than like the previous owners they've had.
As for SUFC. Haha. Two of their away games this season have seen ex-Wednesday players score after receiving barracks of abuse. Clinton Morrison for Colchester & Leon Clarke for Scunthorpe. If you believe the rumours, it isn't looking very good for them financially either.
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Gary Waddock has been relieved of his duties at Wycombe - ie sacked !!
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Colchester have sacked John Ward
Adrian Durham of talksport later said something like he predicted he would be sacked when he signed Clinton Morrison. Apparently called him a bad egg. Surprise surprise, have a guess who the next caller was?
http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/drivetime/120924/clinton-morrison-rings-drive-time-181698
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Walsall are on sky sports 1 against Shrewsbury in the Black Country Shropshire Derby.
Visitors have made a good start. Currently 0-0 but Walsall are looking extremely good at the moment.
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After dominating the majority of the game, Walsall now find themselves losing 1-0.
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Mickey Mellon sacked by Fleetwood after FA Cup defeat today, bit surprising as he got them into the league and they're 7th at the moment
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Mickey Mellon sacked by Fleetwood after FA Cup defeat today, bit surprising as he got them into the league and they're 7th at the moment
Very suprised at that, he has done a great job at Fleetwood, first season in the league and they are 7th is very good going.
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Graham Westley has been sacked as manager of Preston.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21444208
In-fact, I was reading a very interesting article about him the other week in the Daily Mail. Here it is:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2269446/Graham-Westley--The-Footballers-Football-Column-It-cancerous-I-arrived-Preston-Did-turn-drunk-training-Probably--I-24-signings-clear-start-again.html
Graham Westley is in the middle of the hardest job of his career. After taking Stevenage from the Conference to League One, the former England U18 striker is now the manager of Preston North End. Tough times mean he has had to slash the wage bill, get rid of more than 30 players and face accusations from his players of him dropping them by text message. It has not been dull. Here, the 44-year-old, who knocked Newcastle and Reading out of the FA Cup during his time at Stevenage, writes his first Footballers’ Football Column. And he packs a punch...
The starting point in football management is very difficult. You’ve normally been given a job because something has gone wrong for somebody else.
When I was considering the Preston job, people I respect were asking me if I knew what I was getting myself into. They told me I was walking into a mess.
The club had been relegated and saddled with players on Championship contracts. There were no relegation clauses and the club’s revenue had been slashed. I was warned that the dressing room was a cancerous environment. I knew it was going to be difficult and it was.
The players seemed to have a view that it was me or them. They didn’t want to work to the regime I was putting in place — the work was harder, the hours were longer and that didn’t suit them.
And they thought I was trying to push players out the door. But whoever went in there would have had to do that because the club couldn’t afford the wages.
The lads saw me as the enemy. It became quite public too, with the boys releasing stories about text messages I’d allegedly sent them. There was so much going on behind the scenes.
There was some bad stuff. Did I have anyone arrive drunk for training? Probably. It was cancerous. The way they behaved was like they thought they were in the Premier League.
When I arrived, I cancelled the masseurs coming in. What did they have those for? The culture was like a health club, not a football club.
It was more about getting your legs pampered than putting your boots on and training. If you go and win at Wembley, let’s go to Champney’s for the day. But I couldn’t understand all the pampering going on.
Preston: match analysis
The lads expected it but I think you get what you earn. Manchester United have been out in Qatar but they have earned that.
I’m quite a confrontational person. If I’ve got an issue, I’ll express it. But in a big dressing room it wasn’t easy working out who the troublemakers were. But there are ways and means and you like to think your intuition gets you there in the end.
When you are under attack, what’s important is that you attack back.
Preston recent results
Getting to the end of the season and not getting relegated was a miracle. When I arrived, they’d lost nine of their last 11 games and you could see why.
They couldn’t put one foot in front of the other, there was no care in the way they were playing. It was a horrific mess and to try to put points together was desperate.
I got to the summer and told the club that I wasn’t sure exactly where the cancer lay. All we could do was clear the decks. It was like an operation. There were a lot of people who wanted me pushed out the door but I survived.
I remember losing 3-1 at home to Brentford last season. It could have been 10. As I was walking off at the end of the game, the fans had decided it was my fault.
They had decided I was not a Preston North End manager, they were hearing stories about how I was treating the players and they went for me. People wanted my blood.
In that situation, I had to respect that and realise there must be a reason they were angry. I looked at myself, thought about it and had to take it on the chin. But I was confident it was the players that were the problem.
Of our 37 players, we kept the goalkeeper, a young centre half Bailey Wright and a lad from the youth team. We sold a few but the others we just had to get rid off. I had to push them out the door.
Then we were about to play League One football and we didn’t have any players. People were asking me how the season was going to go and I didn’t have a clue.
I tried to recruit players who I thought could do a good job but I didn’t have a huge budget. We may be a big club but I couldn’t compete with clubs like Brentford and Swindon on wages.
I couldn’t get near them. It was all about signing free transfers, some youngsters, some from the non-League too.
I made 24 signings — I remembered their names but not all their birthdays — and when you bring in that many players, you’ll get some right and some wrong.
I think it was Howard Wilkinson who said ‘if I get three out of five signings right, I’ve done well’. If I got three right, I was going to end up with 15 players who were good enough and that’s not many.
We started the season well and there was point when we weren’t at all far off the play-offs. We were seven unbeaten and looking alright. Against Notts County, I lost my two full backs — Scott Laird and Keith Keane — and they were my biggest points-per-game players. I think those stats are really important.
Every manager has his dashboard of indices that he looks at and points per game is the indicator I use most.
Soon after I was without 50 per cent of my outfield players who had beaten Stevenage through injury. It was like that for four weeks and the transfer window was shut.
I was stuck playing with my squad players or playing people out of position. The harsh reality was that we got some draws but struggled to win games. So that’s where we are now.
We won 4-1 at Stevenage this season. It’s a little bit of an odd feeling going back there. It was harder the previous year when it was my team.
I couldn’t even look at their players. I was avoiding eye contact because I’d only ever worked with those lads and loved those lads and suddenly they were my opponents.
I didn’t like that feeling of having to beat my team. I’d never looked at them as enemies. This time it was easier and we drew 1-1.
Peter Ridsdale works as a consultant to the owners. I take as I find not as I hear because I’ve read things about myself which are so far from who I really am. Why would I ever judge anyone on their portrayal?
In every conversation I’ve had with Peter, I’ve felt I’m dealing with a really straightforward person. I don’t always like the answers I get from him but they are always honest. I don’t look at him in anything other than a positive way
You should learn every day. I’m sure Sir Alex Ferguson is still learning. There’s talk at the moment about David de Gea and whether Sir Alex has made a mistake.
He’s probably asking himself that because we all learn all the time. I bet the Preston fans are thinking: ‘We’ve absolutely battered that bloke but he’s still standing, still smiling, still talking’.
I remember my assistant John Dreyer speaking to Phil Parkinson about his spell at Hull. And Phil said he had complete belief in the way he went about things there but that maybe he wanted to get to his way straight away.
He said maybe it was too radical and that switched the players off. When I heard that, I wondered if we could have been less radical when we arrived.
Maybe we put our whole regime in place too quickly. Maybe with a gradual approach, we would have kept one or two players on board who we lost.
Now we just have to try to get winning again. I always just say ‘win the next, then win the one after, then the one after’. It got me promoted with Stevenage.
This weekend we drew at home to Coventry. No-one wants to finish 14th or somewhere like that in the league so we’ll just have to see where it takes us.
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Not surprised about Westley getting the sack they have been on a poor run of late.
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Two Albion youth players out on loan, Cameron Gayle (Shrewsbury) and Donervorn Daniels (Tranmere) are currently playing against each other live on Sky Sports.
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Two Albion youth players out on loan, Cameron Gayle (Shrewsbury) and Donervorn Daniels (Tranmere) are currently playing against each other live on Sky Sports.
How are they getting on?
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Tranmere down to 10 men after 5 minutes. Shrewsbury 2-0 up, with the second goal scored by a certain Mr C. Gayle of this parish with a glancing header from a corner!
Gayle, at right back, looks very tidy. Daniels at Centre Back also looks very good, considering neither of them have played more than 10 games at this level.
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Tranmere down to 10 men after 5 minutes. Shrewsbury 2-0 up, with the second goal scored by a certain Mr C. Gayle of this parish with a glancing header from a corner!
Gayle, at right back, looks very tidy. Daniels at Centre Back also looks very good, considering neither of them have played more than 10 games at this level.
Our youth players are regularly starting to make a difference to lower division sides when loaned out, this is a very promising sign to me.
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Paulo Di Canio resigned at Swindon yesterday.
Tonight, Swindon's win at Tranmere put them top of the League 1.
Can anyone remember a club being managerless while top of any division?
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Coventry now homeless after today's news.
Coventry are ready to finish the season away from the Ricoh Arena after effectively writing off their debt to the stadium's owners.
(http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11710/8582040/Coventry-set-to-leave-Ricoh-Arena-after-twist-on-eve-of-High-Court-hearing)
Wonder what's this ground in the 'West Midlands' they'll be playing at for the rest of the season?
Surely not the Hawthorns ???
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Villa Park, bound to be.
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Villa Park, bound to be.
Really, with their 'rivalry'. I notice they average around 10,000 would they be able to use Bescott?
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Villa Park, bound to be.
I would have thought it is more likely to be Blues, as they could do with the revenue.
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I would have thought it is more likely to be Blues, as they could do with the revenue.
I would agree, straight up the A45
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I would have thought it is more likely to be Blues, as they could do with the revenue.
I've not checked but I saw a tweet from a Blues fan yesterday saying their fixtures clash so I don't think its possible for it to be at Blues.
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I've not checked but I saw a tweet from a Blues fan yesterday saying their fixtures clash so I don't think its possible for it to be at Blues.
You are correct, if they do not reorganise fixture dates the only side that does not clash at some point is Vile!
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Danny Wilson has left Sheffield United. Slightly surprised why he has left still in with a chance of automatic promotion.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22101757
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It's been on the cards for a while. They haven't scored a goal at Bramall Lane in nearly two months. The last time they did was in February when they beat Colchester. Interesting that they have appointed Chris Morgan, a man who possess no managerial experience. Wilson has been working with a budget which has been cut dramatically and promotion was viewed as must this season - whilst their form has tailed, Wilson's past history of playing for Wednesday has come to the forefront which was to be expected, he wasn't a favourite when he joined.
He can, however, count himself very unlucky that they didn't get promoted last season. I think they reached 90 points which in any other season would have seen them promoted - what didn't help was that it was their arch rivals that beat them to the remaining automatic spot.
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A big club like Sheffield United needs to be in the Championship possibly could be a third season in League one wont go well, however it took the likes or Leeds and Charlton that long to get back in the Championship.
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Why do they need to be?
They are where they are because the board have been incompetent with their managerial appointments and finances over the last few years, particularly the appointment of Bryan Robson and are now struggling financially. This was the season they needed to return and it so far looks like they won't - if you believe the reports, then it's only McCabe keeping them afloat.
Personally, their fans reaction and the clubs reaction to the Ched Evans debacle makes me hope they stay in that league for as long as they possibly well can.
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I feel that they need to be in a higher league due to the fact that will crowds drop next season if they don't go up. One person who would fit that club like a glove Neil Warnock.
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Walsall winning and into a playoff place.
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Walsall winning and into a playoff place.
They have been on such a great I hope they can make the play offs.
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They have been on such a great I hope they can make the play offs.
1-1 late on, shame on Walsall.
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Bournemouth are promoted. I think mathematically as well.
Even if Brentford win tonight to take them to 81 points. Brentford and Doncaster play each other on the last day. If either team win, Bournemouth promoted. If its a draw, Bournemouth have superior goal difference.
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Glad to see Bournemouth in the Championship rather them, then Sheff Utd or Preston.
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Bournemouth have a massive budget, they've bought promotion.
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Bournemouth have a massive budget, they've bought promotion.
HA! You going to begrudge them that? 4 years ago they were sitting on -17 at the bottom of league 2. The club and they're fans have been through the mill these past few years. Eddie Howe is the best thing that has happened to that club! Remember they were also nearly promoted 2 seasons ago, when they had no budget.
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Eddie Howe has done a great job for them, I'm glad that they have gone up. Port Vale have gone up from League two today.
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Pleased to see bournemouth go up, ashame another late goal may cost them a play off place.
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how gutted must Bournmouth be! a 95th minute winner by Doncaster pips them for the title :o
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how gutted must Bournmouth be! a 95th minute winner by Doncaster pips them for the title :o
Gutted for Bournemouth? LOL...what about Brentford who missed a 90th minute penalty to go up!
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Gutted for Bournemouth? LOL...what about Brentford who missed a 90th minute penalty to go up!
didnt realise that :o
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Gutted for Bournemouth? LOL...what about Brentford who missed a 90th minute penalty to go up!
This is why we love and hate football so much....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF8dLCdgdRg
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That was one of the most ultimate devastating conclusion I have ever seen in football.
I really hope Brentford can get their selves up through the play offs, I just don't see it though after that blow.
Would hate to be that penalty taker right now.......
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Would have to be a Brentford fan today, would rather have seen them go up then Donny.
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Football she's a cruel mistress at times , you make a film with an ending like this and they'd say you were taking the urine..... :o
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That was one of the most ultimate devastating conclusion I have ever seen in football.
I really hope Brentford can get their selves up through the play offs, I just don't see it though after that blow.
Would hate to be that penalty taker right now.......
The thing is the players all squabbled over who should take it despite the gaffer (Uwe Rosler) having told them previously who the designated taker should be. The guy who took it wasn't the designated taker. Rosler wasn't a happy man about this.
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A great win for Burton last night at Bradford, could never imagine a club of there size been in Leauge one, but the likes of Stevenage, Dag and Red have been there.
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Just a reminder that from August this will be the thread to use for games involving the neighbours from Staffordshire
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Just a reminder that from August this will be the thread to use for games involving the neighbours from Staffordshire
Thanks for your reminder :P
Bye wolves :P
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They will have a Staffordshire derby next season Port Vale.
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Bradford currently beating Burton 3-1 with 20 minutes to go. Bradford have just had a simply amazing season. I didn't think they would make the play offs a few weeks ago.
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Really happy with the finalists for both the League 1 and League 2 play offs, especially with Brentford today.
Great signs of recovery not only from the last game of the season drama but also the fact another last minute goal against them today, that would have killed a lot of teams.
I hope they can get the win at Wembley and promotion for Rosler.
I like both the teams in the League 2 Final so not sure about that one.
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Nice one Bradford, a great seoson. Come on Yeovil
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Really wanted my current local team Burton to get to Wembley so not too happy with Bradford !
Want Yeovil to do it tomorrow after the smashing visit we had there at the start of the season when the local gave us a great and friendly welcome all round - even stood and applauded us on the coaches as we left post game !
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What a season Bradford have had they finished 17th last season, and this season has been such a turnaround for them Carling Cup final beating three Premiership teams, and now promotion which seemed a long way off for them a few weeks ago.
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Missed the game but well done to Bradford - they've had an excellent season.
Like AlbionBest, hoping Yeovil can do the business tomorrow. Expect Brentford to strengthen in the summer given their wealthy backer if they do not get promotion which will not only increase the competition in league one but be more of a challenge to Wolves who are also in league one next season (just reminding you) :D
Unfortunately, expecting Brentford to win 3-0.
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Just been to Wembley today following Yeovil Town! Great atmosphere in the Green and White Barmy Army, very much real football. The whole of Somerset seems to be celebrating. They had one of the smaller lge 1 budgets and crowds averaging less than 4500, so staying in the Championship will be a big ask for Yeovil Town. We really had to grind it out as Uwe Rossler's Brentford through everyhting at us in the 2nd half, but couldn't square things up. The Yeovil ethic would have seen Wo1ve5 safely securing their Championship berth for next season, but Brentford will come strong again if they can hold on to their players.
YTFC- great atmosphere in the club and fans, still talk about our match when we beat them 4-2! Marek Stech their keeper had a top game too - no dropping the ball for Shane Long!
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@Walkerpw: Michael Appleton will be Interviewed for the #sufc job tmrw. Page and Downes is the alternative which still seems most likely #twitterblades
Be interesting to see what happens there. They've already been turned down by Karl Robinson, Stuart McCall, Gareth Southgate and Graham Arnold. Don't see Appleton getting the job either meaning they'll appoint Page and Downes - if those two cannot be agreed then they will end up with Chris Morgan. It makes their decision to sack Danny Wilson towards the end of the season even more stupid.
I've seen many fans suggesting that they are the club to stop the Wolves from achieving promotion. Putting it simply, Sheffield United shall be in that division for the foreseeable future. They are running loses and the budget is being cut again with more cut backs expected in the playing squad - most notably the potential sales of their biggest assets Chris Morgan and George Long.
The sides to watch out for will be Peterborough and Bristol City - United shall flirt with the play-offs but their problems off the field shall hamper them again. They missed their chance the season before last.
For those unaware, Paul Walker is a local journalist in Sheffield.
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Michael Appleton won't be getting the Sheffield United job.
According to the local journo's up there they are close to appointing David Weir - the ex Rangers and Everton defender.
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I forgot any post for Wolves games to go here now :D
Coventry looking to ground share with Northhampton.What a sad state of affairs
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Swindon Town manager Kevin MacDonald has left the club by mutual consent after five months in charge.
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I'm really looking forward to seeing how League One pans out this season. Despite the fact that I dont want Wolves to go up Kenny Jackett is a very good manager and they do have some players that should do well at this level. Looking forward to seeing how David weir gets on with Sheffield United. Be interesting to see how Brentford get on this season after coming so close last season. I think Bristol City could make the play offs, Seam O Driscoll has done well at getting Doncaster out of this division. I expect a tough season for the likes of Coventry and Preston.
