[TheJacko2000]

To have a more balanced view, penalties need to be scored as was demonstrated in our game against the vile, I wish he had taken all five, we'd have been in the final

Who's winning them for him? He certainly doesn't win any himself.

[AlbionFan]

Who's winning them for him? He certainly doesn't win any himself.

It's not about winning the penalty in the final analysis, who remembers the person fouled for the penalty? We all remember the person that missed and it seems we devalue those that scored.

[TheJacko2000]

It's not about winning the penalty in the final analysis, who remembers the person fouled for the penalty? We all remember the person that missed and it seems we devalue those that scored.

Bit odd, there is no penalty without someone winning it?

[wbarenno]

True enough he doesn’t win many but he sure as hell scores them. Penalty kicks still have to be scored

[AlbionFan]

Bit odd, there is no penalty without someone winning it?

You can run, but you can’t hide, metaphorically speaking 

[Atomic]

Wow.

According to some fans we cannot adequately replace Gibbs, Phillips, Dawson, Rodriguez .......... .

Someone remind me where we finished again?

Someone remind me where we finished the season before as well?

That's nearly half a team. If they are that good the others must be absolutely dire given what we've failed to achieve over the last couple of seasons.

[wbarenno]

Wow.

According to some fans we cannot adequately replace Gibbs, Phillips, Dawson, Rodriguez .......... .

Someone remind me where we finished again?

Someone remind me where we finished the season before as well?

That's nearly half a team. If they are that good the others must be absolutely dire given what we've failed to achieve over the last couple of seasons.

Great point but like I said before mate I’m still of the opinion that any of them players leave and their replacement isn’t going to be anywhere near as good . The players leaving aren’t great either. Which spells scary times ahead for the club

[Atomic]

Great point but like I said before mate I’m still of the opinion that any of them players leave and their replacement isn’t going to be anywhere near as good . The players leaving aren’t great either. Which spells scary times ahead for the club

Why?

It's a matter of perception. When a player plays for a club someone supports they are seen as either better than they really are or worse than they really are because it matters to us. It's a bit like when a player isn't being picked and fans think they should be they are thought of as better than they really are.

None of the players listed are anything brilliant. They are good footballers in their own right but none of them are irreplaceable. Just an example -  if we replaced Jay Rodriguez with Neil Maupay (depending on the way the new head coach wants to play etc) would that really be a backward step?

[zippyandbungle]

Wow.

According to some fans we cannot adequately replace Gibbs, Phillips, Dawson, Rodriguez .......... .

Someone remind me where we finished again?

Someone remind me where we finished the season before as well?

That's nearly half a team. If they are that good the others must be absolutely dire given what we've failed to achieve over the last couple of seasons.

Reece James loan
Ollie Watkins
Tosin loan
Harry Wilson/Danny ings/oumar niasse. Loan

[TheJacko2000]

Reece James loan
Ollie Watkins
Tosin loan
Harry Wilson/Danny ings/oumar niasse. Loan

At least you'll have to stop touting AVB 

[Mister AT]

Reece James loan
Ollie Watkins
Tosin loan
Harry Wilson/Danny ings/oumar niasse. Loan

Reece James - won Wigans player of the year, imagine Chelsea will try get him premier league football next season somewhere.

Tosin - possibility, if Dawson/Hegazi leave and dependant on our new boss, I could see us going back and getting him for another year as he would probably be first choice alongside Bartley.

Harry Wilson - wont be playing championship football next year, and if he does it'll be back at Derby. Liverpool want 25 million for him, can see him going on loan to a prem team.

Ings - no chance.

Niasse - could probably get him in on a perm. Totally forgot about him would be a good addition in this league.

[Hull Baggie]

Can we please keep this thread relevant to Kieran Gibbs.

Other player discussions need to go in their threads or in the signings for the championship thread.

cheers

[cads_ap_albion]

Not in the squad today... 

Does this mean he is on the way? Would be a big loss.

[Atomic]

Not in the squad today... 

Does this mean he is on the way? Would be a big loss.

I don't think it would, I think Townsend is better now. Gibbs regressing for me, he's either giving penalties away or not closing crosses down. I'd be making Townsend first choice left back regardless of whether or not Gibbs stays.

[cads_ap_albion]

I don't think it would, I think Townsend is better now. Gibbs regressing for me, he's either giving penalties away or not closing crosses down. I'd be making Townsend first choice left back regardless of whether or not Gibbs stays.

Interesting point, but I think Gibbs offers us pace

I did like Townsend 's passing last year as he does look forward but he isn't the quickest.

At least we are adding more pace across the squad generally with two new signings but I do believe ee must keep the pace we had.

[sammyg]

Gibbs just got a knock apparently he’s not off.

[smethwickw]

Hope Gibbs stays. Townsend is poor IMO.

[Beefy]

Just a knock but gone to see a specialist 

New signings Kenneth Zohore and Semi Ajayi on the Baggies bench, while Kieran Gibbs is not in the squad at all. Been told Gibbs has just got a knock, not that he's off. Apparently gone to see a specialist. https://t.co/25OqqwHOeD

[OldburyWBA]

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kieran-gibbs-injury-west-brom-16619333?fbclid=IwAR1m8PRJOx8GO3rCRoiq8QcHaopmRmSBlbcvexytjuYYD5JZuOPHpfsyW2o

Knock in training

[KN22]

I don't think it would, I think Townsend is better now. Gibbs regressing for me, he's either giving penalties away or not closing crosses down. I'd be making Townsend first choice left back regardless of whether or not Gibbs stays.

Very surprised at this. Gibbs streets ahead of Townsend imo.

[Atomic]

Very surprised at this. Gibbs streets ahead of Townsend imo.

I know a lot of fans think Gibbs is a Rolls Royce. I don't agree, he's proved too costly for the most part last season. Townsend has improved all the time since he's been at the club. Made the first goal today as well. Also made the forth.

[alex1]

I know a lot of fans think Gibbs is a Rolls Royce. I don't agree, he's proved too costly for the most part last season. Townsend has improved all the time since he's been at the club. Made the first goal today as well. Also made the forth.

Maybe there's a place for both. I don't want to see Gibbs leave. He is a good allround footballer. We've seen enough good players leave in this window. Just means we'd be looking for another replacement. 

[AlbionFan]

Maybe there's a place for both. I don't want to see Gibbs leave. He is a good allround footballer. We've seen enough good players leave in this window. Just means we'd be looking for another replacement.

Agreed, he has proven quality and pedigree and is a valuable member of the squad imo

[albion59]

We need to keep Gibbs as first choice, and keep Townsend as back up if Gibbs loses form then in steps Townsend win win imo.

[FallOutBoy]

I don't think it would, I think Townsend is better now. Gibbs regressing for me, he's either giving penalties away or not closing crosses down. I'd be making Townsend first choice left back regardless of whether or not Gibbs stays.

Have you spent a bit too long in the Sportsman before games? 

Gibbs isn't the best defensively, but has obvious quality on the ball and going forward. He's perfect for a team that should be more concerned with attacking than being attacked. If we can keep him this summer, I think that's great.

Townsend meanwhile is a bang average Championship player. He tries hard, but he's limited. If he was our left back in the Premier League we'd concede loads from that side.