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General Football & Sports / McCoys Premier League Darts 2013
« on: February 07, 2013, 07:51:38 PM »
Anybody watching or anybody going to any of the events?

Change of platform for this year with ten players included replacing the 8. Robert Thornton, Wes Newton and Michael Van Gerwen make their Premier League debuts.

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General Football & Sports / Paul Gascoigne
« on: February 04, 2013, 08:54:17 PM »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/feb/04/paul-gascoigne-hospital-addiction-treatment?CMP=twt_gu

The former England footballer Paul Gascoigne has been admitted to a treatment centre in the United States.

The alcoholic former Tottenham Hotspur, Lazio and Newcastle United midfielder, 45, has "willingly" been admitted to an unnamed centre, his management company said on Monday night.

The move came after fears about the state of Gascoigne's health were renewed last week when he appeared unwell and shaking during a charity appearance in Northampton where he broke down sobbing on stage in front of a room full of fans.

In a statement GamePlan Solutions said Gascoigne had been touched by the help and support shown by fans and figures within football over the past few days: "Alcoholic Paul Gascoigne has been experiencing a tough time of late. He has been asking for help and has willingly been admitted to a treatment centre in America.

"He has complex issues that are currently being dealt with by professionals. Paul has been extremely touched and overwhelmed by the generous offers of help and support over the past few days.

"He is motivated to fully understand and control his addiction problem under guidance."


Hopefully he can make a recovery. I saw the video of him at the charity event and it was quite a struggle to watch. Certainly an unwell person and I hope he makes a quick recovery. Unfortunately, I was never able to see him play.

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General Football & Sports / Gordan Strachan appointed Scotland boss
« on: January 15, 2013, 05:00:05 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21023913

Gordon Strachan has been confirmed as the new manager of Scotland.

The former Celtic and Middlesbrough boss replaces Craig Levein, who was sacked in November.

Strachan has signed a contract that will cover the remainder of the current World Cup qualifying campaign and the Euro 2016 qualifiers.

"I'm very proud but also my family are proud. The time is right for me to be able to take a job like this," he said after his appointment was announced.

"There'll be rough times but I hope there'll be good times too.

"Every club you go to there's always challenges but this is the first time the challenge is on behalf of a nation.

"If you can be successful you can make a nation happy and make a nation proud and that is the priority for me to be able to do that with help from other people.

"I have the experience, I like working with people, I like dealing with people and I like trying to make people better."

The 55-year-old has been out of management since leaving Boro in October 2010.


I noticed he's been up to his sarcastic ways as well and he's only been in the job two minutes.

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Reporter: This might sound like a daft question, but you'll be happy to get your first win under your belt, won't you?

Strachan: You're right. It is a daft question. I'm not even going to bother answering that one. It is a daft question, you're spot on there.

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Reporter: Can I have a quick word Gordon?

WGS: Velocity.

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General Football & Sports / George Best
« on: January 08, 2013, 02:39:26 PM »
Was watching a documentary on him last night and was amazed really. I've always been fond of him with the clips I've seen of him but last night showed to me how easy it was for a star to become side tracked.

This might be a question for the older members of this forum, but was he really that good and is he really one of the best? I'd have loved to have seen him play.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / A 2012 evaluation
« on: December 30, 2012, 04:21:28 PM »
So then, Saturdays defeat rounds off what has been a very good year for this football club which has been further highlighted by the misery surrounding our fellow Midlands clubs. I don't know about anybody else, but in terms of calendar year, this has been without doubt my greatest 'year' in following Albion which is backed up by us having the best squad of footballers I've ever seen.

So much has changed over the twelve months. I remember towards the start of the year Roy Hodgson was drawing criticisms for our poor home form with fans complaining of a lack of entertainment and to an extent, I was firmly in that package as I thought we were incredibly poor. It started off against Everton with Hodgson's refusal to make any changes in a game which was incredibly dour. In-fact, we made one. A substitution in the 94th minute where Graham Dorrans got a grand total of 10 seconds replacing Chris Brunt who had done some damage to his ankle. Again, January and parts of February received criticism for our style of football until we faced Stoke away which was our first bit of history we corrected. How many years had it been since we last won at Stoke? 28 years or more was it? And in the 90th minute Graham Dorrans corrected that. I remember being on here in the build up to the game and Hodgson was getting some stick for his team selection which saw the re-emergence of Marc Antoine Fortune and Gabriel Tamas starting at right back. Needless to say, it proved to be a masterstroke from Roy as we reverted to the 451 fans has suggested and we controlled large parts of the game and with lady luck on our side we cancelled out that long hideous record against the Potters and notched three points on the board.

