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Title: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 15, 2020, 10:39:39 AM
I thought I'd start a thread on the state of the transfer market in general, picking apart individual deals and seeing where the players we have been linked with actually end up.

The window is open and fans across Europe are getting ever so frustrated because not much is happening and just to add to the weirdness of it all some of the bigger clubs are still playing out the final stages of European competitions while this years qualifying rounds are underway  and other leagues such as Belgium and Scotland for instance have started the new season.

The window closes 5th of October.

A few observations

The £100m plus transfer is dead.

Or at least in hibernation. For a £100m transfer to happen there has to be a generational talent available and there has to be a bidding war or stupidly big release clause. The big two Spanish teams that drive this end of the market are out. Without them the other elite clubs can pick up talent without breaching £100m.

Man United's interest in Sancho might have triggered a deal of that magnitude but at the time of writing that does not look like it is happening. Dortmund don't have to sell this window and are taking the view there will be better markets to sell into and Man United aren't prepared to meet the price.

Chelsea get busy

Having sold Hazzard, Morata and a host of other lesser lights last season and being subject to a transfer ban Chelsea found themselves with cash in a market place desperate for cash. With the added advantage of Abramovitch's willingness to underwrite their transfer dealings they have spent nearly £100m on Werner and Ziyech.  Yet the much touted deal for Havertz has not yet materialised but in general Chelsea seem to be the busiest of the major clubs.

Where's the money gone

Chelsea have dropped some big fees into the top end of the Dutch and German markets as have Napoli into the French market through their purchase of Victor Osimhen for over £60m from Lille. The question is have the selling clubs spent the money further down the pyramid sparking other deals?

Obviously until the window closes there won't be a definitive answer.

RB Leipzig have spent £8m on a player from RB Salzberg who in turn spent £4m on a player from Lyon. The Werner money is still largely in the bank.

Ajax have bought two players for £22m one of whom is a very obvious replacement for Ziyech at fees that don't look greatly reduced from last summer.

Lille have spent over £30m and a very large chunk of that on the young but exciting talent of Johnathon David from Gent. In turn Gent have spent half the David fee on 5 players from clubs further down the pyramid.

The Chelsea and Napoli money hasn't as yet been circulated through the market and it should be noted that Leipzig, Ajax, Lille and Gent are all teams in the Champions League and the money from the Champions League is key to propping up the finances at the top end of most European leagues in the pandemic environment.

Beware the loan to buy trap

On the face of it the Italian market looks busy yet on closer inspection a lot of the deals are the buy ends of the last years loan to buy deals. A lot of mid level Serie A clubs have big commitments on players that in this market look horribly over priced. Special shout out here to relegated SPAL who have managed to buy Kevin Bonifazi (no me neither) for over £9m from Torino that is horrible when you are playing behind closed doors in Serie B.

Is Valencia the new Normal?

Valencia without European football have a big wage bill and bleed money add in the impact of Covid-19 and the situation is critical. Their owners response has been to put the whole first team squad up for sale. Cue outrage from fans and media alike.

To date they have unloaded 3 key players Torres to Man City for an initial fee of £20m think the add-ons would have normally been put into the upfront fee there. Francis Coquelin and Dani Parejo to Villareal for a combined fee of £5m this obviously stings Valencia fans but is the reality of the situation.

There are more clubs in Valencia's situation than say in Chelsea's most are trying to sell as few players as they can get away with to keep the wolf from the door but the truth is many players aren't all that saleable and getting them off a club's wage bill is of paramount.

Premier League 

Cue the tumbleweed gif. Yes, I know Brighton. Aside from Chelsea's splurge not much has happened. The most interesting deal is Pierre-Emile Höjbjerg peak age central mid at a Premier League club with more than one suitor for £15m or a net of £3m when you factor in Walker-Peters going to Southampton. Last summer that would have been £20m plus even allowing for Levy's reputation for parsimony.

Interesting none transfer news, Liverpool's reported dialogue with Norwich over Jamal Lewis.

Liverpool "How much for your boy Lewis"
Norwich "£20m not a penny less".
Liverpool "How about £10m.."
Norwich "$%%$$ right off!!"
Liverpool  "There's no need to take that tone"

48 hours latter Liverpool strike an £11m deal for Konstantinos Tsimikas.

Finally Willian to Arsenal on a free 3 year contract £220k a week on boy that is so bad in a market which is plainly not what it once was.

Overall not much is happening we are at the logjammed point in the market nobody wants to sell nor buy. Yet the lots of sellers who have to sell and a few cash rich clubs that can afford to buy but most the of buyers are waiting for the sellers to blink first.



 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 16, 2020, 01:24:40 AM
Great write up Stan, although the Ramsdale to Sheff Utd fee today might just hint that the market is starting to wake up.

I’m actually really frustrated that Bournemouth are still managing to get incredible fees for their players when nobody else around seems to have. Nearly £60m for 2 players, when over the last 2 years we were only been able to fetch around £22m for our most valuable 4 players, including a player in Johnny Evans who is arguably as good as Nathan Ake (as proved the last 2 years at Leicester). I get the age profiles are different, but it just feels like Bournemouth have been given a get out of jail free card by two incredibly inflated fees at a time nobody expected them.

I still think Sancho will end up at Man Utd for silly money. Woodward is a very poor CEO on the footballing side of the business and he doesn’t quite have the in knack of getting good value. Other clubs see him coming, unlike with Liverpool who have shown with their full back search that they can just move on to other targets who are just as effective very quickly.

Chelsea’s transfer activity suggests they might make for an exciting title race next season and I’m looking forward to seeing Werner and maybe Havertz on a regular basis, but with Lampard in charge it’s hard to tell if he will be good enough to get the best out of them.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 16, 2020, 03:06:17 PM
Great write up Stan, although the Ramsdale to Sheff Utd fee today might just hint that the market is starting to wake up.

I’m actually really frustrated that Bournemouth are still managing to get incredible fees for their players when nobody else around seems to have. Nearly £60m for 2 players, when over the last 2 years we were only been able to fetch around £22m for our most valuable 4 players, including a player in Johnny Evans who is arguably as good as Nathan Ake (as proved the last 2 years at Leicester). I get the age profiles are different, but it just feels like Bournemouth have been given a get out of jail free card by two incredibly inflated fees at a time nobody expected them.

I still think Sancho will end up at Man Utd for silly money. Woodward is a very poor CEO on the footballing side of the business and he doesn’t quite have the in knack of getting good value. Other clubs see him coming, unlike with Liverpool who have shown with their full back search that they can just move on to other targets who are just as effective very quickly.

Chelsea’s transfer activity suggests they might make for an exciting title race next season and I’m looking forward to seeing Werner and maybe Havertz on a regular basis, but with Lampard in charge it’s hard to tell if he will be good enough to get the best out of them.

Thanks, the Ramsdale news broke about an hour finished posting. To say I am staggered is an understatement I know they wanted a keeper because Henderson is not going back to them and United might have sold but only for a dizzying amount of money, it might be only business they do this summer. Never the less that is at least twice as much as it should be.

I hope nobody at Bournemouth thinks that they are doing a good job because they are not. Getting lucky with Ake and Ramsdale covers up a lot of bad deals and takes some of the sting out of a relegation that probably should not have happened. The Evans deal was a badly structured deal but it only became bad if we were relegated.

I think the Sancho deal is dead not because of United side of the deal, you are right they do have a history of talking tough but acting weak but Dortmund have publicly pulled the plug and they do tend to mean what they say  which is why they are much better operators in the market than United. I think United might turn to young Jack next that might be interesting.

Chelsea are obviously spending money and are not finished I expect some new defensive options between now and when the window closes but the question mark has to be Lampard and whether he has the nous to pull the whole thing together.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on August 17, 2020, 05:07:40 PM
Latest from Dutch newspapers; Ronald Koeman almost certain to be named Barca manager.  Ajax hopeful of re-signing Luis Suarez.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 17, 2020, 06:33:09 PM
The Green eyed monster rears it's head for the first time this summer with news that Croatian under 21 International Midfielder Moro has joined Dynamo Moscow for just under £8m he would have been ideal for us. In other Russian news Alfredo Gaich a promising Argentine striker has joined CSKA again for £8m, he was very vaguely linked with ourselves and Leeds a few weeks ago.

While the fees seem reasonable I would caveat that Russian clubs do pay very well and I think overseas sports stars get some pretty significant tax breaks so are often they are quiet attractive for mid level signings such as these and damn it they muddy the waters that the Albion could/should be shopping in. 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 17, 2020, 07:58:14 PM
Russian and Ukrainian clubs have brilliant scouting networks it seems. They always sign some of the best talents before they are superstars.

£8m for Moro shows you can get players for under £10m if you look in Eastern Europe.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on August 17, 2020, 08:57:50 PM
I heard a discussion on the radio the other day (Guillame Ballague, I think) and he was saying that players in Italy only pay 20% tax which is one of the reasons players are going there to the detriment of the Spanish league. I suspect other countries have similar advantages (Turkey / Russia etc)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 17, 2020, 09:06:11 PM
Russian and Ukrainian clubs have brilliant scouting networks it seems. They always sign some of the best talents before they are superstars.

£8m for Moro shows you can get players for under £10m if you look in Eastern Europe.

It does also give them room to become stars and grow at a level not quite as high as some of the Western European leagues.  Dump them in a struggling prem and they might not be ready, worse their development gets completely derailed. Sometimes players need that and I think that has held back some of the English talent over the years.

The above aside, we should still be looking to those markets though.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 20, 2020, 08:20:14 AM
Benfica are the busiest club in Europe and the fees look a little bit chunky and the Vertonghen deal is not the sort of deal that Portuguese clubs generally do i.e. no fee but big wages and no sell on value. . Then I remembered the Joao Felix deal and they are still spending the E160m surplus from last summer.

It is clubs that have particular circumstances and  Champions League revenues that shield them from the worst impacts of the pandemic who are spending "normally" and that is providing just enough liquidity to keep prices surprisingly buoyant. The prospect that fans will be allowed back into stadiums is also giving sellers just enough hope to hold their nerve on price.

Yet this cannot last football clubs in many cases have lost very significant parts of their income the economic impact on many of them who are already not economically sustainable without transfer income therefore they will need to price to sell at some point.

Man United have started to show an interest in David Brooks and Jack Grealish can't see them signing either of those and Sancho (or if they are constructing a team based on logic they shouldn't) the other deal that is an interesting pointer is   Doucoure multiple clubs interested a club that probably needs to sell a player that wants to leave a fee that has potential to blow up.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 28, 2020, 09:12:13 AM
Tumble weed is currently blowing through the top end of the transfer market. Seriously for all talk all the pee and all the wind not a lot is actually happening. When the Pierre-Emile Höjbjerg moved to Spurs on 11th August for £15m it was the 25th biggest deal of the summer. Nearly 3 weeks latter it is the 28th biggest deal.

The 3  bigger deals that have happened are Chilwell to Chelsea, Ramsdale to Sheffield United and former Bolton loanee Rodrigo moving from Valencia to Leeds for a reported £27m. Obviously this breaks Leeds transfer recorded and they get their showing ambition badge but I don't get it.

 Someone tried to explain to me that this was a bargain because Valencia were asking nearly twice the price last summer and he might of joined Barca. Not even Barca were stupid enough to part with more than £50m for this guy and nobody bought him at that price so maybe that tells somebody something.

 Now I am absolutely the last person to look at a striker's goal scoring record and think that it is the last word on anything, but Rodrigo's has had two good seasons in 10 but between those seasons he has been  largely ineffective and it has had two seasons since his last good one. He is 29 and he ain't improving.

If you are Leeds and you have £27m to spend on a striker what you do is go SC Amiens with £13.5m and you buy Serhou Guirassy like Stade Rennais have just done (this week's Green eyed monster alert)

There are slew of deals in the pipeline but then again there seemed to be when I last updated this a week ago and most of those mentioned have not happened. With PL squads back in training maybe things will start to pick up but all is still quiet on the transfer front.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: MarkW on August 29, 2020, 02:46:29 PM
https://theathletic.com/2002693/2020/08/27/money-manager-facilities-how-footballers-really-choose-a-new-club?source=user-shared-article

Really interesting article on The Athletic about the motivations for footballers moving.

Can be summarised by this paragraph:

One agent describes it simply as “the three Fs — football, finance and family”. He adds, “Those will be the defining factors at different stages of their career. So I think there’s a lot more to it than just money.”

Goes to show that sometimes it's not just about who will pay the most, but plenty of other things. Of particular interest to me is how some clubs present themselves to players using analysis to show how the player will fit in/be developed
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 29, 2020, 07:02:50 PM
https://theathletic.com/2002693/2020/08/27/money-manager-facilities-how-footballers-really-choose-a-new-club?source=user-shared-article

Really interesting article on The Athletic about the motivations for footballers moving.

Can be summarised by this paragraph:

One agent describes it simply as “the three Fs — football, finance and family”. He adds, “Those will be the defining factors at different stages of their career. So I think there’s a lot more to it than just money.”

Goes to show that sometimes it's not just about who will pay the most, but plenty of other things. Of particular interest to me is how some clubs present themselves to players using analysis to show how the player will fit in/be developed
It is all about the money....e copy when it’s not, but still is

For instance if 5 teams all came in for Pererira at the end of next season and 4 of them (Wolfsburg,RB Leipzig,Everton and Lyon ) all offered 100k a week....and Barca offered 80k a week ...where would he go
However
If the 4 all offered the same, Barca offered 42k a week but Lyon had made it clear that his family would be well looked after and his mom and dad could have an house....then he’d probably go to Lyon

I think it’s easy for reporters to say statements like “it’s not about the money”....especially when there are multiple clubs after you and you know that the parameters of the offers they make are going to be serious money anyway.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 29, 2020, 10:58:47 PM
In the Sun tommorow

Leeds and Brighton fighting it out for Rico Henry
Villa offering Watkins 70k pw to outbid Fulham. Also want Behrama.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 30, 2020, 08:29:49 AM
Fulham well and truely throwing CoVID caution to the wind. The Helda Costa money, £27m plus add ons for Rodrigo, £16m for Koch and then you have the £20m they owe for Augustin which they will almost certainly end up having to pay in the next 12 months.

I guess they are confident they will stay up and therefore can afford it.

Feels certain that Watkins will sign for Villa too, which should be a good signing.

I don't blame the Albion for being cautious with money in this window as it's sensible, but with our rivals all strengthening, i'd say our chances of staying up are fairly slim. Really now need to have a ling term think and use this transfer window to sign players with one eye on the future. Let's build for long term survival.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 30, 2020, 08:42:59 AM
Fulham well and truely throwing CoVID caution to the wind. The Helda Costa money, £27m plus add ons for Rodrigo, £16m for Koch and then you have the £20m they owe for Augustin which they will almost certainly end up having to pay in the next 12 months.

I guess they are confident they will stay up and therefore can afford it.

Feels certain that Watkins will sign for Villa too, which should be a good signing.

I don't blame the Albion for being cautious with money in this window as it's sensible, but with our rivals all strengthening, i'd say our chances of staying up are fairly slim. Really now need to have a ling term think and use this transfer window to sign players with one eye on the future. Let's build for long term survival.

Isn’t it funny though that when Fulham spent £120m and went down, and villa spent loads and scraped on the last day....people said it was wasteful....now because it’s all about knocking ourselves , they are speculating .

We could go and spend £200m if e wanted, it brings no guarantees and whilst I am clever enough to see we need additions and some investment, I’m not going to dance myself dizzy moaning that every signing might not be a big enough spend or the player that I wanted.
Every single year of following this club there has been a higher spend player that hasn’t quite done what we thought, and a lower spend/ free signing that has excelled.
After pullis, Pardew and Covid I just want to watch football being played well and people back in stadiums enjoying the match day experience.....if at the end we get relegated, then I look forward to Swansea/Preston away and even more football matches .
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: boinging_along on August 30, 2020, 09:14:09 AM
What's the alternative?  Don't spend, accept relegation and that Peace was right and we're nothing more than a mid table championship team? No thank you, that's small time and I have more belief in Albion than that.

Every club will have signings that succeed and some that don't.  Thr ones who stand the best chance tend to be the ones that come with a price tag.

What's even more concerning is that other clubs seem to have money to spend while we just make excuses.  We must be thr only football team in the Prem who is financially worse off on thr Prem than in the Championship.

When the clubs around us are stengthening it makes our job even harder.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on August 30, 2020, 01:39:16 PM
Have you ever been in the bookies and seen the bloke betting on anything and everything. He will fairly regularly shout out as he wins, but he leaves the bookies worse off, whereas the bloke who comes in now and then and quietly leaves with a moderate win is the bloke the bookie hates.

I prefer to think of us as the latter
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: MarkW on August 30, 2020, 02:25:36 PM
What's the alternative?  Don't spend, accept relegation and that Peace was right and we're nothing more than a mid table championship team? No thank you, that's small time and I have more belief in Albion than that.

Every club will have signings that succeed and some that don't.  Thr ones who stand the best chance tend to be the ones that come with a price tag.

What's even more concerning is that other clubs seem to have money to spend while we just make excuses.  We must be thr only football team in the Prem who is financially worse off on thr Prem than in the Championship.

When the clubs around us are stengthening it makes our job even harder.

Wages tend to be a better predictor of success, rather than transfer fee. Teams with the highest wage bills tend to, on average, have more success in the long term.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 30, 2020, 09:08:14 PM
Donny Van de Beek has agreed a 5-year contract to sign for Manchester United. The 23-year old will now fly to Manchester to complete the formalities of the move and undergo his medical. (Source: De Telegraaf)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2020, 09:36:04 PM
Fulham have just officialy confirmed Reed on a 4 year deal for 8m and Lemina on a season loan for £2m.

Good business.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 30, 2020, 09:50:38 PM
Leeds are in talks to sign Joško Gvardiol for around €20m from Dinamo Zagreb and are in negotiations with Udinese for the signing of Rodrigo de Paul for €30/35m. (Source: @FabrizioRomano)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2020, 10:01:02 PM
If they sign Rodrigo de Paul i'll be very impressed. Those 2 if signed will push them onto around the 120m mark with plenty of window left.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on August 30, 2020, 10:03:00 PM
 :o Leeds could be very good under Bielsa next season. Wouldn’t surprise me if they’re top 8
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 30, 2020, 10:39:52 PM
DEAL DONE: Fulham have signed Mario Lemina on a season-long deal from Southampton, with an option to make the move permanent. (Source: @FulhamFC)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on August 30, 2020, 11:51:37 PM
Donny Van de Beek has agreed a 5-year contract to sign for Manchester United. The 23-year old will now fly to Manchester to complete the formalities of the move and undergo his medical. (Source: De Telegraaf)
Damn it. Probably Ajax's most creative player. Man U will be very hard to stop both here and in Europe. Don't you just hate 'em.  >:(
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 31, 2020, 08:26:56 AM
Damn it. Probably Ajax's most creative player. Man U will be very hard to stop both here and in Europe. Don't you just hate 'em.  >:(

It is all the more frustrating when you realise that a player of Van De Beek's quality is going in as a squad option rather than an automatic first choice. I do wonder whether this will end United's interest in Grealish.

Yes I absolutely do hate them.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 31, 2020, 09:33:40 AM
I did hate them, but not anymore..

For wahoo is worth I think it will be very tight at the top this season
1 citeh
2 yanited
3 chelski
4 cheating scousers
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hull Baggie on August 31, 2020, 10:01:41 AM
Fulham well and truely throwing CoVID caution to the wind. The Helda Costa money, £27m plus add ons for Rodrigo, £16m for Koch and then you have the £20m they owe for Augustin which they will almost certainly end up having to pay in the next 12 months.


Am I missing something, don't all those players play for Leeds? What's that got to do with Fulham?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 31, 2020, 07:50:48 PM
Napoli midfielder Allan has said his goodbyes at the Italian club ahead of his £24.3m move to Everton. (Source: Sky Italy)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: baggies_24 on August 31, 2020, 08:11:00 PM
Think the Van de Beek transfer for £40m might be the best bit of business of the window, brilliant midfielder one of those like Modric who looks like he has all day on the ball. Also means Pogba needs to be at it every game rather than having his usual 6 games of been a world class player followed by 3 months of doing absolutely nothing as he’l be straight out of the team the minute his form dips.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 31, 2020, 08:47:17 PM
Nottingham Forest full-back Matty Cash is close to a £15m move to Aston Villa.

The player and Villa have already agreed personal terms.

(Source: Independent)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 31, 2020, 09:29:43 PM
A team in Saudi Arabia, thought to be Al-Nassr, and an unnamed club in Qatar are keen on signing Mesut Ozil
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 31, 2020, 09:38:44 PM
Think the Van de Beek transfer for £40m might be the best bit of business of the window, brilliant midfielder one of those like Modric who looks like he has all day on the ball. Also means Pogba needs to be at it every game rather than having his usual 6 games of been a world class player followed by 3 months of doing absolutely nothing as he’l be straight out of the team the minute his form dips.
I think Pogba is off....VDB isn’t defensive enough for him to play in a 3 ....so they sell Pogba and play VDB with Fernandez and Matic or Fred .
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: seteefeet on August 31, 2020, 09:51:46 PM
Nottingham Forest full-back Matty Cash is close to a £15m move to Aston Villa.

The player and Villa have already agreed personal terms.

(Source: Independent)
Gutted if he goes there. His uncle is a very good friend so I've always followed his career and wanted him to do well. He's a really nice lad as well.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 31, 2020, 11:20:06 PM
Am I missing something, don't all those players play for Leeds? What's that got to do with Fulham?

It has been a long weekend. Put wrong club but meant Leeds.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 01, 2020, 06:46:49 AM
Think the Van de Beek transfer for £40m might be the best bit of business of the window, brilliant midfielder one of those like Modric who looks like he has all day on the ball. Also means Pogba needs to be at it every game rather than having his usual 6 games of been a world class player followed by 3 months of doing absolutely nothing as he’l be straight out of the team the minute his form dips.

I don't think about United in any great detail but I was listening to a podcast that was discussing this and they made a good point if Van de Beek is pushing anyone for a place in the line up it is Fernandes. As good as Van De Beek is there is a strong argument that they have bought the wrong midfielder they need an upgrade at 6. They have bodies Fred, Matic and McTominay but none that are elite level in that role.

Even more frustrating £40m on the wrong player.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 02, 2020, 08:44:34 PM
Gareth Bale: Wales and Real Madrid star open to Premier League return

Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54001703

We need a wide player  :D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 02, 2020, 09:09:26 PM
Newcastle are on the verge of completing the signing of free agent Ryan Fraser. The ex-Bournemouth winger has rejected Crystal Palace to join the Toon. (Source: talkSPORT)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Webby on September 02, 2020, 11:59:10 PM
Villa signing Romero the GK from Man Utd for 8m. Good bit of business that.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on September 03, 2020, 12:07:36 AM
Villa signing Romero the GK from Man Utd for 8m. Good bit of business that.
so they have what, 5 keepers now?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hull Baggie on September 03, 2020, 10:35:37 AM
Villa signing Romero the GK from Man Utd for 8m. Good bit of business that.

Bit premature with this I think. Can't see anything stating that a deal has been done. I've seen reference to Man Utd wanting to make Romero part of a deal for Grealish but that's all.

According to OPTA they already have 4 goalkeepers  Heaton, Nyland, Kalinic and Steer.

https://www.bing.com/search?FORM=QISBDL&PC=QI01&q=aston+Villa+goalkeepers
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Webby on September 03, 2020, 12:51:40 PM
Saw it on Twitter last night and everyone wishing him well at Villa so assumed it had been done!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hull Baggie on September 03, 2020, 02:25:10 PM
Bristol City interested in Brunt.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-target-former-west-4480797
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 03, 2020, 07:38:39 PM
Looking at the Bristol City squad Brunt wouldn't be a bad addition.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hull Baggie on September 04, 2020, 08:49:21 AM
Looking at the Bristol City squad Brunt wouldn't be a bad addition.

Yeah I think his experience would be a bonus to them. I was surprised as I just assumed he would link up with Michael O'Neill at Stoke.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: skyclad99 on September 04, 2020, 09:09:22 AM
Being widely reported that Kai Havertz is moving to Chelsea for £90m. So looking forward to seeing him play in the PL, one hell of a player.......if you do FF leagues then make sure he is in your team!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hull Baggie on September 04, 2020, 10:59:29 AM
Being widely reported that Kai Havertz is moving to Chelsea for £90m. So looking forward to seeing him play in the PL, one hell of a player......if you do FF leagues then make sure he is in your team!


against everyone one else but us!

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 04, 2020, 11:33:29 AM
John Percy Twitter Account

As per reports elsewhere, Aston Villa have made a £15m, plus £5m in add ons, offer for Callum Wilson. I'm told Bournemouth want a £17m fixed fee
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 04, 2020, 11:34:57 AM
John Percy Twitter Account

As per reports elsewhere, Aston Villa have made a £15m, plus £5m in add ons, offer for Callum Wilson. I'm told Bournemouth want a £17m fixed fee

This would be the best bit of business Villa have done in recent memory. Hopefully it falls through.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: wba1993dave on September 04, 2020, 11:36:30 AM
This would be the best bit of business Villa have done in recent memory. Hopefully it falls through.

Not sure on him myself. On big wages too. Also 28 so no re-sale value. Rather have Grant.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on September 04, 2020, 11:50:48 AM
John Percy Twitter Account

As per reports elsewhere, Aston Villa have made a £15m, plus £5m in add ons, offer for Callum Wilson. I'm told Bournemouth want a £17m fixed fee
Snip at that price. Proven premier league striker for approx the same price as Grant who at this stage is just potential at this level. We should just put a sneaky price match bid in to get up their snouts
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on September 04, 2020, 11:52:06 AM
This would be the best bit of business Villa have done in recent memory. Hopefully it falls through.

And we were offered him when was in his late teens.....
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 04, 2020, 12:00:03 PM
John Percy Twitter Account

As per reports elsewhere, Aston Villa have made a £15m, plus £5m in add ons, offer for Callum Wilson. I'm told Bournemouth want a £17m fixed fee

At that price Spurs need to go get him as a rotational option for Kane. It works perfectly for both players and the club. 