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Some would have us down has playing the Dingles next season
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Am i hearing correct Coventry City just gone into Liquidation, what does this mean exactly
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Not looking too good for them
Sky Sports News ?@SkySportsNews 1m
Coventry City Ltd go into liquidation #SSN
I would assume that Coventry City LTD are the holding company of the football club which means the football club remains but the holding company has been liquidated - least it saves the actual club going extinct.
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/live-coventry-city-fc-creditors-5430930
Liquidation would see them start the season with a -15 point penalty.
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So many clubs mess about with ownership and end up like this, shame. Better the devil you know sometimes, he may frustrate us at times but with JP at the helm we will never see these headlines about us thankfully.
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Doesn't liquidation mean shut shop.No more fixtures no more Coventry City football club
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Doesn't liquidation mean shut shop.No more fixtures no more Coventry City football club
Doesn't tend to work like that at times, Devon.
In this case it is the holding company of the football club who are being liquidated which means the actual football club and it's assets get to remain meaning they can fulfill their league fixtures. Liquidating the company will take a while and in the process the football club shall need to find a new holding company to buy their assets - it is increasingly similar to the situation Rangers found themselves in last summer.
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New co start with a 15 point deduction then
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23538416
I am sure a few of us will keep our eye out for his performances.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23538416
I am sure a few of us will keep our eye out for his performances.
If he knuckles down he could do a job for them still, I've got a feeling he wont last the season and will retire again though.
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New co start with a 15 point deduction then
Looks like its going to be a very hard season for Coventry, wouldn't wish what there fans have experienced to anyone. Tough start tomorrow at Crawley.
If Koumas can keep fit and play well for Tranmere then they still have a top quality player who can help them make the top six.
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Walsall 2-0 up v Tranmere
Coventry 2-0 down at Crawley
Dingles still 0-0 in their cup final at Preston
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On the bench for Tranmere is Jason Koumas.
Walsall currently leading 2-1.
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Great result for Walsall, 3-1 in the end.
Dingles struggled to a 0-0 at Preston.
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Fantastic start for Newport beating Accrington Stanley 4-1 Yesterday. Good wins also for Oxford at Portsmouth, a very good comeback from Rotherham at Crewe.
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Half time scores.
Oldham 0 Walsall 1
Dingles 3 Gillingham 0
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Walsall beat Oldham 1-0.
Wolves beat Gillingham 4-0.
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Great start for Walsall, hopefully they can keep this up and take that extra stride to the play offs which they narrowly missed out on last season.
Good win for Brentford as well at home to Sheffield United.
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Wolves activated the release clause in Kevin McDonald's contract - arguably Sheffield United's best player. If I remember correctly, he had his medical on friday ahead of his move to the Mol. Sheffield United supporters aren't happy and it's very likely that the money received for him shall not be reinvested given the debts they have amassed - he has a meeting with Davie Weir whose going to try and convince him that his future remains at Bramall Lane.
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Excellent goal from Romaine Sawyers today for Walsall, hope he gets a run to see if he can make it
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Excellent goal from Romaine Sawyers today for Walsall, hope he gets a run to see if he can make it
Great goal, Interesting hairstyle too!! ;D
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I could have hair like that if I wanted :D
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Walsall have made an excellent start to this season seven points from nine. Dean Smith has done an excellent job at Walsall since he has been there. Jason Koumas came on for twenty minute Yesterday for Tranmere at Crewe. Despite all the problems at Coventry they had made a pretty good start seems to be a lot of goals in there game so far.
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80 seconds...that's how long it took for the first "we hate Albion" do the rounds. Obsessed...
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GET IN!!!!
Been coming for a long time. Wolves could have been 3-0 up after 15 minutes but have looked very dodgy since.
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B******S
Leigh Griffith's penalty for handball, low and hard close to centre of goal on keepers left.
2-1 Dingles
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Got out of jail with that penalty, Crawley deserved a point
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The standard at that level now looks very very poor indeed. If they don't walk that league they have major problems.
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Crawley deserved something from that, very harsh penalty given against them. Thought they played some very good stuff overall.
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A very dodgy penalty given to Wolves last night, Crawley played really well. Wolves go to Port Vale next. Carlisle also picked up there first point of the season with a 1-1 at Colchester.
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A very dodgy penalty given to Wolves last night, Crawley played really well. Wolves go to Port Vale next. Carlisle also picked up there first point of the season with a 1-1 at Colchester.
Hughesie :D
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I only saw the last 20 minutes or so of the game on Sky last night but I thought Crawley played some decent football but were lacking anything up front, half decent striker to hold the ball up and they could have won.
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Came across an article on Portsmouth earlier which is just frightening to be honest.
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/player-by-player-breakdown-of-what-pompey-owe-1-5468027
DAVID NUGENT
Total outstanding: £143,250
Payable by: 40 monthly payments of £3,581.25.
DAVID JAMES
£145,921.90 – 40 months of £3,648.05.
KANU
£155,314.50 – three lump-sum payments of £51,771.50 in March 2014, 2015 and 2016.
BENJANI
£214,572.73 – 4O months of £5,364.32.
HAYDEN MULLINS
£632,281.32 – 28 monthly payments of £21,867.19. One lump-sum payment of £20,000 in January 2016.
AARON MOKOENA
£288,844.80 – 40 months of £7,225.92.
DAVID NORRIS
£182,729.92 – 40 months of £4,568.26.
ARUNA DINDANE
£176,245.03 – 40 months of £4,406.13.
LUKE VARNEY
£153,818 – 40 months of £3,845.
ERIK HUSEKLEPP
£40,000 – lump-sum payment of £20,000 in January 2014 and January 2015.
HASSAN YEBDA
£264,491.44 – 40 months of £6,612.29.
STEPHEN HENDERSON
£42,935.86 – 40 month of 1,073.40.
GREG HALFORD
£162,802.76 – 40 months of £4,070.07.
RICARDO ROCHA
£165,136.61 – 40 months of £4,128.40.
JAMIE ASHDOWN
£78,731.92 – 40 months of £1,968.30.
JASON PEARCE
£29,162.51 – 40 months of £729.06.
HERMANN HREIDARSSON
£42,935.86 – 40 months of £1,073.40.
KELVIN ETUHU
£3,000 – one payment made on Aug 30, 2013.
JOEL WARD
£20,206.57 – 40 months of £505.16.
STEVE FINNAN
£88,312.50 – 40 months of £2,207.81.
MICHAEL BROWN
£472,375 – lump-sum payment of £200,000 on Aug 30, 2013. 40 months of £6,809.38.
RICHARD HUGHES
£372,484.42 – lump-sum payment of £200,000 on Aug 30, 2013. 40 months of £4,312.11.
LIAM LAWRENCE
£616,666.54 – lump-sum payment of £200,000 on Aug 30, 2013. 40 months of £10,416.67.
DAVE KITSON
£608,333.36 – lump-sum payment of £150,000 on Aug 30, 2013. 40 months of £11,458.33.
TAL BEN HAIM
£1,633,333.36 – lump-sum payments of £650,000 on Aug 30, 2013 and £150,000 on Aug 31, 2014. 40 months of £20,833.33.
*Kanu payment will be split in accordance with an Order of Finance Disciplinary Committee.
How can a club ever have a way of surviving when they're paying debts like those? More worryingly is the amount of bang average players which are going to pocket an extortionate payment. It also show the utterly ridiculous costs to hire footballers - way, way, way beyond what clubs can afford to pay. If football continues to haemorrhage money out of the game into the pockets of players and agents then clubs won't survive.
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They weren't concerned with those numbers when they were winning at Wembley and swanning around Milan in the UEFA Cup. I hope they go bust.
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And that ladies and gentlemen is what Harry Redknapp can do for your business.
I'm fed up of clubs being bailed out , first one ....yes, second one....maybe , third no bloody way.
They spend beyond their means and don't care, clubs well run like ours don't get any benefit ?
Let them go.
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The second best side in Staffordshire host the second best side in the Black Country tonight :D
Come on the Saddlers!
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The second best side in Staffordshire host the second best side in the Black Country tonight :D
That makes such good reading!
Well put my friend.
After all of their vitriol regarding 'little old Walsall' over the years. - especially last season - it would be amazing for that to well and truly bite them on the backside tonight!
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Wolves 0 Walsall 1 ;D
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Wolves 0 Walsall 1 ;D
Lets hope it stays like that.
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Both Chambers brothers playing too :D
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Full time - Wolves 0 Walsall 1
Wolves booed off.
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Both Chambers brothers playing too :D
Plus Mantom and Downing with Sawyers coming off the bench :D
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Well done the Super Saddlers!!! Five ex Albion players in the side tonight!! ;D ;D
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Well done the Super Saddlers!!! Five ex Albion players in the side tonight!! ;D ;D
Did some one mention 5
I thought walsall got. 1
:D :D :D :D :D
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Leyton Orient seven out of seven for them now going on a great run. I thought Notts County would have had a better start to the season than just one point from seven.
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Another local game for Wolves today at Shrewsbury. Come on the Shrews. Leyton Orient already five points clear at the top of the table.
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Interesting game on Sky tonight, Brentford vs Leyton Orient.
Brentford, play off runners up last year.
Orient, 7 wins from 7 so far.
Had Brentford to win the league so they need to get a move on and get their season really going, although you could say its a win win, as if Orient get the points, they extend their gap between them and Wolves. ;D
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Walsall are playing on Sky Sports 1 now against Peterborough.
Our academy products Sam Mantom, Paul Downing and Romaine Sawyers alongside the Chambers.
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Sawyers is a weird player, having a nightmare game I thought, but then scored!! but I noticed he always wants the ball
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I thought they played some very good stuff tonight - given the budget they have Dean Smith is doing a terrific job - no doubt the media will continue to overhype someone like Karl Robinson who consistently fails in that division and ignore someone who is actually succeeding on what I would imagine is half the budget.. Brilliant to see our academy products making a successful career for themselves - hopefully their form continues.
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I agree Liam. Dean Smith has done a very good job and its great to see some of our younger guys playing well in a very competitive division, against some very big clubs this season. For Walsall to already win at Wolves and now Peterborough at home shows that they do have it in them to make the top six.
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I agree Liam. Dean Smith has done a very good job and its great to see some of our younger guys playing well in a very competitive division, against some very big clubs this season. For Walsall to already win at Wolves and now Peterborough at home shows that they do have it in them to make the top six.
imagine Walsall win the league , cov get second automatic and wolves finish third on goal difference, then lose to Bradford in the play off final. :D
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Hope we were watching...............tactically spot on from Walsall in how to play against 3-5-2!!
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I watched one of the best games I have seen this season so far on Sunday, between Bradford and Coventry. Plenty of chances, goals and talking points. However Kevin Friend who is a Premiership referee had a real poor game, missed some one or two nailed on pens. Also over 14,000 in attendance.
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imagine Walsall win the league , cov get second automatic and wolves finish third on goal difference, then lose to Bradford in the play off final. :D
Bradford? beating a big club from the Midlands? don't be saft ;)
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Brian Laws sacked as Scunthorpe United boss. That was a bit harsh I felt, yes they did lose to local rivals Grimisby at home the other night. They are only a couple of points of the play offs and lost only four games so far this season. Very poor from Scunny.
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Just checked the League 2 table and there is only 9 points seperating Oxford who are top and Cheltenham who are 17th :o
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wolves 1 up at the mol against tranmere, jees this is depressing seeing them win pretty much EVERY week and comfortably in the promotion spots, albeit league one!
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They were expected to win the league and I expect them to kick on and put teams to the sword.
The challenge for them shall be getting out the Championship.
Not getting promotion this season would have been catastrophic for them.
Don't get depressed, just look at the league we're in and some of the players we have the pleasure of seeing. That should raise everybodys spirits.
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They were expected to win the league and I expect them to kick on and put teams to the sword.
The challenge for them shall be getting out the Championship.
Not getting promotion this season would have been catastrophic for them.
Don't get depressed, just look at the league we're in and some of the players we have the pleasure of seeing. That should raise everybodys spirits.
They managed it last season Liam ;D
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They should have kept Saunders, he'd have got them out that league no problem 8)
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They managed it last season Liam ;D
Fingers crossed that they repeat that elusive achievement :D
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Crawley Town have named John Gregory as their new manager. Also Bristol City are expected to announce Steve Cotterill as their new manager too. Out of those two appointments I think Bristol City fans would be probably be a bit more happier with their appointment.
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Something to cheer us up tonight Wolves lost 2-0 at home to MK Dons tonight. A last minute goal for Bradford as they drew 1-1 with Leyton Orient, also a last minute goal fro Brentford too.
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Pleased Brentford and Scunthorpe have picked up as i had both of them to win their leagues quite optimistically. Last minute equaliser against Scunny was a bit of a blow though, well 97th minute!!
Ashame that not many took advantage of Wolves shock defeat, as MK Dons have been pretty poor this year.
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No win in three for Wolves they were 3-1 down at one point today today. Shame that Leyton Orient lost today. However Posh and Brentford won.
Aidy Boothroyd has been sacked by Northampton he was their for just over two years.
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Anyone know what happened in the Rotherham v Coventry game! According to Skysports Score Centre 103 minutes were played :o
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Shrewsbury having a shocker of a season. 6 straight home defeats! On the other hand, wolves have a very easy run coming up :-X
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Good to see Brentford and Orient winning again keeps them in the automatic promotion places.
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Jason Koumas scored for Tranmere, first goal since April 2011
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Leyton Orient winning 2-0 at home to Stevenage they will go back to second on goal difference. Stevenage look like their going down this season.
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In the big game in League one its Leyton Orient 0 Brentford 1. Brentford currently level on points with Wolves.
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Did i hear correctly, that one direction geezer has just purchased Doncaster.Come a board liam
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Did i hear correctly, that one direction geezer has just purchased Doncaster.Come a board liam
Well stop buying his cd's then ;D
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Well Doncaster are only going in one direction now. It will all end in tears.
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Appleton gets a job. Oxford
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I know he's highly rated but I'm not sure what Appleton has done to keep getting these jobs.
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I know he's highly rated but I'm not sure what Appleton has done to keep getting these jobs.
Important job for him this. Has to re-build his career before he falls on the football scrap heap.
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Walsall are apparently talking to Ishmael Miller and Rob Earnshaw, already got Mantom and the chambers, definitely going to a couple of their games this season.
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Walsall are apparently talking to Ishmael Miller and Rob Earnshaw, already got Mantom and the chambers, definitely going to a couple of their games this season.
Real shame about Miller if he hadn't of got that injury he would have gone on to much better things. Would be a very good singing for Walsall though.
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I know he's highly rated but I'm not sure what Appleton has done to keep getting these jobs.
Good luck to Michael Appleton at Oxford, though I suspect it's probably last chance saloon in terms of holding down a Head Coach / Managerial position (rather than an Assistant or general Coaching staff role).
I'm still bemused as to why on earth he took on the Portsmouth job a few years ago, when they were clearly in total meltdown, and appeared virtually unmanageable?
Really strange.
He did a good job at Albion with the younger players and a shame he'll always be remembered for the second half of the West Ham match debacle, in his one game in control of the first team, when we let go a 3-0 half time lead, but since leaving Albion he does appear to have made some bizarre club moves.
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Ruben Reid looks hot for Plymouth, go get him ;)
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Pleased that Oxford won Yesterday, he is just starting to get a few good results with them. Reid is on great form could be the catalyst for Plymouth going up this season.
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Jose Baxter suspended by Sheffield United for failing a drugs test:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32770268
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Preston promoted from League 1 to the Championship. During the game this happened. What a despicable woman. Watch the video.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3096325/Female-football-fan-causes-outrage-grabs-play-hero-s-shirt-small-boy-crowd-appears-online-sale-1-500.html#v-4255362799001 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3096325/Female-football-fan-causes-outrage-grabs-play-hero-s-shirt-small-boy-crowd-appears-online-sale-1-500.html#v-4255362799001)
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Preston promoted from League 1 to the Championship. During the game this happened. What a despicable woman. Watch the video.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3096325/Female-football-fan-causes-outrage-grabs-play-hero-s-shirt-small-boy-crowd-appears-online-sale-1-500.html#v-4255362799001 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3096325/Female-football-fan-causes-outrage-grabs-play-hero-s-shirt-small-boy-crowd-appears-online-sale-1-500.html#v-4255362799001)
She does seem a horrid women, but it doesn't seem to me like the young lad Ted caught it first either. Looks to me like its one other group of lads in Blue are first to get their hands to it.
As a side note, I know he is a child and you cant change who does get it, but if I was Beckford, I would have wanted a Preston fan to have got it, rather than someone who was their to watch his brother.
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Big shame especially when you saw that man city fan burst into tears when zaboleta gave her hes shirt a couple weeks back, Poor showing from the woman there im a firm believing in no amount of money can repay acts like that enjoy your 1500 im sure you will feel no guilt bitter old witch.
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Glad Preston finally broke their play off hoodoo - a cracking club
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Walsall 1 Oldham 0 - Romaine Sawyers
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Luke Daniels sent off for Scunthorpe at Burton. 2-0 to Burton
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Coventry beat Wigan 2-0. Good start for Tony Mowbray.
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Coventry beat Wigan 2-0. Good start for Tony Mowbray.
Good team goals to.
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Cov winning again good to see under Mowbray.
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Cov winning again good to see under Mowbray.
Now drawing 2-2.
Marcus Haber for Crewe, remember him?!
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Walsall win again.
Two wins in three. Still unbeaten.
Doing a good job there Dean Smith - doesn't get the plaudits he deserves.
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Coventry top of the league. I bet their fans are loving life under Mowbray at the moment.
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Coventry top of the league. I bet their fans are loving life under Mowbray at the moment.
Backed them to finish in the top 6, Mowbray is a brilliant manager for that level
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I went along to watch Coventry tonight, the second game that I've got to this season, and I was impressed again. I love how Mowbray isn't afraid to take risks: he knows he is playing against a side looking for the draw so tells his wingers to stay wide and create space. He does seem to be more interested in the defensive shape of his team more than he was at our place but having said that, they did still concede two goals, classic Mowbray I guess you could say. Please to see him do well nonetheless. By the way, the young boy Maddison is a talent for Coventry.
