[baggiejohn]

Why the sarcasm about Berahino's Mum?

When Berahino had the meeting with JP, it's likely that JP would have invited him to bring a witness to the proceedings, as he doesn't have an agent looking after his interests at the moment, wouldn't his Mum be the obvious choice?

[The Black Pearl]

What are the odds of him signing a new and improved contract in a few weeks /months time?

Its what I expect, 3-4 year deal with a release clause of £25-30 million.

Its fairly obvious now that Berahino had his heart set on a move to Spurs since he got the new agent, he will go in the next 12 months, we just now need to get best value out of the little runt in terms of goals and money.

[B_H_Baggie]

Why the sarcasm about Berahino's Mum?

When Berahino had the meeting with JP, it's likely that JP would have invited him to bring a witness to the proceedings, as he doesn't have an agent looking after his interests at the moment, wouldn't his Mum be the obvious choice?

He does have an agent, he got rid of Aidy Ward and now has the Stellar Group looking after him. I don't know why so many assume he hasn't had any representation all summer.

[skyclad99]

Its what I expect, 3-4 year deal with a release clause of £25-30 million.

Its fairly obvious now that Berahino had his heart set on a move to Spurs since he got the new agent, he will go in the next 12 months, we just now need to get best value out of the little runt in terms of goals and money.

Agree with that. All parties need this for the happy ending.

His mum will be happy too

[baggiejohn]

Its what I expect, 3-4 year deal with a release clause of £25-30 million.

Its fairly obvious now that Berahino had his heart set on a move to Spurs since he got the new agent, he will go in the next 12 months, we just now need to get best value out of the little runt in terms of goals and money.

To be honest, it's essential, we're far too vulnerable at the moment, if his alleged wages of £14k per week are correct.
If we can put him on a contract worth about £40-50k per week, it would almost eliminate an offer for more money.

[stokelad84]

Its what I expect, 3-4 year deal with a release clause of £25-30 million.

Its fairly obvious now that Berahino had his heart set on a move to Spurs since he got the new agent, he will go in the next 12 months, we just now need to get best value out of the little runt in terms of goals and money.

I don't think he will sign a new deal now. If no clubs were willing to pay £25m in the summer window I can't see them offering that much in January.

If somebody offers £18-20m with the majority coming up front I can see the club accepting.

[glosterbaggie]

I don't think he will sign a new deal now. If no clubs were willing to pay £25m in the summer window I can't see them offering that much in January.

If somebody offers £18-20m with the majority coming up front I can see the club accepting.

Depends on what his "performance" on the pitch is like from now on?

[BobTaylor]

Can't see him signing a new deal and I ain't fussed, Get him out of the club.

[VVVAlbion]

Take all that on board, but if WBA freeze him out, we're not going to sell him. It's my bet that WBA will do everything they can to protect the integrity of the Chairman.
I can't see us getting £25million for him now anyway, but we have to get a deal that's seen as a win for the Chairman

Good players will be sold even when not playing or on form.

[1954]

I was being flippant, but........

FC's put players on contracts not only to give the player some security, but also to give the player a value. Berahino's current contract is allegedly £14,000 per week until July 1st 2017. As someone else has said, the players are considered assets of the FC, & it appears that WBAFC capitalize the players wages, and then write down the value over the period of the contract, For example if we give a player a contract worth £40k per week over a 4 year period, the player is worth £8million the first year, £6million the second year and so on.
Based on Berahino's current contract, his value is about £1.4million, however, we were allegedly about to offer him an improved contract, which would probably been equivalant to the Spurs offer, which I understood was around £50k per week & I guess they would have offered him a 4 year deal. So that would have put his value at around £10million. Obviously, these figures only represent the values a buying club would have to pay to buy out the contract, the selling club would add additional values to the transfer fee, depending on "market forces".
Sorry it's a bit long winded, but I just wanted to demonstrate that your argument of a player seeing out his contract just doesn't hold water, if it suits the club to sell it will. It just didn't suit WBAFC to sell at this time, wether, it was the correct decision remains to be seen.

As far as Berahino is concerned, he's not going to be bothered about how much his transfer fee is, but if he can see an increase in wages from £14k per week to £50k per week he's going to want a piece of the action, & I can see why he went into a strop. Personally, I think he went about it totally the wrong way, & caused himself and the FC more problems that it solved.

I don't think wbafc capitalise player's wages. I believe the club only capitalise the transfer fees of the players they buy e.g. if a player is bought for £8m on a 4 year contract the £8m is written off in the Profit & Loss Account at £2m per year. If a player is signed on a free transfer nothing is capitalised

[baggyman68]

He's back on Monday..i wonder if his mom will be in the office with him when Pulis tears him a new one!

[glosterbaggie]

He's back on Monday..i wonder if his mom will be in the office with him when Pulis tears him a new one!