Kane while still being first choice has to manage his minutes if he wants a career that stretches  beyond 30 at elite level and Wilson can either spend the next 4 years splashing around with Villa in the shallow end of the pool or he can go to the deep end and compete with the big boys for medals even if that isn't as first choice. He would still get plenty of game time.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Webby on September 04, 2020, 01:16:24 PM
Snip at that price. Proven premier league striker for approx the same price as Grant who at this stage is just potential at this level. We should just put a sneaky price match bid in to get up their snouts

As funny as that would be I imagine Grant wages would be 30-40k p/w and Wilson you're looking at double.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on September 04, 2020, 01:34:20 PM
Snip at that price. Proven premier league striker for approx the same price as Grant who at this stage is just potential at this level. We should just put a sneaky price match bid in to get up their snouts

At 22 CW had a less impressive record than Grant. It was also 4 years later he hit got anything more than a modest number of goals in the prem. last year in a struggling side he got 7.  Add the fact he’s had a couple of real bad injuries and his wage demands will be higher and I think I’d rather gamble with Grant who is on an upward curve and will have longevity and re-sale value.

I would use CW’s £17m price as reason to not to justify Grant being cheaper though, or at least only going up to £17m with add ons.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: seteefeet on September 04, 2020, 01:56:15 PM
This would be the best bit of business Villa have done in recent memory. Hopefully it falls through.
Might be biased but I think Matty Cash is better value at that money. Cracking little player, who will only get better.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 04, 2020, 02:09:06 PM
 BREAKING: La Liga have announced that the €700m buyout clause in Lionel Messi's contract is still valid.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 04, 2020, 02:14:51 PM
Might be biased but I think Matty Cash is better value at that money. Cracking little player, who will only get better.

Championship player. Came across as a **** after our games too.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: seteefeet on September 04, 2020, 02:27:34 PM
Championship player. Came across as a **** after our games too.
Time will tell.
His dad’s from Tipton and all his family are Albion, so gutted he’s gone there but think he’ll do well. Hopefully we’ll enough to bin them off when they go down.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 04, 2020, 03:46:12 PM
Lionel Messi will announce today that he'll be staying at Barcelona. Shocker. (Source:
@moillorens
)


Who'd of thunk it  :D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 04, 2020, 05:05:41 PM
BREAKING: Lionel Messi has announced he will be staying with Barcelona for the 2020/21 season. (Source: Goal)

Much Ado About Nothing, as the bard would say
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on September 04, 2020, 05:08:20 PM
BREAKING: Lionel Messi has announced he will be staying with Barcelona for the 2020/21 season. (Source: Goal)
I bet Jake will be missing his chance to do some man-to-man marking  :-[
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 04, 2020, 05:10:43 PM
BREAKING: Lionel Messi has announced he will be staying with Barcelona for the 2020/21 season. (Source: Goal)

Much Ado About Nothing, as the bard would say

He will never leave Full Stop!!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 04, 2020, 05:12:14 PM
Messi:

“I thought and was sure that I was free to leave, the president always said that at the end of the season I could decide if I stayed or not. Now they cling to the fact that I did not say it before June 10."
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 04, 2020, 05:13:20 PM
 Messi:

“There was another way and it was to go to trial. Barcelona gave me everything and I gave it everything. I know that it never crossed my mind to take Barca to court.”
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on September 04, 2020, 05:16:02 PM
Have you ever considered taking up a hobby  ;D ?

Ed: ..... or is posting updates said hobby  ;) ?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 04, 2020, 05:25:49 PM
Have you ever considered taking up a hobby  ;D ?

I have that much time on my hands just lately that I'm open to reasonable, appropriate, conventional, legitimate, sedate (my age), non reproductive or associated fields activities suggestions. Hopefully that's covered all conventional and non sadistic or sadomasochistic, debased activities and if I've missed anything, take it as read  ;)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 04, 2020, 05:27:26 PM
The actual announcement is a hand grenade with the pin pulled out

Lionel Messi to Goal: "I wasn't happy and I wanted to leave. I have not been allowed this in any way and I will STAY at the club so as not to get into a legal dispute. The management of the club led by Bartomeu is a disaster"

In other words I have no faith in the management and I am only staying because I don't want to be embroiled in a legal dispute.

I think Barcelona and Messi might just be better off putting and end to the soap opera and agreeing an amicable split of the CD collection.



Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 04, 2020, 05:32:09 PM
The actual announcement is a hand grenade with the pin pulled out

Lionel Messi to Goal: "I wasn't happy and I wanted to leave. I have not been allowed this in any way and I will STAY at the club so as not to get into a legal dispute. The management of the club led by Bartomeu is a disaster"

In other words I have no faith in the management and I am only staying because I don't want to be embroiled in a legal dispute.

I think Barcelona and Messi might just be better off putting and end to the soap opera and agreeing an amicable split of the CD collection.

They will have a new President very soon, the current favourite being Víctor Font, he will ensure that Messi concludes his playing career at Barca for sure
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 04, 2020, 05:36:28 PM
Messi: “When I communicated my wish to leave to my wife and children, it was a brutal drama.

The whole family began crying, my children did not want to leave Barcelona."

(Source: Goal)

It really is as good as any soap opera you could ever wish to watch, not that I watch any of course  :)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 04, 2020, 05:41:52 PM

Ed: ..... or is posting updates said hobby  ;) ?

So, that's it? I sit here all day slaving over a "hot chip" and that's all the thanks I get, well, well,  I'm leaving.

Wait, no I wont, because, because............................... because I wont!  :D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 04, 2020, 08:07:55 PM
West Ham are in for Burnley defender James Tarkowski. Bid of around £20m with big add-ons turned down but another offer is expected. Spending the Diangana money... #whufc
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 04, 2020, 08:15:28 PM
DEAL DONE: Chelsea have signed Kai Havertz from Bayer Leverkusen for an initial £72m on a 5-year contract. (Source: @ChelseaFC)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on September 04, 2020, 08:35:36 PM
DEAL DONE: Chelsea have signed Kai Havertz from Bayer Leverkusen for an initial £72m on a 5-year contract. (Source: @ChelseaFC)
Even more reason for Chelsea looking to offload Batshuayi.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 04, 2020, 09:40:59 PM
Not the main news tonight, but hey, let’s be magnanimous  :D

DEAL DONE: Arsenal have signed Dani Ceballos from Real Madrid on a season-long loan.

"Dani Ceballos, Dani Ceballos. He drinks Estrella, he eats Paella, the boy's ******* magic."
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 05, 2020, 06:08:22 AM
Not the main news tonight, but hey, let’s be magnanimous  :D

DEAL DONE: Arsenal have signed Dani Ceballos from Real Madrid on a season-long loan.

"Dani Ceballos, Dani Ceballos. He drinks Estrella, he eats Paella, the boy's ****** magic."

Considering his diet he does well to get out on the pitch at all. Good signing for Arsenal never like to see a big 6 side getting their act together.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 05, 2020, 12:16:40 PM
Aston Villa have now upped their bid to £21m for Bournemouth striker Callum Wilson.

According to reports, the player would prefer a move to Newcastle.

I would as well  :D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 05, 2020, 12:17:19 PM
DEAL DONE: Everton have confirmed the signing of Allan from Napoli for a reported fee of £21m on a long-term deal. (Source:
@Everton
)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: MarkW on September 05, 2020, 01:10:54 PM
Everton spending a lot of good players but no resale value. Allan and Rodriguez both 29...going to be hard to shift in two or three years time.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 05, 2020, 02:22:24 PM
Wolverhampton are set to sign Fabio Silva from Porto. Agreement to be reached around €40m + add ons - as per @Record_Portugal
. The young striker has accepted to move to PL, medicals already scheduled. Here we go!
🤝
🐺
 #Wolves #Porto #transfers"
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 05, 2020, 02:54:27 PM
Wolverhampton are set to sign Fabio Silva from Porto. Agreement to be reached around €40m + add ons - as per @Record_Portugal
. The young striker has accepted to move to PL, medicals already scheduled. Here we go!
🤝
🐺
 #Wolves #Porto #transfers"

Traore or Jiminez sale imminent then.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 05, 2020, 03:07:35 PM
For anyone else that missed it, like I did, Shane Duffy has gone on a season long loan to Celtic
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 05, 2020, 03:17:43 PM
I have had longer lunches than Fabio Silva's senior career. Happy to accept that he has talent but this looks way over the top and if this results in the sale of one of the Wolves better players then eyebrows should be raised.   
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: kevinr61 on September 05, 2020, 03:41:41 PM
Wolves have sold players for about £75m this summer (Costa, Cavaleiro, Doherty, Cutrone) so I don’t think they need to sell and would be surprised if any of their top players leave.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on September 05, 2020, 03:48:07 PM
I saw a story a few days ago suggesting Fabio Silva was the next Ronaldo. Interesting signing, but then Joao Felix was the next Ronaldo too and he’s struggled to hit the heights expected of him so far.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 05, 2020, 05:29:54 PM
Flip me that was fast. Officially signed on their site.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 05, 2020, 05:33:40 PM
Leeds interested in Rafinha from Barca. 14m
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 05, 2020, 08:17:56 PM
Fulham defender Alfie Mawson is expected to complete a season-long loan move to Bristol City in the next 24-48 hours. (Source: Sky Sports)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 05, 2020, 08:23:00 PM
Barcelona have reportedly agreed a €25m deal with Lyon for Dutch forward Memphis Depay. (Source: La Vanguardia)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 05, 2020, 08:34:02 PM
Georginio Wijnaldum's agent is closing in on an agreement for his client to join Barcelona this summer. (Source: Daily Star)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 05, 2020, 09:21:03 PM
Thiago Alcântara has said his goodbyes to his Bayern Munich teammates as he prepares to leave the treble winners. (Source: BILD)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: kevinr61 on September 05, 2020, 09:23:08 PM
Fulham defender Alfie Mawson is expected to complete a season-long loan move to Bristol City in the next 24-48 hours. (Source: Sky Sports)

His career has really nosedived....2 years ago he was on the fringes of the England squad, now on the way to a mid table Champ club!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 06, 2020, 09:09:13 AM
BREAKING: Newcastle have had a £20m bid accepted from Bournemouth for Callum Wilson.

Aston Villa have now withdrawn from the race because the striker wants to move to the North East.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 06, 2020, 10:00:44 AM
Thiago Alcântara has said his goodbyes to his Bayern Munich teammates as he prepares to leave the treble winners. (Source: BILD)

Liverpool have told Barcelona it will cost them £15m to land Gini Wijnaldum. (Source: Sunday Mirror)

Manchester United are preparing to sign Dayot Upamecano from RB Leipzig next year with a £38m release clause becoming active in June 2021. (Source: Daily Star)

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 06, 2020, 10:38:35 AM
Thought I'd do a quick summary of completed deals as opposed to the "imminent"  ones.

A deal that seems to been imminent for the whole summer got done last week when Kai Havertz became the latest acquisition in Chelsea's trolley dash through Harrods. This is not all bad news for the rest of the league as no doubt this will push out some good young talent from the Chelsea squad that will strengthen other clubs.

There is a cottage industry in Portugal that will produce at least one next Ronaldo every year for the next 20 years. The latest off the production line is 18 year old Fábio Silva who joined Wolves for a staggering £36m we will wait and see, there is nothing to go on. I'm skeptical but then again I always am.

Gabriel Magalhães joined Arsenal from Lille that is a good signing young already a very accomplished defender and will only get better with experience.

Everton seem to be in the process of buying a whole new midfield and the first one through the door is Allan from Napoli. This is very Everton can't fault the ambition (they have their showing ambition badge now for 4 years in a row.) but how joined up is the thinking I'm not sure. Ancelotti is a wizard and if anyone can do something with the amorphous blob of a squad then it's him.

In football hipster news Timothy Castagne landed in Leicester from every football hipsters favourite team  Atalanta in the wake of Chiwell's departure reported as a replacement but strictly isn't being a Right Back or Wing back who occasionally has played Left Wing back. But Atalanta have such a degree of positional flexibility who knows where he actually played it's like a zen thing man. Sure that's going to work out fine.

Something I noticed on the outbound transfers Aaron Mooy has left Brighton after just one season to continue his itinerant playing career in China. New South Wales to Shanghai via Bolton and St Mirren and lots of other stops along the way.

Green eyed monster corner is closed this week nothing that's happened out there that I think Albion should have or could have done.

Squad bloat there is a lot of it about. When the Premier League restarts next weekend there are going to be a lot of players in the stands (can they even be in the stands?)  wondering exactly where their careers are heading. Things will get interesting and the loan market will start to get busy.



 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 06, 2020, 11:26:00 AM
Spurs in for Watkins
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 06, 2020, 11:55:20 AM
BREAKING: Newcastle have had a £20m bid accepted from Bournemouth for Callum Wilson.

Aston Villa have now withdrawn from the race because the striker wants to move to the North East.

I'm sorry for not translating this for you all earlier, but here we go "he wanted to go to a bigger club"  :D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 06, 2020, 06:39:06 PM
DEAL DONE: Wolves have signed Marçal on a two-year contract from Lyon. (Source: @Wolves)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 06, 2020, 08:08:51 PM
Fulham and Torino have agreed a loan deal for Nigeria full back, Ola Aina. The transfer includes an option to buy next summer. (Source: @FabrizioRomano)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 07, 2020, 09:18:04 AM
Newcastle have agreed a £15M + add ons deal to sign Jamal Lewis from Norwich. He will undergo his medical in the next few days. (Source:
@David_Ornstein
)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 07, 2020, 12:14:15 PM
Callum Wilson's £20m move to Newcastle completed. Good news for England, although it's a hefty fee.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: smethwickw on September 07, 2020, 12:49:28 PM
Callum Wilson's £20m move to Newcastle completed. Good news for England, although it's a hefty fee.

Ryan Fraser off to Newcastle too. A couple of good signings there.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 07, 2020, 02:34:21 PM
Villa offering 20m for Brewster.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 07, 2020, 05:07:50 PM
DEAL DONE: Newcastle have signed Ryan Fraser on a free transfer after he left Bournemouth in June. He’s signed a 5-year contract. (Source:
@NUFC)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: royhan on September 07, 2020, 07:15:15 PM
Villa offering 20m for Brewster.

Brewster is a huge talent. I can’t see Liverpool releasing him, apart from on loan.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 07, 2020, 07:17:04 PM
Brewster is a huge talent. I can’t see Liverpool releasing him, apart from on loan.

Liverpool are planning on keeping him but open to moving him on if a big bid comes in according to journos on Twitter.

The lad himself does want to stay at Liverpool
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 07, 2020, 07:20:17 PM
Brunt has signed for Bristol City according to local journo. To be announced shortly apparently
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 07, 2020, 07:23:12 PM
DEAL DONE: Sheffield United have signed Jayden Bogle and Max Lowe from Derby on long-term contracts. (Source: @SheffieldUnited)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 07, 2020, 08:11:18 PM
Everton officially sign James Rodrigeuz from Madrid for 22m
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Nocky on September 07, 2020, 08:18:48 PM
I haven't heard much on the Benrahma, Ollie Watkins front....£25m a piece seems pretty steep to me!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 07, 2020, 08:37:02 PM
DEAL DONE: Sheffield United have sealed a season-long loan move for Chelsea defender Ethan Ampadu. (Source: @SheffieldUnited)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: royhan on September 07, 2020, 08:52:45 PM
DEAL DONE: Sheffield United have sealed a season-long loan move for Chelsea defender Ethan Ampadu. (Source: @SheffieldUnited)

It’s all gone quiet on the Burke- Robinson swap
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 07, 2020, 08:59:28 PM
It’s all gone quiet on the Burke- Robinson swap

Burke on international duty.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 07, 2020, 09:33:58 PM
"WBA Report
@WBAReport
·
25m
Oliver Burke was granted permission to finalise his move to #SUFC by Scotland manager Steve Clarke, after spending the weekend on Nations League duty.

Callum Robinson is set to join #WBA in exchange. Deal should be completed this week.

[@JamesShield1
]"
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on September 07, 2020, 09:36:56 PM
"WBA Report
@WBAReport
·
25m
Oliver Burke was granted permission to finalise his move to #SUFC by Scotland manager Steve Clarke, after spending the weekend on Nations League duty.

Callum Robinson is set to join #WBA in exchange. Deal should be completed this week.

[@JamesShield1
]"

makes me think Sheff U could be the new Stoke City
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 07, 2020, 10:04:53 PM
John Percy Twitter Account

Aston Vile set to make £16m bid for Bournemouth striker Joshua King after Callum Wilson joins Newcastle
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 07, 2020, 10:05:01 PM
Villa going for Josh King from Bournemouth now they missed out on Wilson. 16m.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 07, 2020, 11:28:35 PM
Bournemouth making an absolute killing on player sales. They looked in trouble at one stage but by my reckoning they will have made around £95m if they let King go.

Makes me think we really got done over in the sales we made over the last 2 seasons. Shows why it's worth speculating on Diangana though.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 07, 2020, 11:36:43 PM
Wolves in for Alex Telles from Porto. Man Utd also in talks.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: MarkW on September 08, 2020, 12:00:05 AM
Villa going for Josh King from Bournemouth now they missed out on Wilson. 16m.

Odd one from Villa. Miss out on a number 9 so go and buy a 10 from the same club.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 08, 2020, 12:05:55 AM
Rumours are they are in a bit of a panic as missed out on all first choice targets so far apart from Watkins who has yet to decide.

Think they are focusing on the UK market after last year's disastrous foray into the Euro market.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 08, 2020, 07:03:41 AM
Bournemouth making an absolute killing on player sales. They looked in trouble at one stage but by my reckoning they will have made around £95m if they let King go.

Makes me think we really got done over in the sales we made over the last 2 seasons. Shows why it's worth speculating on Diangana though.

I think it is a combination of Bournemouth being somewhat fortunate and ourselves being the victim of earlier decisions which greatly reduced our income.

Looking at Bournemouth sales

Ake £40m which was sought of defined by the buy back clause that was in the contract and there was interest from the only 2 clubs that might pay £40m i.e. Chelsea and Man City. He goes anywhere else and they don't get anything like £40m. Compare that to Evans who while attracted interest from Man City was sold to Leicester for his release clause of £4m.

Wilson £20m from Newcastle while is considerably less than they were asking 12 months ago is pretty decent considering his age injury record and patchy form in the last year. The irony he is of a similar age and ability level as Rondon who Newcastle baulked at paying a £16m release clause for two windows ago.

Ramsdale £18m For a rooky keeper with some obvious flaws in his game okay he is young so will improve but Sheffield United have paid way too much. Contrast with the £2.8m we got for Foster which is low but reflects where Foster was in his career at the time and probably at the very least fair on a player who I think only had one year on his contract at the time but had done well for the club for a number of years.

We aren't comparing apples with apples here but our fees if they weren't constrained by release clauses would have been more and Bournemouth have been somewhat fortunate.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on September 08, 2020, 07:20:26 AM
Bournemouth may have had a little fortune, but ensuring contracts have appropriate buy out clauses is also good management. Perhaps we have been a little negligent with ours in the past.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hull Baggie on September 08, 2020, 09:06:14 AM
Burke on international duty.

so was Robinson. He was a sub in both the Bulgaria & Finland matches.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 08, 2020, 09:52:49 AM
West Ham are preparing an improved £30m plus add-ons offer for Burnley's England defender James Tarkowski.

However, the Clarets want £50m if they are to part with the 27-year-old centre-back.

(Source: Sky Sports)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on September 08, 2020, 09:55:48 AM
West Ham are preparing an improved £30m plus add-ons offer for Burnley's England defender James Tarkowski.

However, the Clarets want £50m if they are to part with the 27-year-old centre-back.

(Source: Sky Sports)

I like Tarkowski, but those are crazy numbers
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 08, 2020, 01:40:19 PM
Watkins to Villa, £28m rising to £33m. Astronomical money for a player who has only ever played football league. He might turn out to be one of the best English strikers around but that is a huge gamble.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 08, 2020, 01:43:01 PM
Wheres that link mate?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: tommcneill on September 08, 2020, 01:50:38 PM
Watkins to Villa, £28m rising to £33m. Astronomical money for a player who has only ever played football league. He might turn out to be one of the best English strikers around but that is a huge gamble.

Ive just seen that....im sorry but thats ridiculous money.

Hes a good player but £33m good? I dont think so...

Looks Villa have panicked and just offered an amount no other club will to get a striker
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 08, 2020, 01:51:49 PM
They are looking to burn over 100m again so expect a few more deals like this ofr Villa
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 08, 2020, 01:56:28 PM
Aston Villa are on the verge of completing a deal for Brentford striker Ollie Watkins.

The initial fee is £28m which could rise to £33m with add-ons.

John Percy Twitter Account
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on September 08, 2020, 02:08:05 PM
Aston Villa are on the verge of completing a deal for Brentford striker Ollie Watkins.

The initial fee is £28m which could rise to £33m with add-ons.

John Percy Twitter Account
If that goes through, I think they will finally have got it right in their quest for a striker, after what they blew on transfer fees over the last couple of years. Sadly, I can see that the fee mentioned would be out of our range, unless we had not done the Dianga deal.   
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 08, 2020, 02:09:22 PM
Aston Villa are on the verge of completing a deal for Brentford striker Ollie Watkins.

The initial fee is £28m which could rise to £33m with add-ons.

John Percy Twitter Account

Phil McNulty not the Perce.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: smethwickw on September 08, 2020, 02:15:53 PM
Aston Villa are on the verge of completing a deal for Brentford striker Ollie Watkins.

The initial fee is £28m which could rise to £33m with add-ons.

John Percy Twitter Account

I keep hearing about post Covid prices but I'm yet to see any real bargains. That kind of money is ludicrous.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 08, 2020, 02:24:53 PM
Phil McNulty not the Perce.

Percy confirms, with a tweet at 14.11.  :D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: DaveWBA on September 08, 2020, 02:33:46 PM
£28m for Ollie Watkins is an absolute backside kicking.

Also, Alex Telles strongly linked with Wolves. Another Mendes special, tough when you know you can't compete with the resources of the team finishing 7th in the league. We used to finish top half with a team of free transfers and rejects. How times change.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on September 08, 2020, 03:37:49 PM
£28m for Ollie Watkins is an absolute backside kicking.

Also, Alex Telles strongly linked with Wolves. Another Mendes special, tough when you know you can't compete with the resources of the team finishing 7th in the league. We used to finish top half with a team of free transfers and rejects. How times change.
Meaning? Villa paid over the odds?
Sadly, I think they've got themselves one of the best goalscorers for the PL. Just hope we don't see him trotting away celebrating having bulged the net at the Smethwick End, but wouldn't surprise me at all.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 08, 2020, 03:45:29 PM
Meaning? Villa paid over the odds?
Sadly, I think they've got themselves one of the best goalscorers for the PL. Just hope we don't see him trotting away celebrating having bulged the net at the Smethwick End, but wouldn't surprise me at all.

He's never kicked a ball in anger at the top level of any countries league system.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on September 08, 2020, 03:49:47 PM
He's never kicked a ball in anger at the top level of any countries league system.
True, but he's got pace and mobility which is crucial, and more of it than any of the other names we're being linked with. (P.S. I know Burke has pace and mobility, but sadly too many of the other basics missing).  :'(
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 08, 2020, 03:55:41 PM
Fulham going wing back crazy. Following in from Robinson, they are now close to signing Ola Aina from Torino and duth international Tete from Lyon.

They already had the very decent Joe Bryan, so feels lile a bit of an overload.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 08, 2020, 03:58:17 PM
True, but he's got pace and mobility which is crucial, and more of it than any of the other names we're being linked with. (P.S. I know Burke has pace and mobility, but sadly too many of the other basics missing).  :'(

Just a bit of a stretch to say one of the best goalscorers in the PL as if they've signed Kane, Vardy or Aguero.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on September 08, 2020, 04:00:25 PM
Fulham going wing back crazy. Following in from Robinson, they are now close to signing Ola Aina from Torino and duth international Tete from Lyon.

They already had the very decent Joe Bryan, so feels lile a bit of an overload.
Tete is an excellent right back, another from the Ajax school. But Fulham are looking a bit overloaded for choice.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 08, 2020, 04:01:09 PM
Crystal Palace are in talks with Chelsea over signing striker Michy Batshuayi on a season-long loan.

Batshuayi is expected to sign a one-year contract extension at Chelsea before going on loan.

(Source: Sky Sports)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 08, 2020, 04:24:41 PM
Everton are set to continue their summer transfer business by securing the loan signing of Chelsea defender Fikayo Tomori. (Source: ESPN)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 08, 2020, 07:00:01 PM
DEAL DONE: Everton have signed Abdoulaye Doucouré four around £25m from Watford on a three-year contract, with an option of a fourth. (Source: @Everton)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 08, 2020, 07:00:27 PM
Everton going for it. Fair play. Complete midfield rebuild.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 08, 2020, 07:02:16 PM
DEAL DONE: Newcastle have signed Jamal Lewis from Norwich for a reported £15m on a five-year contract. (Source: @NUFC)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: wba1993dave on September 08, 2020, 07:12:26 PM
Everton always spend big but never seem to do anything in the league.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 08, 2020, 07:30:31 PM
DEAL DONE: Manchester City full-back Angelino will spend the 2020/21 season on loan at RB Leipzig. (Source: @RBLeipzig_EN)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: zippyandbungle on September 08, 2020, 07:54:20 PM
Rumours are they are in a bit of a panic as missed out on all first choice targets so far apart from Watkins who has yet to decide.

Think they are focusing on the UK market after last year's disastrous foray into the Euro market.
but if we do that we are short sighted and not showing ambition.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 08, 2020, 11:46:59 PM
There is no way Villa should have paid £28m for Watkins let alone anything north of £30m if the add-ons come into play in the final analysis Watkins does not any experience at a higher level than the Championship. Anything more than Brighton paid for Maupay last summer is just a nonsense.

Bayer have just completed the transfer of Patrik Schick from Roma for £22m by way of random comparison.

Listened to George Caulkin from the Athletic going into raptures over Newcastle's sudden burst of activity you would have thought they'd signed Messi and they could but they would still be playing the slightly dull somewhat slow, marginally better than Pulisball Bruceyball and bolting Callum Wilson onto the front of that is putting lipstick on the pig. Apparently Wilson will be wearing the hugely iconic number 9 shirt I guess George knows his audience but speaking as a neutral what a load of old tosh.

Both Wilson and Fraser are kind of okay but oddly enough the most interesting is the one that seems to have generated the least attention that is Jamal Lewis for £14m ( the same player that Liverpool declined to pay £20m for earlier in the window) from Norwich. 

Everton are a bit like the bad poker player they keep losing and after a while you feel bad for them but not bad enough to stop taking their money. The thinking this window is a bit more joined up than before. How can we ever forget when they splurged a bunch of money on 4 number 10's in the same window? 