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I went along to watch Coventry tonight, the second game that I've got to this season, and I was impressed again. I love how Mowbray isn't afraid to take risks: he knows he is playing against a side looking for the draw so tells his wingers to stay wide and create space. He does seem to be more interested in the defensive shape of his team more than he was at our place but having said that, they did still concede two goals, classic Mowbray I guess you could say. Please to see him do well nonetheless. By the way, the young boy Maddison is a talent for Coventry.
The failure of Mowbray's methods in the Premier League hit him very hard and despite having great success with Hibs, he didn't back himself to play the same way up at Celtic, or back in England with Boro, this will probably haunt him for a long time as they were HIS clubs. It's taken him some time away from the game to re-focus and go back to what brought him to the dance. Viva Cov. Back to back promotions for me.
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The failure of Mowbray's methods in the Premier League hit him very hard and despite having great success with Hibs, he didn't back himself to play the same way up at Celtic, or back in England with Boro, this will probably haunt him for a long time as they were HIS clubs. It's taken him some time away from the game to re-focus and go back to what brought him to the dance. Viva Cov. Back to back promotions for me.
Yes true, I saw his Boro side a couple of times away from home at Forest and they were quite negative, not the Mowbray that I knew and loved. Glad to see him back doing what he does best. Also, Marcus Haber scored for Crewe tonight, he's a lower league 1/league 2 player for sure. Never good enough for us, not even for our "underbelly".
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We have a Prem & Champ so might as well have a league 1..
Gillingham top.
Walsall 2nd after 7 games. :o
Coventry 4th.
Hopefully the Saddlers carry on there form!!
Oldham, P'boro & Doncaster have sacked managers already. :-X
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Got a thread for every English league now then...
Portsmouth 2nd at the moment, be good if they managed a promotion considering the times they've been through in recent years.
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We've had a joint League 1 and League 2 thread since 2012. Was only on page two of this forum ;)
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Does anyone know the reason why there is four relegated from league one and four promoted from league two? Just seems a bit odd considering the Premier League and Championship only 3 up 3 down.
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Does anyone know the reason why there is four relegated from league one and four promoted from league two? Just seems a bit odd considering the Premier League and Championship only 3 up 3 down.
I not sure but I think it stems from the old league structure of two top leagues having 22 teams and the bottom two having 24.
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What happened to Coventry? They were doing well but looks like Mowbray is struggling at League 1 level now.
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Got to say I'm really enjoying this Walsall side on TV. Hope they get promoted. Be lots of Midlands teams in the Championship next season
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They're superb to watch. That first 20 minutes was just none-stop attacking football. Few ex-Albion players involved too - Downing volleyed home from a corner.
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Unlikely but Walsall could still be promoted automatically. Shame their home form has been a bit suspect as they are the best away side in the league.
A few young ex-Albion players there. Mantom, Sawyers and Downing. Downing and Sawyers scored today.
Would be good for us as we could utilise our geographic link to get our better youngsters Championship experience.
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Finished 3-1 in the end. Sawyers scored a very good goal. Fleetwood scored a late one which puts a slight dent in their automatic hopes. I cannot see Burton Albion losing at Doncaster next week. I don't see Walsall being thick-skinned enough to go up through the play-offs unfortunately. I'll predict Millwall will join Burton Albion and Wigan.
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What happened to Coventry? They were doing well but looks like Mowbray is struggling at League 1 level now.
I think I heard they'd had some injuries, and the pitch is being cut up from the rugby played there, so they were struggling to maintain the passing game. I haven't heard anything about him potentially being sacked though.
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Walsall winning. Courtesy of former Albion man Paul Downing.
Burton still drawing.
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Walsall 3-0 up :o
Just need Doncaster to do them a favour.
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Half time
Port Vale 0 - 3 Walsall
Doncaster 0 - 0 Burton Albion
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Doncaster down to 10 men as they have used all 3 subs and a player has had to go off injured.
Not good for Walsall.
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Walsall winning 4-0.
Just need 10 man Doncaster to nick a goal from somewhere.
Edit: Make that 5-0
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Doncaster have another man injured and are going down to 9 men for the last 10mins.
Would take a miracle now.
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Full time
Doncaster 0 - 0 Burton 0
Port Vale 0 - 5 Walsall
Walsall so close but will have to do it through the play offs.
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walsall will not beat Barnsley
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Hasn't been mentioned on here yet from what I can see
Congratulations to Michael Appleton who was promoted with Oxford on Sunday.
About time he found his feet and settled somewhere after taking three poisoned chalices in a row.
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Hasn't been mentioned on here yet from what I can see
Congratulations to Michael Appleton who was promoted with Oxford on Sunday.
About time he found his feet and settled somewhere after taking three poisoned chalices in a row.
My Cousin's team! Glad to see App's have a bit of success :D
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Brentford on verge of signing romaine sawyers
Good move for the lad
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Tall order for Walsall tonight but good luck to them
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need an early goal , hope its a sell out tonight get the fans behind them .
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I notice its live on sky tonight, should be a cracking game and wouldn't rule the saddlers out. how good does this look.
seals v Walsall
dingles v Walsall
best of luck Walsall.
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Walsall 1 down
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Walsall 1 down
Make that 2-0 down
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They've been so poor in these two matches.
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Walsall lost 3-1 ( 6-1 on aggregate )
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Oh well, 'saddled' with another season in League One.
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quite possibly the worst of all play off teams, they are out of their league
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Wimbledon - great news!
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AFC Wimbledon and the MK Dons franchise in the same division next season :)
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whos manager at Sheff Utd, 0-3 down already
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whos manager at Sheff Utd, 0-3 down already
Former player Chris Wilder, Simon Cox got the 3rd.
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Match abandoned at Swindon cause of rain. In Bloody August.
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I see that Tim "Big Club" Sherwood has just been appointed Director of Football at the mighty Swindon Town. ;D
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I see that Tim "Big Club" Sherwood has just been appointed Director of Football at the mighty Swindon Town. ;D
Still way out of his depth with that role.........
I can see it now, the club doesn't improve and the head coach gets the 'Spanish archer' - enter Timbo to make matters worse.......
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Still way out of his depth with that role.........
I can see it now, the club doesn't improve and the head coach gets the 'Spanish archer' - enter Timbo to make matters worse.......
had to google "spanish archer". Very clever, never heard it before.
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Come on Exeter City thats i all i care about in the lowers
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Milwall being kicked out of their home i hear
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Sheridan back to Oldham who have just sacked?Nolan to Notts county who sacked Sheridan
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For all you worried baggies fans Dave Jones has taken over at Hartlepool Phew we dodged a bullet there. 8)
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For all you worried baggies fans Dave Jones has taken over at Hartlepool Phew we dodged a bullet there. 8)
I remember the rumours in 2014, still gives me nightmares. :-X
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i would have taken him over Irvine though, mind you still prefer Pepe
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Big shame if the Leyton Orient winding up order takes place, this could mean points deduction and probably relegation, dodgy Italian owners who haven't paid taxes forcing the club to play the kids with a £10m debt
Got one of our greatest ever players from Orient when we signed Cunningham, anyone seen the young winger/striker Gavin Massey he looks a prospect.
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Coventry relegated from the league 1
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Looking at Coventry now it is hard to imagine that they enjoyed Premier League football as recently as 2001 and they had 34 years in the top flight before that relegation. It goes to show that nothing should ever be taken for granted in football.
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It's been a long slow decline for Coventry accelerated by an ownership that don't seem to want the best for the club they've bought! Their supporters have had a miserable time and ,I think, deserve credit for their sustained campaign over seasons, highlighting what has been happening there. I hope that they can stabilise next season otherwise Cov will become a rugby city until Wasps decide to relocate again.
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Looking at Coventry now it is hard to imagine that they enjoyed Premier League football as recently as 2001 and they had 34 years in the top flight before that relegation. It goes to show that nothing should ever be taken for granted in football.
Absolutely Stan.
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Interesting that Pompey are starting their way 'back' - could get promoted Monday at Notts County.
Might pop over to see that one with over 4,500 Portsmouth travelling and County showing some great form under Nolan.
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Did used to enjoy the Pompey away day, unless it was raining..
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Did used to enjoy the Pompey away day, unless it was raining..
Always quite liked Pompey until they bought an FA cup at our expense. >:(
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Sure I've read that Coventry haven't finished in the top 6 in the league they have been competing in for nearly 30 years!! That's madness I think
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Blades go up from League One as champions. I hope we never, ever have to play them again.
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Sure I've read that Coventry haven't finished in the top 6 in the league they have been competing in for nearly 30 years!! That's madness I think
Just looked it up. 1969/70 6th in Division One - after that it's been mid table mediocrity with the odd 8th finish or relegation.
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Just looked it up. 1969/70 6th in Division One - after that it's been mid table mediocrity with the odd 8th finish or relegation.
Sounds a bit like someone else to be honest..
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Sounds a bit like someone else to be honest..
Who?
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Leyton Orient game finished 2 hours late with the last 8 minutes played behind closed doors:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39676226
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Leyton Orient game finished 2 hours late with the last 8 minutes played behind closed doors:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39676226 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39676226)
Good, it's a disgrace what has happened to Orient since the Olympic Games.
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What a great game the fixture computer had thrown up. Fleetwood V Port Vale a potential promotion for one club and relegation for the other come the end of the game.
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Bolton promoted in the end and Vale relegated by only drawing with Fleetwood. Must have been an awful atmosphere at the final whistle at that game.
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Enjoyed the Newport game at 'sold out' Rodney Parade yesterday, the great escape - were in the relegation places until an 89th minute winner, great scenes! Pity it was Hartlepool that went down, I could think of a few teams it rather was!
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29 years ago today.
The fire which devastated a club.
Remember all those who lost their lives and their loved ones.
http://www.bradfordcityfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/11th-may-1985-3713012.aspx
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Horrific event & a terrible tragedy.
I had to search a fair bit to find mention on news sites.
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29 years ago today.
The fire which devastated a club.
Remember all those who lost their lives and their loved ones.
http://www.bradfordcityfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/11th-may-1985-3713012.aspx
A very sad and dark day for football, it was the same day a 14yr old Blues fan was crushed to death after Leeds fans caused a wall to fall down.
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great new owner for pompy
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Blackburn in the relegation zone. Not a good start for Mowbray, struggling in League 1 now.
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The Vile could very well feature on this thread next season :-X .
SOTV 8) .
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The Vile could very well feature on this thread next season :-X .
SOTV 8) .
Oh I wish that would become true. SOTV.
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The Vile could very well feature on this thread next season :-X .
SOTV 8) .
Stop it now, you'll get me all over-excited.
Dan, I would buy you a pint (probably several) if that prediction came true. Anyway I am Reading's biggest fan tomorrow night ;D ;D ;D
SOTV
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League 1
Wigan and Blackburn Promoted to the Championship
Bury Relegated to League 2
League 2
Accrington and Luton Promoted to League 1
Chesterfield Relegated to the National League (after being an EFL team for 97 years prior)
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Blackburn in the relegation zone. Not a good start for Mowbray, struggling in League 1 now.
He who laughs last etc, hasn't seemed to struggle too much ;D :D
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Walsall could be dropping into League 2 the way they're playing. Dean Keates has gone in as manager, but hasn't been able to turn their form around.
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Walsall could be dropping into League 2 the way they're playing. Dean Keates has gone in as manager, but hasn't been able to turn their form around.
They have a massive game with Northampton this weekend. Win that and I think they may be alright, lose it and I think they are gone.
Their game in hand is away to Bradford where they usually get dicked and the final game is away at Fleetwood where I wouldn't fancy them to get a result
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They have a massive game with Northampton this weekend. Win that and I think they may be alright, lose it and I think they are gone.
Their game in hand is away to Bradford where they usually get dicked and the final game is away at Fleetwood where I wouldn't fancy them to get a result
Result which might cost them is the Wimbledon game the other week - was winning 2-0 and managed to lose 3-2 !
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MK Dons relegated and Wimbledon look like staying up just about. Great news.
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MK Dons relegated and Wimbledon look like staying up just about. Great news.
Terrific. Hope Franchise FC end up in non-league.
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Hope Scunthorpe get promoted from League 1..another ground near me! Rotherham would do though if Scunny fail!
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Shame for Plymouth just missing out on the PO's!!
Done well considering its their 1st season after promotion from L2
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Shrewsbury or Rotherham for me as it will be a new ground
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Shrewsbury win there was a nice little earner for me. Shocking match though which included two of the worst, most limited big man strikers I can remember seeing. Will watch these play off games with interest. Hopefully Shrewsbury go up they were miles ahead of the other 3 teams on points.
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Exeter in the league 2 play offs..
0-0 on sky away at Lincoln
Both of our loan players on the bench.
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Barring a spectacular collapse in the last 25 mins, it looks as if Shrewsbury will be heading into the League 1 Play Off Final.
Wouldn't mind that as an away day next season ;D
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League 1:
Play Off Final
Rotherham v Shrewsbury
League 2:
Play off Final
Exeter v Notts County or Coventry
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Boateng had an excellent game for Exeter last night. come on the Grecians. go up and i will purchase a season ticket from you for 90 quid
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off to Wembley on Monday to cheer on the Grecians. Coventry expected to turn out in numbers. will most likely remind me of when we out numbered Port Vale
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im going as well devon,my daughters boyfriend is from exmouth and supports exeter even though he has enjoyed coming up the albion with us,has got tickets for us for wembley and looking forward to it as ive never been.need to keep my albion tattoos covered lol
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im going as well devon,my daughters boyfriend is from exmouth and supports exeter even though he has enjoyed coming up the albion with us,has got tickets for us for wembley and looking forward to it as ive never been.need to keep my albion tattoos covered lol
whats his name, i might know him. i shall be wearing something albion and exeter, always do when i go st james park. not a fan of red but i put up with it
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off to Wembley on Monday to cheer on the Grecians. Coventry expected to turn out in numbers. will most likely remind me of when we out numbered Port Vale
I'm from Coventry, excitement building in the city with 34,500 tickets sold at the minute. Not quite as many as they sold for the JPT final last season, think over 41,000 went.
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I'm from Coventry, excitement building in the city with 34,500 tickets sold at the minute. Not quite as many as they sold for the JPT final last season, think over 41,000 went.
probably only be about 10k exeter fans
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I'm from Coventry, excitement building in the city with 34,500 tickets sold at the minute. Not quite as many as they sold for the JPT final last season, think over 41,000 went.
There is a big festival on in Cov this weekend for the BBC that might be having an affect on the numbers.
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devon his name is alex trevena
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Good luck to Shrewsbury in today's play-off final, it would be nice to see them back at Championship level again.
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Rotherham miss penalty in first 10 mins and are totally dominant so far.
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1 nil Rotherham.
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As a young boy I used to play an FA Cup game with my brother. We would right down the names of the teams of the day on a scrap of paper and put them in a bowl and make the cup draw.
We would take it in turns to take a team from the bowl and write that teams name down against our name on a piece of paper, they would be our teams throughout the competition.
When the draw was completed, we would role a dice for our team and that was there score. Obviously, the losing team was eliminated and the winners went into the draw for the next round leading to the Cup Final.
The first team I won the FA Cup with was Rotherham and I’ve had a soft spot for them ever since.
So, I hope they are successful at Wembley today, without my loaded dice :D
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Missed most of the 2nd half.
Seems to be a much more even game.
1 all going into extra time.
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Henderson with a key save at the end. I’d welcome him as our future keeper to learn from and take over from in due course, Ben
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Henderson with a key save at the end. I’d welcome him as our future keeper to learn from and take over from in due course, Ben
Agreed, he looks to have a good all round game, reflex saves, comes off his line, talks to and marshals his defence.
I think the commentator said he was on lone to Shrewsbury from Man United
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2-1 Rotherham, yeeeeeeeeeees!
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Rotherham promoted. 2-1
Feel for the Shrews, who had a great season and finished 8 points above Rotherham
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Shame that as Shrews would have made for a 3rd proper local derby (of sorts)
We've still got the blue noses, seals, rams, forest, stoke, 2 x sheffield, rotherham and reading as fairly localish and fairly easy to get to sensibly games to look forward to
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Nice to see the Coventry fans giving Big Cyrille a round of applause in the ninth minute. Hope they go up.
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Great finish by Edwards in the play off final
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In my football manager save, Coventry is a regular top 7 PL club again in the year 2032
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the second longest serving manager after Wenger, Paul Tisdale leaves Exeter City
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Sunderland down 1-0 at home to Charlton after 10 mins.
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League 2 Cheltenham Town have sacked their manager.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11744/11478795/gary-johnson-sacked-by-cheltenham-town-after-poor-start
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Reported Albion target Ryan Woods only on the bench for Brentford against Villa tonight
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Albion cast offs Stoke losing 0-2 to Wigan. Oh dear...
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Albion cast offs Stoke losing 0-2 to Wigan. Oh dear...
Both relegated in August then ;D
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over 40.000 at Sunderlands game today. some going for a league 1 match.
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Portsmouth have beaten Sunderland 5-4 on pens to win the Checkatrade Trophy; drew 2-2 after playing extra time.
Seems they've got themselves back on track after their wobbles in Jan/Feb
85,000 in attendance too by the way.
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Lincoln City have confirmed promotion from League 2 despite being pegged back 1-1 by Cheltenham, thanks to a loss by MK Dons and Mansfield being held to a draw.
They only require one more victory (or a weird set of results next week) to be crowned League 2 champions
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I think the degenerate now in charge of Fleetwood, joey Barton has assaulted the Barnsley manager in the tunnel at today's game.
It's all over the BBC TV news channel.
Pure scum.
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I think the degenerate now in charge of Fleetwood, joey Barton has assaulted the Barnsley manager in the tunnel at today's game.
It's all over the BBC TV news channel.
Pure scum.
Two police officers prevented him leaving the ground by standing in front of his car as he attempted to drive away. No sure if he was arrested.
