[skyclad99]

Strange lot these foreigners. (Jingoistic or what?)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52084121

I do a fair bit of lay betting and I notice that the Belarus leagues are about the only meaningful football games being played around the world. I saw on the news today that the Belarus President has just played a game of Ice Hockey and that his solution is that  'vodka and saunas will cure coronavirus'

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11282607/belarus-president-coronavirus-vodka-saunas/

Lets see if he thinks the same next week.

I also note that the only meaningful horse racing around is from the USA, Australia and SA. I wonder how long that will last?

[skyclad99]

I was in Thailand for a month in February, just as this was all kicking off. Whilst there we met a group of Americans who were English teachers living in Shanghai. They had the good fortune of being sent on a teaching mission to Thailand just as this was breaking and obviously we discussed it in great detail. The one thing they told me was that 'if China say a few thousand have died, you can add a couple of noughts onto their numbers', and that comes from some guys who have lived there for a few years. I never mentioned it as it could be seen as a 'chinese whisper', but today I came across this;

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11283933/wuhan-coronavirus-death-toll-cover-up-urns/ 

I know its only the Sun but.......

[baggie53]

I am convinced that the virus was circulating before China reported it in December, maybe also outside of China

[tuamigos]

I am convinced that the virus was circulating before China reported it in December, maybe also outside of China

Its also been suggested that Austria knew they had it but kept it quiet so as not to disturb their skiing industry.

[kirk]

We weren't prepared, otherwise we'd have had PPE ready for front line staff and we'd have take steps to flatten the curve. 

Have you read the pandemic plan?  I have.  It was for a flu pandemic with a much lower fatality rate, it wasn't suitable for what we are facing.  We watched what happened in other countries and ignored it.   2 weeks ago Boris was bragging about shaking hands with coronavirus patients.

We changed direction when we realised how many deaths the current plan would have led to.  Since then we've reacted as well as we could be expected to but we wasted a lot of time when we could have been saving more lives.

Gone on I bite what plan have you been reading .... it would have dates on it, asking as I also have read the government plan and it’s not just for flu

[The Black Pearl]

John even NHS staff could be spreading the virus cause they haven't got enough PPE now that is the governments fault.

The NHS have their own procurement systems, the government is trying to obtain PPE equipment against a backdrop of world shortages and massive daily use probably a 100 times what would normally be used.
I see that Boris's approach to industry for ventilators is now baring fruit, scoffed at by his critics, the death rate has fallen for two days now, we are doing okay I think.

[kirk]

The NHS have their own procurement systems, the government is trying to obtain PPE equipment against a backdrop of world shortages and massive daily use probably a 100 times what would normally be used.
I see that Boris's approach to industry for ventilators is now baring fruit, scoffed at by his critics, the death rate has fallen for two days now, we are doing okay I think.

A French company that makes the face masks stated that their first order from any government was by the UK but the French government stopped them exporting them.

[boinging_along]

Gone on I bite what plan have you been reading .... it would have dates on it, asking as I also have read the government plan and it’s not just for flu

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/pandemic-influenza-response-plan

I think it was that one.  I'm on phone so not 100% sure, will double check tomorrow.

[hardtobeat]

I am intrigued that despite all the governments claims that Ocado can purchase with some ease it would seem 100k tests so they can test staff ? This is way more than the NHS are testing per week

[The Black Pearl]

A French company that makes the face masks stated that their first order from any government was by the UK but the French government stopped them exporting them.

Does not surprise me.
My sister in law has downs syndrome, she lives in Droitwich, a helper at her home fell ill was tested, test was negative, then retested, test was positive, the tests are clearly not that reliable as was suggested by the experts, so untill they were more accurate, the Government was.not relying on them.

[hardtobeat]

Does not surprise me.
My sister in law has downs syndrome, she lives in Droitwich, a helper at her home fell ill was tested, test was negative, then retested, test was positive, the tests are clearly not that reliable as was suggested by the experts, so untill they were more accurate, the Government was.not relying on them.

Doesn't explain the bull we have been hearing over testing I.e different ministers quoting different numbers.