I like all of the players they have signed but I think they are kidding themselves if they think they have signed peak Allan or Rodriguez but even at 29 both are good enough to grace the top half of the Premier League certainly for the next couple years. Less keen on Doucoure but he at least brings a different skill set to the other 2. It goes without saying they have spent a lot of money on this and they probably need to unload a few of last years mistakes.



Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BalisPen on September 09, 2020, 02:58:21 AM
Forgot to mention before, that Imo Doherty to spurs for, reported £12m was cheap.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: DaveWBA on September 09, 2020, 08:50:05 AM
Forgot to mention before, that Imo Doherty to spurs for, reported £12m was cheap.

One of the best wing backs in the league for me. Scores, creates and played his part in a more than decent defence at the Wolves.

Will be interesting to see how he gets on in a slightly different system given how well drilled Nuno had that team.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 09, 2020, 09:14:35 AM
Ollie Watkins will undergo a medical with Aston Villa today having travelled up to Birmingham last night ahead of becoming Villa’s club-record signing for an initial £28m. (Source: Sky Sports)

Leeds United are trying to persuade Paris St-Germain and Germany winger Julian Draxler to join the club. (Source: RMC Sport)

Barcelona have made a €8m bid to sign Manchester City defender Eric Garcia.

City value the 19-year-old centre-back at €40m but would be willing to lower their asking price significanty, with the player's contract set to expire next summer. (Source: SPORT)

Manchester United's hopes of signing Sergio Reguilon are being held up by Real Madrid's insistence on a buy-back clause. (Source: Daily Mirror)

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Groovephil on September 09, 2020, 12:13:38 PM
It would seem Villa have learnt nothing after last year. They'll have blown over £200m in 3 windows.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 09, 2020, 12:35:14 PM
Memphis Depay has now agreed personal terms ahead of a potential move to Barcelona. However, Lyon and Barca are yet to agree on a fee for the forward.
(Source: @FabrizioRomano)

Barcelona officials have met with Arsenal to discuss terms over the transfer of Héctor Bellerín, but the Gunners will only listen to offers within the region of €25m for the Spain international. (Source: SPORT)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Webby on September 09, 2020, 01:49:53 PM
Leeds United are trying to persuade Paris St-Germain and Germany winger Julian Draxler to join the club. (Source: RMC Sport)

Blimey haven't seen this guy for a while but he was and used to be touted as one of the very good ones!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 09, 2020, 02:09:00 PM
OFFICIAL: Cardiff City has, with immediate effect, terminated the contract of Nathaniel Mendez-Laing. (Source: @CardiffCityFC)

Wonder whats gone on there then?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: tommcneill on September 09, 2020, 02:21:32 PM
OFFICIAL: Cardiff City has, with immediate effect, terminated the contract of Nathaniel Mendez-Laing. (Source: @CardiffCityFC)

Wonder whats gone on there then?

Not sure how true this?? It was on Wiki though so absolute rubbish no doubt...checked Cardiff forums and they dont have a clue either!! He has deleted all social media accounts aswell....something will come out later, must be serious though


 His contract was terminated on 9 September 2020 due to an alleged 'breach of contract. Mendez Laing had his contract cancelled as he was found out to be part of an underground fight club in the Cardiff Area
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 09, 2020, 02:49:16 PM
Cardiff City, club statement

Spoiler, these isn't a lot to it!

https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/club-statement-nathaniel-mendez-laing
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on September 09, 2020, 03:45:32 PM
It would seem Villa have learnt nothing after last year. They'll have blown over £200m in 3 windows.
Wish I could say we'll be signing a striker of similar quality.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on September 09, 2020, 04:03:26 PM
Everton seem overloaded in Midfield now, I wonder if Gylfi Sigurddson &/or Fabian Delph are on their way out?  I was shocked that Delph is only 30, i would have guessed 67
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 09, 2020, 07:50:18 PM
Real Madrid will subsidise half of Gareth Bale's £600,000-a-week salary to grant him his wish of returning to the Premier League this summer. (Source: Telegraph)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 09, 2020, 07:53:06 PM
DEAL DONE: Fulham have signed Alphonse Areola on a season-long loan from PSG, with an option to buy. (Source: @FulhamFC)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BB74 on September 09, 2020, 08:02:28 PM
Everton seem overloaded in Midfield now, I wonder if Gylfi Sigurddson &/or Fabian Delph are on their way out?  I was shocked that Delph is only 30, i would have guessed 67

Delph nailed on for Leeds.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 09, 2020, 08:27:10 PM
I'd consider Delph as a cheaper option at defensive mid. There will be better out there but if we are just looking in the British market, he might be a good loan option.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on September 09, 2020, 08:37:32 PM
Everton seem overloaded in Midfield now, I wonder if Gylfi Sigurddson &/or Fabian Delph are on their way out?  I was shocked that Delph is only 30, i would have guessed 67
I've always rated Sigurdsson, definitely a goalscoring midfielder and one of the best free kick specialists in the country.  I think we tried to sign him before. I think it would have to be on loan, as Everton, typically, will want top dollar in a sale.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: smethwickw on September 09, 2020, 08:53:05 PM
DEAL DONE: Fulham have signed Alphonse Areola on a season-long loan from PSG, with an option to buy. (Source: @FulhamFC)

Just the kind of keeper we should have been in for. Fulham done some good  business so far.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: WBArgo on September 09, 2020, 09:19:40 PM
DEAL DONE: Fulham have signed Alphonse Areola on a season-long loan from PSG, with an option to buy. (Source: @FulhamFC)

I reckon that signing will go tits up anyway  ;D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on September 09, 2020, 09:29:12 PM
I reckon that signing will go tits up anyway  ;D

I think he’s terrible, I hear at the PSG end of season awards he go the boobie prize
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 09, 2020, 09:30:59 PM
I think he’s terrible, I hear at the PSG end of season awards he go the boobie prize

Keep me abreast with the news mate
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on September 09, 2020, 09:34:57 PM
Keep me abreast with the news mate
every move has its knockers
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 09, 2020, 09:38:30 PM
every move has its knockers

Spat me tea out  ;D

There are some nasty en-tittys out there that's for sure
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: wbako on September 09, 2020, 09:52:35 PM
Villa have overpaid for Watkins, but he is still a dangerous striker, far superior to anyone we have up top.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on September 09, 2020, 10:30:14 PM
Spat me tea out  ;D

There are some nasty en-tittys out there that's for sure

Lovely Jubblies !
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: boinging_along on September 09, 2020, 10:40:09 PM
I reckon that signing will go tits up anyway  ;D

Not sure how he'll cope with the winter weather, it gets a bit nippley.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on September 09, 2020, 11:28:12 PM
we'll be trying to sign that Serge Areola next
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on September 10, 2020, 08:04:27 AM
We have some "budding" comedians on here. Here's to the mammaries.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 10, 2020, 09:30:19 AM
Exclusive: West Ham make improved £30m bid for Burnley's James Tarkowski after seeing £27m bid rejected
@JPercyTelegraph
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 10, 2020, 09:40:32 AM
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang has agreed a new three-year contract that will see him surpass Mesut Özil as Arsenal's highest paid player. (Source:
@David_Ornstein
)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: seteefeet on September 10, 2020, 09:46:45 AM
Exclusive: West Ham make improved £30m bid for Burnley's James Tarkowski after seeing £27m bid rejected
@JPercyTelegraph
Madness.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 10, 2020, 09:51:24 AM
Another player exit at Wigan. Nathan Byrne is having a medical at #dcfc later today. Derby still hopeful of signing Lech Poznań winger Kamil Jóźwiak. #wafc

John Percy
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 10, 2020, 11:24:00 AM
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang has agreed a new three-year contract with FA Cup winners Arsenal. The deal could make him the Gunners’ highest paid player. (Source: @David_Ornstein)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: lewisant on September 10, 2020, 12:00:03 PM
So, from this year's window so far - who are the must haves in Fantasy football teams?

I've made sure Werner and Havertz are in mine.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 10, 2020, 12:07:27 PM
So, from this year's window so far - who are the must haves in Fantasy football teams?

I've made sure Werner and Havertz are in mine.

Same as every year. 3 of Robertson Alexander Arnold Mane and Salah.

I'd be wary of Chelsea and Everton players. Some big turnovers there.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: ronnie_allen on September 10, 2020, 12:40:42 PM
So, from this year's window so far - who are the must haves in Fantasy football teams?

I've made sure Werner and Havertz are in mine.

The aforementioned Aubameyang is moved to midfield for whatever reason this year. I always assumed they would move Salah and Mané upfront eventually but seem to be doing the reverse of that. This could add about 30-40 points to his overall seasonal points haul as a result. Seem to be as many or more Golden boot contenders across midfield so would lean there rather than Aguero/Kane/Vardy for big value transactions.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 10, 2020, 02:04:45 PM
Michy Batshuayi has completed his medical at Crystal Palace ahead of a season long loan. The striker is also set to sign a contract extension at Chelsea before being loaned out. (Source: Sky Sports)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on September 10, 2020, 02:37:30 PM
Michy Batshuayi has completed his medical at Crystal Palace ahead of a season long loan. The striker is also set to sign a contract extension at Chelsea before being loaned out. (Source: Sky Sports)
I think Palace will have one of the best strikeforces in the league if they can hold onto Zaha. With Eze as well.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 10, 2020, 03:29:27 PM
PSG are set to sign Alessandro Florenzi from Roma. The Champions League runners up will bring the full-back in on a season-long loan with the option to buy him next season.

(Source: Calciomercato)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 10, 2020, 03:58:45 PM
Real Madrid are eyeing Riyad Mahrez as a possible replacement for Gareth Bale, should the Welshman leave this transfer window.

The Liga champions have already made contact with Mahrez's entourage about the move.

(Source: Foot Mercato)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 10, 2020, 04:04:29 PM
 DEAL DONE: Fiorentina have signed Giacomo Bonaventura as a free agent after the player spent the last six years with AC Milan. (Source: @acffiorentina)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 10, 2020, 05:25:48 PM
DEAL DONE: Crystal Palace have signed Michy Batshuayi on a season-long loan. (Source: @CPFC)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: beechyboy90 on September 10, 2020, 05:26:33 PM
Crystal palace have confirmed batman on loan
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 10, 2020, 05:54:59 PM
 DEAL DONE: Middlesbrough have completed the signing of goalkeeper Marcus Bettinelli on a season-long loan from Fulham. (Source: @Boro)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 10, 2020, 06:26:11 PM
Gonzalo Higuaín has reached an agreement with Juventus to terminate his contract a year early. He is advanced talks with David Beckham's Inter Miami and should join in the coming days. (Source: @FabrizioRomano)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 10, 2020, 10:31:06 PM
Fulham have joined Aston Villa in the race to sign Bournemouth striker Josh King. #FFC #avfc #afcb

SSN
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 11, 2020, 09:23:57 AM
West Ham are in discussions with midfielder Jack Wilshere to cancel his contract by mutual consent. (Source: Daily Mail)

Olivier Giroud has agreed personal terms on a two-year contract with Juventus that will see him earn €9m. Chelsea want a €5m fee for the striker.
(Source: @DiMarzio)

Wesley Fofana has confirmed he wants to leave Saint-Étienne and join Leicester after the Foxes initial €29m bid was rejected. (Source: L'Equipe)

DEAL DONE: Fulham have completed the signing of right-back Kenny Tete from Lyon for £3m on a four-year deal. (Source: @FulhamFC)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 11, 2020, 11:54:58 AM
DEAL DONE: Birmingham have signed Neil Etheridge on a four-year contract from Cardiff. Undisclosed fee. (Source: @BCFC)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: smethwickw on September 11, 2020, 12:00:22 PM
DEAL DONE: Birmingham have signed Neil Etheridge on a four-year contract from Cardiff. Undisclosed fee. (Source: @BCFC)

Arguably better than any of our current keepers.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 11, 2020, 12:14:09 PM
DEALS DONE: Isaac Hayden and Karl Darlow have signed new contracts at Newcastle United. (Source: @NUFC)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 11, 2020, 01:13:21 PM
Arguably better than any of our current keepers.

IMO he is better. A steady gk.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 11, 2020, 05:25:56 PM
At the start of the window, the 2 loans I wanted in an ideal world were Ethan Ampadu and Rhian Brewster. It looks like Sheff Utd have been able to sign both within a week or so of each other. Contender for the best value window this summer.

Fulham signing Tete for £3m is great value again. £5m for two highly rated full backs, with another coming on loan.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: costa blanca baggie on September 11, 2020, 08:51:39 PM
At the start of the window, the 2 loans I wanted in an ideal world were Ethan Ampadu and Rhian Brewster. It looks like Sheff Utd have been able to sign both within a week or so of each other. Contender for the best value window this summer.

Fulham signing Tete for £3m is great value again. £5m for two highly rated full backs, with another coming on loan.
With all due respect, we won’t know till the end of the season if the signings were ideal for the respective clubs.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on September 11, 2020, 09:01:47 PM
With all due respect, we won’t know till the end of the season if the signings were ideal for the respective clubs.

Whilst I accept that’s true. It’s also nonsense to imply nothing can be assessed upfront.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: costa blanca baggie on September 11, 2020, 09:13:07 PM
Whilst I accept that’s true. It’s also nonsense to imply nothing can be assessed upfront.
In short...It’s all nonsense. 🤪
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 11, 2020, 09:56:25 PM
With all due respect, we won’t know till the end of the season if the signings were ideal for the respective clubs.

I can't say if they will be ideal for Sheff Utd, but my statement was "the loans I wanted in an ideal world" - it isn't saying they would work, it's just the 2 loan signings I liked the look off the most before they moved.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 12, 2020, 12:00:56 PM
Chelsea are considering loaning out England winger Callum Hudson-Odoi, 19
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 12, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Chelsea are considering loaning out England winger Callum Hudson-Odoi, 19

If a bottom half prem side gets him on loan, that's pretty depressing. Hope he ends up at Leipzig really, he has the ability to be the main man for most English sides outside the top 7.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: lewisant on September 12, 2020, 05:10:49 PM
Chelsea are considering loaning out England winger Callum Hudson-Odoi, 19

I'm going to make a prediction - suddenly WBA are interested in Hudson-Odoi so we stall on Gallagher then we don't get Hudson-Odoi (because realistically  - do we stand a chance?!) and in this time we stall we miss out on Gallgher.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 12, 2020, 05:12:34 PM
I'm going to make a prediction - suddenly WBA are interested in Hudson-Odoi so we stall on Gallagher then we don't get Hudson-Odoi (because realistically  - do we stand a chance?!) and in this time we stall we miss out on Gallgher.

Doubt it mate. Not a position we need to fill.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 12, 2020, 07:37:13 PM
Arsenal have had a £15m bid knocked back for Celtic striker Odsonne Edouard. (Source: Daily Express)

How does that fee compare to £17m for Grant?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 12, 2020, 07:43:58 PM
Arsenal have had a £15m bid knocked back for Celtic striker Odsonne Edouard. (Source: Daily Express)

How does that fee compare to £17m for Grant?

They want double.

Edouard clearly the better player but we're not pay 30 million bills for anyone.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 12, 2020, 08:11:48 PM
They want double.

Edouard clearly the better player but we're not pay 30 million bills for anyone.

I was thinking more value for our £
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 12, 2020, 08:20:48 PM
I was thinking more value for our £

Well Edouard isn't twice as good as Grant, so we'll get the better deal imo.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 12, 2020, 08:29:01 PM
Well Edouard isn't twice as good as Grant, so we'll get the better deal imo.

That’s what I was hoping for  ;)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 12, 2020, 08:29:23 PM
Villa. Traore. Offer to Lyon up to 20m all in. French club likely to accept. Wages not an issue. Talk of medical in France start of week. Fulham has been looking.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: royhan on September 12, 2020, 09:02:48 PM
Villa have had a £16m offer, rising to £20m for Arsenal reserve keeper Emiliano Martinez. I wish we had their open cheque book.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 12, 2020, 09:21:28 PM
DEAL DONEL AC Milan have signed striker Ante Rebic permanently from Eintracht Frankfurt for free on a five-year contract. (Source: @ACMilan)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Nocky on September 12, 2020, 09:47:50 PM
Villa have had a £16m offer, rising to £20m for Arsenal reserve keeper Emiliano Martinez. I wish we had their open cheque book.

Where is all the money coming from??
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 13, 2020, 12:04:31 AM
Reports coming out that Benrahma is joining Eze and Zaha at Palace. Not sure how he will get on with Hodgson who likes his midfielders to work hard in defence, but in attack you have to think Palace should have enough creativity in their team now with 3 of the most exciting wide men in the country.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 13, 2020, 12:07:57 AM
Reports coming out that Benrahma is joining Eze and Zaha at Palace. Not sure how he will get on with Hodgson who likes his midfielders to work hard in defence, but in attack you have to think Palace should have enough creativity in their team now with 3 of the most exciting wide men in the country.

Despite what they've said publicly, if this happens, Zaha will be in an Everton shirt before the end of the month.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 13, 2020, 12:18:43 AM
Possible, although his stock isn’t what it was so would be a strange point to sell him. Having 4 wingers of the quality of Benrahma, Zara, Eze and Townsend though does seem odd.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 13, 2020, 06:47:35 AM
Palace have plenty of cash to do the deal at the 20m agreed. They don't need to sell Zaha but probably will for the right money as he's dying to get out.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 13, 2020, 08:24:43 AM
I can see this scenario having bought Zaha for £60m this window in 3 years time Everton spend another £60m on Benrahma. In the interim they don't qualify for Europe they work their way through another 3 managers and in a further two years time a now destitute  Farhad Moshiri is sleeping under a half built stand in the yet to be completed Bramley Dock development.

Here's an idea skip the Zaha bit and just buy Benrahma you'll thank me for this latter.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 13, 2020, 09:33:29 AM
Barcelona manager Ronald Koeman has made Liverpool and Egypt forward Mohamed Salah, 28, his top transfer target. (Sunday Express)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: frazzle on September 13, 2020, 09:40:20 AM
I can see this scenario having bought Zaha for £60m this window in 3 years time Everton spend another £60m on Benrahma. In the interim they don't qualify for Europe they work their way through another 3 managers and in a further two years time a now destitute  Farhad Moshiri is sleeping under a half built stand in the yet to be completed Bramley Dock development.

Here's an idea skip the Zaha bit and just buy Benrahma you'll thank me for this latter.

Exactly what I’d was thinking. Take Benrahma now.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 13, 2020, 09:41:30 AM
West Ham are interested in a move for Brighton's 26-year-old English winger Solly March and have started negotiations. (90min)

I suspect West Ham fans will be delighted with this


Leeds want to buy Chelsea's English midfielder Conor Gallagher, 20. (Mail on Sunday)


Aston Villa have had a 17m euros (£15.7m) bid turned down for Lyon and Burkina Faso forward Bertrand Traore, 25. (Footmercato - in French)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 13, 2020, 04:15:28 PM
DEAL DONE: Wolves manager Nuno Espirito Santo has signed a new three-year deal. (Source: @Wolves)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 13, 2020, 04:16:42 PM
Aston Villa and Lyon reached an agreement over a €20m deal over the transfer of Bertrand Traoré. (Source: Le Faso)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on September 13, 2020, 08:50:57 PM
Aston Villa and Lyon reached an agreement over a €20m deal over the transfer of Bertrand Traoré. (Source: Le Faso)
That's another very good investment by Villa. Another name I suggested. Blimey, this is getting depressing  :'(
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: zippyandbungle on September 13, 2020, 11:45:22 PM
Despite what they've said publicly, if this happens, Zaha will be in an Everton shirt before the end of the month.
You don’t think spurs is more likely?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 14, 2020, 12:08:06 AM
That's another very good investment by Villa. Another name I suggested. Blimey, this is getting depressing  :'(

It’s a lot of money again for a player that’s lost his way in recent years though.

Wesley (circa £22m), Samatta (circa £9m), Watkins (circa (£28m) and now Traore for £19m. In just over a year, that’s an outlay of just under £80m on forwards alone. It feels unsustainable.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on September 14, 2020, 04:34:49 PM
Where is all the money coming from??
is this the Villa with 4 keepers (nyland / heaton / steer / kalinic on the books already ?
Maybe we should get Kalinic in on loan ASAP
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hull Baggie on September 14, 2020, 05:37:23 PM
is this the Villa with 4 keepers (nyland / heaton / steer / kalinic on the books already ?
Maybe we should get Kalinic in on loan ASAP

No keep him there. Never played in Premier league he only played 7 championship games for Villa conceded 12 goals in those games. Spent last season on loan at Toulouse conceded 4 in 4.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on September 14, 2020, 07:44:22 PM
No keep him there. Never played in Premier league he only played 7 championship games for Villa conceded 12 goals in those games. Spent last season on loan at Toulouse conceded 4 in 4.
When Heston is fit (October??) they will have a big job keeping them all happy!!!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 14, 2020, 09:25:28 PM
When Heston is fit (October??) they will have a big job keeping them all happy!!!

Are you sure?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 14, 2020, 09:27:25 PM
Are you sure?

Believe the Addicks are interested...
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 14, 2020, 09:53:10 PM
Burnley want Craig Dawson according to SSN
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 15, 2020, 11:38:18 AM
Gareth Bale has changed his stance on his Real Madrid future and now wants to leave the club. Although the Welshman has been content to be a substitute under Zinedine Zidane, he has now decided he wants to play more often. (Source: Cadena SER)


Bayern Munich have made contact with Chelsea winger Callum Hudson-Odoi over a potential loan deal. Juventus and RB Leipzig are also interested. (Source: Sky Sport)


Atletico Madrid will pay £25m to sign Yannick Carrasco on a permanent deal. (Source: GOAL)


West Ham are ready to offer Arsenal a £5m loan fee to seal a deal for centre-back Rob Holding. (Source: Sun Sport)


If Manchester City or PSG do not complete a deal for Kalidou Koulibaly by the weekend, Napoli are expected to take the 29-year-old off the market. (Source: Football Italia)



Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 15, 2020, 11:41:44 AM
Watford are selling left back Pervis Estupian to Villarreal for £14m. He hasn’t played a competitive game for Watford.

It’s increasingly difficult for clubs like ours to compete in the premier league as more and more of the mid level clubs seem to have some form of “side hustle” going on where they bring in young players, often with the sole objective of trading them a few years later. Wolves, Leeds and to a lesser extent Brighton all now signing lots of youngsters for low fees, knowing the market will return them a profit.

Something we probably need to consider as part of a long term strategy. Even clubs like Sheff Utd seem to have a network of clubs in Europe who they loan players to on a partnership basis.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 15, 2020, 11:45:58 AM
Sheffield United and Crystal Palace have both held talks with Liverpool over a deal for Rhian Brewster – but Liverpool have yet to decide whether the 20-year old will be allowed to leave in this window. (Source: Sky Sports)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 15, 2020, 11:52:45 AM
Watford are selling left back Pervis Estupian to Villarreal for £14m. He hasn’t played a competitive game for Watford.

It’s increasingly difficult for clubs like ours to compete in the premier league as more and more of the mid level clubs seem to have some form of “side hustle” going on where they bring in young players, often with the sole objective of trading them a few years later. Wolves, Leeds and to a lesser extent Brighton all now signing lots of youngsters for low fees, knowing the market will return them a profit.

Something we probably need to consider as part of a long term strategy. Even clubs like Sheff Utd seem to have a network of clubs in Europe who they loan players to on a partnership basis.

I seem to recall a few years ago, we had an accord with, I think, a Scandinavian club on a bases similar to what you suggest, but can't remember what happened.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 15, 2020, 05:34:11 PM
Gylfi Sigurdsson and Theo Walcott among the high earners Everton would like to offload this transfer window @_ChrisBascombe
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 15, 2020, 05:39:38 PM
DEAL DONE: Charlie Adam has signed for Dundee on a two-year contract. (Source: @DundeeFC)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: wba1993dave on September 15, 2020, 05:40:46 PM
Gylfi Sigurdsson and Theo Walcott among the high earners Everton would like to offload this transfer window @_ChrisBascombe

Hopefully we keep well away. Both are past it and on huge sums of money.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 15, 2020, 05:44:49 PM
 DEAL DONE: Lazio have completed the signing of Vedat Muriqi from Fenerbahçe. Fee around €20m. Five-year contract. (Source: @OfficialSSLazio)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 15, 2020, 06:55:38 PM
Luis Suárez is now NOT expected to sign with Juventus.

His Italian passport will be issued to him too late for him to sign before the end of the transfer window. (Source: RAC1)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: PartisanBaggie on September 15, 2020, 07:03:45 PM
Luis Suárez is now NOT expected to sign with Juventus.

His Italian passport will be issued to him too late for him to sign before the end of the transfer window. (Source: RAC1)

That’ll give him something to sink his teeth into...😲
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 15, 2020, 07:17:08 PM
Tottenham are also working on a deal to sign Gareth Bale from Real Madrid. The 31-year old is keen to rejoin his former club. (Source: @David_Ornstein)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on September 16, 2020, 07:47:21 AM
Believe the Addicks are interested...

I hur ed that one on the grapevine too.....
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 16, 2020, 10:22:14 AM
22 year old Poland international winger Kamil Jozwiak finally signs for Derby. From everything i've read, he could be an interesting addition who, if given time, will be an exciting player for Derby.

He is the second young Polish winger to come to the championship after Przemyslaw Placheta signed for Norwich a few months ago.

It's arguably a step up from Polish football to the championship, as Joel Valencia found last season, but Poland have been producing a lot of decent young players in the last decade. Could be one to watch.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 16, 2020, 03:37:58 PM
DEAL DONE: Leeds United have singed Crysencio Summerville from Feyenoord for an undisclosed fee until 2023. (Source: @LUFC)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on September 16, 2020, 04:49:02 PM
Are you sure?

Blumen thal, i got that wrong didn't I ?  Heaton !!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on September 16, 2020, 10:33:26 PM
DEAL DONE: Leeds United have singed Crysencio Summerville from Feyenoord for an undisclosed fee until 2023. (Source: @LUFC)
Skilful, but bloke is too physically small and frail to do much damage. One of Alan Pardew's ADO Den Haag players, who wasn't able to produce the goods for Alan!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 16, 2020, 10:43:54 PM
Villa in for Rico Henry - The Sun, in tommorows paper
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 16, 2020, 11:33:53 PM
Villa in for Rico Henry - The Sun, in tommorows paper

Would cost them the same as Matty Cash you would imagine, if not more. With bids in for other players too, surely they hsve to fall foul of ffp at some point?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 16, 2020, 11:48:32 PM
I'm not sure. It seems in the PL as long as the owners are willing to put their own money in without it being a loan it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 17, 2020, 12:27:16 AM
Would cost them the same as Matty Cash you would imagine, if not more. With bids in for other players too, surely they hsve to fall foul of ffp at some point?