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I think the degenerate now in charge of Fleetwood, joey Barton has assaulted the Barnsley manager in the tunnel at today's game.
It's all over the BBC TV news channel.
Pure scum.
Yep he's vermin. The type of person society needs rid off. Disgusting human being.
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Lincoln City have confirmed promotion from League 2 despite being pegged back 1-1 by Cheltenham, thanks to a loss by MK Dons and Mansfield being held to a draw.
They only require one more victory (or a weird set of results next week) to be crowned League 2 champions
Have you seen Danny Cowley's managerial record?
Got Concord Rangers 3 promotions up non league. Ge then nearly got tiny Braintree Town into the football league, before getting Lincoln 2 promotions from conference to league 1.
How long before a bigger club realises?
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Two police officers prevented him leaving the ground by standing in front of his car as he attempted to drive away. No sure if he was arrested.
I'm surprised he didn't try to run them over. Needs booting out of the game.
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After all that this idiot has been responsible for is any one surprised that
A) he's repeatedly returned to type
B) talksport employ him
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Heard on the radio coming home that there had been quite a bit of trouble inside and outside at Sunderland V Coventry.
https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/missiles-being-hoyed-all-game-from-north-stand-upper.1469759/page-49
Trouble seems to be creeping back into the game more, especially at the lower level - there were lots of incidents at Wembley between Sunland and Pompey as well.
I wonder if the police cuts are starting to bite and the hooligan groups have sussed out this lack of manpower equates to a licence to ramp up the trouble ?
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Don't know about that but Coventry have got some utter knobheads.
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Heard on the radio coming home that there had been quite a bit of trouble inside and outside at Sunderland V Coventry.
https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/missiles-being-hoyed-all-game-from-north-stand-upper.1469759/page-49
Trouble seems to be creeping back into the game more, especially at the lower level - there were lots of incidents at Wembley between Sunland and Pompey as well.
I wonder if the police cuts are starting to bite and the hooligan groups have sussed out this lack of manpower equates to a licence to ramp up the trouble ?
Not at all.
Police cuts doesn't seem to have affected the complete over kill that is seen at football grounds up and down the country.
Looks like Walsall will be getting relegated too.
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Is it any wonder, when these trouble makers see how our political and ruling classes have been behaving to each other in recent times
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Bradford have now been relegated to League 2 after a 2-0 Defeat at Coventry
Walsall really struggling, got themselves a last gasp equaliser against Southend who are 1 point above them in the bottom 4
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Bradford have now been relegated to League 2 after a 2-0 Defeat at Coventry
Walsall really struggling, got themselves a last gasp winner against Southend who are 1 point above them in the bottom 4
Walsall got a last gasp leveler.
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Walsall got a last gasp leveler.
quite right, amended above :)
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Lincoln City crowned League 2 Champions after a 0-0 draw with Tranmere (courtesy of Mansfield also losing)
Notice Walsall lost again today, they are in dire trouble now and looking like they'll be down in league 2 next season.
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Walsall doing their case no harm winning 2-0
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League 1
Luton and Barnsley both promoted to the Championship after Portsmouth and Sunderland both lost their respective games last night.
Meanwhile the scrap at the bottom is looking very tasty, 6 from the bottom 8 play against each other and any one of 6 (mathematically) of those teams could yet still go down depending on how all the results play out.
Walsall are in dire straits and Shrewsbury confirmed themselves safe on Saturday with a 1-1 draw at Coventry
League 2
Bury join Lincoln for promotion to League 1 after a 1-1 draw at Tranmere on Saturday; incidentally Tranmere have drawn against the top 2 in consecutive weeks which has confirmed them a play off spot.
Yeovil were relegated to the Conference on Saturday after a 2-2 draw with Northampton.
Notts County are in the other relegation spot and looking in real trouble, They can now only catch Macclesfield on the last day with a win against mid table Swindon and hope that Macclesfield lose against 4th from bottom Cambridge..
Would be a shame for the "oldest" league team in the world to go down to the conference IMO... but it is what it is!
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A sad day for all connected with Notts County FC, founder members of the Football League who are relegated to National League.
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Tranmere/forest green
Mansfield/Newport
League 2 play offs. Hopefully Mansfield do it being the most local one
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A sad day for all connected with Notts County FC, founder members of the Football League who are relegated to National League.
As you say sad news!
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Portsmouth/sunderland
Doncaster/charlton
The league 1 play offs. Who we hoping come up if we stay down ? I'll go for Portsmouth or charlton please
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A big well done to my missus' team Newport County [my second team] on reaching the L2 playoff final after beating Mansfield on pens - they were in 10th place in L2 until the 87th min of their last game when they equalised against Morecambe.
However, I do sometimes wonder about the play offs - perhaps if the 2 legs finish tied the higher placed team should progress instead of penalties in the absence of the away goals rule???
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A big well done to my missus' team Newport County [my second team] on reaching the L2 playoff final after beating Mansfield on pens - they were in 10th place in L2 until the 87th min of their last game when they equalised against Morecambe.
However, I do sometimes wonder about the play offs - perhaps if the 2 legs finish tied the higher placed team should progress instead of penalties in the absence of the away goals rule???
Pretty amazing, entertaining game with loads of chances for both sides but 0-0 after 120 mins.(my 2nd team also).
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A big well done to my missus' team Newport County [my second team] on reaching the L2 playoff final after beating Mansfield on pens - they were in 10th place in L2 until the 87th min of their last game when they equalised against Morecambe.
However, I do sometimes wonder about the play offs - perhaps if the 2 legs finish tied the higher placed team should progress instead of penalties in the absence of the away goals rule???
Interesting idea but both teams know what they're playing for at the start of the season. Any play off situation makes league position a farce. See Rugby League for the best example.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48257398
Bolton are set to become the first English Football League club to go into administration for six years after appointing administrators.
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How come Charlton are allowed to take the pens at their own end without the toss of a coin and we are not efl are a f**king joke.
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CHarlton won on pens and they finished 3rd mate
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CHarlton won on pens and they finished 3rd mate
BBC sport website said Doncaster won 4:3 on pens, now they changed it.
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Ahh no worries. It wouldnt be the BBC if they didnt get things wrong.
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How come Charlton can take pens at the home end without the toss of a coin where our tie and Newport Mansfield they had to toss a coin for ends that can't be right.
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Ahh no worries. It wouldnt be the BBC if they didnt get things wrong.
Gutted for Donny, as still remember how some of them stayed back and clapped us when we secured up there after beating them, the only time I have celebrated on the pitch at an away ground, as I couldn't get on at Pompey.
Plus I hate Bowyer, just behind Barton in the scumbag stakes, but their controversial owner duchatlet is funny as he blames the FL for letting him buy the Addicks and wants them to buy the club off him, and Charlton go to his house abroad and vandalise it.
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How come Charlton are allowed to take the pens at their own end without the toss of a coin and we are not efl are a f**king joke.
I thought exactly the same. The commentator said something about safety reasons. Again... Why were they allowed but not us? Infuriating. The Doncaster players were well angry, as they should be.
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Radio London said it was a police decision because items had been thrown onto the pitch earlier in the match from the Doncaster End.
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Sisters fella is a Sunderland fan.
That is painful.
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Best thing that could have happened for us, as a Sunderland are more of threat than basket case Charlton.
If anybody watched today's game how did charlton's Joe Aribo play?
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Best thing that could have happened for us, as a Sunderland are more of threat than basket case Charlton.
If anybody watched today's game how did charlton's Joe Aribo play?
Played well and looks a very good prospect, unfortunately Vile are favourites to sign him.
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With the play offs done the final ups and downs for these leagues are:
League 1
Promoted to Championship
Barnsley,
Charlton,
Luton
Relegated to League 2
Bradford,
Plymouth,
Scunthorpe,
Walsall
League 2
Promoted to League 1
Bury
Lincoln
MK Dons
Tranmere
Relegated to Non League
Notts County
Yeovil Town
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Matt Wilson Retwetted
BREAKING: Jeff Bonser's 27-year reign as Walsall's owner is over with fellow director Leigh Pomlett becoming the club's majority shareholder and chairman.
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Matt Wilson Retwetted
BREAKING: Jeff Bonser's 27-year reign as Walsall's owner is over with fellow director Leigh Pomlett becoming the club's majority shareholder and chairman.
Looks like they have also taken ownership of the Banks' stadium too which is good news.
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1 all draw for Big Dave at Donny. 67% possession apparently, although Rovers are known for possession football.
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Bolton Wanderers are in serious trouble tonight.
Hope than can sort out these latest legal challenges
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Izzy Brown who opted for Chelsea’s big bucks and a London lifestyle instead of developing his talent at the club that gave him his big opportunity has now gone on loan to Luton. I can’t help thinking that his career would have moved forward much quicker if he had remained at The Hawthorns
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Izzy Brown who opted for Chelsea’s big bucks and a London lifestyle instead of developing his talent at the club that gave him his big opportunity has now gone on loan to Luton. I can’t help thinking that his career would have moved forward much quicker if he had remained at The Hawthorns
Luton are in the same league as us this season mate
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Luton are in the same league as us this season mate
Same division, will NEVER be in our league :D ;D
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Izzy Brown who opted for Chelsea’s big bucks and a London lifestyle instead of developing his talent at the club that gave him his big opportunity has now gone on loan to Luton. I can’t help thinking that his career would have moved forward much quicker if he had remained at The Hawthorns
Given he was developing nicely while on loan abroad I think his biggest problem has been injuries as opposed to his London life style. He could have picked those injuries up here just as likely as there but I know which move provided more for he and his family. I'd have loved him to stay or even come back on loan but the protracted nature of his departure, subsequent low fee and acrimony between our board of the time and Chelsea's put an end to that.
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I've just been having a read of some of the going on's at Bury - staggering.
Their recent takeover went through without the approval of the EFL.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/11/bury-takeover-without-full-football-league-approval-transfer-embargo-efl
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/23/bury-players-12-weeks-without-pay-owner-steve-dale
It seems that the previous owner Stewart Day took a variety of loans with high monthly interests rates and secured them against Gigg Lane. He's now flung the club into the hands of an unknown associate who seemingly specialises in insolvent companies and liquidation.
Most of Day's property business have all entered administration. HMRC are owed around £1million.
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I've just been having a read of some of the going on's at Bury - staggering.
Their recent takeover went through without the approval of the EFL.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/11/bury-takeover-without-full-football-league-approval-transfer-embargo-efl
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/23/bury-players-12-weeks-without-pay-owner-steve-dale
It seems that the previous owner Stewart Day took a variety of loans with high monthly interests rates and secured them against Gigg Lane. He's now flung the club into the hands of an unknown associate who seemingly specialises in insolvent companies and liquidation.
Most of Day's property business have all entered administration. HMRC are owed around £1million.
An absolute nightmare for Bury fans... but for the grace of god etc
Given all of the money in ther game in the top league I think that the great footballing minds should get together and help clubs like Bury and Bolton etc to save them from going out of business. Not necessarily give them money, but to loan them the funds to save them and to have an administration in place to ensure that they do not go out of business. After all, these are the feeder clubs that some of our better players come through.
and here we are discussing our goalkeeper and centre back..........puts it all in perspective to me.
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An absolute nightmare for Bury fans... but for the grace of god etc
Given all of the money in ther game in the top league I think that the great footballing minds should get together and help clubs like Bury and Bolton etc to save them from going out of business. Not necessarily give them money, but to loan them the funds to save them and to have an administration in place to ensure that they do not go out of business. After all, these are the feeder clubs that some of our better players come through.
and here we are discussing our goalkeeper and centre back..........puts it all in perspective to me.
It's a fair point you make but there is another argument that says, there are clubs surviving on a very tight budget who also wouldn't mind a bit of a handout as security. Would it make clubs lazier if they knew there was bail out available if they went bust ?
Newport is the situation I know best. As most will know, they went bust were reformed as a new club by supporters, forced to play outside Wales and have progressed through the pyramid to the league 2 play off final last season and cup games against Man City, Spurs and Leicester in the last 2 seasons. It's an ongoing situation which could tail off again but they know the dangers of over ambition through experience.
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In addition to the above comments on Newport there's a documentary about them on bbc iplayer 'giantkillers the team that wouldn't die' incidently my wife saw her late father in some of the footage also, there's a rather interesting programme about Fort William FC in the Highland league called 'The Fort' they have hadn't won a game in over 600 days iirc on the same platform
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The Premier League should not be used a bail out for league clubs whom have not conducted their finances appropriately.
If anything, you are purely going to encourage other clubs to speculate to accumulate or run football clubs disastrously, knowing there is a pool of money to assist them should it go tits up.
Premier League clubs, however, should remove the loan fee to those in the football league. It should be focused towards player development and not fleecing lower league clubs out of funds.
Moreso, it also needs the football league to take a good look at themselves really. There is no way that they should allow their member clubs to be run so disastrously. What the heck are they doing?
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It's a fair point you make but there is another argument that says, there are clubs surviving on a very tight budget who also wouldn't mind a bit of a handout as security. Would it make clubs lazier if they knew there was bail out available if they went bust ?
Newport is the situation I know best. As most will know, they went bust were reformed as a new club by supporters, forced to play outside Wales and have progressed through the pyramid to the league 2 play off final last season and cup games against Man City, Spurs and Leicester in the last 2 seasons. It's an ongoing situation which could tail off again but they know the dangers of over ambition through experience.
To clarify, I was not proposing handouts, but loans to keep the clubs solvent under they can be sorted out financially. I would not see it as a 'speculate to accumulate' scenario and any loan if possible would be secured against the ground etc.
Unscrupulous owners are starting to become the scourge of the earth and it is likely that more clubs will eventually go to the wall like Bury.........
Personally I think the big boys are in a position to help, but I appear to be on my own.
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I've just been having a read of some of the going on's at Bury - staggering.
Their recent takeover went through without the approval of the EFL.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/11/bury-takeover-without-full-football-league-approval-transfer-embargo-efl
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/23/bury-players-12-weeks-without-pay-owner-steve-dale
It seems that the previous owner Stewart Day took a variety of loans with high monthly interests rates and secured them against Gigg Lane. He's now flung the club into the hands of an unknown associate who seemingly specialises in insolvent companies and liquidation.
Most of Day's property business have all entered administration. HMRC are owed around £1million.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/bury-on-the-brink-a-day-in-the-life-of-a-dying-club/ar-AAGdnwO?ocid=spartandhp
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Why doesn't Sky and BT contribute more?
Bury wanted help and they were left begging.
It stinks about how much money is thrown at the Premeiership and it is drown or swim for the rest.
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No moral help even.
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Why doesn't Sky and BT contribute more?
Bury wanted help and they were left begging.
It stinks about how much money is thrown at the Premeiership and it is drown or swim for the rest.
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No moral help even.
BT and Sky contribute plenty but it is then the various football authorities that decide what to do with the money. There is enough money in football to sustain the game from top to bottom without subsidy. Yet football chooses to urine the money up the wall by paying £500,000 a week to a player who is now being desperately hawked around Europe because his club don't want him or £100m plus transfer fees or £40m being paid to an agent to arrange a transfer, or pick any other obscene waste of money there are plenty of examples.
In Bury's case the question is how do you throw the club a lifeline without helping out the shyster ownership? The only sanction the EFL when the owners ignore the rules is against the club. If the ownership don't care about the club then what leverage does the league have?
In all of this people lose sight of what the EFL is. It is an association of clubs and the club ownership including all the shysters won't give the EFL the sort of power that it requires to stop bad ownership from reducing a club to the state that Bury and Bolton find themselves. Were football clubs franchises then the League would have real contractual muscle but it does not possess the sort of power that can really hold owners to account.
If you look at FFP which for the most part was introduced to protect clubs from their owners stupidity instead of complying ownerships have used all sorts of ruses to circumvent the rules, the latest wheeze being the sale and lease back of a clubs ground. This is madness and it would appear that the League is powerless to prevent it.
With an hour and a half left before the deadline this from the BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49455433
Dale says the League One club has been sold to a football analytics company.
Well we wait and see I wouldn't take that cheque to the bank just yet.
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Just seen that Dale apparently has 43 liquidations to his name and the EFL admitted to not doing proper checks on his as the club "were in financial trouble", the mind boggles.
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In all of this people lose sight of what the EFL is. It is an association of clubs and the club ownership including all the shysters won't give the EFL the sort of power that it requires to stop bad ownership from reducing a club to the state that Bury and Bolton find themselves. Were football clubs franchises then the League would have real contractual muscle but it does not possess the sort of power that can really hold owners to account.
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Thanks for this. What it seems to imply is that the EFL is a private club that can make its own rules and behave how it wants as long it doesn't defraud or affect anyone outside the club? As supporters we are merely observers.
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Apparently £7m of Bury’s debt was sold for £70k to a company owned by Dale’s daughter’s husband. The evidence for this seems strong.
As part of the CVA, a quarter of the debt should be paid. So the daughters husbands company should be paid £1.75m.
Blokes a crook, should jail Dale and his Daughters husband as it’s clearly defrauding genuine creditors
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Thanks for this. What it seems to imply is that the EFL is a private club that can make its own rules and behave how it wants as long it doesn't defraud or affect anyone outside the club? As supporters we are merely observers.
In law which is the only means that anyone has to compel an entity to do something it is disinclined to do at best you are a customer. Unless fans own clubs collectively which there is little or no tradition of in this country that is the extent of our rights.
I find this issue hugely frustrating in that the one thing that fixes the issue is a root and branch reform of how the income within the game is distributed which is not going to happen. If anything the distribution of the games income will become less rather than more equitable.
Bad ownership is as much as a symptom as a cause of the problem.
Let me explain. It is very difficult to run a club outside the top 2 flights on a break even sustainable basis. Often clubs require owner subsidy to survive. There is a limited pool of owners willing to take on the challenge and often the League and a clubs fans are just grateful that someone is prepared to step up to the plate. While they maybe able to pass whatever test at the point of purchase it does not mean that the whole thing won't fall apart when the enterprise hits the first set back. Nor does it mean the owner isn't a complete megalomaniac in point of fact the ownership model positively encourages that type of owner.