Does not need that.Needs pointing out in a calm way he needs to get his head sorted and performances on pitch on an upward plane as he is going nowhere for 2 years.
His choices are.
1.He does it on £14k a week performs or gets stuck in the reserves.
2.He signs a new contract on £40k a week with a release clause.
Only problem with the latter is if he signs and plays like an ass.

[Droitwich Baggie]

Does not need that.Needs pointing out in a calm way he needs to get his head sorted and performances on pitch on an upward plane as he is going nowhere for 2 years.
His choices are.
1.He does it on £14k a week performs or gets stuck in the reserves.
2.He signs a new contract on £40k a week with a release clause.
Only problem with the latter is if he signs and plays like an ass.

He wont get the move,obviously.
No-one wants to hire a slacker.

[GrGr]

Does not need that.Needs pointing out in a calm way he needs to get his head sorted and performances on pitch on an upward plane as he is going nowhere for 2 years.
His choices are.
1.He does it on £14k a week performs or gets stuck in the reserves.
2.He signs a new contract on £40k a week with a release clause.
Only problem with the latter is if he signs and plays like an ass.

The stupid tweet and recent unbalanced behaviour doesn't exactly strengthen Saido's bargaining position does it. Who would trust him now?

[AlbionFan]

Does not need that.Needs pointing out in a calm way he needs to get his head sorted and performances on pitch on an upward plane as he is going nowhere for 2 years.
His choices are.
1.He does it on £14k a week performs or gets stuck in the reserves.
2.He signs a new contract on £40k a week with a release clause.
Only problem with the latter is if he signs and plays like an ass.

That's his Catch 22

[glosterbaggie]

Then 1. is best let him rot.In 2 years he will be worth feck all but then he was when he came.
Awful man terrible attitude not worth a light.

At the hospital I work at I asked a fellow worker about a "volunteer".They wear red shirts,he is there all day meal times serving patients.
I asked who is this Gentleman.
Told the hospital put him right and wanted to give something back.
Not paid goes in and does it 5 days a week.
Just saying.

[baggiejohn]

I don't think wbafc capitalise player's wages. I believe the club only capitalise the transfer fees of the players they buy e.g. if a player is bought for £8m on a 4 year contract the £8m is written off in the Profit & Loss Account at £2m per year. If a player is signed on a free transfer nothing is capitalised

The transfer fee, as you rightly say is amortised over the duration of the contract. As far as I know, wages have to be identified separately, by player, under the FC's obligations to meet the FFP conditions, & are not listed under "expenses" as they would be in "normal" businesses.

[LiamTheBaggie]

Does not need that.Needs pointing out in a calm way he needs to get his head sorted and performances on pitch on an upward plane as he is going nowhere for 2 years.
His choices are.
1.He does it on £14k a week performs or gets stuck in the reserves.
2.He signs a new contract on £40k a week with a release clause.
Only problem with the latter is if he signs and plays like an ass.

I would hate it if we were to reward him with a new deal given his petulant behaviour.

What sort of message does that send out?

[Yamaka]

Then 1. is best let him rot.In 2 years he will be worth feck all but then he was when he came.
Awful man terrible attitude not worth a light.

At the hospital I work at I asked a fellow worker about a "volunteer".They wear red shirts,he is there all day meal times serving patients.
I asked who is this Gentleman.
Told the hospital put him right and wanted to give something back.
Not paid goes in and does it 5 days a week.
Just saying.

Having been engaged in volunteer work myself over the past ten years or more I have come to the following conclusion. Who is it that benefits from such virtuous behaviour? The answer is the agency that doesn't employ them! Also, many of the people working in this environment of slave labour are not of white Anglo Saxon decent.

The way to show gratitude to people who actually give a damn is to give a damn yourself.

[glosterbaggie]

I would hate it if we were to reward him with a new deal given his petulant behaviour.

What sort of message does that send out?

I agree Liam.
I would do option 1 and see how how he does? At the end of I want best for WBA as you.
Another Luke Moore ?

[LiamTheBaggie]

I agree Liam.
I would do option 1 and see how how he does? At the end of I want best for WBA as you.
Another Luke Moore ?

In fairness I think he has the hard work and ability that Luke Moore didn't have.

No doubting that Berahino works hard to improve his game

he's just a complete and utter ****

[glosterbaggie]

Having been engaged in volunteer work myself over the past ten years or more I have come to the following conclusion. Who is it that benefits from such virtuous behaviour? The answer is the agency that doesn't employ them! Also, many of the people working in this environment of slave labour are not of white Anglo Saxon decent.

The way to show gratitude to people who actually give a damn is to give a damn yourself.

Ten years St John

[glosterbaggie]

In fairness I think he has the hard work and ability that Luke Moore didn't have.

No doubting that Berahino works hard to improve his game

he's just a complete and utter ****

To himself as us! He needs to work as others before him have done.

[Yamaka]

Ten years St John

I knew there was a reason I had time for you  I take it that you get my point then.

[glosterbaggie]

I knew there was a reason I had time for you  I take it that you get my point then.

Yes.There should not have been a need for me.
An the upside it added to my CV