In the short term no across a rolling 3 year period  they can lose £105m but certain expenditure is excluded e.g. the cost of the academy so actual trading losses are probably closer to £150m It is also likely that the Premier League will give clubs some relief because of covid-19. While not suspending the rules the reporting period is likely to be adjusted so that the current circumstances are less impactful.

 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 18, 2020, 12:34:12 PM
 DEAL DONE: Manchester United have sent James Garner on a season-long loan to Watford. (Source: @WatfordFC)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 18, 2020, 03:44:22 PM
Liverpool are interested in Wolves forward Diogo Jota. (Source: The Times)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on September 18, 2020, 03:51:50 PM
Liverpool are interested in Wolves forward Diogo Jota. (Source: The Times)
so thats why Nuno said he "is not available for selection"  Mendez effect starting ??
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 18, 2020, 04:00:01 PM
DEAL DONE: Liverpool have signed Thiago Alcântara from Bayern Munich for an initial £20m which could rise to £25m. He’s penned a 4-year contract and will wear the number 6 shirt. (Source: @LFC)

That's a fantastic signing for that fee
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 18, 2020, 07:05:27 PM
BREAKING: In the last few hours, Liverpool have contacted Barcelona to enquire about the signing of Ousmane Dembélé. They're prepared to take him on loan and are willing to pay a compensation amount. Barça are yet to respond. (Source: SPORT)

I though Klopp said he wouldn’t, significantly, be involved in this transfer window?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 18, 2020, 07:26:46 PM
Gareth Bale to cost Tottenham bargain £9m on season-long loan deal | @Matt_Law_DT leads the reporting team

I could never see Daniel paying £20m loan fee, plus picking up 50% of his wages, combined yes
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 19, 2020, 01:26:57 AM
Interesting few days in the market.

Bale to Spurs loan with a £9m loan fee and 50% of his wages. Some outlets describing it as a bargain. Yes would be if you had the Bale that left Spurs 7 years ago but you absolutely don't have that. Question is how good is this version and how does Mourinho integrate him into the Spurs team? Definitely one on the big pile of let's wait and see how things turn out transfers.

More enthused about the Thiago deal with the midfielder joining Liverpool for £25m (including add-ons) on 4 year deal. At 29 still got enough decent years to just about justify the 4 year deal.

Jota also interesting in part because Liverpool are only paying Wolves £4m in the first year and as with all Wolves deals pay close attention to the agents fees because that is how Fosun are weeding money off the table via their partner Mendes. The Silva deal was £27m plus £9m in agents fees £6m of which went Mendes who is not the players agent but he is Jota's so I am guessing another £10m in the Mendes coffers. 

Craig Dawson linked with Fulham might be going for the relegation hat trick.

Green eyed monster corner Freiburg have just signed Baptiste Santamaria from Angers for £9m one of the best Defensive Mids from Ligue 1 for less than we might end up paying for Krovinovic. Surprised he has gone to Freiburg as I thought a team a little bit further up the food chain would be in for him.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: lewisant on September 19, 2020, 09:21:39 AM
Villa have confirmed Traore
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 19, 2020, 10:38:09 AM
Liverpool are interested in Wolves forward Diogo Jota. (Source: The Times)

Diogo Jota: Liverpool agree £45m deal with Wolves for forward

John Percy
On Diogo Jota’s £45m move to #lfc: #Wolves view the deal as a calculated decision, as Nuno moves to modify the style of play for 3rd season in the PL. Emergence of Pedro Neto and Daniel Podence also key, so Jota will not necessarily be replaced. Fee represents good business #wwfc

TWO DONE DEALS.....
* #LFC sign Diogo Jota for £45m on a five-year contract. Initial fee of £41m rising to £45m.
* Ki-Jana Hoever going in the opposite direction in a £13.5m deal. £9m guaranteed/£4.5m in add-ons. #LFC have negotiated 15% sell-on clause
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: PartisanBaggie on September 19, 2020, 10:49:23 AM

Jota also interesting in part because Liverpool are only paying Wolves £4m in the first year and as with all Wolves deals pay close attention to the agents fees because that is how Fosun are weeding money off the table via their partner Mendes. The Silva deal was £27m plus £9m in agents fees £6m of which went Mendes who is not the players agent but he is Jota's so I am guessing another £10m in the Mendes coffers. 



A football club being run by a football agent.

It utterly disgusts me how low the Dingles have sunk and how compliant their ‘fans’ have been in sacrificing the very identify of their club.

Makes me sick. 🤢🤮
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 19, 2020, 10:51:26 AM
It was either take the money or yo yo between Championship and League 1 and remain irrelevant. I don't blame them.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 19, 2020, 12:05:17 PM
It was either take the money or yo yo between Championship and League 1 and remain irrelevant. I don't blame them.

No it absolutely wasn't the only choice available but to frame it as a choice the fans actively make is just a nonsense.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 19, 2020, 12:14:54 PM
The fans don't actively or passively have any say. That's nonsense however put yourself in their shoes. Would you rather rummage around League 1 or have a go.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 19, 2020, 10:36:56 PM
Leeds in for Daniel James from Man Utd for 12m
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: lewisant on September 20, 2020, 08:40:46 AM
Leeds in for Daniel James from Man Utd for 12m

Started for Man U yesterday and allegedly cost them 15 mill plus add ons so I can't see it myself!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 20, 2020, 01:41:08 PM
They need the money for Sancho deal apparently.

Wolves signing Semedo from Barcelona.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: FallOutBoy on September 20, 2020, 06:11:50 PM
A football club being run by a football agent.

It utterly disgusts me how low the Dingles have sunk and how compliant their ‘fans’ have been in sacrificing the very identify of their club.

Makes me sick. 🤢🤮

Mendes moves decent players there. His players get a shop window, while Wolves improve their team. When the player is at (or near) the top market value they think they'll get for him, they sell him. Yes, the agent gets a big payday, but so does the club. This means they are able to buy better players and improve the first team.

Case in point; they signed Mendes client Diogo Jota (initial season-long loan, permanent for approximately £12m). He was a reserve at Atletico Madrid, without a senior appearance to his name. After three years with the Dingles, he joins Liverpool for over £40m, ensuring a return of over 3 times the initial investment.

They have now used that money to buy a Liverpool reserve who could turn out to be a very good player, and a first-teamer from Barcelona who will improve the quality of the squad straight away.

It might benefit the agent, but it also benefits the club. And by the way, while they use Mendes on the vast majority of their transfers, not all of their players are his clients; he represents the club in deals which bring other players in. They scout better than a lot of teams too.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 20, 2020, 07:15:21 PM
Tottenham want to sign Jesse Lingard in a £30m deal and rescue him from his Manchester United nightmare. (Source: Daily Star Sunday)

Is he that much different a type of player than Dele Alli, if not, what’s the point?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 20, 2020, 07:25:59 PM
They are selling Dele Alli to PSG I believe so he would replace him
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 20, 2020, 07:51:12 PM
They are selling Dele Alli to PSG I believe so he would replace him

So José thinks Lingard is better than Alli?

Both overrated imo, so why get ride of one to replace with another, older, non footballing entity?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 20, 2020, 09:23:04 PM
So José thinks Lingard is better than Alli?

Both overrated imo, so why get ride of one to replace with another, older, non footballing entity?

Not sure was in the Telegraph today. He's out of favour at Spurs and they think nows a good time to sell him on for a hefty profit.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 20, 2020, 09:29:06 PM
Not sure was in the Telegraph today. He's out of favour at Spurs and they think nows a good time to sell him on for a hefty profit.

And Man United are going to accept a fee substantially less than Spurs would get for Alli?

Personally, I think Alli is the better player, but both are overrated imo
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 20, 2020, 09:31:57 PM
And Man United are going to accept a fee substantially less than Spurs would get for Alli?

Personally, I think Alli is the better player, but both are overrated imo

I'd guess Lingards stock is far lower than Alli's.

Jose simply doesn't fancy him.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 21, 2020, 12:21:09 PM
#cpfc have lodged formal bid of £19m + £6m for #lfc striker Rhian Brewster. If agreed, contract would include a buy-back option in Liverpool’s favour of £37m.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 21, 2020, 12:24:00 PM
#cpfc have lodged formal bid of £19m + £6m for #lfc striker Rhian Brewster. If agreed, contract would include a buy-back option in Liverpool’s favour of £37m.

This will almost certainly happen as Liverpool recoup the Jota money.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: tuamigos on September 21, 2020, 12:37:02 PM
#cpfc have lodged formal bid of £19m + £6m for #lfc striker Rhian Brewster. If agreed, contract would include a buy-back option in Liverpool’s favour of £37m.

Even though we're supposed to be in the same league, we're out of our league.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 21, 2020, 01:18:16 PM
This will almost certainly happen as Liverpool recoup the Jota money.

Yep yep makes sense for all.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: FallOutBoy on September 21, 2020, 03:37:43 PM
Even though we're supposed to be in the same league, we're out of our league.

Palace have been in the Premier League for 7 years on the bounce, and have money still from selling Wan-Bissaka.

When we'd been in the Premier League for 8 years, we spent £15m on Oliver Burke, and paid Krychowiak and Sturridge over £100k per week.

It's not like we were brasic, we simply didn't scout as well, or use the budget effectively.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on September 21, 2020, 03:48:53 PM
Palace have been in the Premier League for 7 years on the bounce, and have money still from selling Wan-Bissaka.

When we'd been in the Premier League for 8 years, we spent £15m on Oliver Burke, and paid Krychowiak and Sturridge over £100k per week.

It's not like we were brasic, we simply didn't scout as well, or use the budget effectively.

cough! Benteke cough !  all clubs have their issues
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 21, 2020, 05:23:09 PM
#cpfc have lodged formal bid of £19m + £6m for #lfc striker Rhian Brewster. If agreed, contract would include a buy-back option in Liverpool’s favour of £37m.

Steve Parish has asked Sky Sports News to take down reference to Place making any formal or informal bids for Brewster as they have no substance

Steve Parish Twitter Account

We have asked Sky to take this down as it is a total fabrication from start to finish.

We have not made a bid formal or informal. https://twitter.com/skysportspl/status/1308010322054328323
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 21, 2020, 05:40:24 PM
Leeds United are planning a second bid of £12m for Manchester United winger Daniel James. (Source: Daily Mail)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 22, 2020, 06:27:00 AM
Steve Parish has asked Sky Sports News to take down reference to Place making any formal or informal bids for Brewster as they have no substance

Steve Parish Twitter Account

We have asked Sky to take this down as it is a total fabrication from start to finish.

We have not made a bid formal or informal. https://twitter.com/skysportspl/status/1308010322054328323

I wish clubs would do this more often just so the total BS merchants (pretty much every tabloid and their broadcast equivalent Sky News and Talksport) would be exposed as not much better than the ITK twitter account of some attention seeking teenager with too much time on their hands.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 22, 2020, 09:02:59 AM
Parish was very funny yesterday. I loved the transparency from him personally.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on September 22, 2020, 09:08:38 AM
It'd be even funnier if Palace were  to sign Brewster on the reported deal afterall, that would be top s housing.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 22, 2020, 10:44:55 AM
Leeds are signing another Spanish international, this time defender Diego Llorente, who will partner with their german international.

Clubs with managers like Bielsa and a ton of internationals from the very best international sides just don't go down.

It will be hard to pick which team will occupy the 18th spot this season - could be a shock like Sheff Utd or Newcastle Utd .
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on September 22, 2020, 12:05:33 PM
Leeds are signing another Spanish international, this time defender Diego Llorente, who will partner with their german international.

Clubs with managers like Bielsa and a ton of internationals from the very best international sides just don't go down.

It will be hard to pick which team will occupy the 18th spot this season - could be a shock like Sheff Utd or Newcastle Utd or Vile

modified for you ! you are welcome !
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: zippyandbungle on September 22, 2020, 05:42:12 PM
Leeds are signing another Spanish international, this time defender Diego Llorente, who will partner with their german international.

Clubs with managers like Bielsa and a ton of internationals from the very best international sides just don't go down.

It will be hard to pick which team will occupy the 18th spot this season - could be a shock like Sheff Utd or Newcastle Utd .
I’m assuming Boris stated a block on FFP whilst COVID is around?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: beechyboy90 on September 22, 2020, 05:52:12 PM
Leeds are signing another Spanish international, this time defender Diego Llorente, who will partner with their german international.

Clubs with managers like Bielsa and a ton of internationals from the very best international sides just don't go down.

It will be hard to pick which team will occupy the 18th spot this season - could be a shock like Sheff Utd or Newcastle Utd .

Leeds still conceding goals.for fun despite their spending. They will be in and around.
Brighton newcastle west ham are all pretty poor. Sheffield United dont have any goals in them. Villa are awful they struggled v 10 men for 80 minutes the other day. Fulham and us are the ones really in a mess.

As is I would say us Fulham and villa are going.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: FallOutBoy on September 22, 2020, 10:59:57 PM
cough! Benteke cough !  all clubs have their issues

It was a comment on how they would have the money to finance a move like that, and how, just a few years ago, we might have.

I wasn't comparing anybodies successes or failures.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on September 23, 2020, 04:57:50 PM
It was a comment on how they would have the money to finance a move like that, and how, just a few years ago, we might have.

I wasn't comparing anybodies successes or failures.

i read it as you were holding palarse up as a shining example, just re-read and see that I mis-interpreted it, apologies.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 23, 2020, 09:18:57 PM
modified for you ! you are welcome !

Villa wouldn't be a massive shock though, even though I think they will end up being comfortable.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 23, 2020, 10:55:04 PM
#avfc consider loan move for Chelsea's Ross Barkley as Dean Smith targets a “No 8”. Ruben Loftus-Cheek a possible alternative option #cfc

J Percy
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 24, 2020, 09:28:00 AM
#avfc consider loan move for Chelsea's Ross Barkley as Dean Smith targets a “No 8”. Ruben Loftus-Cheek a possible alternative option #cfc

J Percy

Either would be very good signings. ********.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 24, 2020, 09:29:31 AM
Alexander Sörloth has completed his move from Crystal Palace to RB Leipzig for a reported £18m. This is the latest step in the 24 year old Norwegian's career which has already included 8 different clubs in 7 different countries. This has to be one of the strangest career paths which has had a number of purple patches which have lead to transfers that have gone rather badly only to be rescued by another purple patch.

Starting with his home town club of Rosenberg, he was loaned out to naughty word Bodo and scored a hatful of goals in the Norwegian league returning to Rosenberg where his goal scoring slowed down as did his appearances but never the less at the age of 21 he moves to Groningen in the Netherlands for £400k. While getting a decent amount of game time his goal scoring record isn't great and 12 months on Groningen recoup their investment by selling him to FC Midtjylland.

He spends the next 6months tearing up the Danish League and enter the mugs in the game Crystal Palace who spend £8m on him. He flops, well sort of in truth he hardly plays. Then is shipped out to Gent does okay but nothing special only to return to Palace. 

Frantically trying to unload him Palace agree a two year loan with a £6m option to buy with Turkish Club Tranbzonspor pat themselves on the back for having extracted themselves from the situation. However during his first season with Trabzonspor Sorloth scores 33 goals which is two more than Palace manage in their Premier League campaign.

Enter RB Leipzig who pay Palace £18m for him as a replacement for Timo Werner. Not entirely sure what deal has been struck with Trabzonspor but I am sure a good chunk of the fee is heading to Turkey.

Will Sorloth succeed in the Bundesliga? I can't say for certain but Leipzig are pretty canny operators and they don't make many mistakes but I will certainly be watching his progress. 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: MarkW on September 24, 2020, 09:47:42 AM
Also worth saying FC Midtjylland are big into analytics, so it could be he is a very specific kind of striker who needs a system to suit.

I can't say I know anything about him
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on September 24, 2020, 11:48:47 AM
Also worth saying FC Midtjylland are big into analytics, so it could be he is a very specific kind of striker who needs a system to suit.

I can't say I know anything about him

I'm no analyst but its pretty apparent scoring hatfuls at Palace is a remote possibility for anyone
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 24, 2020, 01:28:19 PM
Also worth saying FC Midtjylland are big into analytics, so it could be he is a very specific kind of striker who needs a system to suit.

I can't say I know anything about him

Think Chris Wood and that's about right. Whether he is better technically difficult to say although I am fairly certain Chris would also have a field day in Turkey.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 24, 2020, 02:40:04 PM
DEAL DONE: Real Sociedad have announced the sale of Diego Llorente to Leeds United. Fee around €25m. (Source: @RealSociedadEN)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 24, 2020, 09:22:49 PM
Prepare for Standaman's tearful breakdown.....Southampton have identified Ibrahim Sangare from Toulouse as the replacement for Hojberg.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: baggiebof on September 24, 2020, 10:11:14 PM
Prepare for Standaman's tearful breakdown.....Southampton have identified Ibrahim Sangare from Toulouse as the replacement for Hojberg.

Yes would have been perfect for us had we prioritised that type of central midfielder and were willing to look outside of England for players.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 24, 2020, 10:45:26 PM
Prepare for Standaman's tearful breakdown.....Southampton have identified Ibrahim Sangare from Toulouse as the replacement for Hojberg.

I need support right now this is difficult to bare. The view from Southampton was they didn't need to replace Hojberg but two very modest performances in and they have figured out they do but why does it have to be him!! And for around £7m *dissolves into floods of tears.

Deep breath that's it I'm over it. Now Uros Racic there's a player.... 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: MarkW on September 24, 2020, 11:16:42 PM
Two names, defensive midfielders. Not linked, but I'd hope we look at them:

Ibrahim Sangaré - 22 years old - at Toulouse. Going into his final year of contract so should be cheap-ish. Toulouse also went down to Ligue 2 so again should be cheap. Seems he's a strong tackler which is what we need alongside Sawyers.



I do wish Ralph would find his own transfer targets  :P
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 25, 2020, 08:27:49 AM
I do wish Ralph would find his on transfer targets  :P

Sorry Mark, I knew somebody else had mentioned him as well 😁
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on September 25, 2020, 10:09:56 AM
I need support right now this is difficult to bare. The view from Southampton was they didn't need to replace Hojberg but two very modest performances in and they have figured out they do but why does it have to be him!! And for around £7m *dissolves into floods of tears.

Deep breath that's it I'm over it. Now Uros Racic there's a player....
Another -ic to scratch (thanks Dan), sounds ideal !
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 26, 2020, 09:35:32 AM
Leeds are signing Gyrano Kerk from Utrecht for around £9m. Starting to feel like they are signing players for the sake of it now.

God knows what their outlay is for this summer.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on September 26, 2020, 11:56:54 AM
But I thought they had a coherent plan and recruitment strategy? At least I read they did on a football forum somewhere.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 27, 2020, 08:06:23 AM
They have smeth, up to this point. They have signed a number of "ones for the future" for very low fees and for their first team they have signed high pedigree internationals.

With the likely Augustin outlay in the next 12 months though, surely they have to be careful not to overstretch themselves. They must be very confident of survival.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 27, 2020, 09:52:53 AM
They have smeth, up to this point. They have signed a number of "ones for the future" for very low fees and for their first team they have signed high pedigree internationals.

With the likely Augustin outlay in the next 12 months though, surely they have to be careful not to overstretch themselves. They must be very confident of survival.

They have spent money. Have they spent it wisely? Time will tell. However the Augustin deal does speak to a problem they have and one which I think might haunt them. Bielsa burns players they either fit his system or they are discarded very quickly.

Augustin lasted about a month before being pretty much abandoned. Obviously the Leeds ownership is prepared to bankroll losses but it is not a bottomless pit of money and there comes a point where burning £20m can't be sustained.

It will be interesting to see how many of their signings are still in the team at Christmas.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 27, 2020, 08:51:24 PM
Leeds United are in advanced talks with Bayern Munich to sign Michaël Cuisance for around €20m. (Source: L'Equipe)

When will this obscenity end?  ;)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: baggies_24 on September 27, 2020, 08:56:22 PM
Jesus wept how much are Leeds spending, as a fan they must be concerned a lot of years in the wilderness last time they went belly up financially.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: MarkW on September 28, 2020, 02:03:30 PM
 
Sorry Mark, I knew somebody else had mentioned him as well 😁

He's only gone and moved to PSV!  :'(
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 29, 2020, 07:44:07 PM
Dortmund have rejected a bid worth €100m from Manchester United for Jadon Sancho. Offer was €80m + €20m bonuses. (Source: Sky Germany)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 29, 2020, 08:12:42 PM
BREAKING: Leeds United have reached an agreement with Bayern Munich for Mickaël Cuisance in a deal worth £20m.

The fee represents a profit of £10m for Bayern after his move from last year.

(Source: @David_Ornstein)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 29, 2020, 08:25:19 PM
Leeds want to sign a winger before the transfer window shuts and Daniel James is their number one target. (Source: The Athletic)

They failed to sign him before
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 29, 2020, 09:18:41 PM
DEAL DONE: Manchester City have announced the £64m signing of Rúben Dias from Benfica. He has penned a 6-year contract. (Source: @ManCity)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 29, 2020, 09:21:19 PM
Leeds want to sign a winger before the transfer window shuts and Daniel James is their number one target. (Source: The Athletic)

They failed to sign him before


YEah it's on the Leeds FC documentary on Amazon. Have you seen that bit? Deal was done and player was sat there, passed his medical, terms agreed, had his pohtos taken and then Swansea board had an interna fallout with them and owners and just refused to answer phone to Leeds board.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on September 29, 2020, 09:22:16 PM
Bayern Munich being linked with Mario Mandzukic as back up for Lewandowsky. (German RTL). If there was any serious interest from us, this would seem to underline how unrealistic that was.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 29, 2020, 09:57:35 PM

YEah it's on the Leeds FC documentary on Amazon. Have you seen that bit? Deal was done and player was sat there, passed his medical, terms agreed, had his pohtos taken and then Swansea board had an interna fallout with them and owners and just refused to answer phone to Leeds board.

Yes, I watched earlier today. It was obviously heartbreaking for all concerned. All was going well until the final hour of that window and it just fell apart because of boardroom politics at Swansea.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 30, 2020, 07:01:42 AM
Still reeling from the shock of Sangare going to PSV ahead of Southampton news breaks today that Rennes have signed Alfred Gomis from Dijon to replace Chelsea bound Mendy. In a deal worth up £15.5m but with £9m being actually guaranteed.

Rennes are just very good at this transfer thing and are obviously data driven because nearly always their targets jump off the page when you look at the data. 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 30, 2020, 10:29:34 AM
Still reeling from the shock of Sangare going to PSV ahead of Southampton news breaks today that Rennes have signed Alfred Gomis from Dijon to replace Chelsea bound Mendy. In a deal worth up £15.5m but with £9m being actually guaranteed.

Rennes are just very good at this transfer thing and are obviously data driven because nearly always their targets jump off the page when you look at the data. 

But I thought the market was impossible on a budget?

I guess skilled operators find a way 👾
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 30, 2020, 10:31:36 AM
Ross Barkley signs for Villa, completely out of the blue.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 30, 2020, 10:32:00 AM
Ross Barkley has signed for AVFC on season long loan
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 30, 2020, 10:32:44 AM
Ross Barkley signs for Villa, completely out of the blue.

Was reported a few days ago tbf
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 30, 2020, 02:57:18 PM
Fulham getting Lookman in.

Decent player but not remotely where they need to strengthen.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 30, 2020, 05:20:27 PM
Everton make £26m bid for Norwich central defender Ben Godfrey
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on October 01, 2020, 09:09:27 AM
Today's topic is squad bloat. A rough guess there are about 300 players across the big five leagues that clubs would like to unload and with less than a week to go either the market springs to life (which it always does) or there is going to be an awful lot of disgruntled players and unhappy executives paying for squads that are too big from much reduced revenue.

Half the Premier League squads have 30 or more players in them. 8 Bundesliga squads 15 in Serie A, 5 in Ligue 1 and just 1 in La Liga. That's not to say that a squad with 28 players particularly at a club without European football could not lose a couple of players, but almost nobody needs 30 players.

Yet most fans would add at least a couple of players to those squads.

We are in for an interesting few days. 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on October 01, 2020, 09:35:25 AM
I wonder who will end up picking up the best loan deal of the final week?

There is always a good loan move to be had on the final week, so it would be great if we end up benefiting.

Rhian Brewster, Curtis Jones, Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Tiémoué Bakayoko, Taylor Harwood-Bellis, Tommy Doyle, Ryan Sessegnon and Dele Alli look the best of those potentially available.

I'd love Sessegnon to fill the left back birth - especially if Bilic persists with 5 at the back
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on October 01, 2020, 10:23:30 AM
I wonder who will end up picking up the best loan deal of the final week?

There is always a good loan move to be had on the final week, so it would be great if we end up benefiting.

Rhian Brewster, Curtis Jones, Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Tiémoué Bakayoko, Taylor Harwood-Bellis, Tommy Doyle, Ryan Sessegnon and Dele Alli look the best of those potentially available.

I'd love Sessegnon to fill the left back birth - especially if Bilic persists with 5 at the back

As exciting as some of those young attacking midfielders are, we don't need one. Brewster, Loftus Cheek, Bakayoko and Sessegnon would all solve a problem for us though, and improve us massively but obviously with Gallagher here, Bakayoko and LC arent available to us.

I think Brewster will go on a loan with an option to buy to a better placed club so Sess is the only one I could see potentially happening.




Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on October 01, 2020, 10:25:32 AM
I wonder who will end up picking up the best loan deal of the final week?

There is always a good loan move to be had on the final week, so it would be great if we end up benefiting.

Rhian Brewster, Curtis Jones, Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Tiémoué Bakayoko, Taylor Harwood-Bellis, Tommy Doyle, Ryan Sessegnon and Dele Alli look the best of those potentially available.

I'd love Sessegnon to fill the left back birth - especially if Bilic persists with 5 at the back

Spurs in general are in a interesting spot. They have 30 players but would probably let about 5 or 6 players go and would bring in no more than four in.

Danny Rose is plainly for sale and there is no interest. Wages age etc.. count against him but he's not a bad player.

Dele Alli out of favour and in truth not been great for at least a season now if someone would come in with an offer in the £40m to £50m range I think even Levy would snap their hand off. It is a typical "showing ambition signing" that an Everton or West Ham would have made in the past but unfortunately for Spurs they are either skint or wised up. A loan kind of makes sense but more likely abroad than in England.

Sessegnon is not going to play while Mourinho is there probably needs to nail down his long term position winger/wingback/full back, and loan would help the player. Would massively improve most bottom half Premier Leagues teams.