Once an ownership is in situ, there is precious little anyone can do about it. The sanctions available to the league e.g. points deductions etc.. punish the club and the fans but unless there is an alternative ownership waiting in the wings largely leave the ownership unscathed.
It is a mess and everything the League has done to date is largely a sticking plaster.
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I know that there has been some rumblings in the press about it, but I would have thought that a club like Man Utd could come in here and take ownership of the club, and use it as a feeder club for themselves - a Man Utd B team so to speak. I am not suggesting for one second that the crooks who are currently involved should receive one penny but I am pretty sure that this could be an arrangement that would benefit both Bury and MUFC
If there is evidence of malfeasance then it needs to be dealt with appropriately.
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I know that there has been some rumblings in the press about it, but I would have thought that a club like Man Utd could come in here and take ownership of the club, and use it as a feeder club for themselves - a Man Utd B team so to speak. I am not suggesting for one second that the crooks who are currently involved should receive one penny but I am pretty sure that this could be an arrangement that would benefit both Bury and MUFC
If there is evidence of malfeasance then it needs to be dealt with appropriately.
It’s against the rules I think for one club in the system to own another. It happens in Spain where the Barca / Real reserves are in the system but cannot be promoted to La liga. It has been suggested over here to help player development in the past but it’s always been rejected to protect the integrity of the 92.
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It’s against the rules I think for one club in the system to own another. It happens in Spain where the Barca / Real reserves are in the system but cannot be promoted to La liga. It has been suggested over here to help player development in the past but it’s always been rejected to protect the integrity of the 92.
I am aware that there cannot be direct ownership, but I am sure that a way can be found where Bury can be 'assisted' by a bigger club
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I am aware that there cannot be direct ownership, but I am sure that a way can be found where Bury can be 'assisted' by a bigger club
in a way like the City group or Red Bull teams?
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Big Dave done the Cowley bros today. Up the Donny!!
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I dont think any club should be helping out Bury personally. Why should they? and What precedence would it set for other clubs in the lower reaches??
If Bury go out of business then another team from the National League who are run correctly get their opportunity for league football or to come back into the league structure.
Im with Bury fans but ultimately no club should be funding a lower league club out of their own pockets.
This would also get the EFL off the hook for their very poor management.
What I feel should happen though is a redistributon of a percentage of Prem TV money down the leagues. But we all know the Premier League was created to keep the money to themselves and as a separate entity to the Football League.
Like they did when the big clubs made sure that instead of home attendance money being split 50/50 and giving a club a cashflow every week they kept the money to themselves which then ensured that clubs like Burnley and us etc could not win the league title again as we could no longer compete financially with clubs with 50/60/70k+ attendances each week compared to 25-30k like we had.
I'd have 10-15% of the Prem TV money redistributed between the lower leagues. Football is a like a house of cards, weaken the bottom and the top will fall in.
I love that we have a 92 team professional football league (with many non-league also professional these days) and we have to make sure that its existence is not threatened. There is billions sloshing around in the Prem whilst other clubs are running at a loss lower down. A lot of this comes from the big clubs paying young players huge amounts of money who dont make it then have unreal wage expectations when they ultimately get released from these clubs and have to drop down to make a career.
I hope Bury can be saved, but where one league club dies another team lower down who is run correctly can rise and have their day in the sun
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Bolton's EFL future under renewed threat after takeover deal collapses.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49470865
They have to be saved by 17:00 BST on Tuesday, but I can't find a date to say which Tuesday.
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Bolton's EFL future under renewed threat after takeover deal collapses.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49470865
They have to be saved by 17:00 BST on Tuesday, but I can't find a date to say which Tuesday.
That is tomorrow. The administrators aren't messing around here if there was any chance of doing this quietly behind the scenes that is the path they would chose to take. It would appear that at the centre of this is a dispute between the current ownership and the Eddie Davis Trust who are owed £7m. How either party has any equity left in this is beyond me but that is where we are at the moment and it is hard to see this being resolved.
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still no confirmation as of yet from EFL or the two clubs, but it's not looking good for either Bolton or Bury this evening with both staring down the barrel.
Jim White's coverage on sky sports news for this has been a disgrace as well today. Standing in front of a massive timer with the two club logo's on it as if it were transfer deadling day - utter ****
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still no confirmation as of yet from EFL or the two clubs, but it's not looking good for either bolton or Bury this evening with both staring down the barrel.
Jim White's coverage on sky sports news for this has been a disgrace as well today. Standing in front of a massive timer with the two club logo's on it as if it were transfer deadling day - utter ****
Yes Dan87uk. Morally wrong Sky have lots of money could have saved both teams. But to be fair they are under no obligation to save either.
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I am aware that there cannot be direct ownership, but I am sure that a way can be found where Bury can be 'assisted' by a bigger club
In fairness, you did say you thought a club like united could come and take ownership, which suggested you weren’t aware.
In general I don’t think any of the broadcasters or any specific clubs should help. It’s not their responsibility. City have given bury a training ground and they only needed to keep it tidy and they couldn’t manage that.
Feel for the fans, but I’m sure United and City will help the next generation of fan in the area by targeting the catchment area further for their own support.
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still no confirmation as of yet from EFL or the two clubs, but it's not looking good for either Bolton or Bury this evening with both staring down the barrel.
Jim White's coverage on sky sports news for this has been a disgrace as well today. Standing in front of a massive timer with the two club logo's on it as if it were transfer deadling day - utter ****
I am afraid Jim White is a ‘lick spittler’ Any one noticed how often he pushes West Ham on his show on Talk Sport , as long as he gets his free afternoon in a corporate box he is anybody’s .
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I do feel sorry for the fans a little bit but I think this is needed to hit home the reality that if you spend more than you bring in then this is the risk you run.
In my opinion FFP doesn't go far enough. There shouldn't just be a profitability test alone and would be much for effective with a second cash flow test. There are plenty of profitable businesses who go into liquidation due to cash flow problems.
FFP should be far stricter in my opinion in the amount it allows owners to fund businesses which should be linked to a small multiple of prior three years cash revenues.
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I would be interested to know who actually owns the ground/freehold of the ground. Should the worst come to the worst then these 2 p!it's of land will be worth a small fortune as building land !!
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Gutted for the fans of both clubs. I can’t imagine how it would feel if it was us.
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This gives a bit of background on Bury
http://backpagefootball.com/a-timeline-of-events-at-bury-fc/121639/
I am not sure that anyone has run the club well in 20 years but the current ownership seem to be the bottom of the barrel. It seems that either owners are well intended but without a sustainable model they get tired of the losses or they are complete charlatans like Day or Dale.
Update Bury have been expelled from the league following the collapse of the takeover. The plain truth is sadly this could not go on forever.
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A sad sad day for football. How many clubs does it take to go under to realise how messed up the game truly is. My heart goes out to bury fans tonight. There’s every chance Bolton may survive but that will drag on a little longer until we officially know.
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Gutted for the fans of both clubs. I can’t imagine how it would feel if it was us.
Bit of warning for lots of football clubs. And also to those fans, and maybe we are all sometimes guilty, who talk as if the club has unlimited funds at its disposal.
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I am gutted as Gigg Lane was one of my most memorable nights as a baggie (for all the wrong reasons)
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The ones who suffer are the fans.
btw. How many games did they play?
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Perhaps its time for there to be a North and South lower leagues like there used to be. Cutting costs for these clubs.
Id also reintroduce 50/50 attendance splits home and away to ensure that there is a weekly cashflow for the clubs in those leagues.
I think this isnt the last time we will see this happening though, im willing to bet there are quite a few clubs very close to the edge right now.
Its why im glad we havent pushed the boat out as much financially for players like Dwight Gayle.....promotion back to the Prem does give you huge financial incentives but at the same time your operating costs go up.
Survival of the club for its fans and its community is more important.
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I am gutted as Gigg Lane was one of my most memorable nights as a baggie (for all the wrong reasons)
Losing 1-0 In the fog ?
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Losing 1-0 In the fog ?
I was there too. An unusually poor performance from us (from what I could see) followed by a death defying journey back down the M6, Happy Days!
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Losing 1-0 In the fog ?
Freezing fog. The coldest I’ve ever been at a game.
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Losing 1-0 In the fog ?
Yup, thats the one, a long time ago !
I won't bore you with the tale but suffice to say its etched on my memory
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Bolton saved!
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Jack Ross sacked.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11695/11830823/sunderland-sack-jack-ross-as-manager?fbclid=IwAR229vUfl2jrzBuPBDs_2JCn8bFzku718aXIAtoXwr4y0hRaHhvAWPmmsdU
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Bury AFC have been formed and have applied to join the North West Counties Football League next season.
Bury FC aren’t going under as the debts have been paid.
Theoretically that could mean TWO Bury football clubs when, at one point, there may have been none.
Good news for Bury FC, I wonder if there will be a merger?
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I was there too. An unusually poor performance from us (from what I could see) followed by a death defying journey back down the M6, Happy Days!
I went to that one as well, never saw their goal, went on the Global double decker, horrible journey there and back, bitterly cold
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With the EFL close to announcing promotion and relegation based on PPG, and with Macclesfield getting a points deduction that puts them into the relegation zone, it looks like 2 sides will come up from the National league after all. Depending on what discussions take place in the national league, that could mean the new Football league will welcome Barrow (first time since 1972) and Harrogate Town (firs time ever).
Barrow provides a nice boost to Cumbrian sport and a flash back to the 60’s where they once challenging for promotion to what is now the Championship, however the most remarkable promotion with be Harrogate, a club who in the 1980’s were playing in regional football (at a level on a par with Tipton Town) and in the last few years have been battling with clubs like Hednesford and Telford in the 7th tier.
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With the EFL close to announcing promotion and relegation based on PPG, and with Macclesfield getting a points deduction that puts them into the relegation zone, it looks like 2 sides will come up from the National league after all. Depending on what discussions take place in the national league, that could mean the new Football league will welcome Barrow (first time since 1972) and Harrogate Town (firs time ever).
Barrow provides a nice boost to Cumbrian sport and a flash back to the 60’s where they once challenging for promotion to what is now the Championship, however the most remarkable promotion with be Harrogate, a club who in the 1980’s were playing in regional football (at a level on a par with Tipton Town) and in the last few years have been battling with clubs like Hednesford and Telford in the 7th tier.
Watched Harrogate vs Pompey on the tv ...cup match so obviously they would have upped their game, but they play some really good football.
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League 2 have agreed in principle to end the season using weighted PPG, with automatic promotion decided and play-offs to be played bcd. Despite 20 of 24 voting down relegation it seems unlikely the FA will sanction this. Barrow, Harrogate and Notts County among others would have a strong legal case in this instance. The division has some wiggle room because of Bury.
League 1 could not reach agreement.
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surprised they've gone for play offs. I'd have thought a straight 4 up would have made more sense. No need for any games to be played.
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surprised they've gone for play offs. I'd have thought a straight 4 up would have made more sense. No need for any games to be played.
Presumably legal challenges from Exeter, Northampton and Colchester.
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League 2 voted to end season, League 1 voting now.
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looking like Cov versus Vile at St Andrews next season, tasty !
Could be worth popping along to that one. Unique !
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League 2 voted to end season, League 1 voting now.
Play offs next week 👀
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League One have also voted to curtail, different dynamic to this vote which I think will be tested in the courts. Peterborough, Tranmere and Sunderland will be particularly put out
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League One have also voted to curtail, different dynamic to this vote which I think will be tested in the courts. Peterborough, Tranmere and Sunderland will be particularly put out
i agree Tranmere and S'land will be irate, but why do you include posh (in playoffs)
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i agree Tranmere and S'land will be irate, but why do you include posh (in playoffs)
They aren't.
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To be honest the only sensible decision for League 1. The play-offs seem a bit of a sop to one or two clubs who would have bankrupted the rest of the league to pursue promotion.
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They aren't.
OOps, just seen the updated ppg table, that is 'kin annoying for Posh! Livid !!!
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OOps, just seen the updated ppg table, that is 'kin annoying for Posh! Livid !!!
Supposedly missed out by 0.02 points per game, and were on a run of 22 points from a possible 27 when the season was halted. They'd have finished top 2 never mind play-offs. MacAnthony must be seething.
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Supposedly missed out by 0.02 points per game, and were on a run of 22 points from a possible 27 when the season was halted. They'd have finished top 2 never mind play-offs. MacAnthony must be seething.
I know that you have to upset someone, but that does seem 'kin harsh
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looking like Cov versus Vile at St Andrews next season, tasty !
Could be worth popping along to that one. Unique !
I’m in
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Supposedly missed out by 0.02 points per game, and were on a run of 22 points from a possible 27 when the season was halted. They'd have finished top 2 never mind play-offs. MacAnthony must be seething.
It’s a shame for Posh. I like MacAnthony - find both he and Andy Holt very refreshing.
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Supposedly missed out by 0.02 points per game, and were on a run of 22 points from a possible 27 when the season was halted. They'd have finished top 2 never mind play-offs. MacAnthony must be seething.
I think Fleetwood were on a very similar run over the last 10 games and had beaten P’Boro and Sunderland and Drawn with Portsmouth in that run. I think they quite fancied the top two and had favourable remaining games too.
Of course they’ve got a play off spot but it’s a bit of a lottery, now so more than ever.
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Coventry fans had a promotion party in the city centre today.
I suppose it was too far to go to "their" ground to celebrate.
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Colchester vs Exeter live on Sky NOW.
Former Albion loanee Frank Nouble features for the home side.
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Exeter through to the play off final 3-2 on aggregate
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Our Callum Morton has put Northampton level away at Cheltenham in the other play off and with it I’m switching from the Man City game to watch the last half hour.
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Morton scores again to put Northampton 3-0 up on the night and 3-2 on aggregate.
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Morton scores again to put Northampton 3-0 up on the night and 3-2 on aggregate.
How did Morton play, I know he got two. I heard his game isn't based on pace.
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I will happily go out on a limb and say Kanu wouldn't have scored either of those goals.
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He got man of the match. He has bundles of energy, probably should have been told to calm down a bit at the end because he was sprinting back in to challenges while on a booking and one slip would have meant he was missing the final.
His finishing looks like it needs some work if he’s going to make it at a higher level as he made a real mess of a couple of chances. Also needs to bulk up some, he’s very slight.
6 goals in 10 games in your first foray in to league football is no mean feat though. He’ll surely be in league one next season whether Northampton are or not.
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He got man of the match. He has bundles of energy, probably should have been told to calm down a bit at the end because he was sprinting back in to challenges while on a booking and one slip would have meant he was missing the final.
His finishing looks like it needs some work if he’s going to make it at a higher level as he made a real mess of a couple of chances. Also needs to bulk up some, he’s very slight.
6 goals in 10 games in your first foray in to league football is no mean feat though. He’ll surely be in league one next season whether Northampton are or not.
Yes he needs league one.
Palmer also needs that level if we tie him down
Edward's leko harper and field will all need championship moves if we get promoted.
Tulloch if he signs needs to go out also
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Another gilt edged finish by Morton for Northampton. Fox in the Box.
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Callum Morton receiving some very positive comments from the commentators at play off final game. The lad is playing well.
30 mins
Exeter 0-1 Northampton
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Callum Morton receiving some very positive comments from the commentators at play off final game. The lad is playing well.
30 mins
Exeter 0-1 Northampton
Just scored - can we play him this season possibly?
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Just scored - can we play him this season possibly?
Not unless we "registered" him in the 1st team squad in Jan, which we 99% didn't
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Not unless we "registered" him in the 1st team squad in Jan, which we 99% didn't
he's a youth player, he wouldn't count as a squad place to my knowledge.
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If he’s on a season long loan he wouldn’t be back to play for us perhaps ? As in play offs usually same w/e so couldn’t play both
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He doesn’t look like todays stereotypical footballer and he reminds me a lot of the “scruff looking†Steve Claridge, but the lad certainly knows where the back of the net is, as did Claridge
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I’ve seen Morton a few times now, and he’s nowhere near ready for the championship or above. He needs a year in league one. The big question is whether that’s with Northampton or you’d want to try him playing in a side that will be more comfortable at that level.
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he's a youth player, he wouldn't count as a squad place to my knowledge.
Good point, I hadn't considered that, so once Northamptons season is over (tonight) / the loan agreement ends, he should be back to being our player and available. so in theory he could be our saviour :o ;D
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Good point, I hadn't considered that, so once Northamptons season is over (tonight) / the loan agreement ends, he should be back to being our player and available. so in theory he could be our saviour :o ;D
I don’t think Slav would have the kahoonas to play him....and you would think that Tillich would be next in the pecking order?
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85 mins
Exeter 0-3 Northampton
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I don’t think Slav would have the kahoonas to play him....and you would think that Tillich would be next in the pecking order?
Slav did have the gonads to, pick that lad at full back most of us had never seen play, I can't say his name as the board will implode if I do.
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91 mins
Exeter 0-4 Northampton
Game over, awhile ago me thinks
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Slav did have the gonads to, pick that lad at full back most of us had never seen play, I can't say his name as the board will implode if I do.
he did it twice when he gave Dara a chance, both out of position. I don't think he will go with Morton this season just because of lack of time and he'd be 4th choice, but next season might be interesting.
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FT
Exeter 0-4 Northampton
Going up, going up..............
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Slav did have the gonads to, pick that lad at full back most of us had never seen play, I can't say his name as the board will implode if I do.
Sort of....but there weren’t 3 established pros in front of him....
Anyway....wouldn’t hurt to have him on the bench
It’s then wether we would actually give him enough time to have impact
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FT
Exeter 0-4 Northampton
Going up, going up..............
I had no idea Keith Curle was manager of Northampton until I saw his name trending on Twitter.
I will always remember him for that own goal though. Keith Curle, there is only one Keith Curle.
