[gazberg]

I am relieved it’s not going to be Williams yet I openly admit to not knowing too much about him. It just doesn’t feel right to me. With Robins now employed, Cooper understandably unavailable due to terms of garden leave, Williams no longer in the frame, I genuinely have no idea of who is likely to get the job. I want a new man though, not the current temps….

Shame about Cooper being on GL, i thought he was paid off and done but sadly not.

For me it feels like it will be someone left field or less obvious as others have said

[zippyandbungle]

Maybe not. It was those so reliable sources again (DOOD, eya we goo) may as well ask a 10 year old for updates based on what I see from him or her…

But there has been quite a few things that dood was correct on?
There seems to be a bit of “can’t wait for them to be wrong”, which is fine, but difficult to balance that with “we want to know what’s going on”?

[zippyandbungle]

Shame about Cooper being on GL, i thought he was paid off and done but sadly not.

For me it feels like it will be someone left field or less obvious as others have said

I’m surprised more of them aren’t put on gardening leave
In an instant where Leicester have fully paid him off…let’s say 3m, all upfront, then he is free to go somewhere else so 1 week later takes Southampton who then beat Leicester and stay up on goal difference over Leicester ….youd be pretty fuming.
If it were me I’d put whoever it was on gardening, that way if they want a job, they don’t get double bubble.

[gazberg]

I’m surprised more of them aren’t put on gardening leave
In an instant where Leicester have fully paid him off…let’s say 3m, all upfront, then he is free to go somewhere else so 1 week later takes Southampton who then beat Leicester and stay up on goal difference over Leicester ….youd be pretty fuming.
If it were me I’d put whoever it was on gardening, that way if they want a job, they don’t get double bubble.

I can see the appeal of GL for clubs and manager alike to be fair.

[baggie96]

Not really understanding why people want Brunt and Abella as interim to the end of the season. This year is our best chance of going up, the league is poor imo

[beechyboy90]

Think Abella will get the job with some new coaches coming in along aside him if he does ok v swans and bournemouth

[TheBaggieMan]

Not really understanding why people want Brunt and Abella as interim to the end of the season. This year is our best chance of going up, the league is poor imo

Generally, when a search for a new coach occurs whatever club, it is in danger of being relegated and are looking for a new coach with new ideas, systems and injecting new enthusiasm. Our case is the opposite.

We have a reasonable squad base playing decent football with potential automatic promotion and certainly the play-offs and the old adage applies to a degree ‘if it ain’t broke, why fix it’.   Certainly improve it where you can but don’t throw out the successful work previously achieved and try to replace with new coach tactics and systems of which the players are unfamiliar. 

This is the attraction of appointing the current temporary team of Brunt and Abella plus, the financial attraction of not having to pay anyone compensation. 

(As a matter of interest, my vote was for Johnny Heitinga!)

[gazberg]

Not really understanding why people want Brunt and Abella as interim to the end of the season. This year is our best chance of going up, the league is poor imo

Will be tougher next season i agree.

[Hull Baggie]

Quote from: lewisant on January 01, 2025, 05:04:34 PM
Would’ve seen that clean sheet out with Corberan  Game management was dire and should stop the “put Brunt in charge until May” comments to bed.

I asked the question some days ago of whether a Brunt/Abella team might be interested in the job only to a degree be ridiculed that such a question was a ‘joke’ and that their game management was ‘dire’ (against Preston) and any suggestions of them being put in charge be ‘put to bed’.  Strange how some posters change their opinions

My response to you was based on your comment that if Brunt won all of his games in charge would he be considered for the job...which was odd as we'd played 2 games and not won any, so how could Brunt win all his games in charge.

Also you said Brunt in charge with Mozza as his assistant no mention of Abella at first (it's in the Sheff utd after match thread)

[MarkW]

Generally, when a search for a new coach occurs whatever club, it is in danger of being relegated and are looking for a new coach with new ideas, systems and injecting new enthusiasm. Our case is the opposite.

We have a reasonable squad base playing decent football with potential automatic promotion and certainly the play-offs and the old adage applies to a degree ‘if it ain’t broke, why fix it’.   Certainly improve it where you can but don’t throw out the successful work previously achieved and try to replace with new coach tactics and systems of which the players are unfamiliar. 

This is the attraction of appointing the current temporary team of Brunt and Abella plus, the financial attraction of not having to pay anyone compensation. 

(As a matter of interest, my vote was for Johnny Heitinga!)

Equally, Brunt is/was loans manager, so wasn't part of the coaching setup, Abella was a stats analyst and Myhill is a goalkeeper coach in the academy (I think), so there's little continuity, really.

We lost Carlos, our goalkeeper coach (Marcos Abad?), Martin Drury and I think two other assistants to Carlos.