[kc56wba]

Doesn't explain the bull we have been hearing over testing I.e different ministers quoting different numbers.

Not only about the testing but the PPE being delivered to Hospitals, Shortages in supplies of protective equipment for health workers has led to a desperate NHS procurement chief tweeting “God help us all”.

[skyclad99]

Trump doesn't like straighforward questions by the look of it. I thought it was a reasonable question;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/52100561/trump-on-coronavirus-heated-response-to-snarky-nasty-question

[kc56wba]

Trump doesn't like straighforward questions by the look of it. I thought it was a reasonable question;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/52100561/trump-on-coronavirus-heated-response-to-snarky-nasty-question

Kev the bloke is a utter idiot.

He responded to an question  When asked by PBS News Hour journalist Yamiche Alcindor about per capita testing in the US compared with South Korea

'I know South Korea better than anybody' "It's a very tight... Do you know how many people are in Seoul? Do you know how big the city of Seoul is?"

He then answered his question: "38 million people. That's bigger than anything we have. "38million people, all tightly, wound together."

Seoul has a population of around 10million, according to its government website.

 

[Hull Baggie]

Please keep all posts about Coronavirus. Non coronavirus posts will be removed. Remember politics is a banned topic on here.

[skyclad99]

Just listening to the Governor of NY - Andrew Cuomo. Likes to talk a lot but he has a much better grasp of the gravity of the situation than Donald, who seems to think that everything could have been back to normal by Easter. [I know he has changed his view slightly now].

Today's toll in the UK is 367 which is not good.

[kc56wba]

Just listening to the Governor of NY - Andrew Cuomo. Likes to talk a lot but he has a much better grasp of the gravity of the situation than Donald, who seems to think that everything could have been back to normal by Easter. [I know he has changed his view slightly now].

Today's toll in the UK is 367 which is not good.

New total 381 dead now, but we cant blame anyone can we

[skyclad99]

I guess we can blame the Chinese, but I am quite sure the conspiracy theories will run and run on this one......

The only blame I lay at the moment is against the countless 'greasy jacks' who continue to carry on as normal because they think that it does not apply to them, thus potentially endangering anyone who comes close to them 

[wbastrollers]

New total 381 dead now, but we cant blame anyone can we

I would really like to know who you blame for the Coronavirus dead?

[kc56wba]

I would really like to know who you blame for the Coronavirus dead?

IMO the death toll would have been much lower if certain precautions had been implemented earlier.

[zippyandbungle]

IMO the death toll would have been much lower if certain precautions had been implemented earlier.

By whom?

[mulliganstired]

IMO the death toll would have been much lower if certain precautions had been implemented earlier.

That is quite likely the truth.  Without attacking any political party in particular, it is often the case that a "new broom" administration suffers from having had a massive clearout of old hands who are seen as tainted.  I never had a lot of time for Jeremy Hunt, Ken Clarke I thought was solid, but without people who have been there for a while and know the ropes it does like there was/is a vacuum of sorts around the top.

[The Black Pearl]

I guess we can blame the Chinese, but I am quite sure the conspiracy theories will run and run on this one......

The only blame I lay at the moment is against the countless 'greasy jacks' who continue to carry on as normal because they think that it does not apply to them, thus potentially endangering anyone who comes close to them

Exactly, people were told to stop going out on the 16th March, some of us did that, some others didn't, they were to blame for any further spreading, not the government.

[kc56wba]

Exactly, people were told to stop going out on the 16th March, some of us did that, some others didn't, they were to blame for any further spreading, not the government.

Why keep pubs, restaurants and clubs open for a further 4 days if people were told to stop going out.  The Premier League and the EFL stopped all games on the 14th March, looks like they were more up to date than the government.

[albion59]

Why keep pubs, restaurants and clubs open for a further 4 days if people were told to stop going out.  The Premier League and the EFL stopped all games on the 14th March, looks like they were more up to date than the government.

Why can't you give it a rest? The mods have asked people to keep it non political but you just can't can you? With all the problems the World is going through you just have to keep having a pop. Disgraceful.