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Looks like Callum was named Man of the Match
Well done and congratulations Callum
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I’ve seen Morton a few times now, and he’s nowhere near ready for the championship or above. He needs a year in league one. The big question is whether that’s with Northampton or you’d want to try him playing in a side that will be more comfortable at that level.
Disagree on both counts, he would be ok in the championship and i think Northampton will do just fine in league one. Mid table.
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I’ve seen Morton a few times now, and he’s nowhere near ready for the championship or above. He needs a year in league one. The big question is whether that’s with Northampton or you’d want to try him playing in a side that will be more comfortable at that level.
I've only seen him in the play-offs but his positioning and timing of his runs looked excellent. He should have had another later on but missed a 1v1. Maybe it's too crazy to put him in the team now anyway - even if it was possible. But he's definitely one to look out for. Maybe it's best he stays there next season and we'll see how he makes the step up. He seems hungry for it though.
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Anyone watching the league one play off semi final between Fleetwood and Wycombe? If so can someone confirm that there is some supporters behind the goal! Just to prove i ain't going saft!!
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Anyone watching the league one play off semi final between Fleetwood and Wycombe? If so can someone confirm that there is some supporters behind the goal! Just to prove i ain't going saft!!
There might have been the odd person, but certainly not a normal crowd.
Wycombe win 4-1 and could be on their way to the Championship. They are the team I supported as a schoolboy. It will seem weird if they make it through to that level. I have always thought of them as a big amateur club. Our idea of a big game then was if they played Barnet. Oxford United was another level up.
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There might have been the odd person, but certainly not a normal crowd.
Wycombe win 4-1 and could be on their way to the Championship. They are the team I supported as a schoolboy. It will seem weird if they make it through to that level. I have always thought of them as a big amateur club. Our idea of a big game then was if they played Barnet. Oxford United was another level up.
Behind the goal Wycombe where attacking in the 2nd half it looked like there was about 10 people standing together all wearing masks. I know a Wycombe fan who goes to every game home and away! He told me one game he travelled from Wycombe to Carlisle over night for a night game the next day, he said when he got there nothing was open! He had to wslk about waiting for Carlisle to come to life. Fair play to him!!
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Anyone watching the league one play off semi final between Fleetwood and Wycombe? If so can someone confirm that there is some supporters behind the goal! Just to prove i ain't going saft!!
They were mannequins of their singing section
The photo I saw resembled the blow up dolls out of OFAH ;D
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Behind the goal Wycombe where attacking in the 2nd half it looked like there was about 10 people standing together all wearing masks. I know a Wycombe fan who goes to every game home and away! He told me one game he travelled from Wycombe to Carlisle over night for a night game the next day, he said when he got there nothing was open! He had to wslk about waiting for Carlisle to come to life. Fair play to him!!
Hard to say. I imagine the odd person or 2 gets into these games (you know friend of a friend). If they are doing social distancing properly, then I don't have a problem.
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Hard to say. I imagine the odd person or 2 gets into these games (you know friend of a friend). If they are doing social distancing properly, then I don't have a problem.
It’s not hard to say. They’re not real fans..
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcBkvfFXgAgYK53.jpg)
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They were mannequins of their singing section
The photo I saw resembled the blow up dolls out of OFAH ;D
Ar right! Not joking now i had to have my eyes tested last week and i need new glasses, my eyes were that bad they said it usually takes 2 weeks too get them but they where going to mark them as urgent!! No wonder i couldn't tell the difference :D
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Ar right! Not joking now i had to have my eyes tested last week and i need new glasses, my eyes were that bad they said it usually takes 2 weeks too get them but they where going to mark them as urgent!! No wonder i couldn't tell the difference :D
In fairness Keith... I had the same issue. I had the benefit of twitter to put my mind at ease and confirm I was not seeing things ;)
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In fairness Keith... I had the same issue. I had the benefit of twitter to put my mind at ease and confirm I was not seeing things ;)
cheers Liam thanks for clearing that up for me !
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Thames Valley derby at Wembley Wycombe Wanderers v Oxford.
Fleetwood a bit unlucky but Wycombe earned it on 1st leg. They have a very useful goal finisher, Fred Onyedimna. A bit comical watching Afinkenwa the heavyweight (literally) forward. He can only run 2-3 yards, then stops. But they use him as a battering ram type target man.
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This seems surreal, Wycombe Wanderers who I watched as a kid, 1-0 up, 45 minutes away from the Championship. Ainsworth's football not the most attractive, fairly direct, but now its all about the result.
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This seems surreal, Wycombe Wanderers who I watched as a kid, 1-0 up, 45 minutes away from the Championship. Ainsworth's football not the most attractive, fairly direct, but now its all about the result.
I used to go to the Manor Ground quite often when I studied and worked in Oxford so I hope they go on and win it. Ainsworth has done a great job at Wycombe yet his managing prowess is clearly greater than his sense of fashion- it's like Richard III escaped Bosworth Field only to be hoovered up by the porn industry.
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Living in Buckinghamshire, should we fail to go up at least I'll have an easy new away day whoever wins this!
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Well done to Wycombe first time at this level 2-1 winners with a ground licensed for less than 10k capacity.
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The first match I ever watched was Wycombe v Kingstonian, when my dad promised me if I went to the dentist I could either go train spotting or watch Wycombe. Can't believe they've made it this far. I still maintain the football was more attractive in the Isthmian League and Conference. Ainsworth's football is very direct, but he had them all fired up.
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Well done to Wycombe first time at this level 2-1 winners with a ground licensed for less than 10k capacity.
That's right and they won't be allowed to extend as its an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty. The ground is at the end of a cul de sac so there's only one way out, meaning it can take a long time to get away.
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“Coventry City have announced an agreement with Warwick University who will provide land to the club to build a new stadium.â€
That’s great news for City, now they only have to find the money to develop the stadium, I hope they do.
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“Coventry City have announced an agreement with Warwick University who will provide land to the club to build a new stadium.â€
That’s great news for City, now they only have to find the money to develop the stadium, I hope they do.
And use the Ricoh just for jumble sales and raffles?
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And use the Ricoh just for jumble sales and raffles?
They don't own the Ricoh anymore - Wasps do
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They don't own the Ricoh anymore - Wasps do
Don't think they ever owned it, that was the problem.
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Let's hope it's better than the Ricoh. The epitome of modern soulless bowl stadia.
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Let's hope it's better than the Ricoh. The epitome of modern soulless bowl stadia.
Ahh really? I always felt that was on of the better new builds. Not amazing but it atleast had something slightly different.
And Jacko, you might be right yeah was it council owned? Either way, a mess.
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Ahh really? I always felt that was on of the better new builds. Not amazing but it atleast had something slightly different.
And Jacko, you might be right yeah was it council owned? Either way, a mess.
Just another Leicester/Derby/Swansea/Southampton with different coloured seats to me.
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i believe the council still own the club but have leased to someone who sublets it to Wasps, the leasees have all the catering rights etc. Hence the mess its been for a few years now.
I could have this wrong though
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I'm sure Wasps own the stadium outright and the club itself is owned by a private company of some sort. Whichever, the Ricoh is indeed a soulless pit.
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I'm sure Wasps own the stadium outright and the club itself is owned by a private company of some sort. Whichever, the Ricoh is indeed a soulless pit.
you are right Dan, I have my finger on the pulse as ever, 6 years since SISU had the lease !
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I understand that the new League 1 season will start on the 12th of September.
But the planned trials for 30% crowd capacity from October have been shelved.
Given that last season was curtailed because lower league clubs could not afford to play without fans, how can they afford to start next season the same way?
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Salary Cap voted in. To commence immediately.
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I imagine that will go down well with the players.
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I imagine that will go down well with the players.
The likes of Sunderland and Portsmouth are not happy.
Depends how it's implemented of course.
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Over a 25 man squad it averages £2k per week in league one. Obviously still a massive amount of money to most but given the money in football I think it’s too low.
Signing any player from league one or below just got a lot cheaper.
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Macclesfield relegated on appeal.
Stevenage survive. The EFL really is a cesspit.
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Walsall Football Club needs financial help
Source: https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/WalsallFCCovid19
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Wigan Athletic: Administrators agree deal with Spain-based bidder
Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54361786
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EFL clubs reject bailout 🙈
If I was the Prem I'd just walk away. Take it or leave it.
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Dan Roan just tweeted this
Premier League £50m bail-out (£20m grant/ £30m loans) about to be rejected by the EFL. Just spoke to a club chief incensed by the strings attached to the package.
“They want control over fixture scheduling. It’s derisory & outrageous.†They’ll want Govt to get tougher with PL.
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This is all fine and dandy it seems everyone in football knows exactly what they don't want but apart from more money nobody can agree on what they do want.
Meanwhile I found this
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54554187.
There are 3 remarkable points to note.
1. Peter Risdale believes anything up to 6 Championship clubs could go to the wall by Christmas and if that is the case the Championship the position in League 1 and 2 is likely to be no better
2. Trevor Hemming an owner often lambasted by a section of the PNE support for his lack of ambition is underwriting the club's mounting losses.
3. But the most remarkable thing is Risdale is still involved in the game after leaving a trail of financial chaos in his wake at virtually every club he has been associated with and being barred as a director for 8 years following the collapse of his company that provided advice to football clubs. Question how the hell does something that is a consultancy end up with £400k of debt? It's proprietor taking out £347k of funds for personal use might have something to do with it.
That in a nutshell is everything that is wrong. I am not sure how you fix it but keeping absolute chancers like Risdale away from the petty cash might not be a bad place to start.
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Sunderland have parted company with manager Phil Parkinson. (Source:@SunderlandAFC)
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Sunderland have parted company with manager Phil Parkinson. (Source:@SunderlandAFC)
They have had 20 managers since they fired Peter Reid in 2003
Only 2 have survived for more than 100 games Mick McCarthy and Roy Kean who was manager for exactly 100 games.
Only 1 Sam Allardyce resigned to go to another job.
I don't know maybe firing the manager is not the key to sucess.
Sunderland are apparently in the process of being taken over by a 22 year old heir to a multi billion fortune.
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Should be a quiz question on Sporcle...
Name the 20 managers since Peter Reid was sacked :D
Parkinson, Grayson, Ross, Coleman, PDC, Allardyce, MON, Poyet, Bruce, Keane, McCarthy, Wilkinson,
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Should be a quiz question on Sporcle...
Name the 20 managers since Peter Reid was sacked :D
Parkinson, Grayson, Ross, Coleman, PDC, Allardyce, MON, Poyet, Bruce, Keane, McCarthy, Wilkinson,
harder to name who hasn't !
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They have had 20 managers since they fired Peter Reid in 2003
Only 2 have survived for more than 100 games Mick McCarthy and Roy Kean who was manager for exactly 100 games.
Only 1 Sam Allardyce resigned to go to another job.
I don't know maybe firing the manager is not the key to sucess.
Sunderland are apparently in the process of being taken over by a 22 year old heir to a multi billion fortune.
Chelsea have had 14 managers in the same time and won 15 major trophies.
The key to success is money (as if we didn't know)
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Chelsea have had 14 managers in the same time and won 15 major trophies.
The key to success is money (as if we didn't know)
Sunderland have had money in that time, they had quite of lot off Ellis Short tbh. They just used it poorly. They bought a mismatched, unbalanced squad, and had to pay players over the odds to convince them to go there. I think in this instance, it's the way it was used.
I wish they were still doing Sunderland 'til I Die, because the last couple of seasons would have been worth a watch.
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One time rumour mill favourite Marcus Maddison looks like his time is up at Charlton. Lee Bowyer has laid into him post game last night, questioning if he was faking injury.
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One time rumour mill favourite Marcus Maddison looks like his time is up at Charlton. Lee Bowyer has laid into him post game last night, questioning if he was faking injury.
What was said? I haven’t been able to find anything online.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/RichCawleySLP/status/1347667278410756098
Richard Cawley covers Charlton and his twitter account has the full quotes but this is the main one. Not the first time he has criticised Maddison either.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/RichCawleySLP/status/1347667278410756098
Richard Cawley covers Charlton and his twitter account has the full quotes but this is the main one. Not the first time he has criticised Maddison either.
Yeah, I read Bowyer's comments on Maddison's full debut earlier. They weren't particularly flattering.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/marcus-maddison-will-have-to-work-harder-if-he-wants-to-play-for-me-lee-bowyer-has-his-say-on-charlton-athletic-midfielders-full-debut/
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https://mobile.twitter.com/RichCawleySLP/status/1347667278410756098
Richard Cawley covers Charlton and his twitter account has the full quotes but this is the main one. Not the first time he has criticised Maddison either.
Thanks mate - I did have a browse by typing Bowyer's name into the news function of Google but nothing returned.
Very rare to see a manager publicly call out his players like that !
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Wimbledon are considering the Chelsea women’s Manager as their next Manager. Emma Hayes.
Surely they won’t!
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Wimbledon are considering the Chelsea women’s Manager as their next Manager. Emma Hayes.
Surely they won’t!
Somebody will eventually.
It don’t think it will go particularly well when they do.
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Somebody will eventually.
It don’t think it will go particularly well when they do.
It will probably be a left wing club like Forest Green/Brighton.
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Wimbledon are considering the Chelsea women’s Manager as their next Manager. Emma Hayes.
Surely they won’t!
And pardew apparently!
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It will probably be a left wing club like Forest Green/Brighton.
Funnily enough, I nearly said forest green!
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I have pot plants that would be better coaches than Alan Pardew in a straight choice between him and Emma Hayes I would take Emma Hayes.
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What do those being disparaging about the idea of a woman managing a men's football team feel about the plethora of instances that exist of men managing women's football teams?
Are your views based on sociological reasons or is it down to misogyny? Also, what does political ideology have to do with it?
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Crawley are playing with fire with the Mark ‘TOWIE’ Wright documentary signing, bet he’s walking round giving it Billy Big Balls even after getting subbed at half time.
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I think if she is good enough then why shouldn’t she be considered.
Whether it works and she manages to get players behind her is another thing, but I see no reason why a woman couldn’t coach and manage a team as well as a man. At worst she can only be bad...like a ton of male managers are
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Big Dave taken 30 points from last 33 available.
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I think if she is good enough then why shouldn’t she be considered.
Whether it works and she manages to get players behind her is another thing, but I see no reason why a woman couldn’t coach and manage a team as well as a man. At worst she can only be bad...like a ton of male managers are
Apparently she’s not interested and no money in the world could tempt her. In other words she wasn’t successful in her application. We’ve seen it ourselves over the years, most recently with Alex Neil.
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Big Dave taken 30 points from last 33 available.
Appleton and Moore to get promoted? :)
Be like a mini reunion next season
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Apparently she’s not interested and no money in the world could tempt her. In other words she wasn’t successful in her application. We’ve seen it ourselves over the years, most recently with Alex Neil.
Both Hayes and Wimbledon have confirmed that it was a non story. It was probably the case that at boardroom level Wimbledon mentioned her and it got to the press. For what it's worth, Hayes would have been made to leave guaranteed job security at Chelsea women to go to relegation threatened league 1 side.
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What do those being disparaging about the idea of a woman managing a men's football team feel about the plethora of instances that exist of men managing women's football teams?
Are your views based on sociological reasons or is it down to misogyny? Also, what does political ideology have to do with it?
I imagine you probably included my comments in this, since it was only BB74 and I who had commented on it.
I have absolutely no problem with women doing any job in any field. It’s also not a given a women will do a poor job either. I think the odds are against them though.
I think a women entering the mans game is significantly different given the history and profile of each variant. Sociological factors do come in to play. There is also a big difference between a group of young men and a group of young women at the best of times, but this seems to be heightened in sport and then football magnifies this a thousand times further.
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Michael Appleton has signed a new 4 year contract at Lincoln City.
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Any one else noticed the job Jimmy Floyd Hasselbank is doing at my local club Burton Albion
They were absolutely rock bottom at New Year and looking certs for relegation
Since Jimmy took over on New Years Day they have won 8 out of 10 games (won the last 5 on the bounce), and are now 5 points clear of the drop zone with 2 games in hand of most teams
Win percentage 80%
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Any one else noticed the job Jimmy Floyd Hasselbank is doing at my local club Burton Albion
They were absolutely rock bottom at New Year and looking certs for relegation
Since Jimmy took over on New Years Day they have won 8 out of 10 games (won the last 5 on the bounce), and are now 5 points clear of the drop zone with 2 games in hand of most teams
Win percentage 80%
Very good but he will be gone the moment a team in the league above come calling.
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Very good but he will be gone the moment a team in the league above come calling.
I commented on JFH on another thread yesterday (i was reluctant to say too much about his current run due to the ban on discussing alternative managers) he was also featured on TV at the weekend.
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Walsall not looking in good form under there new manager possibly edging if not into a Relegation dog fight.
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Well done Salford City on winning the 2020 Papa Johns Trophy yesterday, which they will hold for less than 24 hours as the 2021 final is today!
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Salfords reign as champions is now over as Sunderland beat Tranmere in this seasons final.
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Must be the record for the shortest time a team has the trophy. They literally just got it travelled back to Salford and then instantly it needs to be returned back to I guess Wembley.
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Ipswich have been taken over by American investment fund ORG
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I'd be fascinated to know what's in it for these investment companies. Potentially dwindling broadcast revenue, most clubs running at a loss and a European quasi super league on its way.
How are you meant to make serious money?
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I'd be fascinated to know what's in it for these investment companies. Potentially dwindling broadcast revenue, most clubs running at a loss and a European quasi super league on its way.
How are you meant to make serious money?
The plan is take an underperforming Lower League club give it a quick spit and polish, get it promoted to the Premier League. Sell for vast profit sail off into the sunset.
Now far from me to rain on anyone's parade. But that seems to be the exact same plan the previous owner had when he bought Ipswich Town, in the Championship. £100m of losses latter Ipswich are in League 1 and looking at the Boulevard of Broken dreams that is the Championship that is strewn with the wreckage of countless other similar projects.