On paper they have a lot of Centre Backs particularly as Dier is being played there Foyth and Carter Vickers are near certain to leave although both have squad numbers which is more than Danny Rose has.

Serge Aurier is too good to be back up to Mat Doherty who is still not the RB they need but whatever.

The midfield there is lots of it probably could lose a couple but which two I don't know. Why is Gleeson Fernandes there? Makes no sense for player nor club.

Despite having lots of Centre Backs they probably need a really good one and a back up option for Kane and unlike in previous seasons that player will get game time.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on October 01, 2020, 07:56:34 PM
John Percy Twitter Account

“ Everton's second bid of £25m plus add-ons for Norwich defender Ben Godfrey has been accepted tonight. Godfrey set for medical in next 24 hours #efc #ncfc”
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on October 01, 2020, 07:57:11 PM
Michaël Cuisance's move to Leeds United has fallen through. Bayern Munich and Leeds couldn't agree on a buy-back clause. (Source: @FabrizioRomano/@PhilHay_)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on October 01, 2020, 09:02:11 PM
Weird, the Athletic have done a feature saying he failed his medical. Who knows!?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Adamstv on October 02, 2020, 09:19:18 AM
Brewster going to Sheffield Utd - £23.5m for an unproven Premier league player with potential. Hope Huddersfield don’t use that for Grant as a barometer!!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hull Baggie on October 02, 2020, 09:26:37 AM
Brewster going to Sheffield Utd - £23.5m for an unproven Premier league player with potential. Hope Huddersfield don’t use that for Grant as a barometer!!

moving from one Premier league club to another though not from one in the Championship.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on October 02, 2020, 09:29:37 AM
Vladimir Coufal: West Ham sign Slavia Prague right-back for £5.4m
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: WBA.R.K on October 02, 2020, 09:43:15 AM
Brewster going to Sheffield Utd - £23.5m for an unproven Premier league player with potential. Hope Huddersfield don’t use that for Grant as a barometer!!

Makes me think of the Solanke deal to Bournemouth
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on October 02, 2020, 10:26:28 AM
Brewster going to Sheffield Utd - £23.5m for an unproven Premier league player with potential. Hope Huddersfield don’t use that for Grant as a barometer!!

Liverpool seem to be able to dominate the transfer market now. I would never do business with them. They have squeezed £23.5m out of Brewster, plus have a sell on clause AND a buy back clause (probably £34m range).

That's a hugely restrictive deal for Sheff Utd, but Liverpool pride themselves on being able to bully smaller clubs into doing what they want.

I think for Utd it's a good signing. Brewster looks premier league quality, with his strength, speed, shot and movement all being great. I was looking at Sheff Utd as being a potential relegation rival, but this signing might just be the missing goal scoring piece for them.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on October 02, 2020, 10:51:51 AM
The Brewster deal is very bad and I like the player a lot but this can never turn out well for Sheffield United.

 All directors of football should print out a big sign and pin it above their desks with the most important 3 words in football recruitment.  REMEMBER JORDAN IBE.  Now you are ready to talk to Liverpool about one of their  largely unproven young players.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on October 02, 2020, 11:03:54 AM
if the buy back clause on Brewster is true, it is deal weighted very heavily in Liverpool's favour.

However I wouldn't say it cannot work out for Sheffield United. If he helps them stay up for a couple of years and then they make £10-15m then that its hardly bad is it.

The downside isn't that bad either. The kid has just hit 10 goals in the championship in his first 20 senior games, as a 20 year old right now.  If he doesn't make it in the top flight the bottom end of his range is still likely £10-£15m for a good few years yet. 



Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on October 02, 2020, 11:24:22 AM
Southampton have made a bid for Brest midfielder Ibrahima Diallo.

Is he one of those mentioned by Stan or Mark?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on October 02, 2020, 11:30:23 AM
Southampton have made a bid for Brest midfielder Ibrahima Diallo.

Is he one of those mentioned by Stan or Mark?
different one, we’re linked with Habib Diallo of Metz.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on October 02, 2020, 11:40:29 AM
if the buy back clause on Brewster is true, it is deal weighted very heavily in Liverpool's favour.

However I wouldn't say it cannot work out for Sheffield United. If he helps them stay up for a couple of years and then they make £10-15m then that its hardly bad is it.

The downside isn't that bad either. The kid has just hit 10 goals in the championship in his first 20 senior games, as a 20 year old right now.  If he doesn't make it in the top flight the bottom end of his range is still likely £10-£15m for a good few years yet.

Okay the assumptions are piling up here and they may prove to be correct but they may not. With any transfer even ones that look quiet good at the outset a 100% loss is always available, which is why Jordan Ibe is so very relevant here. Against this Sheffield United have capped any profit they make from the deal at around £10.5m.

What makes it worse is that should things not work out and Sheffield United end up selling at a future date for £10m Liverpool have £1.5m of that fee and Sheffield United are nursing a loss of £13m

The other assumption is there is a market outside the English top flight that will pay £10m plus for a player who hasn't confirmed his early promise which cushions the downside, I know that place used to be called the Championship but I suspect that might not be case now or even in the future.

Southampton have made a bid for Brest midfielder Ibrahima Diallo.

Is he one of those mentioned by Stan or Mark?

Diallo seems to be the Senegalese equivalent of "Smith" there are a lot of them scattered around French football.  No "mine" is Habib
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: MarkW on October 02, 2020, 11:45:33 AM
Southampton have made a bid for Brest midfielder Ibrahima Diallo.

Is he one of those mentioned by Stan or Mark?

Don't think he was one I saw, either. Was a guy from an Eastern European league, along with Sangare
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on October 02, 2020, 11:56:47 AM
Okay the assumptions are piling up here and they may prove to be correct but they may not. With any transfer even ones that look quiet good at the outset a 100% loss is always available, which is why Jordan Ibe is so very relevant here. Against this Sheffield United have capped any profit they make from the deal at around £10.5m.

What makes it worse is that should things not work out and Sheffield United end up selling at a future date for £10m Liverpool have £1.5m of that fee and Sheffield United are nursing a loss of £13m

The other assumption is there is a market outside the English top flight that will pay £10m plus for a player who hasn't confirmed his early promise which cushions the downside, I know that place used to be called the Championship but I suspect that might not be case now or even in the future.


True, I did make some assumptions, but only in response to your absolute that it cannot work out for Sheffield United. We are also assuming the numbers are accurate. I suspect the buy back has some terms and restrictions, and I imagine the sell on is only on any profit.

The part missing when talking about capped profit is the value he has while at the club which is harder to quantify but could be huge if he players a big part in the clubs development.

There was discussions about us paying £5m for Grant, in a situation where he goes back to Huddesfield if he goes down and people were ok with that. Well I genuinely feel that you'd get £10m for Brewster in two years time, even if it goes terribly. So consider it £5m a year for a two year loan at which point you might cut your loses or if it goes well you may see a player go back to Liverpool and make some money.

If Watkins is £28m, and Grant is £18m. This isn't a terrible deal for a lad who is streets ahead of where either of those were at 20 and has always been incredibly highly rated.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on October 02, 2020, 12:16:10 PM
General point, Brewster's on a different level to Ibe.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on October 02, 2020, 05:44:25 PM
DEAL DONE: Rhian Brewster has joined Sheffield United from Liverpool on a five-year contract for £23.5m. The Reds have a 15% sell-on clause and a buy-back option. (Source: @SheffieldUnited)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on October 02, 2020, 06:03:45 PM
Not sure whether Blades have been done over or not there. How much is the buy back?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on October 02, 2020, 06:42:54 PM
German media reports suggesting talks between Chelsea and Bayern over the sale of Hudson-Odoi are at an advanced stage.

Great news for the English national team. A player out of favour at Chelsea, going to the best club side in the world in the lead up to a very winnable Euro's and World Cup.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on October 02, 2020, 06:58:12 PM
German media reports suggesting talks between Chelsea and Bayern over the sale of Hudson-Odoi are at an advanced stage.

Great news for the English national team. A player out of favour at Chelsea, going to the best club side in the world in the lead up to a very winnable Euro's and World Cup.

Unless of course he just goes and sits on the bench there too.  Sane and Gnabry are both excellent.

It makes a mockery of Chelsea’s promises to him a year ago to sign a new deal though. Young players are better off away from Chelsea if they’ve not come with a big price tag.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on October 02, 2020, 07:28:34 PM
Bayern traditionally have a better pathway for players than Chelsea do. He will likely get lots of minutes from the bench and is in a more forgiving environment.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on October 02, 2020, 08:24:16 PM
Bayern traditionally have a better pathway for players than Chelsea do. He will likely get lots of minutes from the bench and is in a more forgiving environment.

Bayern’s traditional pathway for players is excelling at another bundesliga club!

Although arriving with a price tag does generally mean players have more opportunity So you are probably right that he’ll get a decent level of minutes.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on October 02, 2020, 11:18:45 PM
Glad to see Burnley have walked away from Liverpool's Harry Wilson valuation (£20m for those asking).

Of course, twitter being twitter, Liverpool fans think i'm mad for not agreeing with Liverpool FC that £20m is a realistic price for a 23 year old wide man who they are actively trying to sell, who can't get into their team and who struggled to hold down a starting birth at a club relegated last season. Got to love Liverpool fandls.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on October 03, 2020, 09:01:24 AM
Glad to see Burnley have walked away from Liverpool's Harry Wilson valuation (£20m for those asking).

Of course, twitter being twitter, Liverpool fans think i'm mad for not agreeing with Liverpool FC that £20m is a realistic price for a 23 year old wide man who they are actively trying to sell, who can't get into their team and who struggled to hold down a starting birth at a club relegated last season. Got to love Liverpool fandls.

This is the big difference this window the best players are holding value maybe not quite what it might have been but deals are being done. However players who are expensive for the level with question marks over their ability or attitude aren't moving at all.

Sorry, Liverpool can't buy Tiago for £20m and sell Harry Wilson in the same window for the same price. While I know they are at different stages of their career  Tiago is a top class midfielder and Wilson is an average top tier professional with a bit of potential.

Too frequently clubs like Burnley have helped out clubs like Liverpool by buying their rejects for too much money, would be delighted if this starts a trend.

 

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: smethwickw on October 03, 2020, 09:53:22 AM
If Diangana is worth £18m then surely Wilson is worth £20m. Wilson has had 2 good seasons in the Champ and 1 in the Prem.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on October 03, 2020, 09:58:39 AM
If Diangana is worth £18m then surely Wilson is worth £20m. Wilson has had 2 good seasons in the Champ and 1 in the Prem.

I don’t think we paid £18m for Diangana. I think the initial reports of £12-13 rising to £18m are more likely true.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on October 03, 2020, 10:42:55 AM
Diangana is £12m rising to £18m if certain conditions are met. Wilson had a good start to last season but tailed off badly. I wouldn't say that Wilson is very obviously the better player. However Bertrand Traoré £16m I rest my case your honour but that is almost not the point.

If Burnley don't want to buy him who else is going to pay £20m or £15m or even £10m? I am sure there is a queue of suitors.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on October 03, 2020, 01:06:26 PM
If Diangana is worth £18m then surely Wilson is worth £20m. Wilson has had 2 good seasons in the Champ and 1 in the Prem.

Wilson couldn't nail down a place in Bournemouth's team last season. He startedone game post lockdown.

With Diangana, you are buying potential and buying a player who hasn't yet struggled at prem level. He was also wanted by West Ham - Liverpool have given up on Wilson.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on October 03, 2020, 04:47:19 PM
Manchester United are in talks with Edinson Cavani's agent. The former PSG striker wants a multi-year contract worth €10m+ a season plus a huge agent fee. (Source: @FabrizioRomano)

They sound like a rich mans West Brom signing golden oldies  :D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on October 04, 2020, 03:47:48 PM
Manchester United have reached an agreement with Porto for the €20m signing of Alex Telles. It's a done deal. The left-back will have his medical tonight. (Source: Sky Sport News)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on October 04, 2020, 03:54:44 PM
Manchester United have reached an agreement with Porto for the €20m signing of Alex Telles. It's a done deal. The left-back will have his medical tonight. (Source: Sky Sport News)

Porto signed him for €6.5 million.

Where does it leave Luke Shaw?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on October 04, 2020, 04:59:42 PM
Porto signed him for €6.5 million.

Where does it leave Luke Shaw?

Sorry Mark my phone auto corrects Luke Shaw to well, what you just deleted.   ;D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on October 04, 2020, 05:06:47 PM
Edinson Cavani has arrived in Manchester to complete the final details of his move to Manchester United. He will undergo his medical later today, with the announcement expected tomorrow. (Source: ESPN)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on October 04, 2020, 05:13:55 PM
Judging by todays performance they will need a miracle..4-1 down at home to Spurs and down to 10 men
Expect all the transfer columns to be 50% filled with who Man United are being linked with.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: zippyandbungle on October 04, 2020, 09:19:19 PM
Edinson Cavani has arrived in Manchester to complete the final details of his move to Manchester United. He will undergo his medical later today, with the announcement expected tomorrow. (Source: ESPN)
And when he arrived he said “bugger this“ and started coughing loudly.., he’s now back on the Eurostar
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on October 05, 2020, 12:16:23 PM
Loftus Cheek likely going to Fulham
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on October 05, 2020, 12:50:01 PM
Everton have signed Godfrey from Norwich for £25 million rising to £30 million.

They signed him from York for £150k.

The players are out there.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: DaveWBA on October 05, 2020, 01:13:44 PM
Everton have signed Godfrey from Norwich for £25 million rising to £30 million.

They signed him from York for £150k.

The players are out there.

Dowling's spreadsheet has probably run out of columns.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Webby on October 05, 2020, 01:54:10 PM
Everton have signed Godfrey from Norwich for £25 million rising to £30 million.

They signed him from York for £150k.

The players are out there.

True but they signed him what, 4 years ago? So if we sign a League 2 player now for £150k he's not going to get the 4 years PL and Champ experience to make him worth that or put him in that quality bracket quick enough.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on October 05, 2020, 03:56:37 PM
In addition to a possible move for Ruben Loftus Cheek, Fulham are supposed to be signing centre halves from the continent this afternoon (fromer Germany U21 Timo Baumgartl from PSV and Danish international Joachim Anderson from Lyon).

No idea about either of them.  Feels a bit scattergun to do that all on deadline day but could help them.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on October 05, 2020, 03:59:27 PM
In addition to a possible move for Ruben Loftus Cheek, Fulham are supposed to be signing centre halves from the continent this afternoon (fromer Germany U21 Timo Baumgartl from PSV and Danish international Joachim Anderson from Lyon).

No idea about either of them.  Feels a bit scattergun to do that all on deadline day but could help them.

Feels like a US pro wrestling promoter with a copy of Football Manager.  ;D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on October 05, 2020, 04:43:00 PM
True but they signed him what, 4 years ago? So if we sign a League 2 player now for £150k he's not going to get the 4 years PL and Champ experience to make him worth that or put him in that quality bracket quick enough.

This is why your recruitment shouldn't soley focus on just the coming 12 months, something Dowling admitted he was doing last summer.

A number of the more "efficient" lower prem clubs have this summer continued with their policy of buying "ones for the future" in addition to players for the here and now. Leeds, Brighton, Burnley, Villa, Brentford and Wolves have all done this. They know that if one or two of these players develop into premier league standard players further down the line, it will save them £15m-£20m a piece in 2 or 3 years.

If you have less resources than your competitors, you have to be really smart in how you use them. All of the clubs listed above are outside the "big money 6", so they are looking at ways they can do business that closes the gap on the fact they have less money to spend. It feels this year like we have just done a budget version of what those with more resources do instead of showing signs of creative thinking.

Where is the longer term planning at the Albion? I'm just not seeing much at the moment. When you look at the rest of the division with their big money owners and creative recruitment teams, I just don't see where the space is for a club with no resources AND little to no advanced strategy.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: FallOutBoy on October 05, 2020, 04:47:30 PM
This is why your recruitment shouldn't soley focus on just the coming 12 months, something Dowling admitted he was doing last summer.

A number of the more "efficient" lower prem clubs have this summer continued with their policy of buying "ones for the future" in addition to players for the here and now. Leeds, Brighton, Burnley, Villa, Brentford and Wolves have all done this. They know that if one or two of these players develop into premier league standard players further down the line, it will save them £15m-£20m a piece in 2 or 3 years.

If you have less resources than your competitors, you have to be really smart in how you use them. All of the clubs listed above are outside the "big money 6", so they are looking at ways they can do business that closes the gap on the fact they have less money to spend. It feels this year like we have just done a budget version of what those with more resources do instead of showing signs of creative thinking.

Where is the longer term planning at the Albion? I'm just not seeing much at the moment. When you look at the rest of the division with their big money owners and creative recruitment teams, I just don't see where the space is for a club with no resources AND little to no advanced strategy.


That sums up my thinking to a tee. Instead of spending money on Kipre (for example), is there not a young player from League 1 / 2, or abroad, that we could have invested that money in for longer-term returns?

Ever since Ashworth left it has been about short-term fixes, and Dowling isn't changing tack enough. Younger players, certainly, but they're all a bit obvious and not as good as the players they're replacing.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: MarkW on October 05, 2020, 06:24:31 PM
Did I mention Joe Rodon at Swansea as an option at CB? He's in talks with Spurs. Ball playing centre back, highly rated.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on October 05, 2020, 06:28:25 PM
Did I mention Joe Rodon at Swansea as an option at CB? He's in talks with Spurs. Ball playing centre back, highly rated.

£18 million.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: MarkW on October 05, 2020, 06:37:04 PM
£18 million.

Ooft, not one for us then!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: zippyandbungle on October 05, 2020, 06:45:14 PM
Everton have signed Godfrey from Norwich for £25 million rising to £30 million.

They signed him from York for £150k.

The players are out there.
They are...kipre could be one of them ...but he probably won’t even get a fair chance...that sort of thing puts players off .
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on October 05, 2020, 06:51:11 PM
Ruben Loftus-Cheek is set to join Fulham on loan for the season from Chelsea.
 (Source: Telegraph)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on October 05, 2020, 07:18:25 PM
Tosin also signing for Fulham on loan.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on October 05, 2020, 07:22:00 PM
Not sure if the centre half signings do much for Fulham but if Loftus-Cheek can get back to his best that's a solid top half player in their midfield.

Fulham haven't spent loads this window but they should have enough now to atleast give it a go under a competent coach (not Parker for me).

Starting to look like we are in a league of 1 for that bottom spot.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gavinrussell on October 05, 2020, 07:26:38 PM
Everton close to signing Roma keeper Olsen..looks like Pickford might be on his way..
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on October 05, 2020, 07:26:52 PM
Jack Wilshere is on a free now apparently. Mutual agreement reached with him and WHU.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on October 05, 2020, 07:42:56 PM
West Ham fand not really sad to see him go. He needs a oay as you play deal at a club like Swansea really. Expect Derby or Forest to have him though.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on October 05, 2020, 07:47:41 PM
Leeds have signed Raphinha
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on October 05, 2020, 08:51:09 PM
Chris Willock signs for QPR. Interesting to see how he gets on with a full season playing first team football.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on October 06, 2020, 10:51:23 AM
2 potentially brilliant strategic deals from Ashworth down at Brighton for two up and coming Poland players. Loaned straight back out.

Shows us what we're missing unfortunately with Dowling in place.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: FallOutBoy on October 06, 2020, 01:08:45 PM
2 potentially brilliant strategic deals from Ashworth down at Brighton for two up and coming Poland players. Loaned straight back out.

Shows us what we're missing unfortunately with Dowling in place.

The midfielder, Moder? One I always sign on FIFA.

No indication he'll be good of course, but very highly rated.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on October 06, 2020, 01:37:33 PM
Lots of people tipping Brighton to struggle and that may be the case, but considering Brighton have been a bit short of money this window, they have made some really smart signings.

Ashworth always made sure he signed 1 player for the future near enough every transfer window when he was with us. This summer he has signed 5 or 6 for Brighton, who are supplementing their brilliant academy with exciting youngsters from home and abroad.

We could really do with Brighton staying up this year as I wouldn't want to play them in the championship next season. They have a few first team stars who could make them north of 100m easily and still would have the best young side in the division.

They show just how far behind the rest we are.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on October 10, 2020, 09:30:06 PM
West Ham are on the verge of agreeing a deal to sign Brentford winger Said Benrahma.

The clubs are in advanced talks over a deal that could potentially be worth in the region of £30m.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SirTonyM on October 10, 2020, 09:40:10 PM
West Ham are on the verge of agreeing a deal to sign Brentford winger Said Benrahma.

The clubs are in advanced talks over a deal that could potentially be worth in the region of £30m.

Brentford sell 2 players for 63 million that they paid 4.5 million for....
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on October 10, 2020, 10:01:36 PM
Now they have 2 clubs interested the auction begins! Perfect for Brentford.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: caravanc58 on October 10, 2020, 10:03:39 PM
Brentford sell 2 players for 63 million that they paid 4.5 million for....
That's what excellent scouting brings.
Benrahma was playing Ligue 2 football two years ago in France and Watkins in League 2 at Exeter.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Blowee on October 11, 2020, 09:35:21 AM
Brentford sell 2 players for 63 million that they paid 4.5 million for....
A good way to keep afloat in the Championship. Ok they may sign a few lemons but if you manage to sell one a season on at those transfer fees that more than pays to keep the club going. It shows how much a good scouting system is worth.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: skyclad99 on October 11, 2020, 09:53:50 AM
West Ham are on the verge of agreeing a deal to sign Brentford winger Said Benrahma.

The clubs are in advanced talks over a deal that could potentially be worth in the region of £30m.

From the WH websites a few weeks ago, it was said that GD needed to be sold to generate the funds for this player. However, I also heard Sullivan on the radio the other day saying that they do not need any more wingers as he has more than enough, which is why they sanctioned the GD sale.

Personally I thought that they were desperate for centre backs myself, and they failed to land Tarkowski. What a strange club they are......
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on October 11, 2020, 10:23:35 AM
Liverpool are in talks with Stoke City to sign Jack Butland. The goalkeeper could go straight in the team to face Everton. (Source: Daily Mirror)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on October 11, 2020, 11:31:39 AM
Thought I'd do a wash up of the window I'll do a European one this week and final wrap on the English one once the mini window closes next week given there may yet be some significant deals

Looking at the big 4 leagues in the round turnover is down dramatically across the board and an equally profound drop in the net spend figures in most cases. Figures in brackets represent a negative balance on transactions.

La Liga        2020 Turnover £810m, net spend £79m      2019 Turnover £2.13bn net spend (£282m)
Bundesliga  2020 Turnover £581m, net spend £0.18m    2019 Turnover £1,19bn net spend (£155m)
Serie A       2020 Turnover £1.3bn, net spend (£53m)     2019 Turnover £1.8bn, net spend  (£302m)
Ligue 1      2020 Turnover £742m,  net spend (£57m)     2019 Turnover £1.4bn,  (£118m)

A couple of observations the impact of the loan to buy deals is huge particularly in Serie A. Much of this year's expenditure has been prearranged as part of last year's window roughly half of the top 25 transfers in Italy were loan to buy deals going permanent.

PSG's activity has a disproportionate impact on the French market. Their net spend of £50m which was mainly due to them making Icardi permanent is way bigger than any other French club.

Outside the Big 5 leagues there was very little happening that generates fees. Those that don't have the benefit of European football and or the benefit of a big inbound transfer fee are just signing loanees and frees. The one big exception was Benefica who were spending like drunken sailors on shore leave. Then managed to get themselves knocked out of the CL flogged Dias to City in a deal that somehow valued Otamendi at £13m but that left them at break even for the window.

Overall the Premier League has been European football's ATM Chelsea alone have pumped in £173m of funds across 4 transfers.

Havertz £72m from Leverkuesn who spent £28m and banked the rest.

Werner £43m from RB Leipzig who spent £30m and banked the rest

Ziyech £36m  from Ajax who spent the fee on buying 5 players although they did have the benefit of the Van De Beek fee (£35m) from Man United  whichwas  unspent and no doubt helping fund the club through these difficult times

Mendy £21m from Stade Rennais who were the only club to spend more than they were paid by Premier League clubs.

Green Eyed Envy Corner is officially closed for the window players I liked for the Albion who went elsewhere

I flagged up a bunch of likely prospects at the beginning of the window of which the following moved

Ibrahim Sangaré Tolouse to PSV £7m
Nicola Moro Zagreb to CSKA Moscow £8m
Serhou Guirassy Amiens to Stade Rennais £13m
Alfred Gomis Dijon to Stade Rennais £8m
Habib Diallo Metz to Strasbourg £9m

It looks like I'm moonlighting for Stade Rennais recruitment department.

We were actually linked with Diallo and I was surprised I genuinely thought he would go to a club with at least Europa League football for him to end up Strasbourg as their record signing is shocking. Especially when you consider Strasbourg are already well covered at Centre Forward and they have lost 4 of their opening league fixtures and are arguably Metz's biggest rivals.

It will be interesting to see how those deals pan out.

Finally the strangest tale of the transfer window is that of Jean-Kévin Augustin who moved from RB Leipzig to Nantes on a free. This may yet prove to the transfer coup for Nantes or another bizarre misstep in the career of the young Frenchman.

Augustin started out at PSG where he was seen as a hot prospect but given the talent at the club was unlikely to break through. As a 20 year old based on nothing much more than potential Leipzig signed for £14m. He didn't really breakthrough at Leipzig and two years latter he was loaned out to Monaco at the start of 19/20.

Nothing particularly good happened to him at Monaco he is now 22 and his potential still seems to be largely unrealised. In January he returns to Leipzig and is loaned to Leeds but this time with a £20m obligation to buy if Leeds are promoted (Champagne corks popping in RB Leipzig's recruitment department obviously leftover from the stock they got in when they unloaded Olly Burke to us).

Barely two months into his loan spell he is a reject from the planet Beilsa and back at Leipzig. Leeds get promoted but refuse to pay the fee. The two clubs are now going to court to resolve the matter and poor old Jean-Kevin has been shunted to Nantes like an ugly duckling. Go show them Jean-Kevin you will be a swan*

* There is no rational evidence for this assertion.   

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on October 16, 2020, 06:36:26 PM
Phillips to Cardiff is a shame. Superb keeper in the making.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on October 16, 2020, 07:36:40 PM
£5 million upfront for Benrahma. Can't imagine the Bees are particularly happy with that.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on October 16, 2020, 07:38:19 PM
20m to follow at end of season and another 5m in potential bonuses.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on October 16, 2020, 10:41:48 PM
Butland to CPFC completed also Kongolo signed for Fuham.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on October 17, 2020, 12:02:20 AM
With the English window closing this is the final reckoning

Premier League 2020 Turnover £1.73bn Net Spend (£905m) 2019 £2.6bn Net Spend (£625m)
Championship 2020 Turnover £ 354m Net Spend £145m 2019 £486m Net Spend £136m

The Premier League is football's ATM in 2020. Turnover reduced but net spend up by 50%.