[HampshireBaggie]

As someone has said this is a skeleton coaching set up put together on a temporary basis. We’ve had a couple of good performances but we’re only ever 1 bad performance away from it being a terrible idea. I think it is already.

We are well in the mix for promotion and we should be aiming high.

Caretaker to perms never work.

[Standaman]

I don't think this role or any other Championship Head Coach job is a role for a newbie. It is vital that Coaches cut their teeth at a lower level or at the very least do an extensive apprenticeship. The lack of a solid grounding is often what derails the big names that get fast tracked to big jobs.

My one reservation about Johnny Heitinga is that he has never been a Head Coach yet his coaching experience as an assistant is probably greater than the current interim teams is in total.

The same could also be said Pepijn Lijnders but after two setbacks as Head Coach at NEC and RB Salzburg you do wonder as to whether he will make at as Head Coach or like Graeme Jones be a solid enough assistant but a bit of a disaster as a Head Coach.

Not all coaches have what it takes to be the Head Coach the smart ones realise this and are happy to have a career away from the limelight.

The interim team can hold the fort for a few weeks but without significant reinforcement won't get through to the end of the season and Brunt in particular has little appetite for it to be a permanent move.

In practical terms the search for a new Head Coach was always likely to run until Swansea particularly if the net was spread to outside the UK because of the added complication of work permits etc.... However the clock really starts ticking from Monday.

[NJS]

David Abela seems to be shouting the tactical instructions during a match.   Interesting to know whether it's him making the substitute decisions.

[Blowee]

Heitinga’s agent has effectively ruled him out of leaving Liverpool this season so another rumour down.

[SmethDan]

Heitinga’s agent has effectively ruled him out of leaving Liverpool this season so another rumour down.

And another one, and another one down, another one bites the dust.......

......... if he was ever actually a genuine target of course.

[Blowee]

And another one, and another one down, another one bites the dust.......

......... if he was ever actually a genuine target of course.

Yes, I’m beginning to think that it’s not going to be any of the coaches on our list above.

[gazberg]

"John will definitely stay at Liverpool this season" are the words from his agent. If we really want him we will have to wait then.

[Fritzl Palace]

Not really understanding why people want Brunt and Abella as interim to the end of the season. This year is our best chance of going up, the league is poor imo

Because certain people never learn from past mistakes. It’s quite concerning really, you’d have thought the Darren Moore/Jimmy Shan debacle would have made people realise, but apparently not

[Fritzl Palace]

So who is actually left in the running to take over the position of the man so many wanted out? It seems a fairly small pond that we are fishing in when it comes to candidates. Be careful what you wish for, chaps.

[Blowee]

Still think it’s going to be someone left field. Brunt said that he’d been asked to step in for ‘weeks’ so I don’t think it was ever going to be a quick appointment. I’m thinking that ruled out the likes of Mowbray, O’Neil, Bilic or anyone else who was available straight away. That’s effectively all of the potential candidates above.

[SmethDan]

Still think it’s going to be someone left field. Brunt said that he’d been asked to step in for ‘weeks’ so I don’t think it was ever going to be a quick appointment. I’m thinking that ruled out the likes of Mowbray, O’Neil, Bilic or anyone else who was available straight away.

I'm still thinking it might be Eustace....... or possibly Heckingbottom coming up on the outside. Both know how to organise a team to perform greater than the sum of it's, despite what we witnessed against Preston the other day. Both in post and both have Championship experience. You never know.

[Fritzl Palace]

I'm still thinking it might be Eustace....... or possibly Heckingbottom coming up on the outside. Both know how to organise a team to perform greater than the sum of it's, despite what we witnessed against Preston the other day. Both in post and both have Championship experience. You never know.

Would hate both.

[BaggiePhil]

So who is actually left in the running to take over the position of the man so many wanted out? It seems a fairly small pond that we are fishing in when it comes to candidates. Be careful what you wish for, chaps.

So has Steve Cooper definitely been ruled out?

[overseas baggie]

Still think it’s going to be someone left field. Brunt said that he’d been asked to step in for ‘weeks’ so I don’t think it was ever going to be a quick appointment. I’m thinking that ruled out the likes of Mowbray, O’Neil, Bilic or anyone else who was available straight away.

A point worth bearing in mind is that anybody recently sacked (Cooper, O’Neill for example) needs to negotiate a settlement of their remaining contract before taking a job elsewhere.  Under PRS, clubs will now prefer to keep paying the sacked manager’s salary monthly rather than pay up the full remaining contract because if they want to take another job, the club can reduce its liability by doing a deal.

[Fritzl Palace]

So has Steve Cooper definitely been ruled out?

Not entirely sure, he’s on a decent financial package currently and it’s whether he wants to sit on that and wait for a job with more resources to come up as he will know with us there is not much budget to play with and he will need to wait until the summer to mould a side when the out of contract players leave