Unless these guys have another angle then I struggle to see how it works and I if they were managing my pension fund I would be looking for another fund manger maybe one with a the rights to a roulette system. :D
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It seems to defy logic that so many people who have successfully made a load of shekels are that dumb,
The only ones who I can think of who have made a fist of it are
Parrish at Palace
Thais at Leicester
Burnley and no one else springs to mind
how can clever people be so daft ?
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https://twitter.com/IpswichTown/status/1381967501307781127 (https://twitter.com/IpswichTown/status/1381967501307781127)
The replies to this are superb... Now if only Bristol City would come and headhunt Dowling!
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https://twitter.com/IpswichTown/status/1381967501307781127 (https://twitter.com/IpswichTown/status/1381967501307781127)
The replies to this are superb... Now if only Bristol City would come and headhunt Dowling!
its not going very well at Ipswich, stuffed 3-0 by 2nd bottom AFC wimbledon tonight.
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Peterborough promoted after a 3-3 draw with Lincoln. Lincoln were 3-0 up.
Peterborough with a stoppage time equaliser from the penalty spot. Never a foul in a million years
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Michael Appleton’s Lincoln with one foot at Wembley? Beat Sunderland 2-0 at Sincil Bank last night.
Lincoln were excellent - energetic, in your face and play some good stuff in the right areas. 100 goals they’ve scored this season.
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Michael Appleton’s Lincoln with one foot at Wembley? Beat Sunderland 2-0 at Sincil Bank last night.
Lincoln were excellent - energetic, in your face and play some good stuff in the right areas. 100 goals they’ve scored this season.
Is that in all competitions as they only scored 69 in the league after 46 games? They conceded 50 in the league too despite all the clean sheets Palmer kept.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/league-one/table
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Is that in all competitions as they only scored 69 in the league after 46 games? They conceded 50 in the league too despite all the clean sheets Palmer kept.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/league-one/table
Yup, across all competitions
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Sunderland in league one for a fourth successive season
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Sunderland in league one for a fourth successive season
do we have to watch another series of self flaggelation ??? I know there is an off button !
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Sunderland, Ipswich, Charlton, Sheff Wed, Bolton and Portsmouth all in the third tier. Imagine if Derby had gone down as well? It already arguably contains the biggest names it has ever contained together in one season, had Derby gone down as well then the average attendance record may have been under threat. Some sides there who really are naturally second tier or above sides.
It must be lousy supporting a few of those sides right now. We were always the big fish in a small pond when we spent two years there, but now there seem to be a lot more. At least 3-4 of those sides will still be there in 2022-23, quite likely even more. I really hope we avoid that fate.
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Sunderland, Ipswich, Charlton, Sheff Wed, Bolton and Portsmouth all in the third tier - even Wigan at a push. Imagine if Derby had gone down as well? It already arguably contains the biggest names it has ever contained together in one season, had Derby gone down as well then the average attendance record may have been under threat. Some sides there who really are naturally second tier or above sides.
It must be lousy supporting a few of those sides right now. We were always the big fish in a small pond when we spent two years there, but now there seem to be a lot more. At least 3-4 of those sides will still be there in 2022-23, quite likely even more. I really hope we avoid that fate.
Should be remembered it's far from the end of the world, Man City, Leicester, Southampton, Wolves, Norwich, Brighton, Watford, Sheffield United, Bournemouth and Fulham have all been in League 1 in the last 23 years.
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I think in many cases it forces the reset that is necessary to kick-start a new era in a club. Clear the deadwood etc.
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Lincoln winning 0-1 but it seems all Blackpool.
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1-1 now
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Palmer best at near post by looks of it
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Palmer best at near post by looks of it
Terrible goalkeeping
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Palmer certainly should have saved it !
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Blackpool promoted!. Lincoln 0 shots on target in 95 minutes.
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Blackpool promoted!. Lincoln 0 shots on target in 95 minutes.
Quick get their manager ???
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Christmas presents sorted .... Blackpool Rock 🤣😜
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Blackpool promoted!. Lincoln 0 shots on target in 95 minutes.
Hopefully that ends all talk of Appleton!
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Good away weekend if we get Blackpool when the weathers nice at least!
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Thought it was a decent game. Blackpool a good mix between attacking threat and organisational solidity.
Lincoln sat off a bit after the early lead. Played better second half with one or two guilty of over playing when they should have got shots off. Morton missed a good headed chance but he was being sandwiched between two defenders who both made contact with him. The zero shots on target shouldn't reflect too heavily on their approach or the manager.
Palmer, probably should have saved it....it did swerve quite a bit late after going through defenders legs - almost as though there was slight deflection but don't think there was....let's not write him off just yet.
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Bloody awful refereeing from Bobby Madley in the league 2 play off final. Why was a Premier league ref in charge anyway?
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Shocking penalty decision, minimal contact outside the area and the player launched himself into the area!! Where was VAR when it's needed? BTW I like Newport, and I hate VAR!
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It’s outrageous that VAR was not in use for a game of such importance. If it had been the Morecambe keeper would have been sent off in the first half and a penalty awarded to Newport. The late Morecambe penalty award would also have been overruled. Newport can justifiably claim that they were robbed,
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Shocking penalty decision, minimal contact outside the area and the player launched himself into the area!! Where was VAR when it's needed? BTW I like Newport, and I hate VAR!
Less VAR.. better refs. How short are some people’s memories. We need to learn from the Europa Final. That’s that’s the benchmark.
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Pompey Under 18 squad whatsapp chat leaked, pompey launch investigation.
Offensive racist material on the link, don't click if you don't want to see it.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6QUfcvWQAE2vfB?format=jpg&name=medium (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6QUfcvWQAE2vfB?format=jpg&name=medium)
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I was asking my Ipswich STH mate how the ex Albion lads were doing,
He said Edwardes is good for 45 mins and fades badly thereafter, while Harper had a great first game but has done little since, his view is loads of potential but not going to set the world on fire due to fitness and application.
Pretty disappointing at that level I feel.
Why don't our kids kick on? why does it seem they dont strive for improvement? Too comfortable in the academy? No need to be top level anymore as rewards are great enough even at League 1 level? Is it just a glass ceiling at championship now (imports).
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Seems to have gone under the radar on here, but Saido scored for Sheff Wed on Saturday.
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Kane Wilson seems to be doing well at Forest Green Rovers, scored on Saturday and has provided a few assists too.
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Didn't realise Leko was back at Charlton. What a strange career he's having.
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Didn't realise Leko was back at Charlton. What a strange career he's having.
Think he is dropping down the leagues now. Will forge a career around the lower levels though
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Harper and Edwards are bench players for Ipswich and Louie Barry can't get in the squad yet that they are massively underachieving on paper in 19th place.
I thought Harper and Edwards would do well at that level and be starters at least.
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Harper and Edwards are bench players for Ipswich and Louie Barry can't get in the squad yet that they are massively underachieving on paper in 19th place.
I thought Harper and Edwards would do well at that level and be starters at least.
Edwards has been out with a groin injury, only just returned to the squad.
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Edwards has been out with a groin injury, only just returned to the squad.
Ahh cheers Dan, saw he was on bench on Saturday and not many appearances to his name.
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Darren Moore getting pelters on the Wednesday forums.. good chunk of them want him gone..
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Darren Moore getting pelters on the Wednesday forums.. good chunk of them want him gone..
Is he still doing the playing it out from the back stuff do you know?
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Darren Moore getting pelters on the Wednesday forums.. good chunk of them want him gone..
Surely it’s all Graeme Jones’s fault. :D
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Is he still doing the playing it out from the back stuff do you know?
Yes mate - it’s a slow, ponderous playing out from the back. They’re not very good at it.
Play out from the back and get robbed Or it’s six passes around the back before the keeper hoofs it.
He seems to have stockpiled the club on wingers and uses a system that doesn’t feature any!
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Yes mate - it’s a slow, ponderous playing out from the back. They’re not very good at it.
Play out from the back and get robbed Or it’s six passes around the back before the keeper hoofs it.
He seems to have stockpiled the club on wingers and uses a system that doesn’t feature any!
He deserves the sack then. I don't think he will ever learn. His arrogance around it when he was in charge of us took the mick.
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.......He seems to have stockpiled the club on wingers and uses a system that doesn’t feature any!
Just had a flashback to the start of last season....... I can feel a migraine coming on :-X .
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Ipswich Town Football Club can confirm that manager Paul Cook has been relieved of his duties.
We thank Paul for his efforts and wish him the very best going forward.
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I'm surprised Cook hasn't done well at Ipswich. He seemed a really under rated manager who achieved success on small budgets,but his time at Ipswich has been awful. Another lifeline for 3 ex baggies though in Edwards, Harper and Barry. All of them seem to have been written off which wasn't a good sign.
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Alarming looking at the league 1 table today.
7th, Sunderland
8th, Sheff Wed
9th, Ipswich
10th, Bolton
11th, Portsmouth
16th, Charlton
None of the divisions big sides currently in the play off places and all look out of contention for the automatics.
It shows just how hard it is becoming to get out of that division. Sunderland are in their 4th season there, Ipswich in their 3rd, while Pompey, Charlton and Bolton are becoming semi permanent league 1 clubs the amount of time there are spending there. Huge clubs for that level.
I really hope if we are going to toil this next couple of years that we can avoid relegation to that division.
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Alarming looking at the league 1 table today.
7th, Sunderland
8th, Sheff Wed
9th, Ipswich
10th, Bolton
11th, Portsmouth
16th, Charlton
None of the divisions big sides currently in the play off places and all look out of contention for the automatics.
It shows just how hard it is becoming to get out of that division. Sunderland are in their 4th season there, Ipswich in their 3rd, while Pompey, Charlton and Bolton are becoming semi permanent league 1 clubs the amount of time there are spending there. Huge clubs for that level.
I really hope if we are going to toil this next couple of years that we can avoid relegation to that division.
That is entirely up to our owner. No investment and we go down a league means more money lost for him!
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That is entirely up to our owner. No investment and we go down a league means more money lost for him!
Any investment would likely be funded by a stadium sale or something equally repugnant. I’d just be happy with better decisions and getting our act together behind the scenes.
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Bradford City Tweeted
BREAKING NEWS We are delighted to announce the appointment of Mark Hughes as our new first-team manager - on a deal until the summer of 2024!
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Bradford City Tweeted
BREAKING NEWS We are delighted to announce the appointment of Mark Hughes as our new first-team manager - on a deal until the summer of 2024!
He's the only one of the British old guard that hasn't graced our door yet..
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He's the only one of the British old guard that hasn't graced our door yet..
Will probably be sacked by Bradford 31.05
Appointed new WBA manager 01.06 ;D
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He's the only one of the British old guard that hasn't graced our door yet..
Those last three letters loomed ominously large as I read them........
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He's the only one of the British old guard that hasn't graced our door yet..
You have forgotten Colin
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That is entirely up to our owner. No investment and we go down a league means more money lost for him!
There is no lack of "investment" in those clubs listed above my guess is the owners are collectively stuck for £500m over and above whatever they spent on the purchases. Two of those clubs have gone into administration and frankly were it not for the goodwill of creditors would have been liquidated.
Yes there is always a downward spiral available and the old school of British Management's (apologies to Messrs Keane, O'Neil and McCarthy) fingerprints are all over the crime scene. Either wracking up the debt in the good times or being inept in the bad times.
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Bradford City Tweeted
BREAKING NEWS We are delighted to announce the appointment of Mark Hughes as our new first-team manager - on a deal until the summer of 2024!
Excellent appointment for Bradford and a brave decision by Hughes. Hughes knows if he does a job he is back in the shop window so had to take this job otherwise it’s retirement.
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went to watch the Exeter v Swindon game last night, Exeter won 3-1. its difficult to get enthused when its not your first team love but it felt great walking away from a stadium having cheering on the team that won. i honestly cant remember the last time i saw albion win in the flesh, 2015 i think, the year i stopped renewing after 30 odd years.my two games this season so far huddersfield away and Boro at home. up the Grecians for promotion
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I like the mini fan zone outside the ground at Exeter. Also heard the terrace there is the biggest single year standing terrace in England. Not quite the Dortmund South terrace but it will do.
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I like the mini fan zone outside the ground at Exeter. Also heard the terrace there is the biggest single year standing terrace in England. Not quite the Dortmund South terrace but it will do.
i enjoyed myself that much i will be back on Saturday. yes a great area outside to enjoy pre match and they make some noise on the big bank
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Scored a hat-trick today 12March for Sheffield Wednesday!
Can’t believe it!
First hat- trick of his dismal career.
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Scored a hat-trick today 12March for Sheffield Wednesday!
Can’t believe it!
First hat- trick of his dismal career.
I was going to say you had been on the beer ;D. Despite that i still checked!
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Think he has a whopping 6 goals this season now.
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Scored a hat-trick today 12March for Sheffield Wednesday!
Can’t believe it!
First hat- trick of his dismal career.
Didn't he score 4 against Gateshead in the FA Cup game in 2015?
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Didn't he score 4 against Gateshead in the FA Cup game in 2015?
yes he did, got criticised by a few supporters for not celebrating I seem to remember.
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Didn't he score 4 against Gateshead in the FA Cup game in 2015?
Yes, but yesterday was his first league hat-trick.
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Yes, but yesterday was his first league hat-trick.
The post from TheBaggieMan, didn't provide that context 8)
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I’ve watched the last three or four Wednesday games and hes been very good. Certainly looks much fitter than he did a few months ago and his performances are testament to that. Maybe Moore is the man who can get the best out of him?
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I’ve watched the last three or four Wednesday games and hes been very good. Certainly looks much fitter than he did a few months ago and his performances are testament to that. Maybe Moore is the man who can get the best out of him?
I am very pleased to hear that Liam, I hope he can go on to enjoy the rest of his career.
Who knows , he may be playing against us next season. I don't think he got the best of support from the club, or his representatives, after Levy messed with his head.
We missed out on a top striker there that's for sure.
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He's 28 and in the 3rd division, The rapidly approaching end of your career must be a salutory thing, it might be the one thing which will motivate him to try and fulfill some of his potential before he becomes another - Frances Jeffers - who??
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good look to my second team tonight Exeter City, a win tonight secures promotion. i will be there for some cheer. up the Grecians
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congratulations Exeter on Promotion, lets now see you win the league. season ticket for next season sorted. it was a no brainer after my first love WBA couldn't be arsed
Look forward to seeing the likes of Derby etc at St James Park in the new season and 8k capacity local vocals cheering the Grecians on. a stadium with an atmosphere, bliss
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congratulations Exeter on Promotion, lets now see you win the league. season ticket for next season sorted. it was a no brainer after my first love WBA couldn't be arsed
Look forward to seeing the likes of Derby etc at St James Park in the new season and 8k capacity local vocals cheering the Grecians on. a stadium with an atmosphere, bliss
Glory hunter.
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Glory hunter.
ahah :D. it helps the stadium being a couple of miles down the road
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Micheal Appleton has left Lincoln City by mutual consent. Fans aren't happy but not surprised either, apparently fallings out between board and Appy over budget and how it was spent.
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We moan about how our club is doing!, try being and Oldham fan ;D
Oldham Athletic's last 28 seasons..
Promotions - 0
Relegations - 4
Cup Finals - 0
Play-Off Finals - 0
Bottom-half finishes - 23
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We moan about how our club is doing!, try being and Oldham fan ;D
Oldham Athletic's last 28 seasons..
Promotions - 0
Relegations - 4
Cup Finals - 0
Play-Off Finals - 0
Bottom-half finishes - 23
And founder members of the Premier league :o
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Surprised to hear MK dons stadium holds 30k
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congratulations Exeter on Promotion, lets now see you win the league. season ticket for next season sorted. it was a no brainer after my first love WBA couldn't be arsed
Look forward to seeing the likes of Derby etc at St James Park in the new season and 8k capacity local vocals cheering the Grecians on. a stadium with an atmosphere, bliss
Plymouth will be looking at the Devon Derby, which is always tasty. Their season tickets cost more than ours, which I find baffling. I only live a couple of miles from Argle
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congratulations Exeter on Promotion, lets now see you win the league. season ticket for next season sorted. it was a no brainer after my first love WBA couldn't be arsed
Look forward to seeing the likes of Derby etc at St James Park in the new season and 8k capacity local vocals cheering the Grecians on. a stadium with an atmosphere, bliss
WBA 6 Exeter 3
Our first ever game in the old Div 3
I was there as a 12 year old
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There is a CB playing for Wycombe having an absolute stormer regardless of result he needs looking at ! Surname is Stewart I believe
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Good luck tomorrow night to Darren Moore, make those makems managed by gollum, lose the "precious" again.
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There is a CB playing for Wycombe having an absolute stormer regardless of result he needs looking at ! Surname is Stewart I believe
is that the soon to be 30 year old (in September) Anthony Stewart? anyway, don't we have enough CBs?
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WBA 6 Exeter 3
Our first ever game in the old Div 3
I was there as a 12 year old
yes remember it well
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Really pleased for Forest Green, glad they won the title after storming the league for so long as it looked at the end like they may finish second to Exeter.
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How gutted would you be as a Northampton fan, win on Saturday 3-1 away at Barrow, but still missed out on promotion as Bristol Rovers won 7-0. Rovers had not been in the top 3 for 45 matches and 87 minutes of the 46 match season!!! :o
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My home town club Wycombe Wanderers in the Play Offs, and would have mixed feelings if they got promoted. I didn't really enjoy the previous encounters between Albion and Wycombe as there was some split loyalty. It feels better for me when Albion stay in the higher division.
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I wonder if Sheff Wed will give Moore another season?
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I wonder if Sheff Wed will give Moore another season?
I think they will. Chansiri tends to stand by his managers.
They’ve been excellent since Christmas and has earned another shot considering the basket case of a club he inherited.
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Sunderland deservedly 1-0 up in Play Off Final. At least they are trying to play football.
Mixed feelings for me as I supported Wycombe when I was in short trousers, but Ainsworth hasn't got much in the way of tactics. Just pump it high into the box every time even though they are losing every header.