In my opinion, I don't know about anybody else, but February was the year which changed our fortunes and certainly gave the club the feel good factor heading into the remaining months of the season. It started with a defeat to Swansea in the snow where for large parts we were second best. Again, Hodgson received more criticism as we headed into the Black Country Derby which changed the seasons of both clubs. We all know what happened, Peter Odemwingie created a bit of history as we stuffed five past the side from Stafford. The manner of the victory and the football we played was incredibly promising and the benchmark for our season. We continued that sizzling performance by sweeping aside Sunderland 4-0 who were in good form under Martin O'Neill and then we swept aside Chelsea with Andre Villas-Boas receiving his P45 from Roman Abramovich. The important thing about that month is that it eased any fears we had about relegation and probably retained our Premier League status at a time where fans were becoming a bit uneasy about our form and the football we played.

The feel good factor saw us beat Liverpool at Anfield for the first time in christ knows how long, if I remember correctly wasn't it so many years to the day since Jeff Astle scored our last winner on the Anfield turf? Well anyway, we weren't particularly brilliant, but it was another stuffing for Dalglish and another away day victory. Although March was disappointing, April proved to be a decent month with victories over QPR, Blackburn and Liverpool and the disappointment of drawing to Aston Villa.

It was then when we knew about Roy Hodgson's departure and we gave him the send off he deserved. I think it's always important we remember the successful work he did in retaining our Premier League status and also taking us to terrority the club had never been before. I was disappointed to see him go but after weeks and weeks and weeks of suggestions we finally got our man in Steve Clarke - regardless of whether he was first choice or not.

The summer window was a success and so was the start of the season with Clarke proving to be quite a dab hand at this managerial lark, in the opening weeks we blew aside both Merseyside teams and also got a well deserved point at Tottenham. From there we've gone from strength to strength with memorable victories against Chelsea and an away win at Sunderland - The Sunderland win being more memorable as it took ourselves to 3rd in the Premier League - Somewhere we'd never been before. 3rd at the end of November!

All that promise and the dreams of Europe started to become only a dream when we suffered defeats to Swansea and Arsenal and our annual defeat to Stoke, some raising question marks of our football which had otherwise been OK up until this month. Still the two wins recently have helped to steady the ship and confirm our status as a top half side going into the new year.

We're currently on 33 points from 20 games. The most we've ever been on at this stage - What a successful and proud year this has been for the club and just to think, it all started with that demolition of Staffordshire.

Have we ever had a better calendar year as a club where we've achieved so much?

Here's to a positive and equally successful 2013!

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/dec/27/sunderland-suspend-fans-standing-up

Sunderland have taped up the seats of fans who refuse to sit down during games at the Stadium of Light.

Supporters of the club who persistently stand during matches have been suspended from using their season tickets. A photo circulated on Twitter shows a seat with a note on it saying: "This season card has been suspended due to persistent standing."

The club has issued a warning on its website about people who break the law on standing during a football match, and insisted it must act to protect the safety and the view of other fans.

It said it has received an "increasing number of complaints", particularly from fans in the South Stand, which say the game is being spoiled by others who stand throughout the 90 minutes.

Thirty-eight fans have been ejected from the Stadium of Light so far, compared to just 20 last season, the club reports.

The club's head of safety and security Paul Weir said: "We certainly don't wish to spoil the enjoyment of any supporters, we want a vibrant lively matchday atmosphere just as much as the fans do, but we also have legal obligations that we must be seen to be adhering to.

"We also have a duty of care to all of our supporters, including elderly and disabled fans who have contacted us very concerned that their enjoyment on a match day is being compromised because people around them stand throughout the game.

"Naturally we want to ensure a safe, comfortable and enjoyable experience for everyone at the Stadium of Light and we'd ask supporters to listen to requests from stewards and help us to eradicate persistent standing for the sake of all fans."

There has been a mixed reaction on the Sunderland fans' Ready to Go online forum, with some welcoming the club's stance but others complaining the move will discourage a noisy atmosphere at the ground.