Looking at the individual deals it seems young elite level players have held their value but older less high profile players that typically teams are trying to unload the value has collapsed to the point that they have been virtually given away or have been retained. There are a lot of big squads with plenty of players who don't look likely to feature frequently. 

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on October 17, 2020, 09:12:29 AM
With the English window closing this is the final reckoning

Premier League 2020 Turnover £1.73bn Net Spend (£905m) 2019 £2.6bn Net Spend (£625m)
Championship 2020 Turnover £ 354m Net Spend £145m 2019 £486m Net Spend £136m

The Premier League is football's ATM in 2020. Turnover reduced but net spend up by 50%.

Looking at the individual deals it seems young elite level players have held their value but older less high profile players that typically teams are trying to unload the value has collapsed to the point that they have been virtually given away or have been retained. There are a lot of big squads with plenty of players who don't look likely to feature frequently.

Further evidence as to why the Government should not bail out this industry.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on October 17, 2020, 09:42:21 AM
Further evidence as to why the Government should not bail out this industry.

As the window unfolded that was very clear. A 5% levy on the transfer fee net spend funds League 1 and 2 for the season so there is no way anyone else should be picking up the tab.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on October 17, 2020, 10:14:14 AM
Joe Roden moving to Spurs for relative peanuts surprised me the most. Swansea must be in a sticky financial situation, I found it weird how they sold so many players after their relegation 2 years ago, last summer they got £15m for Dan James and yet they have still ended up accepting a bit of a low ball offer from Spurs.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on October 17, 2020, 12:40:51 PM
Further evidence as to why the Government should not bail out this industry.

Those 2 divisions definitely shouldn't be bailed out. Interested in the numbers for Leagues 1 and 2.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on October 23, 2020, 10:06:48 AM
The ones that didn't get away players still on Premier League clubs books but not in their Premier League squads some high profile players and possibly more in annual wages than the PL offered the EFL by way of assistance.

Danny Drinkwater (Chelsea)
Phil Jones (Man U)
Sergio Romero (Man U)
Danny Rose (Spurs)
Mesut Özil (Arsenal)
Sokratis (Arsenal)
Yannick Bolasie (Everton)
Matthew Pennington (Everton)
Josh Onomah (Fulham)
Jean Michaël Seri (Fulham)
Kevin McDonald (Fulham)
Stefan Johansen (Fulham)
Rolando Aarons (Newcastle)
Achraf Lazaar (Newcastle)
Conor Wickham (Crystal Palace)
Wayne Hennessey (Crystal Palace)
Conor Shaughnessy (Leeds United)
Ouasim Bouy (Leeds United)

Some of the careers here are nothing short of bizarre the last name Ouasim Bouy signed from Juventus on a free in 2017 was given a 4 year deal is going into the last year of it and as far has I can make out has never kicked a ball for Leeds.

This is shameful it is an utter waste and whether players are sitting on contracts or not it just speaks volumes as to the state of the game.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on October 23, 2020, 10:34:17 AM
Fulham have 4 (very good) players not even in their squad. All four could be playing first team in the Championship or in La Liga/Bundesliga/Serie A. Why have they not loaned any out?

There are some real sad cases there. I read a quote yesterday about Phil Jones. He was offered a testimonial but turned it down as "nobody would want to turn up".

As for Ozil, he must be the biggest tragedy. There aren't many more exciting players to watch in European football over the last 10 years.

The reality for most is that the players won't accept pay cuts and other clubs can't afford their wages during this pandemic, but that can't be the case for all of them.

A real waste of talent.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on October 23, 2020, 10:39:36 AM
I don't think Ozil is a waste as such. He refuses to take a paycut and prefers to waste his time doing nothing. Absolutely his right to take 350k pw for nothing but if he really wanted to play he could easily make it happen.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on October 23, 2020, 10:43:51 AM

possibly more in annual wages than the PL offered the EFL by way of assistance.


Could well be! Conservatively I get that group to £750,000 per week which is staggering.

Good work if you can get it!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on October 23, 2020, 11:11:15 AM
I don't think Ozil is a waste as such. He refuses to take a paycut and prefers to waste his time doing nothing. Absolutely his right to take 350k pw for nothing but if he really wanted to play he could easily make it happen.
Ozil whilst a mercenary added to the problem by quite rightly questioning the chinese and their policies towards muslims, damaging for the Arsenal boards (Kroenke) and their many other sporting businesses TV rights.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on October 23, 2020, 12:22:41 PM
Criminal that Romero hasn't got a place, yet our 'keeper' will play 38 games.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: FallOutBoy on October 23, 2020, 03:53:12 PM
Criminal that Romero hasn't got a place, yet our 'keeper' will play 38 games.

Absolutely. Should have gone for him on loan.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: tommcneill on October 23, 2020, 04:27:41 PM
Surprised at some of the names on that list
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on October 24, 2020, 10:27:57 AM
It is a waste of talent and it highlights the inefficiency of the football market. Plainly neither party expected things to end up like this when they signed their contracts and in truth injury has played a part in some of the back stories here.

However I frequently have cause to question the rationality of football clubs and the lack of foresight  in many cases self evident. I would also question footballers who jump at the big contract which is understandable without really asking the question is this the right move for me as a player?

 



Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on October 29, 2020, 02:58:05 PM
I had a look at Mr Ouasim Bouy, incredible since 2012 the man has played less than 100 games, whilst traversing the top leagues in Italy, Germany, Holland, Greece, England.  In fact last season was his most demanding with 18 appearances, before that he averaged 9 / season !

It beggars belief that this man gets rich for doing nothing, his agent must be FANTASTIC at his job.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on October 29, 2020, 03:37:33 PM
I had a look at Mr Ouasim Bouy, incredible since 2012 the man has played less than 100 games, whilst traversing the top leagues in Italy, Germany, Holland, Greece, England.  In fact last season was his most demanding with 18 appearances, before that he averaged 9 / season !

It beggars belief that this man gets rich for doing nothing, his agent must be FANTASTIC at his job.

I've posted a link to this bloke before but I give you the name Carlos "Kaiser" Henrique Raposo.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on October 29, 2020, 04:02:03 PM
I've posted a link to this bloke before but I give you the name Carlos "Kaiser" Henrique Raposo.

I don't think its the same geezer Dan, this one has been on Leeds books for last 2 years, whereas Old Carlos was a few years back, Ouasim is Dutch and the Carlos the Jackal is brazilian
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on October 29, 2020, 04:09:38 PM
I don't think its the same geezer Dan, this one has been on Leeds books for last 2 years, whereas Old Carlos was a few years back, Ouasim is Dutch and the Carlos the Jackal is brazilian

I know it's not the same geezer, the one I linked's in his fifties now. It's just that he made a living from the game without ever actually playing one. Money quite literally for nothing  ;D .
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on October 29, 2020, 04:20:09 PM
I know it's not the same geezer, the one I linked's in his fifties now. It's just that he made a living from the game without ever actually playing one. Money quite literally for nothing  ;D .

got it now, I read it wrong ! cheers
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on November 21, 2020, 10:55:43 PM
Dean Henderson wants to go on loan in Jan so he can play in Euros. Leeds and Brighton in for him - The Sun
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on January 30, 2021, 09:09:20 AM
Been meaning to reboot this thread for most of the month but given the lack of activity it hasn't seemed worthwhile.

Going into the last couple of days of the window it is worth recapping on what's happened.

Premier League

The most significant action has been outbound very few permanent deals with loans being the order of the day.

The highlights are as follows:

Arsenal
Have bought Martin Ødegaard in from Real Madrid on loan with no option to buy and finally moved Ozil on to Fennerbache. Not sure what to make of the Ødegaard deal not sure why maybe they have the notion that Real will sell in the summer and they might steal a march on the opposition.

Frankly I am relieved that Ozil has gone, though I do worry about what the small army of sports journalists employed to keep me abreast of the situation are going to do now.

West Ham

The Hammers have been busy sold Haller to Ajax for £20m which is one of the bigger deals of the window. They are taking a bit of a bath there but things haven't worked out for him at the London Stadium. This does leave them a bit short of strikers so the obvious answer is bring in Jesse Lingard on loan, no I have no clue either. 

Aston Villa

Have made another good signing in Morgan Sansom from Marseille. I am a long term admirer of the player who is a very good all round midfielder and I think he is an upgrade on McGinn. As a consequence they have let Hourihane go out on loan to Swansea.

Man United

Have signed Diallo from Atalanta for a staggering £19m. Thought to be latest hot talent off the Atalanta production line he has only just made his first team debut and United have pounced. We will see how this pans out.

Crystal Palace

Have completed what might turn out to be the best piece of business of the window with Jean-Philippe Mateta joining on loan with an option to buy from Mainz. Young and maybe a bit raw but there is a talent there with a lot of upside potential and he hasn't cost them a fortune.

We can see you sneaking out

January is often the month when players that arrive with much fanfare are quietly let go. This month is no exception Slimani, Ighalo and Drinkwater all leaving for pastures new the latter on loan obviously.

Elsewhere in the top 5 leagues nothing much is happening, the Haller deal is the biggest and it must be sometime since a Dutch team spent the biggest fee in a window.

It noticeable with one or two exceptions the players that have moved for significant fees are generally young i.e. under 25 with very obvious upside potential.

A few have caught my eye Dominik Szoboszlai traveling the well worn path from RB Salzbrg to RB Leipzig. Dennis Man has finally got a big move from  FCSB to Parma surprised someone a little bit further up the food chain hasn't taken the plunge before now.

Maybe this window is significant for what hasn't happened or not yet anyway. Liverpool haven't bought a Centre Half the struggling clubs haven't strengthened and the French fire sale hasn't materialised to any significant degree. This obviously could change in the next day or so but maybe financial reality has finally caught up with football.










Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on January 30, 2021, 10:27:22 AM
Been meaning to reboot this thread for most the month but given the lack of activity it hasn't seemed worthwhile.......maybe financial reality has finally caught up with football.

That was a well presented post Stan', I won't be holding my breath in anticipation of the last point coming to pass over a longer time frame though.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: lewisant on January 30, 2021, 11:09:39 AM
Thanks Stan, great post as per usual.

I find it fascinating how loans are becoming much more common place these days. Is there a reason for this? I'm not really up to date with the finances of football but i know there are some fantastic posters here that often have good insight on it, I just don't process figures and maths all that well.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on January 30, 2021, 11:35:35 AM
I agree that the Mateta signing at the rumoured price is a great deal for Palace.  Him and Maupay were both in the french second division at a similar time, yet one cost over £20m after a season in the championship and the others just been scooped up for less than £15m after a decent stint in the bundesliga.

The potential upside is huge, and if he does flop I think there is still a decent market for him in France and Germany. 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on January 30, 2021, 02:22:32 PM
Thanks Stan, great post as per usual.

I find it fascinating how loans are becoming much more common place these days. Is there a reason for this? I'm not really up to date with the finances of football but i know there are some fantastic posters here that often have good insight on it, I just don't process figures and maths all that well.

Loans have grown as a proportion of deals in recent years there are several reasons some of them financial but also because of the developmental model used by the bigger clubs.

The Italian giants have always used the loan market to farm out younger players across Serie A and B. This model has been adopted by Chelsea and Man City in the Premier League and it allows those clubs to stockpile talent. The big Spanish sides have tended to use their B teams but still loan out young players e.g. Martin Ødegaard who even at 17 might not have been stretched by B team football.

The other big reason why clubs go down the route is trying de-risk transfers. Where a player is changing leagues and or making a step up a loan to buy gives the buying club the comfort of trying before they buy. Equally the loan market is a bit of a safety net on transfers in general and this is where the accounting and maths comes into play.

To demonstrate let's create an artificial example. Carlos Kickaball 23 is the rising star for mid table La Liga team Real San Miguel and impresses a number of Premier League clubs including mid level team Arkell's United. A £20m deal is agreed and Carlos agrees a £50k a week 5 year contract (he was earning £10k a week in Spain). He is costing Arkell's £6.5m a year (£4m in depreciation and £2.5m in wages.

However Arkell's are confident that they have a star and could easily sell young Carlos for £40m in just a couple of years time and the wage is nowhere near their top earner.

Things do not go well for Carlos he doesn't settle Arkell's change the manager mid way through the season and he finds himself frozen out. To compound matters Carlos is desperately homesick. Arkell's know this isn't working and the obvious thing to is ship Carlos back to Spain. One small problem mid level La Liga teams don't spend £20m on players nor do they pay them wages at anywhere near £2.5m a year. Now Arkell's could just take the hit pay up the contract and take a loss on the fee.

The only problem is all that cost lands in one smelly lump into one years accounts. Lets say they lose £10m on the fee and buying out the contract costs £4m (everyone is being very reasonable here). Arkell's finance director is a deeply unhappy man and so is their manager because all of that is coming out of this year's budget.

Maybe there is a solution, a loan to Turkish club (WTAF!!) Effesspor. How does it work? Arkell's are stuck for £6.5m a year almost regardless. However instead of crystallising £14m of losses they get a loan fee of £1m to offset against the £4m of depreciation and it get's better. Effesspor are happy to pay half Carlos's wages which is as good as any Spanish club but because of the favourable tax regime to get Carlos to his net position the overall wage needs to be 20% less so this saves Arkell's nearly £3m in wages. To move Carlos on either costs £14m to sell today or £2.5m to loan out, what are you going to do?

The above is hugely simplified but that is often why players are loaned rather than sold.





Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: costa blanca baggie on January 30, 2021, 02:51:11 PM
Loans have grown as a proportion of deals in recent years there are several reasons some of them financial but also because of the developmental model used by the bigger clubs.

The Italian giants have always used the loan market to farm out younger players across Serie A and B. This model has been adopted by Chelsea and Man City in the Premier League and it allows those clubs to stockpile talent. The big Spanish sides have tended to use their B teams but still loan out young players e.g. Martin Ødegaard who even at 17 might not have been stretched by B team football.

The other big reason why clubs go down the route is trying de-risk transfers. Where a player is changing leagues and or making a step up a loan to buy gives the buying club the comfort of trying before they buy. Equally the loan market is a bit of a safety net on transfers in general and this is where the accounting and maths comes into play.

To demonstrate let's create an artificial example. Carlos Kickaball 23 is the rising star for mid table La Liga team Real San Miguel and impresses a number of Premier League clubs including mid level team Arkell's United. A £20m deal is agreed and Carlos agrees a £50k a week 5 year contract (he was earning £10k a week in Spain). He is costing Arkell's £6.5m a year (£4m in depreciation and £2.5m in wages.

However Arkell's are confident that they have a star and could easily sell young Carlos for £40m in just a couple of years time and the wage is nowhere near their top earner.

Things do not go well for Carlos he doesn't settle Arkell's change the manager mid way through the season and he finds himself frozen out. To compound matters Carlos is desperately homesick. Arkell's know this isn't working and the obvious thing to is ship Carlos back to Spain. One small problem mid level La Liga teams don't spend £20m on players nor do they pay them wages at anywhere near £2.5m a year. Now Arkell's could just take the hit pay up the contract and take a loss on the fee.

The only problem is all that cost lands in one smelly lump into one years accounts. Lets say they lose £10m on the fee and buying out the contract costs £4m (everyone is being very reasonable here). Arkell's finance director is a deeply unhappy man and so is their manager because all of that is coming out of this year's budget.

Maybe there is a solution, a loan to Turkish club (WTAF!!) Effesspor. How does it work? Arkell's are stuck for £6.5m a year almost regardless. However instead of crystallising £14m of losses they get a loan fee of £1m to offset against the £4m of depreciation and it get's better. Effesspor are happy to pay half Carlos's wages which is as good as any Spanish club but because of the favourable tax regime to get Carlos to his net position the overall wage needs to be 20% less so this saves Arkell's nearly £3m in wages. To move Carlos on either costs £14m to sell today or £2.5m to loan out, what are you going to do?

The above is hugely simplified but that is often why players are loaned rather than sold.
That’s simplified? Jeez!!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on January 31, 2021, 09:48:45 AM
Tottenham and England left-back Danny Rose's transfer to Trabzonspor could fall through after the Turkish side admitted their move for the 30-year-old would be "very difficult" to complete because of Covid-19 restrictions. (Talksport)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on January 31, 2021, 09:49:41 AM
Everton's Turkish striker Cenk Tosun, 29 will be in Istanbul on Sunday to complete a loan move to former club Besiktas. (Sky Sports)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on January 31, 2021, 10:22:00 AM
Leicester have entered the race to sign Ainsley Maitland-Niles on loan from Arsenal. (Source: @David_Ornstein)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 31, 2021, 02:32:23 PM
Leicester have entered the race to sign Ainsley Maitland-Niles on loan from Arsenal. (Source: @David_Ornstein)

It’s a better move for him than coming to the hawthorns
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on January 31, 2021, 04:05:29 PM
DEAL DONE: Bayer Leverkusen have confirmed the signing of Demarai Gray on a contract until 2022. Fee around £2m. (Source: @bayer04_en)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on January 31, 2021, 04:27:33 PM
Tottenham have reached an agreement with Watford for the transfer of Maurizio Pochettino. (Source: @SpursOfficial)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: KN22 on January 31, 2021, 06:50:00 PM
Thanks Stan, great post as per usual.

I find it fascinating how loans are becoming much more common place these days. Is there a reason for this? I'm not really up to date with the finances of football but i know there are some fantastic posters here that often have good insight on it, I just don't process figures and maths all that well.

The really simple  reason is that a loan is not nearly as big a financial risk as a purchase. If things go wrong the impact on the club taking the guy on loan is smaller. It also gives a chance to try before you buy of course.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on February 01, 2021, 03:59:04 PM
Josh King on his was to Fulham, hearing that the window has pretty much exploded today, even as far down as league 2. Not a good luck and shows how badly English football is run.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on February 01, 2021, 04:01:26 PM
Fulham also in talks with Josh Maja as well.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on February 01, 2021, 05:52:13 PM
Josh King on his was to Fulham, hearing that the window has pretty much exploded today, even as far down as league 2. Not a good luck and shows how badly English football is run.

Wouldn't disagree with the notion that the game is badly run. However the  deadline dash isn't a symptom. With so much football played in January clubs won't release to  the last minute because of the possibility of injury and as often said players with multiple options won't commit either.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on February 01, 2021, 05:55:54 PM
Maybe, but when you look at the amount of kids who are going out on loan today who haven’t played a minute of football in January, I really struggle to work out why clubs are so conservative and unable to see it was obvious they could have been released earlier.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on February 01, 2021, 06:19:29 PM
Palma have signed Joshua Zirkzee now as well. Another who id have though may have attracted interest from a bigger club, especially at £15m.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on February 01, 2021, 06:34:38 PM
Palma have signed Joshua Zirkzee now as well. Another who id have though may have attracted interest from a bigger club, especially at £15m.

Loan with option to buy I think Parma could yet go down so probably don't want to commit to that sort of fee Serie B
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2021, 08:08:32 PM
Everton agree fee with Bournemouth for Josh King
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on February 01, 2021, 08:17:09 PM
Everton agree fee with Bournemouth for Josh King

Rather them than Fulham.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on February 01, 2021, 08:27:56 PM
Fulham getting Maja
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on February 01, 2021, 09:56:23 PM
Telegraph reporting King is going to Fulham and not Everton. At one point today, it looked like we had possibly done enough to atleast get ahead of them, but King and Maja could be decent signings and give them more of a goal threat.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2021, 09:56:50 PM
Strange would thought King would prefer Everton. Better club.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on February 01, 2021, 10:00:24 PM
Telegraph reporting King is going to Fulham and not Everton. At one point today, it looked like we had possibly done enough to atleast get ahead of them, but King and Maja could be decent signings and give them more of a goal threat.
May well cancel out any advantage we gain from our dealings.  :(
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2021, 10:02:59 PM
May well cancel out any advantage we gain from our dealings.  :(

King has scored 0 in 12 games in the EFL this season but that may be him sulking to move.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on February 01, 2021, 10:04:50 PM
King has scored 0 in 12 games in the EFL this season but that may be him sulking to move.

Dont rate king that highly.
3 in 56 for Blackburn pre Bournemouth
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on February 01, 2021, 10:05:05 PM
Telegraph reporting King is going to Fulham and not Everton. At one point today, it looked like we had possibly done enough to atleast get ahead of them, but King and Maja could be decent signings and give them more of a goal threat.


I liked the idea of Maja for the championship. Not sure in the prem or at £10m!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2021, 10:05:57 PM
Dont rate king that highly.
3 in 56 for Blackburn pre Bournemouth

He's either being a titty babby or gone to the dogs
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on February 01, 2021, 10:06:30 PM
Looks like our old mate Dwight is going to walk away from the Geordies for free in the summer
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2021, 10:08:02 PM
Looks like our old mate Dwight is going to walk away from the Geordies for free in the summer

If we could get him in the EFL i'd be happy.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on February 01, 2021, 10:14:55 PM
Are Fulham seriously spending £10m on Maja?!

Daylight robbery.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2021, 10:20:41 PM
Sky saying deal for King is for 6 months only. Weird.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: tommcneill on February 01, 2021, 10:23:23 PM
Sky saying deal for King is for 6 months only. Weird.

He’s only got 6 months left at Bournemouth.

He’s asked for his free transfer wages now and I think they’ve all said NO.

So he’s having a 6 month loan so he can then go get whatever wages he wants or thinks he will get
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2021, 10:28:10 PM
He’s only got 6 months left at Bournemouth.

He’s asked for his free transfer wages now and I think they’ve all said NO.

So he’s having a 6 month loan so he can then go get whatever wages he wants or thinks he will get

So the Cherries are letting him go on a free in reality.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on February 01, 2021, 10:46:13 PM
Rumours are the move could see Bournemouth net up to £5m. Not quite sure how...
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2021, 10:48:11 PM
He's on good money which would be 2m to them , not sure where the other 3 is from
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2021, 10:53:06 PM
King has picked Everton. Good lad.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2021, 10:53:23 PM
Fulham get Maja instead.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on February 01, 2021, 10:54:09 PM
Ben Davies move to Liverpool getting a helluva lot of coverage. You'd think they had just signed Sergio Ramos.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2021, 10:55:52 PM
Ben Davies move to Liverpool getting a helluva lot of coverage. You'd think they had just signed Sergio Ramos.

He was only 500k, they casnt go wrong at that price.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2021, 11:01:56 PM
Newcastle signed Willock

Saints got Minamino
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on February 01, 2021, 11:09:15 PM
King gone as bench option to Everton fair enough smart move (not for Everton obviously)

Maja to Fulham even an out of sorts Mitrovic is a better option but maybe some use for them in the Championship.

Ben Davies move to Liverpool getting a helluva lot of coverage. You'd think they had just signed Sergio Ramos.

There's absolutely nothing else happening at any of the bigger clubs so hence the wall to wall coverage.

I've watched this unfold on twitter. Initially L'pool fans weren't impressed and a lot of FSG out types were kicking off. Then the smarter ones took the time to find out a little bit more and were a little bit placated now he's okay but I think it is because they are getting Kabak and boy have  I read some absolute tosh on that one.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2021, 11:10:41 PM
SSN saying 2 PL deal sheets submitted not yet completed. Until 1am to be finalised.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on February 02, 2021, 12:15:11 AM
Newcastle signed Willock

Saints got Minamino

Both interesting signings.

I really want Willock to kick on as England are crying out for somebody like him but need the Mags to fail.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on February 02, 2021, 12:16:43 AM
King gone as bench option to Everton fair enough smart move (not for Everton obviously)

Maja to Fulham even an out of sorts Mitrovic is a better option but maybe some use for them in the Championship.

There's absolutely nothing else happening at any of the bigger clubs so hence the wall to wall coverage.

I've watched this unfold on twitter. Initially L'pool fans weren't impressed and a lot of FSG out types were kicking off. Then the smarter ones took the time to find out a little bit more and were a little bit placated now he's okay but I think it is because they are getting Kabak and boy have  I read some absolute tosh on that one.

What do you think of Kabak?

Rumours are that Ben Davies has been signed for a low fee with a big sell on clause. Preston (and Liverpool) clearly see him as a short term gamble who can be flipped for a big price in 18 months time.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on February 02, 2021, 01:45:42 AM
What do you think of Kabak?

Rumours are that Ben Davies has been signed for a low fee with a big sell on clause. Preston (and Liverpool) clearly see him as a short term gamble who can be flipped for a big price in 18 months time.

Everything around him says potentially very good at 20 with 77 first team appearances and a Champions League Debut for Galatasaray at 18. Looks good even in a seriously bad Schalke team. Some excited souls talking about him being the long term successor to Van-Dijk and he might prove to be but he does need to train on. Having better players around him will help but he does need to develop certainly in possession.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on May 19, 2021, 01:14:48 AM
As we seem to be kicking off the transfer season with the news that Kane wants to leave Spurs though I'd reboot this thread.

This has all the hallmarks of an epic transfer saga. Kane wants out and he ideally wants to stay in the Premier which is just as well because aside from PSG there are only 3 clubs who might be in £100m plus market this summer (and right now I am not convinced there is a £100m plus market, at all) Man United Man City and Chelsea although none have previously broken that barrier. Yet Spurs are very reluctant sellers and the player is on a long contract.
 
If Haaland is available for a similar fee you get Haaland although it would seem that Dortmund have ruled out a summer move for him. Their qualification for the Champions League has certainly helped their resolve and I do wonder how this might impact on the future of Sancho. His sale seems to be have been generally accepted as inevitable this summer but at a figure quite a bit lower than that was being demanded last summer.

Oh and Messi might move so that will be fun.


Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on May 19, 2021, 08:24:28 AM
I believe Haaland's agent is Raiola, long term contracts may not have the greatest significance beyond player value. Depends on the highest bidder and whomever's willing to deal with a bloated egotistical boa constrictor of a 'representative' I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on May 19, 2021, 08:25:09 AM
Juve and Ronaldo may also part ways with many observers feeling Juve need rid. Where he ends is going to be fascinating. Back with Sporting maybe? Or will a big club go for him?

Kane to Real Madrid maybe? If he has another great international tournament this summer then maybe.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on May 19, 2021, 08:38:30 AM
I think Kane could end up staying with Spurs.