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Absolute state of Ainsworth. He actually very clearly thinks he looks cool. He doesn't, he looks like a scruffy middle aged woman with greasy hair and a 60 a day fag habit.
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'Alex Neil's Sunderland' return to the Championship following their 2-0 victory over the scruffy looking middle aged woman's Wycombe Wanderers.
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Deserved win for Sunderland. I still think of Wycombe as a big amateur club.
What I don't get is all the fuss being made about the 3rd placed team in League 1. Massive silver cup, presentation in royal box, national anthem, meeting loads of 'dignataries'. Is such a fuss made of the 2nd placed team?
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Deserved win for Sunderland. I still think of Wycombe as a big amateur club.
What I don't get is all the fuss being made about the 3rd placed team in League 1. Massive silver cup, presentation in royal box, national anthem, meeting loads of 'dignataries'. Is such a fuss made of the 2nd placed team?
Did you think the same way when we finished fourth and beat third placed Port Vale in the play off final at the 'real' Wembley ;D ?
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Did you think the same way when we finished fourth and beat third placed Port Vale in the play off final at the 'real' Wembley ;D ?
Yeah, that's bringing personal emotions into it. But if you look at it objectively, it makes it look like the third placed team has out performed the second or even the champions.
Maybe some players would swap being first or second for a day out at Wembley.
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Absolute state of Ainsworth. He actually very clearly thinks he looks cool. He doesn't, he looks like a scruffy middle aged woman with greasy hair and a 60 a day fag habit.
Blimey showing my age, but my first instinct on meeting him would be to say, get your haircut son! But i don't rate him as a manager either. Its all about passion and creating what he calls a 'rock and roll' atmosphere. Tactically, its very basic old school football that his teams play.
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Blimey showing my age, but my first instinct on meeting him would be to say, get your haircut son! But i don't rate him as a manager either. Its all about passion and creating what he calls a 'rock and roll' atmosphere. Tactically, its very basic old school football that his teams play.
He dresses likes his tactics must be a first or linked. He was probably a Rocker/Goth growing up
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He dresses likes his tactics must be a first or linked. He was probably a Rocker/Goth growing up
As he plays in a rock band, I think that makes him still a rocker.
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As he plays in a rock band, I think that makes him still a rocker.
Well Yes it does
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Walsall Football Club announces new Ownership
Good luck to the "Saddlers" lets hope it the beginning of a successful period for the club
https://www.saddlers.co.uk/news/2022/june/walsall-football-club-announces-new-ownership
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Walsall Football Club announces new Ownership
Good luck to the "Saddlers" lets hope it the beginning of a successful period for the club
https://www.saddlers.co.uk/news/2022/june/walsall-football-club-announces-new-ownership
“We are honored to become a part of the community of Walsall, and to play a part in the rich history of this Club,†said Boycott.
He’s obviously never been there...
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Walsall Football Club announces new Ownership
Good luck to the "Saddlers" lets hope it the beginning of a successful period for the club
https://www.saddlers.co.uk/news/2022/june/walsall-football-club-announces-new-ownership
Blimey, depending on how much money they pump in, could Walsall emerge as major rivals of ours?
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I hope they have gotten their Birmingham’s mixed up.
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Buying back the freehold is a good first move,
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John Percy Tweeted
#dcfc administrators Quantuma set to remove Chris Kirchner’s exclusivity amid growing fears over his takeover bid. Kirchner still hopeful of providing funds but Derby will be back on the market soon if any more delays. Pre-season 2 wks away with only 5 players under contract
I wonder if we could persuade Wayne to come and play alongside Daryl? 8)
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Buying back the freehold is a good first move,
Should be a lot easier with the owner still holding shares. If Birmingham City find themselves in a similar position I suspect it will be a much harder task.
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Should be a lot easier with the owner still holding shares. If Birmingham City find themselves in a similar position I suspect it will be a much harder task.
Walsall had the air of a basket case for a while. As you suggest, Birmingham City appears to be an entirely different level of basket. From my limited understanding of events there's some very murky goings on over Small Heath way.
We've got problems of our own at the Albion but I'd much prefer our situation to theirs, one we may eventually end up in. If he were still on air Blues would be house regulars on the Jeremy Kyle show. A highly dysfunctional set up.
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season ticket holder at Exeter this season ,live in Exeter you see. great football 7 goals in two games at home. Matt Taylor coach for the future up the Albion
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John Percy Tweeted
Liam Rosenior is no longer the interim manager of Derby, following talks with the board on Tuesday night, but remains on the coaching staff. Derby to make official approach for Rotherham’s Paul Warne, who is the No 1 choice to become permanent manager #dcfc #rufc
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John Percy Tweeted
Paul Warne is set to be the new #dcfc manager. A deal has been agreed with Rotherham, only a few minor details to finalise. #rufc
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quite looking forward to seeing the baggies at St James Park next season
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quite looking forward to seeing the baggies at St James Park next season
What in the FA Cup?
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What in the FA Cup?
you know what i mean kev lol
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big game in Devon on Saturday, come on you Grecians
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Derby miss out the PO.
There is a God.
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Derby miss out the PO.
There is a God.
I feel the same way. I’ve never forgotten how vile they were after the play off final at Wembley, and that turned me from indifference to them into a real dislike.
A less magnanimous group of fans I’ve never seen. And my, they’ve had a terrible time since.
Karma.
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I feel the same way. I’ve never forgotten how vile they were after the play off final at Wembley, and that turned me from indifference to them into a real dislike.
A less magnanimous group of fans I’ve never seen. And my, they’ve had a terrible time since.
Karma.
Spot on
Remember 2 young ladies behind me and my dad as we left Wembley going oh were going to old Trafford and anfield next season....as you say Karma
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Not going well for Big Dave :(
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Getting worse
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Getting worse
Sheffield Wednesday got 96 points
Longest unbeaten record in clubs history
Most away wins in a season ever
Only 6 defeats all season
Top 2 majority of the season including 3 straight months Jan-April
Peterborough finish 19 points behind them having lost 17 games
Thats the play offs!
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Notts County come from behind twice to beat Chesterfield on pens. My County mate will be delighted.
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I fancied Chesterfield to cause an upset, but you can't begrudge Notts County returning to the EFL after finishing with 100+ points and some 20 or so more than their opponents. Welcome back to the world's oldest League club.
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I fancied Chesterfield to cause an upset, but you can't begrudge Notts County returning to the EFL after finishing with 100+ points and some 20 or so more than their opponents. Welcome back to the world's oldest League club.
Agreed. Never a fan of the play offs personally. The top 3 teams over a season are the top 3 teams.
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Agreed. Never a fan of the play offs personally. The top 3 teams over a season are the top 3 teams.
Can honestly say I wasn't too bothered about the team that finished third going up when we beat Port Vale at Wembley. Such a shame ;D .
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Can honestly say I wasn't too bothered about the team that finished third going up when we beat Port Vale at Wembley. Such a shame ;D .
Oh i accept they are here and here to stay but never understood it myself Dan
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Big Dave, what a hero.
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Big Dave, what a hero.
This match is bonkers. Fingers crossed for Big Dave.
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Big Dave is off to Wembley!!!! Brilliant stuff, what a shoot out
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Congrats to Darren Moore, always happy to see him succeed. Bolton are a bit of a 2nd team to me these days so I hope they get through to the final then I’ll feel a little torn.
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Glad sheffield got through. They finished 3rd in their league, just the 19 points ahead of Peterborough! The playoffs are great for drama, but I think the playoffs are so unfair on the team finishing third.
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Glad sheffield got through. They finished 3rd in their league, just the 19 points ahead of Peterborough! The playoffs are great for drama, but I think the playoffs are so unfair on the team finishing third.
If it hadn’t been for the playoffs, tonight’s memorable game would never have happened. I love them.
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What a game that Sheff Weds v Peterboro' game was!!
the highs and lows of football in 1 game
I love the play offs
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Poor , poor 90 mins in the play off final. I’m 50/50 over the sending off but how Barnsley didn’t get a penalty just before is mind boggling !
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Top result for big dave, who we will now see down at the Hawthorns. Great result
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Well done big Dave. You deserve the success
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Really pleased for Big Dave, glad he's got some success and a trophy to his name as a manager.
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Congrats to Sheffield Wednesday on their promotion. A proper football club, not like their noisy neighbours. Very happy for Big Dave. He will get a very warm reception when he visits us next season.
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Sheff weds been the second score I look for each week since DM went there so I enjoyed the last few days
Listening to various interviews with weds players over past 2 weeks they really loyal to Darren. And he comes over really well in his media appearances too. Coming back from 4-0 and 5-4 and then winning at Wembley the manager has to get a LOT of credit...Darren might be heading for great things, certainly hope so
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Congrats to Big Dave and Sheff Wed.
Next season will be a tough slog for them in the champo. Might I be so bold to suggest they bolster their ranks with a former Owls legend by the name of Adam Reach on a 3 year deal.
Would be a dream return
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I think they will finish close to where we finish in 23-24....in mid table
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Reported by multiple sources on Twitter that Reading are expected to enter administration in the next week or so
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Reported by multiple sources on Twitter that Reading are expected to enter administration in the next week or so
Scarily it transpires that the Madjeski (or whatever its called this week), was sold to Renhe Sports
Renhe Sports Management Co Limited is owned directly by Readings new Chinese shareholders.
There is always someone worse off than us ! Not that its much solace.
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They sound like they are going through a hell worse tha. Lai possibly
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In further bad news for Reading there seems to be a deal agreed for a £50m takeover by William Storey, Those of you not familiar with William Storey he is a failed businessman, one of his businesses Rich Energy failed with assets of £1.7k and unsecured debts of £60m. He has been called a liar by a High Court judge and has from time to time popped up as a potential bidder for troubled football clubs.
This won't happen it is a complete waste of everyone's time and is a measure of how desperate Reading's plight is. While we are number of steps away from being in this position ourselves unless we get a serious bid in the next 12 months we will be a lot closer to being the target for absolute chancers such as Storey.
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Joey Barton sacked by Bristol Rovers.
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On Twitter with photographic evidence that one of Mike Ashley's helicopters has landed at the Reading FC ground
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On Twitter with photographic evidence that one of Mike Ashley's helicopters has landed at the Reading FC ground
Reports that it was forced to land due to the weight of it's passenger are said to be wide of the mark.
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Reports that it was forced to land due to the weight of it's passenger are said to be wide of the mark.
😂😂😂
Savage
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Anyone see the Barnsley injury time winner against wycombe ????
Hilarious !
1min 25s on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUSPa0wyV4o
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Anyone see the Barnsley injury time winner against wycombe ????
Hilarious !
1min 25s on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUSPa0wyV4o
Yeah, saw it on the highlights show. The Wycombe manger was really angry; claiming a foul on the keeper! That's never a foul, manager should be having words with his keeper for going down so softly...pathetic.
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Saw that Barnsley one the other night, terrible
However looks at these 3goals conceded by Notts County in 1 game.
https://twitter.com/LowerTiers/status/1730709327009181787?t=QKR387pqEL9nVEwShlnFbQ&s=19
Never seen such awful defending in a professional game.
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Saw that Barnsley one the other night, terrible
However looks at these 3goals conceded by Notts County in 1 game.
https://twitter.com/LowerTiers/status/1730709327009181787?t=QKR387pqEL9nVEwShlnFbQ&s=19
Never seen such awful defending in a professional game.
Cheers Gaz. Just had a traumatic flashback to September 14th 2022 which in turn brought me back to Leicester's second goal yesterday. I might just go back to bed and call it quits for today :'( .
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Cheers Gaz. Just had a traumatic flashback to September 14th 2022 which in turn brought me back to Leicester's second goal yesterday. I might just go back to bed and call it quits for today :'( .
That's a double whammy of diabolical defending that can send anyone over the edge, rest up warm Dan!
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Reading losing to Eastliegh in the FA cup at half time. THeir fans started throwing tennis balls on the pitch around 15 mins as protest at owner.
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Reading losing to Eastliegh in the FA cup at half time. THeir fans started throwing tennis balls on the pitch around 15 mins as protest at owner.
'And they're out!'
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'And they're out!'
They might have it worse than us, not sure though
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This guy was tipped to do well a few years back wasn't he?
@ReadingFC
The club can today confirm Ovie Ejaria has left the club by mutual consent.
We’d like to thank Ovie for his contributions, and wish him well for the rest of his career.
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Troy Deeney moves up from his player coaching role to head coach at Forest Green Rovers as Dave Horseman gets the sack.
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Just seen the footage from Reading FC today. Crazy.
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Troy Deeney moves up from his player coaching role to head coach at Forest Green Rovers as Dave Horseman gets the sack.
Troy Deeney has been sacked just according to Romano
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Troy Deeney has been sacked just according to Romano
Yes, sacked 6 games into his management career! Apparently it was because he laid into his team, said something along the lines of "too many babies". He did admit that he went "too far" with his comments.
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Yes, sacked 6 games into his management career! Apparently it was because he laid into his team, said something along the lines of "too many babies". He did admit that he went "too far" with his comments.
Yeah I saw his comments, they made me laugh but I guess most people won't accept them from a professional manager.
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Yeah I saw his comments, they made me laugh but I guess most people won't accept them from a professional manager.
And therein may lie part of the problem at FGreenRs....... too many 'babies' in the dressing room and not enough grown pronouns. They could clearly do with getting some red meat down their necks. Oh......... ;D .
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And therein may lie part of the problem at FGreenRs....... too many 'babies' in the dressing room and not enough grown pronouns. They could clearly do with getting some red meat down their necks. Oh......... ;D .
That's a very leading comment :D
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That's a very leading comment :D
That wasn't the kind of meat I was referring to but hey ho and whatever floats your boat Gaz'....... :o ;D .
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Nathan Jones who's been gone too long (apparently) is back in the game with League One Charlton Athletic.
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I didn't even know Appy and Big Dave had got the boot.
The love of the game is definitely diminishing.
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Was going to go watch AFC Wimbledon today after our game. It's only a mile away i thought to myself. £27 is the cheapest adult ticket i can see for a L2 game, ridiculous!
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Reading are almost proper screwed.
"John Percy
@JPercyTelegraph
Now up to 18 points deducted for Dai Yongge at #ReadingFC. Two points to be deducted - plus a further two suspended - for persistent non-payment of monies to HMRC. Yongge also fined £100k. New deduction puts them on 36 points, three above the relegation zone. More @TeleFootball"
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Reading are having a near miraculous season to be avoiding the relegation zone with all their issues - 18 points deduction and still 3 points above! This after handicapping themselves by signing David Button as their keeper too.
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Reading are having a near miraculous season to be avoiding the relegation zone with all their issues - 18 points deduction and still 3 points above! This after handicapping themselves by signing David Button as their keeper too.
Their fans dislike him as much as we did if not more
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Their fans dislike him as much as we did if not more
The chairman or buttonfingers ?
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Their fans dislike him as much as we did if not more
That's quite sad at the end of the day he's just a bloke like anyone else trying to make a living I think he tries he just lacks the ability.
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The chairman or buttonfingers ?
They dislike Button and LOATHE their chairman
That's quite sad at the end of the day he's just a bloke like anyone else trying to make a living I think he tries he just lacks the ability.
I think it's a bit more, in his head as well. SHame really but i guess he will play until someone refuses to pay him any longer
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Reading selling their training ground to Wycombe. They are so screwed, i feel so bad for the club
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Reading selling their training ground to Wycombe. They are so screwed, i feel so bad for the club
Chinese owners again. Bizarre, because Wycombe are a smaller club than Reading, and not that long ago were amateur.
Speaking from a Wycombe perspective, it can't be very handy having your training ground 24 miles away from the club's main base. They also invested alot in their current training ground a few years ago. I hope there are no plans to merge the clubs, as both have traditions going back more than 100 years. Don't want another MK Dons scenario.
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Chinese owners again. Bizarre, because Wycombe are a smaller club than Reading, and not that long ago were amateur.
Speaking from a Wycombe perspective, it can't be very handy having your training ground 24 miles away from the club's main base. They also invested alot in their current training ground a few years ago. I hope there are no plans to merge the clubs, as both have traditions going back more than 100 years. Don't want another MK Dons scenario.
Hopefully that brief spurt of Chinese ownership never happens again. It's been a disaster for some
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Hopefully that brief spurt of Chinese ownership never happens again. It's been a disaster for some
One could say they have spunked their money in that brief spurt.
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One could say they have spunked their money in that brief spurt.
After that spurt everyone else has been left to clean things up as well
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Reading selling their training ground to Wycombe. They are so screwed, i feel so bad for the club
I read about this earlier today.
Unbelievable, how a former non league team can now buy the assets of a former Premier league team.
Even sadder though is the fact we rent our training ground because of that you know what peace, when we had the unprecedented wealth of the Premier league money and some were fooled by the stories of the latest hydro pool we bought on the tick.
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A glimmer of hope for Reading!?
James Earnshaw
@james_e1871
🚨EXCLUSIVE🚨
I understand Reading Football Club are in advanced talks with a North American group to purchase the football club and Select Car Leasing Stadium. A deal could be agreed, in principle, and exclusivity signed, by early next week. #readingfc
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Apparently Wycombe have backed out of buying Reading's training ground, at least for the time being. There is a planning condition attached to the site only allowing Reading FC to use it. Wycombe could apply to have it removed, and I can't actually see what planning reason would stop them, but anyway they haven't, probably all for the best, also for Wycombe.
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A glimmer of hope for Reading!?
James Earnshaw
@james_e1871
🚨EXCLUSIVE🚨
I understand Reading Football Club are in advanced talks with a North American group to purchase the football club and Select Car Leasing Stadium. A deal could be agreed, in principle, and exclusivity signed, by early next week. #readingfc
Given how long it took for our change in ownership to go through I wonder how long this one's been bubbling on for.
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Wrexham promoted today. Back to backs for Ryan Reynolds crew.
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Pompey promoted as champs.