Absolutely ridiculous. I would hope the Albion wouldn't go to such measures to combat standing. I know there were a few stewards demanding our away support to sit down but we ended up ignoring them and standing for the remainder of the match. Football needs supporters and actions like this will only turn supporters away from the game we love.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / WestBrom.com awards
« on: December 20, 2012, 08:38:50 PM »
Well, with the end of the year approaching us, we'll end it with some light hearted banter. A set of DotCom 2012 awards!

The topic shall be locked so you will need to PM me with your enteries, and I'll give it a week before I display the end results giving you all enough time to get your entries to me.

The categories are as follows

Best Poster -

Most annoying poster -

Best thread -

Worst thread -

Best Post -

Worst Post -

Best International Poster -

Favourite Moderator or member of admin -


All entries will be kept anonymous by myself and you will need to PM with your entries by next Thursday (27th).

I wish you all good luck!  :D

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General Football & Sports / World Championship Darts
« on: December 16, 2012, 11:44:55 PM »
Anybody being watching so far?

No real major shocks apart from Wayne Jones heading out to Jerry Hendricks. Raymond Van Barneveld and Gary Anderson looking impressive in their opening games so far.

Hoping that Gary Anderson or James Wade win the tournament but I don't think either will. Very hard tournament to call at the moment, could name at least ten players that have a chance of winning the tournament which is testament to the quality within the game at the moment.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Albion mourn 'Del'
« on: December 10, 2012, 06:51:38 PM »
Club saddened to hear of the passing of much-loved club masseur

ALBION are saddened to hear of the passing today of club masseur Derrick Jones, aged 64.

‘Del’, as he was affectionately known, had been battling against a serious illness.

He was a much-loved member of the Baggies’ backroom staff, having worked at the Hawthorns since July 2005.

The players wore T-shirts with messages of support for him during the warm-up before the Stoke game last month.

And the club will be paying tribute to ‘Del’ at Sunday’s live TV game against West Ham (ko 4pm).

Our thoughts are with his wife Marion, family and friends at this difficult time.



Rest in Peace, Del.

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General Football & Sports / Sports Personality of the Year Award
« on: November 29, 2012, 12:26:13 PM »
The twelve contenders were drew up the other day so vote for your favourite and a brief explanation as to why would be nice.

I personally would vote for Andy Murray who has had a terrific year. To suffer the Wimbledon heart ache but respond with a Gold and Silver medal at the Olympics followed by the US Open is very impressive and therefore would get my vote. I actually felt unfair leaving the likes of Farrah, Ainslie and Ennis out who have also had tremendous years in their particular sports. All the contenders deserve the accolade and it's unfortunate only one will win.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/sports-personality/20466947

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General Football & Sports / Tottenham fans attacked by Ultras in Rome
« on: November 22, 2012, 11:46:19 PM »
Quite frankly shocking news. I saw a picture of the person earlier on and it was disgusting. I won't be posting it in this thread as it's not something everybody wants to see.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/22/tottenham-supporters-stabbed-rome-lazio?CMP=twt_gu


Tottenham fans attacked by Ultras in Rome ahead of Lazio game

• One supporter seriously injured after being stabbed
• Police increase security ahead of Europa League tie



    Press Association
    guardian.co.uk, Thursday 22 November 2012 12.49 GMT   

Tottenham fans injured in violence in Rome before their Europa League tie with Lazio Link to this video

A Tottenham Hotspur fan has been seriously injured and several others hurt after being attacked by Ultras in Rome. The trouble flared ahead of Thursday night's Europa League game against Lazio in the Italian capital.

The supporters were drinking in the Drunken Ship pub in the historic Campo de Fiori at 1am on Thursday morning when up to 50 attackers – wearing motorcycle helmets and brandishing weapons including knuckle-dusters, broken bottles, and baseball bats – smashed their way in.

Sources named four of the injured as Ashley Mills, Dave Lesley, Stephen Tierney and Christopher Allen. Mr Mills is said to have been stabbed and was in the city's San Camillo Hospital. Two tourists are also thought to have been hurt; police said a Californian and a Bangladeshi were injured.

Rome police said this evening that Mr Mills was "not in danger of death" and would be kept in hospital for observation.

A spokeswoman added: "The person who was most seriously injured is not in danger of death and is resting in hospital until tomorrow. He suffered injuries to his skull and thigh."