United will spend big on Sancho.  Chelsea / Tuchel I think will back Werner to score much more next season and I think City could be eyeing Haaland or Mbappe, who can’t both go to Real Madrid.


Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: seteefeet on May 19, 2021, 09:01:09 AM
Chelsea linked with Lewandowski. Shame as I quite like him.

Wouldn't it be great if the likes of him, Ronaldo, Messi all snubbed the Super League charlatans and signed for real clubs.
Imagine if they all turned up at Norwich or Saints, just for one season?  :)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on May 20, 2021, 01:52:14 PM
Everyone is skint unless they are owned by an oil state or Oligarch so there is a new game in town player swaps these are fun and there are way of clubs to pretend that their players are retaining their pre covid values and help plug the gaps in their finances.

The role model was last year's swap of Arthur and Pjanić between Barcalona and Juventus which allowed both clubs book a profit on the transfer.

Turning to Kane. It seems imperative that Spurs realise a fee in excess of £100m and at least 3 of the potential suitors are cash strapped but have the typically bloated squads and a lot of potential trades that can be used to bulk out a bit of cash to something that can persuade Spurs they are getting the fee.


Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on May 20, 2021, 10:03:13 PM
Chelsea linked with Lewandowski. Shame as I quite like him.

Wouldn't it be great if the likes of him, Ronaldo, Messi all snubbed the Super League charlatans and signed for real clubs.
Imagine if they all turned up at Norwich or Saints, just for one season?  :)
Byern weren't part of it so RL can stay there but yeah Ronaldo to say Sporting  messi to say Leicester or Ajax
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on May 21, 2021, 09:03:33 AM
The Athletic reporting that Man Utd are now increasingly confident of landing Jadon Sancho. While I feel sorry for Dortmund and hope that they rinse United of every last penny, it will be good to get Sancho back in England, mainly so that Southgate might take him more seriously. I get a slight impression that Southgate has a bit of the Luke Dowling's about him and is a bit domestic biased, but over the last 12 months Sancho has outperformed Sterling so a move to United should put him firmly in the frame.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on May 31, 2021, 05:27:48 PM
Quick round up of the early action in the market much of which was in the pipeline before the window opened a lot of the current deals are the buys in last summer's loan to buy deals.

England

Only one big money deal and that is Ibrahima Konaté joining Liverpool from RB Leipzig for £36m big fee but if he continues at his current rate of development then Liverpool can have a starting Centre Back for the next decade.

Other deals that have caught my eye. The annual "are they still at Chelsea?" moment has arrived

Marco van Ginkel has left Chelsea, after a career that spans 8 years and 4 games as has Victor Moses who joins Spartak Moscow for £4m

Walcott on a free to Southampton not sure about that one.

Watford have signed 19 year old Jamie Pollock from Grimsby (sure there is a joke in there somewhere) he is touted as top prospect at Centre Back and could be a bit of a catch at just under £300k

France

Nantes have triggered the option to buy Goalkeeper Alban Lafont for £6m from Fiorentina. He is a sensational shot stopper.

Memphis Depay has left Lyon and is heavily tipped to join Barcalona

Steady stream of talent exiting Ligue 1 will pick that up as I go through the other leagues.

Spain

They can't help themselves can they? While Barca and Real Madrid are struggling to raise money to go play in the transfer market they have both committed themselves to big contracts for high profile free agents Aguerro and Alaba the latter being reported as costing a eye watering £20m a year.

Germany

The RB Leipzig machine ticks over. Sold both Centre Backs (Konate and Upamecano) replaced them with Josko Gvardiol and Mohammed Simakan. Picked up a couple of other reinforcements Angelino from Man City and Benjamin Henricks from Monaco and have £20m in the bank.

Bayern have bought Upamecano but have said that is it as far as big money transfers go this window.

Dortmund have picked up a Goalkeeper Gregor Kobel from Bundesliga rivals Struttgart for£13m

Italy

Aside from the usual flurry of loan to buy deals nothing much happening aside from Milan picking up Goalkeeper Mike  Miagnan from Lille for just £11m although they have let Donnarumma go on a free. I think we call that ballsy.

Everyone wants to sell nobody wants to buy and the Euro's kick off in under a fortnight so it's going to be slow. Rumours will abound but actual action not much.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on May 31, 2021, 06:03:40 PM
.....Watford have signed 19 year old Jamie Pollock from Grimsby (sure there is a joke in there somewhere).....

As someone with a Halibut of picking up on such things I feel you Cod be right.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 06, 2021, 08:00:34 AM
Haven't updated this for a month because there hasn't been much happening. With players starting to return to their clubs and the 30th June contract date ticking over things have started to move a bit but without one of the super rich clubs splashing the cash I think things will remain slow.

England

Since I last updated this Villa have bought Emiliano Buendía for £34m and let Samatta go for about half of what they paid for him 18 months ago.

Norwich have been busy with the Buendia cash picking up Angus Gunn from Southampton and Left Winger Milot Rashica from Werder Bremen and secured Billy Gilmour on loan.


Burnley have bought in Nathan Collins for £12m from Stoke which has fuelled speculation that they might sell James Tarkowski

Leicester City have spent in excess of £40m in picking up Boubakary Soumaré and promising young striker Patson Daka. The former might be a precursor for Tielemans moving somewhere this summer.

Leeds Have made Jack Harrison's loan deal permeent after 3 years for £11m

Championship Corner

Lots of movement most of it in the out of contract and loan market.

Stoke have picked up the highly rated Ben Wilmott for £1.5m. The outbounds are remarkable in addition to selling Nathan Collins they have let 8 players go including Kevin Wimmer, Ryan Woods, and Benek Afobe. Who they signed for a combined fee in excess of £35m and who they have sold for nothing (Afobe is technically on loan at Millwall but his contract expires in June 22 so that's in effect a free but with added wage costs) They are still not clear of the very bad Premier League signings Martins-Indi has returned from a loan spell still has a year on his contract and Etebo is back from Turkey and has another 2 years of not playing for Stoke before his contract expires.

Luton have been busy picking up Henri Lansbury on a free and promising young Scot Allan Campbell from Motherwell

Bristol City Pearson has turned to a couple of players that have served him well in the past in Matty James and Andy King both are now at the tail end of their careers.

QPR have actually spent something on fees bringing in Sam Field, Andre Dozall, Jordy de Wijs in addition to the free transfer of Charlie Austin

Spain

The Spainish market is moribund the biggest fee is Jaun Foyth moving to Villarreal from Spurs for £13m.

Germany

RB Leipzig have sold 3 players for £80m and bought in 6 for £80m the most recent of which is Andres Silva from Eintracht Frankfurt for £20m. They might have picked up the free transfer of the window in 19 year old Brian Brobbey from Ajax if he trains on he will be scary good.

Wolfsberg Have swooped for 18 year old Belgium midfielder Aster Vranckx for £7m after his break out season with Mechelen

Italy

With both Juventus and Inter both cash strapped there isn't much driving the Italian market

Atalanta Continue to trade players making money but always unearthing new ones to replace those they sell on. They have bought in Goal Keeper Jaun Musso from Udenise while sellng on three players for a combined fee of £28m

Fiorentina Signed Nicolás González from Struttgart for £20m which a bit of a coup for what is nowadays a mid level Serie A club.

France

The well documented financial trauma in French football continues play out. Basically there is a steady exodus of talent

Champions Lille are being broken up the latest exit being Boubakary Soumaré for £18m this is widely seen as a knocked down price for a very bright talent.

The one team that seems to be bucking the trend Olympique Marseille who have thus far spent £22m on Gerson from Flanengo and £7.2m on Leonardo Balredi from Dortmund.

Sancho United is widely reported as being agreed, that plus the Euro's drawing to a close might breath some life into the market.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 06, 2021, 08:24:13 AM
https://twitter.com/ZachLowy/status/1412143891302780930

If you want a great read on Barcelona’s financial woes, have a look at the Twitter link above. Zach Lowry has claimed the are currently unable to formally register Depay, Messi, Aguero etc due to them exceeding their cap. Quite a few journalists retweetung it so it seems to have legs.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Barrington on July 06, 2021, 09:34:27 AM
https://twitter.com/ZachLowy/status/1412143891302780930

If you want a great read on Barcelona’s financial woes, have a look at the Twitter link above. Zach Lowry has claimed the are currently unable to formally register Depay, Messi, Aguero etc due to them exceeding their cap. Quite a few journalists retweetung it so it seems to have legs.

Very interesting read, thanks. However, I think most of us still expect them somehow to start the season with all of those new signings even though they can't afford it or shouldn't be allowed to by the financial rules of their league etc. All this whilst still not paying us a relatively measly amount for the young lad they stole from us. They'll come out smelling of roses in the end, even if regulations have to be bent specifically to help them.

P.S - £11 million is a bargain for Jack Harrison in this day and age. That's good business for Leeds.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Jeremy Roland Peace on July 06, 2021, 09:43:32 AM
Very interesting read, thanks. However, I think most of us still expect them somehow to start the season with all of those new signings even though they can't afford it or shouldn't be allowed to by the financial rules of their league etc. All this whilst still not paying us a relatively measly amount for the young lad they stole from us. They'll come out smelling of roses in the end, even if regulations have to be bent specifically to help them.

P.S - £11 million is a bargain for Jack Harrison in this day and age. That's good business for Leeds.

it's the same Barcelona that were allowed to buy a striker outside of a transfer window and the team they bought from weren't allowed to replace.
they will be allowed to do what they want when the time comes.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 06, 2021, 10:35:10 AM
To be honest we have arrived at the crisis point for Barcalona a little in the latter in the day than one might have expected. In the Goal piece the quote that I cherish the most is new President Laporta saying that the club "is much worse off than I thought".

Yet he only got elected by making promises (e.g. keeping Messi) that were incompatible with the known facts (if I as a casual observer in a foreign country know then frankly his ignorance is just wilful). He has subsequently doubled down by bringing in a slew of expensive free agents on wages that added costs to a wage bill that needed to be cut.

I look forward to the episode of "Can't Pay We'll Take it Away" where a couple of large gentleman and a van rock up at the Camp Nou and repossess the goalposts as part of the Barry settlement :D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 07, 2021, 09:26:12 AM
Premier League clubs continue to tap into the RB talent pool with Enock Mwepu joining Brighton from RB Salzburg for a shade over £20m this might indicate that Yves Bissouma is set to leave.

Further evidence of Barca's distress is the sale of Junior Firpo to Leeds for £13m while Firpo is a fringe player at Barca the fee is somewhat less than the one Barca paid for the 24 year old just 2 seasons ago.

Arsenal's Mattéo Guendouzi joins Marseille on loan with an obligation to buy. He fell out with Arteta so maybe it was for the best but I can't help feeling Arsenal have sold a good player there. Marseille continue to be the busiest of the Ligue 1 clubs, although PSG's purchase of Achraf Hakimi from Inter for £54m kind of puts that into context.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 07, 2021, 10:10:13 AM
Agree with Barrington and JRP - the expectation is that Tebas at La Liga will bend the rules with a CoVID allowance so that they can make losses, allowing them to keep Messi. The reality is that La Liga needs Lionel Messi for its broadcast deals.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 11, 2021, 01:02:37 AM
Quick round up of some deals that have caught my eye this week

We can see you sneaking out

Bruno Martin Indi joins AZ Alkmaar from Stoke who seem to be finally getting to grips with their squad having also rather strangely loaned out  Peter Etebo to Watford.

Smart Clubs at Work

Eintracht Frankfurt having sold Andre Silva to RB Leipzig for £20m they bring in Santos Borre from River Plate on a free.
Getafe have picked up 21 year old José Macías from Chivas in Mexico a  loan with an option to buy. He has scored for fun at every level he has played at will be one to watch in La Liga this season.
Stade Rennais have purchased Loic Badé for £15m from Lens which is pretty massive investment in a 21 year old Centre Back given the state of French football.

There's Always Turkey

Career on the slide? Worn out your welcome at home? At a loose end? Looking for that one last pay day? There's always Turkey.
Mario Balotelli moves to Turkish side Adana Demirspor (no me neither) where he will be joined by Britt Assombalonga (No we should have not been all over that)

Green Eyed Monster Corner

The monster has largely been sleeping this window but he opened half an eye when Vangelis Pavlidis moved from Willem II Tilburg to AZ for a little over £2m. Might not have wanted to swap Europa League football for the Championship and a big bag of money but a high pressing forward with a decent eye for goal.

Cocaine isn't the only way God tells people they have too much money....

PSG have picked up Sergio Ramos on a free but are paying him £200k a week for the next two years.

Championship corner

Birmingham have picked up Tahith Chong from Man U on loan somewhat surprising to see him in the Championship given he was loaned out to Werder Bremen last year although that deal was terminated in January. 

Things starting to pick up generally
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on July 11, 2021, 11:15:14 AM
Talking of young Manchester United midfielders who may be up for a loan I'll be interested to see their plans for Hannibal Mejbri.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 11, 2021, 11:20:30 AM
Hadn't noticed Chong to Blues. Sensible to send him to Bowyer who does seem to have a good track record with young attackers, but surprised to see him drop so low given how highly rated he was 18 months ago.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 11, 2021, 11:56:41 AM
Man United's next big thing discuss. Chong and Gomes seemed to be it for the last few years Gomes has gone to Lille and Chong now seems to not be it and the baton has passed to Hannibal Mejbri. We wish Hannibal well with his new found role which I suspect will see him go to Belgium this coming season because being Man United's next big thing means largely playing for other clubs.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 11, 2021, 12:03:04 PM
Wolves and Man City want Antonee Robinson as LB cover according to Nixon. From Wigan to Citeh in 2 years if it came off  ;D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BalisPen on July 14, 2021, 01:52:37 AM
Quick round up of some deals that have caught my eye this week

We can see you sneaking out

Bruno Martin Indi joins AZ Alkmaar from Stoke who seem to be finally getting to grips with their squad having also rather strangely loaned out  Peter Etebo to Watford.

Smart Clubs at Work

Eintracht Frankfurt having sold Andre Silva to RB Leipzig for £20m they bring in Santos Borre from River Plate on a free.
Getafe have picked up 21 year old José Macías from Chivas in Mexico a  loan with an option to buy. He has scored for fun at every level he has played at will be one to watch in La Liga this season.
Stade Rennais have purchased Loic Badé for £15m from Lens which is pretty massive investment in a 21 year old Centre Back given the state of French football.

There's Always Turkey

Career on the slide? Worn out your welcome at home? At a loose end? Looking for that one last pay day? There's always Turkey.
Mario Balotelli moves to Turkish side Adana Demirspor (no me neither) where he will be joined by Britt Assombalonga (No we should have not been all over that)

Green Eyed Monster Corner

The monster has largely been sleeping this window but he opened half an eye when Vangelis Pavlidis moved from Willem II Tilburg to AZ for a little over £2m. Might not have wanted to swap Europa League football for the Championship and a big bag of money but a high pressing forward with a decent eye for goal.

Cocaine isn't the only way God tells people they have too much money....

PSG have picked up Sergio Ramos on a free but are paying him £200k a week for the next two years.

Championship corner

Birmingham have picked up Tahith Chong from Man U on loan somewhat surprising to see him in the Championship given he was loaned out to Werder Bremen last year although that deal was terminated in January. 

Things starting to pick up generally

Thanks for writing these posts. I didn't know you did them and therefore I will look for them in the future as they are very informative as to what is happening in European club football.

Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 15, 2021, 12:51:30 PM
Marc Guehi on his way to Palace on a permanent deal. Sounds like Chelsea have structured the deal in the same way Liverpool did with Brewster and Real Madrid and Barca do regularly. Sell on fee and buy back clause.

A very well respected youth football observer rates Guehi as the best young defender in his age group since Joe Gomez, so one to watch.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 16, 2021, 08:39:12 AM
Interesting to see all of the Japanese players coming to Britain this last year or so.

Minamino obviously signed for Liverpool last year,  Spurs have signed Tomiyasu and now Celtic have signed Furuhashi. I think both the J League and the K League should be seriously looked at by clubs like ours, especially now some of the European leagues have been taken off the table by the new work permit rules. There are tons of good players who wouldn't cost the earth available.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hull Baggie on July 16, 2021, 09:03:15 AM
Interesting to see all of the Japanese players coming to Britain this last year or so.

Minamino obviously signed for Liverpool last year,  Spurs have signed Tomiyasu and now Celtic have signed Furuhashi. I think both the J League and the K League should be seriously looked at by clubs like ours, especially now some of the European leagues have been taken off the table by the new work permit rules. There are tons of good players who wouldn't cost the earth available.

They're definitely leagues we shouldn't rule out but traditionally Japanese players haven't faired that well in England, the real exceptions being Yoshida at Soton and Okazaki at Leicester...maybe Kagawa for Man Utd.
 Our very own Inamoto was hardly a success, although he was unlucky that Megson left soon after signing him.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 16, 2021, 02:29:29 PM
They're definitely leagues we shouldn't rule out but traditionally Japanese players haven't faired that well in England, the real exceptions being Yoshida at Soton and Okazaki at Leicester...maybe Kagawa for Man Utd.
 Our very own Inamoto was hardly a success, although he was unlucky that Megson left soon after signing him.

I remember being very excited by us signing Inamoto based on nothing more than his appearances in 2002 World Cup. I don't think he was ever really fit didn't he have quite a bad injury at Arsenal the year before he joined us?

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 16, 2021, 02:44:58 PM
They're definitely leagues we shouldn't rule out but traditionally Japanese players haven't faired that well in England, the real exceptions being Yoshida at Soton and Okazaki at Leicester...maybe Kagawa for Man Utd.
 Our very own Inamoto was hardly a success, although he was unlucky that Megson left soon after signing him.

From the K League we have had Park Ji Seung, Son Heung Min, Lee Young Pyo,  Lee Chung Yong sand Ki Sung Yeung.

Shunsuke Nakamura from Celtic was also easily good enough for a lower top flight team at one point.

It's worth considering as the talent is only increasing.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on July 16, 2021, 10:35:20 PM
Fee Agreed. Ben White from Brighton and Hove to Arsenal for £50 million.  :o

And the carousel begins to turn...
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 16, 2021, 10:47:09 PM
A few people are arguing this is a perfectly reasonable fee and that at 23, White has lots of potential to become one of England’s best centre backs, but a lot of it seems to be based on the fact he is good on the ball and not that much on his ability to defend.

I’m happy enough as it pushes another English defender towards a top side and in contention for England, but Brighton must be laughing to get £50m, while still having Dunk, Webster and Veltman in their ranks.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on July 16, 2021, 11:52:37 PM
Fee Agreed. Ben White from Brighton and Hove to Arsenal for £50 million.  :o

And the carousel begins to turn...
If he'd been our player, Arsenal would probably have got him for £15 mllion.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 17, 2021, 02:16:21 AM
I don't think White move is good for club nor player the only people happy with this will be BHA. Bottom line here is that Arsenal are paying too much for a player I don't think they know what to do with. Arsenal's ability to pay too much money for the player that isn't quiet right for them is remarkable.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: baggies_24 on July 17, 2021, 07:55:09 AM
I don't think White move is good for club nor player the only people happy with this will be BHA. Bottom line here is that Arsenal are paying too much for a player I don't think they know what to do with. Arsenal's ability to pay too much money for the player that isn't quiet right for them is remarkable.

Mmm I’m not sure it’s a steep price to pay yes, but I can see him fitting Arteta’s system well he’s a solid defender who’s brilliant with the ball at his feet. He does need someone next to him who will be willing to do the dirty side of defending I think Gabriel & White both have the potential to be a very good cb pairing for the next 10 years.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on July 17, 2021, 08:42:17 AM
White can also play DM with Xhaka rumoured to be leaving he could have been  bought  to fill that role.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on July 17, 2021, 08:49:52 AM
Looks a decent player and was talked up a lot in the England squad despite being the one who missed the 23 a lot. Hes done nothing to justify a £50m tag though.

For years Arsenal have needed to go and buy a proper solid centre half and time and time again they fail to do so.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 17, 2021, 08:55:52 AM
£50m - this from the club who pleaded poverty during the pandemic and accessed Government funding. Makes you feel sick.

White may be a good player but Brighton have pulled their pants down on this one.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 17, 2021, 08:56:50 AM
If Arsenal played with 3 at the back and the plan was slotting White into the right side of that 3 then I would be a lot more sanguine about the move. There are some widely acknowledged flaws on the defensive side of White's game and while there is no way you should be trying to hide a £50m defender at least it gives him the best platform to succeed in the short term and improve over time.

The fee is not White's fault and it is a little unfair to always start the discussion by referencing it but the fee says "best Centre Back that has moved this window" At this point he might not be 5th but he is comfortably the most expensive.   
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on July 17, 2021, 11:00:26 AM
£50m - this from the club who pleaded poverty during the pandemic and accessed Government funding. Makes you feel sick.............

Arsenal used to have a reputation for being classy operators. It appears the more money they have access to the less shame they feel.

I have slightly more time for Arsenal than Barcelona. Slightly.

Very tacky outfit these days as exampled by the attempted breakaway especially given their current standing in the Premier League.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 17, 2021, 01:55:29 PM
Thought I'd write something about a few of the transfers that have caught my eye. The White and Sancho deals haven't gone official yet so I will refrain from comment.

Spain Springs into Life

Atletico Madrid take over the mantle of Spains big spenders by taking Rodrigo De Paul from Udenise for a fee of over £34m. Good player and very much for the here and now but 4 year contract at the age of 27 not going to get better typical big Spanish Club signing e.g. not totally rubbish but Meh... and what are going to do in 3 year's time when he is post peak usable and earning a ton of money?

Matt Ryan leaves these shores to join Real Sociedad on a free.

Villareal continue to gear up for the Champions League campaign buying Centre Forward Boulaye Dia from Stade Reims £10m

The Italian Job

Depending on which reports you wish believe Anderson has left West Ham to join Lazio for nothing or a bit over £2m. Given that he cost West Ham £30m when they bought him from Lazio you have to think somebody in Rome has just got the gold back. Anderson comes with a slightly faded showing ambition badge from 2018 as fond memento of his time in London

Rui Patrício moves from Wolves to Roma where Mendes client Jose Mourinho is manager for £10m and is replaced by Jose Sa for £7m from Olympicas and I bet you can't guess who his agent is.

Inter spent some of the £50m they received from PSG on triggering the buy back clause for Zinho Vanheusden who was at Standard Liege an up and coming Centre Half who I'd expect to see in the Belgium squad at the World Cup.   

Meanwhile in France the Novae Riche get busy

PSG snap up Gianluigi Donnarumma on a free from Milan. 5 year deal north of €25m a year plus signing on bonus. Fee free but not free.

You really have to dislike the smart and rich in football. Stade Rennais are owned by François-Henri Pinault who might be France's richest man and therefore can carry on as per normal regardless of the carnage going on elsewhere and normal here is identifying and buying another exciting young talent Kamaldeen Sulemana from Nordsjaelland for £13.5m.

Calvin Stengs moves from AZ to Nice for £13m. It must be nice for Nice being owned by Jim Ratcliffe and able to buy talent like the rising Dutch winger when most clubs are selling the family silver to stay afloat.
 
Follow the Money

Talking of Nice they have sold central midfielder Pierre Lees Melou for £5m to Premier League newcomers Norwich. Now I think it's two years too late for him to step into the Premier League but Norwich have only given him a two year deal which are probably the last 2 peak years he has left but this is a very good signing. Certainly adds something to them.

Norwich have now pretty much spent the the Bunenda money. They have paid the fees for 5 recruits. The fees that have paid Burnley, Southampton and Nice has been spent and some more besides but the money that has been exported to Greece and Germany has not been spent least ways not on fees.

The Long and Winding Road

Luan Peres 27 year old Brazilian left footed Centre Back with a career path that looks more erratic than a drunken spider dipped in ink making there way across sheet of paper is on the move again. At 20 Laun is playing for tiny Portuguesa in his native Brazil, then between June 2016 and May 2017 he is traded 3 times Portuguesa to Santa Cruz then to Red Bull Brasil then to Ituano.

As far as I can make out he never plays for Ituano but is loaned out to Ponte Preta and the following season to Fluminense for two months and there catches the eye of Club Brugge who buy him for £400k in July 2018. Things don't work out for him in Belgium and 12 months on he is back in Brazil with Santos on loan and 18 months latter joins permanently for £2.25m and lives happily ever after until the transfer window opens and he now moves to Marseille for over £4m.

At 27 he has just over 160 senior appearances he might not be much of a footballer but boy can he pack a suitcase.

Championship Corner

QPR continue to assemble a decent squad without much fuss latest recruit to the West London outfit is promising young full back Sam McCullam on loan from Norwich 

Next week things will really start to ramp up.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gerry m on July 17, 2021, 02:48:40 PM
£50m - this from the club who pleaded poverty during the pandemic and accessed Government funding. Makes you feel sick.

White may be a good player but Brighton have pulled their pants down on this one.

Yes 100% correct. Brighton's owner must be laughing his socks off!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on July 17, 2021, 03:12:13 PM
There's got to be someone at the Treasury clever enough to raise a case for the return of funds from clubs who've subsequently gone on a spending splurge.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: WBArgo on July 17, 2021, 07:26:20 PM
Yes 100% correct. Brighton's owner must be laughing his socks off!

Yes, he's a very clever and astute businessman.

Legally Arsenal should have to pay that money back. Disgusting.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: zippyandbungle on July 18, 2021, 07:54:23 AM
There's got to be someone at the Treasury clever enough to raise a case for the return of funds from clubs who've subsequently gone on a spending splurge.
100%
Maybe fans should start to make some noise?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 18, 2021, 07:14:57 PM
Marc Guehi moves from Chelsea to Palace for £20m. Palace are having a great window so far, although £20m plus a sell on fee in Chelsea's favour feels slightly steep considering he hasn't made a first team appearance. I am really excited by him though, a genuine contender for England starting centre back at the World Cup or the next Euros.

That will however mean Chelsea have sold both of their promising academy centre halves this window in Guehi and Tomori. Surely they were worth more game time.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 19, 2021, 06:20:30 AM
The whole academy model at Chelsea is about developing players for profit i.e. developing them to the point where they can be sold. Occasionally players will almost by accident make it into the Chelsea first team e.g. Mount.

Historically they have made some blunders e.g. Lukaku and De Bruyne although they made significant profits on both players but both have subsequently gone on to be world class players and be traded for significantly bigger fees. However they have got smarter in at least securing a share of any future fees or in many instances like Marc Guehi having some sort of buy back option.

