[zippyandbungle]

right im going to be very controversial
would he get as much stick if he was white ??

I think its a fair question..

[Hull Baggie]

right im going to be very controversial
would he get as much stick if he was white ??

I think its a fair question..

yes he would from me. Couldn't give a sh*t about the colour of his skin it's his attitude that narks me.

Just re-read my response and want to add:

Plenty of our white players get stick, don't think the stick he gets has anything to do with colour.

[BB74]

right im going to be very controversial
would he get as much stick if he was white ??

I think its a fair question..

What's his skin colour got to do with anything?

[sconesy]

What's his skin colour got to do with anything?

Agree, pathetic. Race should never be an equation. Most of us have grown up 'clubbing, in Brum - to the most diverse and respected scene anywhere in the UK. We should be very proud and embrace our diversity on all levels. I can tell you that we are the envy of many major cities and cultures.

[KnaveofAlbion]

right im going to be very controversial
would he get as much stick if he was white ??

I think its a fair question..

Really suprised you asked that Zippy.

I honestly think race just isn't an issue for 90% of people now. Easy for me to say as a white male maybe and maybe i'm just being very naive. But i think Saido is being judged on his actions, same as if he was called Sam and was ginger.

[saml30]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/west-bromwich-albion/11578182/How-Saido-Berahino-went-from-from-Burundi-to-West-Brom-and-why-hes-no-bad-boy.html

Great article IMO

[fatboy_coach]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/west-bromwich-albion/11578182/How-Saido-Berahino-went-from-from-Burundi-to-West-Brom-and-why-hes-no-bad-boy.html

Great article IMO

I agree, cracking article. With the forming of his foundation and the sense he talks in this article it looks like he's turned a corner, long may it continue. 

[WBArgo]

I agree, cracking article. With the forming of his foundation and the sense he talks in this article it looks like he's turned a corner, long may it continue. 

He likes to score against Man Utd too here's hoping wink wink

[zippyandbungle]

Really suprised you asked that Zippy.

I honestly think race just isn't an issue for 90% of people now. Easy for me to say as a white male maybe and maybe i'm just being very naive. But i think Saido is being judged on his actions, same as if he was called Sam and was ginger.

I really believe that the black players get more (unfair) stick than the white players,I maybe wrong but it's how i see it
And I am a white male and not a raving lefty

[WBArgo]

I really believe that the black players get more (unfair) stick than the white players,I maybe wrong but it's how i see it
And I am a white male and not a raving lefty

I completely disagree; off the top of my head the players I can think of who get the most stick over the past 5-10 years have been:

- Suarez (foreign)
- Terry (white English)
- Barton (white English)
- Ashley Cole (mixed race, English)

I genuinely can't think of any black players who get more abuse than white/other nationalities.

[kris_boing]

right im going to be very controversial
would he get as much stick if he was white ??

I think its a fair question..

It's got absolutely nothing to do with the countless misdemeanors then? Nope it's just because he's black.

[Standaman]

The narrative is a simple one from a media point of view these are young high profile athletes who earn small fortunes who are built up as role models and when they do stupid stuff it gets reported. I don't think there is a racial element. Wilshere's off field indiscretions (smoking) have been heavily reported, I shudder to think what the headlines would look like for Harry Kane if got himself into the situations that Saido has in the last twelve months.

If players conduct themselves in a professional manner there is no story when they don't it is a story. It really doesn't matter about the player's race.

[Wigmore]

It's got absolutely nothing to do with the countless misdemeanors then? Nope it's just because he's black.

Don't you  think the use of 'countless' is over the top? Not a favourite player then?

[kris_boing]

No I don't and no he's not.

[geoff]

Well done young man & i hope its a resounding success 

[zippyandbungle]

I completely disagree; off the top of my head the players I can think of who get the most stick over the past 5-10 years have been:

- Suarez (foreign)
- Terry (white English)
- Barton (white English)
- Ashley Cole (mixed race, English)

I genuinely can't think of any black players who get more abuse than white/other nationalities.