The spokeswoman added: "One person was arrested last night and brought in for interview, having been found in possession of drugs in the vicinity of the Campo dei Fiori."

A spokesman for the mayor's office said the attack was "obviously organised". The Italian newspaper La Repubblica reported scenes of "urban warfare" as the Ultras – notorious Italian football thugs – attacked the English fans. The bar was wrecked and one witness told La Repubblica: "We feared the worst."

The landlord Marco Manzi said the Tottenham fans were well behaved before the violence erupted. "The bar was full of about 30 English supporters at 1am," he said. "Most of them were aged between 40 and 50 and they were well behaved.

"Then arrived what I presume were Italian supporters wearing scooter helmets with their faces covered with scarves carrying stones and rocks. They arrived in the pub and they attacked the English supporters.

"Some of the English supporters tried to escape down Via dei Cappellari and it was in this street where one of them was hit by a knife. I think he was quite badly hurt but I don't know any more about him.

"The whole operation from start to finish was over in around 10 minutes. Most of the fans left and the police arrived."

The bar's co-owner Gabriele Cianella added: "There were Tottenham supporters here to celebrate, they were drinking and singing but quietly, so the situation seemed to be under control, but then these people came aggressively and they got inside and they were looking for these English guys, trying to catch them and they started to throw the chairs and tables.

"It is horrible. If you throw stones and knuckle dusters I think you want to hurt someone. There was a lot of blood inside on the floor. Now we also have some blood on the windows. They came here to hurt someone."

A Tottenham statement said: "We understand from local police that nine of our supporters suffered injuries last night following an incident in the city centre. Three of these supporters were taken to hospital for further treatment. We continue to seek further information and are liaising with both Italian and UK police on this matter."

The club has reposted travel advice to fans attending Thursday evening's game, while a spokesman for the Foreign and Commonwealth Office said security would be increased.

He said: "We are in contact with the Italian authorities and the Italian police, who are investigating the incident and have confirmed there will be increased security measures for the game. We have been in contact with one British national and have been updated by hospitals on the conditions of all the others, some of whom have already been released."


I'd read in other newspapers that it was linked to the Jewish element of the Tottenham support.

The brawl reportedly took on anti-Semitic overtones, with witnesses reporting that the Italian hooligans shouted 'Jews' at the Tottenham fans.

Tottenham supporters are often called the 'Yid Army' and the team is known to have a large Jewish fan base from north London. Lazio fans are traditionally right-wing and often use fascist salutes and slogans.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2236739/Tottenham-fans-stabbed-Rome-ahead-Lazio-match.html#ixzz2CzwKtHnD


I wish a speedy recovery to the fans which have been injured.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / WBA Hawthorns Picture - Zoopla
« on: November 20, 2012, 06:45:03 PM »
http://tag.huggity.com/fanpic/028-2012-zoopla-wba-chelsea/app/index.php

The picture of everybody at the game. Good luck finding yourselves!  :)

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General Football & Sports / Scottish Leagues reconstruction
« on: November 14, 2012, 06:01:28 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20329684


SFL clubs propose new three-tier league system in Scotland

The 30 Scottish Football League clubs have unanimously voted to propose a new three-tier league structure of 16, 10 and 16 teams for season 2014-15.

Its top-flight would be called the Premier Division, the second the Championship and the third would be called the First Division.

The plan involves a merger between the SFL and the Scottish Premier League.

SFL chief executive David Longmuir's plan would require agreement from the SPL and the Scottish FA.

 Following a meeting at Hampden, the SFL is also proposing a new format for the Scottish League Cup based on a seeding system similar to the Champions League.

Longmuir's original proposal had raised the possibility of second sides from Celtic and Rangers being added to the bottom tier to take the total to 18 teams.

But a number of clubs had voiced their opposition to the idea ahead of Wednesday's meeting.

The SPL presently has 12 clubs, with their governing body progressing its own plan for a 16-team top flight, although there is also an option of two top leagues of 12.

SPL sources have suggested there is no prospect of the SFL plan receiving the support of the 11 clubs required for such change to be accepted by the present top flight.

But Longmuir argues that the plan would benefit all clubs in the senior Scottish game, with many clubs and fans having espoused the benefits of a return to one league body.

"It involves the merger of the SPL and the SFL coming together to collaborate and work together going forward, which I think would be a good thing for the game," he told BBC Scotland.

"And it involves a governance model which also would provide a balanced governance of the game."

 "It's about how much incremental benefit it can deliver, both commercially, from broadcast and sponsorship revenues, but also in the development of young Scottish talent and also from the impact of the broadcast media, who may well be interested in something that is dynamic."

The SFL plan proposes the introduction of promotion and relegation play-offs involving the top flight.

Teams finishing 15th and 16th would be automatically relegated, being replaced with the Championship title winners and runners-up.

Sides finishing 13th and 14th in the Premier Division would enter play-offs with those finishing third and fourth in the Championship.

There would be automatic relegation for the sides finishing ninth and 10th in the Championship, with a play-off taking place between the side finishing eighth and the sides in third, fourth and fifth in the First Division.

The First Division champions and runners-up would be automatically promoted, while the side finishing bottom would be involved in a play-off to remain with the senior set-up as part of a new pyramid structure.

"It encourages the flow of clubs between the divisions, it encourages change, it encourages refreshment and vibrancy of clubs changing their positions," explained Longmuir.

"But it also accommodates the threat and challenges faced by relegation and what that means financially."


What that means is that the leagues will look like this:


16-team Premier Division
  • Playing 30 games each
  • Two relegation play-off spots
  • Two teams automatically relegated

10-team Championship
  • Playing 36 games each
  • Two automatic promotion spots
  • Two promotion play-off spots
  • Two teams automatically relegated
  • One relegation play-off spot

16-team First Division
  • Playing 30 games each
  • Two automatically promoted
  • Three promotion play-off spots
  • One pyramid relegation play-off spot

Thankfully, both Rangers and Celtic's reserves won't have a spot in the new football league.

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I think we all know the player in question who has apparently 'refused' to wear the poppy. Just wondering what everybody's thoughts on the matter are. Should football players be made to wear the poppy? Sunderland have issued a statement today that they support the rememberance commemorations and that it was purely down to McCleans choice not to wear the poppy.

Is it a lack of knowledge on the players part or should they be allowed to have a choice as to whether they wear the poppy, or should they follow the example of their football club?

The reason branded about as to why McClean 'refused' was due to the Bloody Sunday.

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About themselves.  ::)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20244204

Tottenham have been accused of "insulting people's intelligence" by attempting to justify the chanting of the word "Yid" by their supporters.

The head of the Society of Black Lawyers says he will complain formally to police if Spurs fail to take action within a fortnight to stop the chants.

In a statement, Spurs said their fans used the term as a "defence mechanism" against anti-Semitism from rivals.

But Peter Herbert said this "wouldn't make sense to a six-year-old".

Oldham footballer Dean Furman, who is Jewish, has also told BBC Sport there should be a "zero tolerance" approach and fans using the chant should be immediately thrown out of stadiums.

 However, Piara Powar, executive director of the Football Against Racism in Europe organisation, has criticised Herbert for being naive and questioned whether he properly understands football.

Some Tottenham fans have historically referred to themselves as the "Yid Army", in reference to the club's Jewish supporters.

The term is used in a chant by some fans at White Hart Lane and can often be seen on flags and banners at the ground.

But Herbert told BBC Sport: "Clearly Tottenham have a distance to travel before they learn of the offence that is being caused.

"If you had a group of Afro-Caribbean supporters using the 'N-word', even as a 'defence mechanism', it would clearly be completely unacceptable. There are young supporters present when the chants are used.

"Use of the word, even in this way, could be seen by some as justifying other people using the term."

He has warned the north London club that unless they take action by 20 November, he will report "a racist incident" to the Metropolitan Police.

 Earlier on Wednesday, Spurs released a statement arguing that "real anti-Semitic abuse, such as hissing to simulate the noise of gas chambers, is the real evil and the real offence".

It continued: "Our fans adopted the chant as a defence mechanism in order to own the term and thereby deflect anti-Semitic abuse. Our position on this topic is very clear. The club does not tolerate any form of racist or abusive chanting.

"Our guiding principle in respect of the 'Y-word' is based on the point of law itself - the distinguishing factor is the intent with which it is used, ie if it is used with the deliberate intention to cause offence. This has been the basis of prosecutions of fans of other teams to date.