I actually meant in terms of our players
for instance
Berahino ..caught speeding and sucking helium (roughly speaking) and now  apparently he is billy big balls, got an attitude, doesn't deserve the shirt etc , in contrast Bednar actually done for real drugs and no one really said too much??
Odemwingie , practically created a period of continual downfall of the dingles on his own , as well as scoring umpteen goals for us in the premiership but because he was openly at another club on transfer day (as was fletcher to us) then he is satan ??
brown ..."he aye wuth 10million" etc etc etc
Vic ...He aye fit etc etc etc

[saml30]

Anyone going to give the kid some credit for his performance this evening? Worked hard on little to no service and showed some good maturity and work ethic and had some good and important touches

[Hunnington Baggie]

I actually meant in terms of our players
for instance
Berahino ..caught speeding and sucking helium (roughly speaking) and now  apparently he is billy big balls, got an attitude, doesn't deserve the shirt etc , in contrast Bednar actually done for real drugs and no one really said too much??
Odemwingie , practically created a period of continual downfall of the dingles on his own , as well as scoring umpteen goals for us in the premiership but because he was openly at another club on transfer day (as was fletcher to us) then he is satan ??
brown ..."he aye wuth 10million" etc etc etc
Vic ...He aye fit etc etc etc

What's Brunt's excuse? He's the one who's got it in the neck the most over by far the most amount of time.

[fatboy_coach]

Anyone going to give the kid some credit for his performance this evening? Worked hard on little to no service and showed some good maturity and work ethic and had some good and important touches

I said in game that he'd done a job for the team, he was one player of ours that could keep the ball when surrounded by Red. A very mature, selfless display tonight. Hopefully with Newcastles defensive issues he may be able to a grab a goal next week.

At least giving away the pen and then the follow up free kick means TP might rule him out for playing at the back 

[darbolina]

6 months ago he couldn't be relied on as a lone frontman but now you can rely on him. His hold up play and movement has improved. The goals will come back when we have some players with pace and power to support him post summer. He's the only striker we should keep anyway........

[tommcneill]

worked tirelessly

fair play to the lad real team performance that was from Saido

[Atomic]

6 months ago he couldn't be relied on as a lone frontman but now you can rely on him. His hold up play and movement has improved. The goals will come back when we have some players with pace and power to support him post summer. He's the only striker we should keep anyway........

Agreed.

Messi wouldn't score 25 goals a season if he had no support.

Put Saido in a team that creates chances and he will score goals. He is a human being not a magician.

[WBArgo]

I actually meant in terms of our players
for instance
Berahino ..caught speeding and sucking helium (roughly speaking) and now  apparently he is billy big balls, got an attitude, doesn't deserve the shirt etc , in contrast Bednar actually done for real drugs and no one really said too much??
Odemwingie , practically created a period of continual downfall of the dingles on his own , as well as scoring umpteen goals for us in the premiership but because he was openly at another club on transfer day (as was fletcher to us) then he is satan ??
brown ..."he aye wuth 10million" etc etc etc
Vic ...He aye fit etc etc etc

Our own players get stick if they deserve it, for instance Brown interacts well with the fans, he may be a bit rubbish but he's also well liked.

Berahino was caught speeding massively over the limit, Odemwingie **** on us as fans and as a club, and Anichebe gets the same treatment that the likes of Brunt, Ridgewell etc got simply for being poor at times.

[mateinone]

I actually meant in terms of our players
for instance
Berahino ..caught speeding and sucking helium (roughly speaking) and now  apparently he is billy big balls, got an attitude, doesn't deserve the shirt etc , in contrast Bednar actually done for real drugs and no one really said too much??
Odemwingie , practically created a period of continual downfall of the dingles on his own , as well as scoring umpteen goals for us in the premiership but because he was openly at another club on transfer day (as was fletcher to us) then he is satan ??
brown ..."he aye wuth 10million" etc etc etc
Vic ...He aye fit etc etc etc

This whole post is offensive to suggest that supporters back or don't back players at this club due to color.
Odemwingie went out of his way to create and foster a division between himself and us, to compare him being at QPR on transfer day to Fletcher is just incredibly deceptive, PO had lost 90% or more of the fans I would think by the time he did leave, I wanted to like him, he was very good on the ball, had a great shot and wasn't afraid to unleash, but... he was an absolute twonk and that had nothing to do with his skin color.
We all want to like Berahino also, but he tests patience because his attitude off the club is that off a selfish player and not one of a hard working professional and he tests that way people feel when he openly states he wants to leave.
Players are judged on performance on and (whether people like it or not in the modern world) off the pitch. Not on skin color.

[tuamigos]

I think all we ask of the players that wear the shirt is to treat the  club and fans with a bit of respect instead of doing the billy big balls like some of them do