"They do not use the term to others to cause any offence, they use it a chant amongst themselves.

"We believe this is the area that requires a determined and concerted effort from all parties and where we seek greater support to eradicate."

Oldham and South Africa midfielder Furman backed Herbert by saying the term should not be used at all.

"I understand that it can be used as a nickname in some quarters, but if it's important to stop the use of the word then you can't use it either way," he told BBC Sport.

"You can't use it as a nickname or a chant for Tottenham because abusive chants will come back. The more they use it, the more opposition fans will use it. If it is banned altogether then hopefully we won't get the abuse at all. It needs to be tackled in the same way as racist chanting.

 "The sanctions need to be high and then it will be stamped out of the game for good. We need zero tolerance."

"The anti-Semitic abuse is sung on the terraces and it's vital that anyone caught singing these chants is immediately removed from the stadium.

"People will be singing those songs without the knowledge of what went on in the Holocaust, for instance. Knowledge is everything and the sooner we can get these songs stamped out of our game the better."

But Powar criticised Herbert for his intervention. "I think this is where Peter Herbert and the Society of Black Lawyers are naive," he told BBC Sport.

"They perhaps don't know football. To think 20 to 30 years of complex identity will be cleared up overnight is wrong. And I have to say that the Jewish community are split on their use of that term.

"Many young members say it's a badge of appreciation and gives them pride. Some older members says that's not true, it's a derogatory term and goes back to a period they don't want to remember."


Is this just getting ridiculous or do they have a point?

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General Football & Sports / Hearts
« on: November 07, 2012, 05:43:42 PM »
I can't say it comes as any surprise. Just a surprise to see it's taken so long. Romanov will probably have another fine heading his way in the not to distant future for comments he's made about referees in the SPL.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20241385

Hearts are warning fans the club might not survive until the end of the month after receiving a winding-up order over a tax bill of almost £450,000.

The Edinburgh club issued a plea for "emergency backing" from supporters to avoid the prospect of administration.

"This isn't a bluff, this isn't scaremongering, this is reality," read a statement from Hearts.

"Without the support of fans there is a real risk that Hearts could possibly play its last game on 17 November."

 Hearts host St Mirren on that date, with the men in maroon travelling to Inverness this weekend.

The latest matter is unrelated to a £1.75m tax bill Hearts are currently contesting.

The bill is understood to be for unpaid PAYE and VAT and the club have eight days to pay or the winding up order will be enforced by the court.

Hearts, who have confirmed that the amount due is £449,692.04, say they are hoping to reach agreement with HMRC over a repayment plan.

The Edinburgh club, owned by Lithuanian-based banker Vladimir Romanov, are appealing for fans to invest in a recent share offer and to turn out in numbers for the next three home games.

"Discussions on whose name is above the door, talk about how the money has been spent and debate on whether the investment in silverware has been appropriate is all natural but quite simply worthless at this moment in time," adds the club statement.

"The only valid debate now is how can you help the club.

"This club has been supported for the last seven years by generous funding from the majority shareholding business Ukio Banko Investicine Grupe (UBIG) and we continue to seek the support of UBIG at this stage.

"However, no business is immune to the financial realities of the current global economy and for this reason the club's reliance on its supporters is greater than at any point in the last seven years.

"Our partners, our opponents, media, football bodies, many others - all are watching and judging how we will respond to the challenge. If we cannot demonstrate that we are united and we represent a force then there will be no due respect to the club from anyone around.

"Without your help now, we could be entering the final days of the club's existence.

"There are limited options for the board of directors to take to avoid the catastrophic consequences that a funding shortfall would mean for the club.

"In a footballing sense alone Hearts will suffer an immediate 17-point penalty [for going into administration]. This would just be the start of a painful process that will affect every one of us and could lead to far more damaging actions that threaten the very existence of the club."

SPL rules on clubs going into administration were changed over the summer, with clubs receiving a minimum 15-point deduction or losing a third of the previous season's total.

Meanwhile, it is understood Hearts are unlikely to face any immediate sanctions from the Scottish Premier League over the non-payment of tax.

The only sanction for not paying HMRC on time is a registration embargo and the club already have this sanction in place for the late payment of salaries to players.

The SPL has been informed and could take further action if payment is not paid within the eight-day deadline.

Hearts insist the petition "has only recently been presented" to them.

Earlier, a club spokesperson said: "We would be hopeful that HMRC will accept that winding up the club would be totally unnecessary."

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General Football & Sports / Craig Levein leaves Scotland
« on: November 05, 2012, 04:30:21 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20205303

Craig Levein will not be carrying on as Scotland coach, BBC Sport understands.

It follows a poor start to the World Cup campaign, with Scotland sitting bottom of Group A.

The seven-man Scottish Football Association board met at the end of last week to consider the 48-year-old Fifer's position.

And the decision comes the day before the international squad is due to be announced for next month's friendly in Luxembourg.

The SFA board had come in for widespread criticism for continuing their deliberating over the weekend about the future of the former Hearts, Leicester City, Hearts and Dundee United manager.

His contract was due to run until summer 2014, with reports claiming that sacking Levein now could cost the SFA up to £700,000.

Levein, who took over in December 2009, had already been under pressure after Scotland drew their opening Hampden qualifiers against Serbia and Macedonia.

Defeats by Wales and Belgium led to a widespread expectation that he would be removed from his post.

Scotland have only won three of their 12 competitive matches with the former international defender in charge.

However, Levein had vowed not to resign, while captain Darren Ferguson and other members of the Scotland squad have gone public with their desire for the coach to remain in post.

Levein tried to convince SFA chief executive Stewart Regan and president Campbell Ogilivie that he should remain in post during a meeting early last week.

Bookmakers have made former Celtic and Southampton manager Gordon Strachan a clear early favourite to succeed Dunfermline-born Levein.

He is followed by former Scotland manager Alex McLeish, who was sacked by Aston Villa in the summer, and Mark Wotte, the Dutchman brought in by Levein to be SFA performance director.

Scotland have gathered two points from four matches in their World Cup group, with qualification already looking well beyond them.

The Scots travel face Luxembourg for their friendly on 14 November but do not have another qualifier until hosting Wales on 22 March

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Villa game picked for TV
« on: October 31, 2012, 04:18:14 PM »
http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/villa-game-picked-for-live-tv-458361.aspx

Derby date put back for screening by ESPN
ALBION’S derby clash with Villa on Saturday, January 19 has been picked for live TV screening on ESPN.

The Hawthorns encounter will now kick-off at 5.30pm.


Flood lit derby anyone?

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General Football & Sports / Lee Croft alleged racism to SUFC ball boy.
« on: October 14, 2012, 06:47:01 PM »
That ugly word has reared it's head again. For those which didn't see the incident, the SUFC ball boy was wasting time by not kicking the ball to Lee Croft who was waiting to take a throw in late on in the game. Once Croft walked towards the ball boy to receive the ball, the ball boy then kicked the ball away and words were exchanged.

At the end of the game Croft went up to him to shake his hand and apologise, the ball boy refused and looked quite upset walking off the pitch.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19938884

Oldham Athletic winger Lee Croft has denied allegations that he racially abused a ball boy at Sheffield United on Saturday.

The League One club has been informed that South Yorkshire Police are investigating the allegation.

"I've run over to get the ball, he's kicked it away and in my frustration I've said 'what are you doing?' and had a go," said the 27-year-old Croft.

"I've not said anything to offend the lad, I wouldn't do that."

The Football Association said it was aware of the allegations and was looking into the matter.

A statement for the League One club said: "The player has categorically denied the allegation. The club and his team-mates are fully supportive of him.

"The club will not be making further statements in relation to this matter."

However, Oldham manager Paul Dickov said United fans were "trying to get [Croft] into trouble" with the accusations.

"I've spoken to Lee about it and he categorically denies it," said Dickov.

"If something has happened, we will deal with it because we won't put up with it. But Lee Croft has not got that in his body.

"I've been told a lot of people have jumped on the bandwagon very quickly. The kid himself has said he doesn't know what was actually said.

"I'm never going to condone anything like that but, knowing Lee as I do, I trust him completely."

Croft added that he apologised to the ball boy in question but his apology was not accepted.

"He didn't want to know and pushed my hand away," said Croft.

"As far as I'm concerned the matter is finished. Can I complain about them [the United fans] abusing me all game? I've not done anything wrong."


South Yorkshire Police are going to launch an investigation into the incident.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / So what is Steve Clarke's best team?
« on: October 10, 2012, 05:02:21 PM »
We're 7 games in and we've roughly seen enough of everybody. The only one who haven't started for us yet in the league are Markus Rosenberg and Yassine El Ghanassy added to Jerome Thomas who has missed out with injury.

Few talking points firstly.

Reid or Jones?

Ridgewell or Popov?

Long or Lukaku?

Who's plays as our 'wide' midfielders?

Where does Chris Brunt feature? Left, centre or on the right?

I think judging from what we've seen so far, Clarke will remain with the 4231 set up which I like as I think it suits our players better. Especially when they're given the freedom to produce.

So overall then, what's his best side? And who should make up the 7 on the bench?

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General Football & Sports / Parachute Payments
« on: September 19, 2012, 08:51:49 PM »
Just been listening to Keith Hill's (Barnsley manager) after match conference to BBC Radio Sheffield. He made some interesting points in my opinion and points which could bring up some decent debate on here, especially as we're a club which has received parachute payments after relegation.

You'll have to listen to his interview to understand what I'm trying to say: Keith Hill Interview.

What are people's thoughts on this? As Keith Hill points out, is it unfair? Are we rewarding teams for failure? Should they have structured their finances better in the premier league that they shouldn't be relying on parachute payments? He makes a very valid point in my opinion. They've just been relegated from the Premier League and using the parachute payments have spent £8million on Jordan Rhodes and also brought the likes of Nuno Gomes and Danny Murphy.

Should they be scrapped, even if it means clubs enter tough financial times? Or should they be kept and helped aid those relegated clubs?

Cracking debate in my opinion.

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General Football & Sports / Andy Murray
« on: September 09, 2012, 01:14:09 PM »
Anybody been watching the tennis? Might ruffle a few feathers with this  :D

Andy Murray is in the final of the Grand Slam at flushing meadows and will face either Djokovic or David Ferer. The game last night was abondonned with Ferer winning 5-2 in the first set.

Final will be on monday.

Olympic gold medalist and a US open winner in the same year?

Come on Andy!!

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General Football & Sports / Andrew Strauss retires from Cricket
« on: August 29, 2012, 12:10:36 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/19408311

 England captain Andrew Strauss has retired from all forms of cricket.


Batsman Strauss played 100 Tests and skippered his country in 50 of them.

One-day captain Alastair Cook is taking over from Strauss and will lead his country in the four-Test series against India in November.

Strauss said: "It has clearly been a tough decision to make, but I believe that it is both in the best interests of the England cricket team and myself to step down at this stage."

During his time in charge, England were ranked the world's best Test team for the first time.

Cook, 27, said: "I'm very excited by this new challenge, it is a huge honour to be appointed Test captain and I am very much looking forward to captaining the side in India this winter and beyond."


Been a remarkable career as captain to be honest with the two ashes victories, especially the 3-1 down under which I'm sure English cricket fans will never forget. Shame to see him depart under recent circumstances, appears his 100th test match was over-shadowed by the KP saga. The only real milestone he had left as captain was to beat the South Africans but unfortunately, that never happened.

I do, however, hope, that KP is also kept well away from the test stage and that he is swiftly forgotten about so Cook and Flower can lead the team to future success. No doubt the talking points will soon be back on KP.

Cheers for everything Straussy and enjoy your retirement.

With Strauss our captain, we took the urn home!

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Blast from the past - Part Four
« on: August 01, 2012, 01:33:13 PM »
Right then, this weeks edition sees us take ourselves on a journey down memory lane to argubably one of the sons of our beloved football club.

This weeks edition sees us focus on 'The King'. Jeff Astle made a total of 292 appearences for our club scoring 137 goals. Argubably his greatest goal coming in the FA cup final in 1968 - Our last major trophy win to date




Jeffrey Astle

13th May 1942 - 19th January 2002




Share with us your memories of Jeff, the stories you heard, the stories read, and the memories of our emotional game against Walsall in 2002, and your reaction to when you heard that god had taken away one of this football clubs greatest sons.


Jeff 'The King' Astle - Gone but never forgotten

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General Football & Sports / England vs South Africa
« on: July 22, 2012, 02:30:52 PM »
Anybody been watching?

Batting masterclass so far from South Africa. Never seen the England bowlers look so ineffective.

1st of three test matches.

South Africa currently 549-2 - Amla 270 not out, Kallis 141 not out in response to England's 385.

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