It would be interesting to do a where are they now feature on the Chelsea academy products across the last decade I do remember a few next big things that have bombed along the way.     
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on July 19, 2021, 08:00:38 AM
Marc Guehi moves from Chelsea to Palace for £20m. Palace are having a great window so far, although £20m plus a sell on fee in Chelsea's favour feels slightly steep considering he hasn't made a first team appearance. I am really excited by him though, a genuine contender for England starting centre back at the World Cup or the next Euros.

That will however mean Chelsea have sold both of their promising academy centre halves this window in Guehi and Tomori. Surely they were worth more game time.

I thought Olise for £8m was a great signing by palace. I think he also had time at Chelsea.

However as much as they’ve exciting young players, they still have some aging ones and some distinctly average. If the kids don’t hit the ground running they could get dragged into the battle although I don’t think they’ll drop.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 19, 2021, 12:52:54 PM
Middlesborough to sign Martin Payero after passing his medical. £6m quid where they got that money from? Anyone know if he's any good?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 19, 2021, 01:08:45 PM
Loosely an Argentina international (well, in their mixed Olympic team which will in effect be an U23 side). Not a bad gamble but loads of Argentines have come over and done little.

Gibson may have put more money in, they are looking at a few more South Americans, but their first 4 signings have all been championship journeymen.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 19, 2021, 01:11:39 PM
Loosely an Argentina international (well, in their mixed Olympic team which will in effect be an U23 side). Not a bad gamble but loads of Argentines have come over and done little.

Gibson may have put more money in, they are looking at a few more South Americans, but their first 4 signings have all been championship journeymen.

Thanks Baggies!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 19, 2021, 09:12:04 PM
The whole academy model at Chelsea is about developing players for profit i.e. developing them to the point where they can be sold. Occasionally players will almost by accident make it into the Chelsea first team e.g. Mount.

Historically they have made some blunders e.g. Lukaku and De Bruyne although they made significant profits on both players but both have subsequently gone on to be world class players and be traded for significantly bigger fees. However they have got smarter in at least securing a share of any future fees or in many instances like Marc Guehi having some sort of buy back option.

It would be interesting to do a where are they now feature on the Chelsea academy products across the last decade I do remember a few next big things that have bombed along the way.   

While they will still make a fair whack, it does seem players are wising up to it.

3 of their top academy kids have refused to sign contracts this summer. The very highly rated Lewis Bate is bring tracked by Leeds (who have form for stockpiling youngsters, not quite sure what the end game is there). Tino Livramento who seems to have been Chelsea academy's golden boy for a while looks likely to follow Tariq Lamptey to Brighton (I really miss Dan Ashworth), while Myles Peart-Harris is also expected to move to another prem side this summer.

More and more youngsters are getting wise to the fact that there is little point hanging around big clubs academies aged 18/19 when you could earn a bumper 5 year 40 grand a week contract at a club that will give you a better development path.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 20, 2021, 11:58:40 AM
Following on from the above, Myles Peart-Harris is going to Brentford. Funny how it's always the best run clubs who get these deals.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 24, 2021, 11:50:33 AM
A few observations on this week's transfers.

The Whale is in the House

Sancho from Dortmund to United has landed at last for £76m the biggest single fee paid for 3 windows. There is nothing not to like about the player really but I still look at United and think "badly constructed fantasy team" but unlike a fantasy team this thing has to cross the line and play together. As ever how good this is depends a lot on what else they do. Dortmund have a big bag of money to spend. Wurst & Beer or players?

Life Comes at you quickly

Damari Gray has been an promising youngster for as long as I can remember now I find he is 25 that means he's all grown up and a proper footballer. Before long he'll be 30 and in his post peak years like Andros Townesend without ever fulfilling the promise of his earlier years. Everton signed both in the same week and I am left wondering if Everton's recruitment is done by a random number generator or a human being.

It doesn't seem all that long ago I was watching Dario Simic play for Inter and Croatia. I woke up to the news that his son Roko has been snapped up by RB Salzburg they have loaned him out to second division Liefiering although only 17 there is a little bit of a buzz around Roko who is a Centre Forward. 

The lunatic fringe

Liverpool's fringe is on the move like a horde of hungry locusts devouring the bankrolls of the gullible and unwary. They shipped out two fringe players this week Marko Grujic to Porto on loan with an option to buy for £10m not a terrible deal for Porto but the £6m for Taiwo Awoniyi to go to Union Berlin looks less good. To be fair Union had him last season so they know what they are getting but this does represent the biggest fee by some distance that the Berlin club has ever spent on a player I hope it goes well from them.


I don't want to go to Chelsea (or rather stay there)

Marc Gueh moves to Crystal Palace for £21m this is impressive stuff from a Palace perspective getting one of the best up and coming Centre Backs signed up to 5 year contract although Chelsea retain a financial interest through sell on and matching clauses in the deal.

Another deal that will probably have slipped under most people's radar is 18 year old Lewis Bate who chose not to renew his contract at Chelsea and has joined Leeds for £1.5m.

Also as mentioned by Baggies earlier Myles Peart-Harris has also moved across London to Brentford on a free (fee to be set by tribunal).

Maybe there is a pattern emerging here?

My Perfect Cousin

Brentford are irritating they are so good at this recruitment malarkey. Now I don't know whether their latest signings will work but they are exactly the type of deal that they do and have generally worked for them in the past.  Two deals this week Centre Back Kristoffer Ajer in from Celtic for £14m and Central Midfielder Frank Onyeka for £9m from FC Midtjylland both young with significant upside potential will work for them regardless of which division they find themselves at the end of the season.

We can see you sneaking out

Even generally smart clubs drop the odd clanger Alireza Jahanbakhsh departure from Brighton to Feyenoord for just £1m is one such occasion. The South Coast club spent £17m on him only 3 years ago and things never quiet worked out for him.

Christian Atsu departes for Saudi Arabia an 8 year career with first Chelsea and then Newcastle mainly in 20 minute cameo's.

Florian Lejeune moves from Newcastle to Alves after an injury hit 4 years. Eibar had managed to sprinkle some magic pixie dust on him back in 2017 to turn him from a £1.2m to the £9m player inside 12 months. Never happened wasn't great and plagued by injury. 

Balancing out the Transfer Universe

There is an iron law that every time one of the rich and dumb clubs do something that is on the face of it really smart then they have to do something equally dumb to restore the balance. Arsenal have signed Albert Sambi Lokonga young deep sitting playmaker from Anderlect for not much money. Their next move in the market is going to be an absolute doozy (Ramsdale & White a combined £80m would do it)

Championship Corner

Tumbleweed blowing through here 3  players joined Championship clubs this week, none of any significance.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 24, 2021, 05:13:55 PM
Surprised to see Andre Ayew also move to Al Sadd in Qatar.

On Bate, from everything I'm reading he might just be the most important teenager from a national team perspective we have. A deep lying play maker who can operate as a defensive midfielder as well, a player rarely produced by English football but who all good nationals teams need.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: WBArgo on July 24, 2021, 05:43:55 PM
Demari Gray for £1.7 million is great business.

They could sell him tomorrow for triple that with ease.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on July 24, 2021, 06:02:44 PM
Demari Gray for £1.7 million is great business.

They could sell him tomorrow for triple that with ease.

Agreed! I imagine Grays made a lot of money too but from a career perspective I think it’s a poor move.  I suspect it’s somewhere else he won’t play.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 24, 2021, 09:18:56 PM
Not sure that we can still buy Dimari Gray on his upside potential the lack of consistent performance is a concern. The fact that things blew up for him in Germany and Bayer Leverkusen didn't even try to charge any sort of premium on his swift return to England speaks volumes.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 25, 2021, 10:09:30 AM
Have Everton gone back in a time warp? Begovic, Gray, Townsend

Anyone would think they’re trying to stay in the division.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 25, 2021, 11:17:37 AM
I'll caveat this by saying it's the Sun and they aren't much more reliable than a clockbait website, but the rumour is that Blackburn have turned down a £15m bid from Watford for Adam Armstrong. They apparently want £25m. Absolute madness for a typical Chamoionship goalscorer. If he goes for £25m, we really should be getting £30m for Pereira. I just don't get this market.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 25, 2021, 02:34:53 PM
Armstrong it would seem only has one year left on his contract if Watford have offered £15m Blackburn might be well advised to take it. I can't see Watford paying £25m or anything close to it, I'd doubt they will pay £25m for a player this window and if they do it won't be for Armstrong.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 25, 2021, 02:41:49 PM
Blackburn are being dafties regarding the valuation because they owe Newcastle 40% of any fee due to the sell-on clause inserted when they bought him but they have to be careful not to cut their noses off to spite their face.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 25, 2021, 02:59:53 PM
Blackburn are being dafties regarding the valuation because they owe Newcastle 40% of any fee due to the sell-on clause inserted when they bought him but they have to be careful not to cut their noses off to spite their face.

I kind of understand if they are handing over 40% of the fee then they only get £9m . It's almost worth taking a swing at promotion with one last good year from Armstrong and hoping of the best.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 25, 2021, 03:03:11 PM
I kind of understand if they are handing over 40% of the fee then they only get £9m . It's almost worth taking a swing at promotion with one last good year from Armstrong and hoping of the best.

I agree Stan. I think they have to decide now do they want a decent amount of money to re-invest in the squad or go balls out for it. I think they are a little bit short of promotion personally but stranger things have happened!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 25, 2021, 03:52:01 PM
I agree Stan. I think they have to decide now do they want a decent amount of money to re-invest in the squad or go balls out for it. I think they are a little bit short of promotion personally but stranger things have happened!

They along with about half a dozen teams if they have a bit of good fortune might snag a play-off spot and after that it is 3 cup games which compared to a 46 game season is a bit of a coin flip. 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 31, 2021, 09:04:29 AM
Things are starting to hot up not so quick summary of the deals that went down last week

Championship Corner

Last week there were three deals in a week. This week Fulham signed two players in a day. Harry Wilson £12m for the Liverpool winger not sure I like the deal. I think it is quite likely to be the most any team spends on a single player in the Championship. The other player being Goalkeeper Paulo Gazzaniga on a free from Spurs still only 29 I think he has spent too long as an understudy at Spurs and should have moved for 1st team football sooner but should be a good signing for Fulham.

QPR picked up ex Albion loanee Stefan Johansen from Fulham past his best but does have experience at Championship level, maybe another reasonably astute signing for the R's.

Barnsley trust the process but selling Connor Chaplin to Ipswich for just £750k seems a strange decision. However they have signed Josh Benson from Burnley and forward Obbi Oulare from Standard Liege.

Leif Davis who is a 21 year old Left Back joined Bournemouth from Leeds
 
Spurs Get Busy

The Spurs squad that got through to the Champions League final just 2 years ago continues to be reshaped 12 players from that squad including the entire back 4 have left the club and more might leave this window.

Player swaps are rare things but Spurs have traded a slightly careworn Erik Lamella for a nice shiney Bryan Gill they have also paid Sevilla £22m for the left winger who is one of La Liga's rising stars.

Toby Alderweireld has moved on for £13m to Al-Duhail who play in the footballing hotbed of Qatar.

Ex Villa Goalkeeper Pierluigi Gollini joins Spurs on loan at the age of 26 the player completes his fifth move between Italy and England.   

Man United do something odd

Rarer than player swaps Man United spend a bunch of money (£60m) on a player in a position they need to strengthen.  Raphaël Varane joins from Real Madrid not absolute peak Varne but still an upgrade on Lindelöf.  Olly like Frank last year will no doubt be finding out  that all the new expensive players come with raised expectations.

Palace Rebuild continues

Joachim Andersen joins from Lyon for £15m another astute signing following an impressive loan spell at Fulham and Euro's campaign this might be the best pound for pound signing of the window.

Palace also snapped up Connor Gallagher on loan from Chelsea. I think that this is about Connor’s level. He will make a major contribution to Palace but will not make it at Chelsea unfortunately he has a long contract there so this is unlikely to be his forever home.

Arsenal restore the balance

Ben White for £50m is bad and further evidence that there isn’t a linear relationship between player’s transfer fees. White does not have 3 times the ability of Andersen. On the evidence of last season there is a strong argument that Andersen is the better defender, less error prone and much better in the air. White might be better on the ball although this might be seen as a secondary consideration with a Centre Back. The only explanation is that White is young and English. Maybe a £25m defender with a £25m passport. 

Meanwhile in Germany

Dortmund spent £27m of the money they got from United for Sancho on buying former Arsenal youngster Donyell Malen from PSV. Malen has been playing through the middle but could equally play anywhere across a front three, the thought of him and Haaland being unleashed on Bundesliga defences is scary.

Another young player lost at a big English club finding a move to somewhere that is hopefully better for his development is Lukas Nmecha moving to Wolfsburg from Man City where he joins younger brother Felix who also left Man City this summer. 

Something is cooking down on the Cote d'Azur

Mario Lemina joins Nice from Southampton for £5m not the English Club's best work in the transfer market but at least he's off the books. Not content with that just a day or so later they picked up another Defensive Midfielder Pablo Rosario from PSV. They have also picked up Justin Klievart from Roma on loan. 

Coming soon.......

The Grealish madness and everything that flows from it.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 31, 2021, 09:22:46 AM
Rumours also going around that Fulham are close to completing the signing of Brazil striker Rodrigo Muniz from Flamengo. Neil Warnock appears to have confirmed that his Boro side have missed out to Fulham.

Hard to know the details at the moment, some suggestions are £8m quid but I find that unlikely as Boro wouldn't have been in for him with those numbers.

Little information available, a few translated twitter posts from Brazil suggests he was third choice behind Barbosa (Gabigol) and somebody I've not heard of. He was however showing promise in the games he played and is only 20.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on July 31, 2021, 12:12:57 PM
Rumours also going around that Fulham are close to completing the signing of Brazil striker Rodrigo Muniz from Flamengo. Neil Warnock appears to have confirmed that his Boro side have missed out to Fulham.

Hard to know the details at the moment, some suggestions are £8m quid but I find that unlikely as Boro wouldn't have been in for him with those numbers.

Little information available, a few translated twitter posts from Brazil suggests he was third choice behind Barbosa (Gabigol) and somebody I've not heard of. He was however showing promise in the games he played and is only 20.

Boro have been rumoured for a while to be close to another South American, Martin Payero for £6m who was Part of the Argentina Olympic Squad.  Very little about him online but he’s young and a few clips have people excited.

Rumoured fee of £6m so Boro have found some money from somewhere! Maybe Gibson sees this as a year to try and take advantage. They could be one of the first clubs to be trying to take advantage of better permit rules for South American’s too.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 31, 2021, 09:57:48 PM
With Villa about to have £100m burning a hole in their bank account, in addition to the intriguing Leon Bailey signing, it now looks like they are going to bid for Todd Cantwell as Grealish's replacement. I don't really get that signing, they have signed Buendia already, do they really just want to recreate a midfield that finished bottom of the Premier league 2 years ago?

Cantwell is a decent player but for the price Norwich would ask for, surely it wouldn't make financial sense for Villla? Don't be shocked if they come in for Pereira if that doesn't work out.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 01, 2021, 12:16:25 AM
The fee that Norwich are talking about for Cantwell is £40m which pretty much is a not for sale price but if Villa completely lose their minds Norwich will take their money.

I say that as someone who quite likes Cantwell and as part of a 3 or 4 player package he might more than compensate for the loss of Grealish. However spending £40m on the Cantwell probably means they won't get the quality elsewhere from the windfall.

Villa have been heavily linked with Leon Bailey who is left footed and can play either wing or inverted wide forward for £30m.

I can see something quite good taking shape but at £40m I think I'd be looking at alternatives to Cantwell.

 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Mister AT on August 02, 2021, 01:04:43 AM
What’s everyone’s thoughts on the Grealish situation.

Does he go?

Seen hundreds of posts on Twitter second guessing what he will do, will he go, will he stay and build with villa.

He apparently trained today which many city fans assumed he would be in Manchester for a medical.

The one good thing from this all is, I’ve seen some villa fans already turn on him, calling him a money grabber, diver, another delph etc etc. Saw one fan call him a coward because he’s taking the ‘easy’ option in winning trophies with city which will be ‘pointless’ as opposed to staying at villa and building a legacy  ;D ;D

I wouldn’t be suprised if villa came knocking for Pereira if Grealish does leave. At prices of £40million for Cantwell, MP is much better value for money.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on August 02, 2021, 01:38:11 AM
What’s everyone’s thoughts on the Grealish situation.......Seen hundreds of posts on Twitter second guessing what he will do,.....The one good thing from this all is, I’ve seen some villa fans already turn on him, calling him a money grabber, diver, another delph etc etc. Saw one fan call him a coward because he’s taking the ‘easy’ option in winning trophies with city which will be ‘pointless’ as opposed to staying at villa and building a legacy  ;D ;D......

My thoughts centre around the utter hilarity of the Viler meltdown. Read a Twitter post from a City supporter earlier where the bloke sympathises with Blues and Albion supporters having to deal with Vilers all the time. He ended his tweet with the following observation of Vilers. 'These people are not normal'.....

https://mobile.twitter.com/Kushagra9320/status/1420767974894411778

....... they've been ripping into the W(itton) anchors for days  ;D .
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 02, 2021, 09:09:58 AM
At £100m villa would be stupid not to accept that.

The big issue is how they cope without him because their record without Grealish is quite frankly woeful.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: seteefeet on August 02, 2021, 09:28:22 AM
Hope he goes because it weakens them dramatically. They can then have Pereira in the hope that he has an absolute stinker and then downs tools following their relegation.

What I would bet though is, if Grealish goes to Man City, he will automatically play more for England, even if he gets less minutes, and has less impact, for City.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Mister AT on August 02, 2021, 09:57:21 AM
Hope he goes because it weakens them dramatically. They can then have Pereira in the hope that he has an absolute stinker and then downs tools following their relegation.

What I would bet though is, if Grealish goes to Man City, he will automatically play more for England, even if he gets less minutes, and has less impact, for City.

Would be interesting to see how Pep plays Grealish, if he plays him out wide or keeps Foden there. If he improves him then that benefits England.

I have a sneaky feeling he might stay at villa though. I’ve seen villa fans putting money on them being top of the league at Christmas as it’s 80/1 and it’s ‘easy’ money.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 02, 2021, 10:00:06 AM
I actually think it’s the right move for Villa and and the poor result for Villa in the long run would be him deciding to stay and getting £250k a week.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on August 02, 2021, 10:49:39 AM
That's an awful lot of money for someone when City are being linked with Haaland and Kane.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on August 02, 2021, 10:40:50 PM
Joe Hart looks like he's on his way from Spurs to Celtic (according to Fabrizio Romano). Might Tottenham be looking for another keeper? 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: WBArgo on August 02, 2021, 10:44:22 PM
Joe Hart looks like he's on his way from Spurs to Celtic (according to Fabrizio Romano). Might Tottenham be looking for another keeper?

I assume it will be another free/cheap keeper, similar to their equivalent of our version of Button rather than spending big on Johnstone. No one is threatening Cortois place anytime soon.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 02, 2021, 10:48:31 PM
I assume it will be another free/cheap keeper, similar to their equivalent of our version of Button rather than spending big on Johnstone. No one is threatening Cortois place anytime soon.

Do you mean Lloris?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 02, 2021, 11:31:11 PM
Joe Hart looks like he's on his way from Spurs to Celtic (according to Fabrizio Romano). Might Tottenham be looking for another keeper?

Will be a good signing for them as their current incumbents are some of the worst goalkeepers I have seen.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 02, 2021, 11:39:59 PM
Will be a good signing for them as their current incumbents are some of the worst goalkeepers I have seen.

I was listening to five live on the way back from going out tonight and it was the Scottish football show. The pundits up were were claiming that Celtic might have the worst goalkeepers in the SPL now. They went as far as name checking around 7 other SPL keepers at different clubs as proof. Really surprised me given the lack of money up there. What’s gone wrong at Celtic?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hull Baggie on August 03, 2021, 07:27:06 AM
I was listening to five live on the way back from going out tonight and it was the Scottish football show. The pundits up were were claiming that Celtic might have the worst goalkeepers in the SPL now. They went as far as name checking around 7 other SPL keepers at different clubs as proof. Really surprised me given the lack of money up there. What’s gone wrong at Celtic?

poor management and crucially a resurgent Rangers.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 03, 2021, 09:32:10 AM
I was listening to five live on the way back from going out tonight and it was the Scottish football show. The pundits up were were claiming that Celtic might have the worst goalkeepers in the SPL now. They went as far as name checking around 7 other SPL keepers at different clubs as proof. Really surprised me given the lack of money up there. What’s gone wrong at Celtic?

They have been idle and take their eye off the ball in their hope to be ‘a little bit better than Rangers’. I honestly believe they did not expect to see such a resurgence from Rangers.

 Losing Rodgers was a massive blow as they were never going to attract better and the hope was Lennon could take them to 10 in a row. It was such a cheap, naive appointment. Their successive failures to make the champions league has hamstrung them. The ‘stars’ have left and been replaced with expensive rubbish. Edouard wants away and only has 12 months left on his current deal.

The scale of their rebuild is massive largely lead off the back of poor recruitment. Rangers on the other hand have recruited smartly (£50k Glen Kamara!!), have an astute gaffer and a variety of options within the team.

The cost structure has always depended on the champions league - they are largely where Rangers were 10 years ago. The pendulum of Scottish football has swung and it will be some tide to turn if Rangers make it into the CL.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on August 03, 2021, 10:23:53 AM
Said at the time that Celtic made a mistake appointing Nick Hammond. Sloppy player recruitment and a lazy managerial appointment. I can only assume Pardew didn't fancy hopping over the wall meaning Hammond plumped for the re appointment of Lennon given his previous.

I never understood the rationale when we appointed Hammond much less Celtic. They're still picking up the pieces following his departure. Funnily enough Arsenal were reported to have an interest in him whilst at Reading. Must have one hell of an interview/presentation technique..... and agent.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 05, 2021, 02:21:19 PM
SSn saying Wolves and Watford in for Yokuslu
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 07, 2021, 05:23:05 PM
Round up of this weeks deals (not much happened  8))

Championship Corner

Aaron Leya Iseka joins Barnsley from Toulouse.

Derby signed some players, namely Richard Spearman and Ryan Allsop both free agents. Other had been lined up but I think refused to sign contracts without wages in them

Central Midfielder  Martín Payero sneaked into Middlesbrough while attention was elsewhere the 22 year old Argentinian  joins for the not insignificant fee of £6m which is comfortably the second biggest paid by a Championship Club this window.

Sam Surridge moves to Stoke from Bournemouth for £2.3m as another odd purchase from an earlier window Lee Gregory departs. Stoke seem to be rationalising their squad.

Jamie Patterson leaves Bristol to join Swansea who are in need of reinforcement.

The total spent on fees across the is £27m which has been covered  by £43m of sales.

Dear Prudence


There is no sign of Prudence coming out to play among the Premier League Elite

Man City splurge £100m on Grealish which I hate from a City perspective under no circumstances can Grealish be considered the missing piece of the puzzle if anything he just makes the puzzle more complicated and difficult to solve. It would also appear they are making Jack Grealish the highest paid footballer in England.  But he’s only leaving to win trophies (oh yeah)

The money fills Villa’s coffers and immediately starts to leak, spending £60m on 29 year old injury prone Danny Ings from Southampton and wide striker Leon Bailey from Bayer  Leverkusen. Ings is a mistake but Bailey is astute but maybe a little bit expensive and it will be interesting to see what Leverkusen do with the money. I would trust them to reinvest wisely in the ….

The next big things 

On the same day as Villa were pushing their trolley around John Lewis’s Monaco bought in young Dutch Centre Forward Myron Boadu for £15m from AZ Alkmaar.  If he makes the step up expect this kid to be the next £40m plus purchase for one of the Super League Elite.

Centre Back Matteo Lovato joined Atalanta from Hellas Verona for £7m which has allowed them to sell Cristian Romero for a reported £40m plus having been bought for £16m from Juve. Just for clarification here Atalanta are the team in the Champions League not Spurs and Juve only just scrapped in by the skin of their teeth.

Juve having let Romero go only for him to develop rapidly at Atalanta they do the same thing with another promising Centre Back Merih Demiral.

One that got away

Roman Yaremchuk has joined Benfica from Gent for “just” £15m and while not the most high profile signing there are a few Premier League clubs that could have done a lot worse than picking up the Ukranian Centre Forward.

Green Eyed Monster

Flickered briefly into life with the arrival of Luis Abram at Grenada the Peruvian Centre Back was available on a free from Sarsfield left footed and  possibly one of the South American signings that Championship clubs could pick up to make up for the loss of access to European talent.

Lyon selling the family silver

Another promising youngster departs although one generally still on the fringe as Jean Lucas an up and coming Centre Midfielder departs for Monaco 

Coming Soon

The madness that is Messi, Kane and Lukkau.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: socalbaggie on August 08, 2021, 01:10:28 PM
Messi to Paris Saint-Germain per ESPN. com

A tearful Lionel Messi has said his next move is not confirmed at an emotional farewell news conference on Sunday, but ESPN sources say a deal with Paris Saint-Germain has already been agreed.

Messi, who has been a free agent since his contract expired at Camp Nou on June 30, had maintained his silence since Barca announced on Thursday that he will not sign new terms because of financial problems.


- Marcotti: What's next for Lionel Messi?
- PSG ready to offer Messi three-year deal - sources
- Laporta on Messi exit: No one bigger than Barca

The Argentina forward said he had received several calls from clubs since the news broke, confirming PSG's interest, and multiple sources have told ESPN that he has already agreed to sign for the Ligue 1 side.

Sources added that Messi is expected to travel to Paris on Sunday before completing a medical in the coming days and signing a two-year deal with the option for a third season. He could be presented at an event at the Eiffel Tower in the coming days.

"[PSG] is one possibility," Messi said. "There's nothing closed at the moment but we're talking about a lot of things. After Barca's statement, a lot of clubs showed an interest. There's nothing final but, of course, there are talks."

Asked about the prospect of joining a rival, he added: "There is no doubt that I will go to a team that will compete with Barca. I didn't want to leave, but I have to. And I want to keep winning. That's my mentality. I want to win."


Lionel Messi faces the media during a news conference at Nou Camp. Eric Alonso/Getty Images
Messi said a photograph of him with several PSG players in Ibiza last week, including Neymar and Angel Di Maria, was just a coincidence, although he said they did joke about him moving to Paris.

Instead, in an event at the auditorium to the side of Camp Nou attended by the board, the first-team squad and his family, Messi insisted he had done everything possible to stay at Barca.

"I am really sad because I didn't want to leave because this is the club I love," he said. "I didn't expect this. I have never lied; I have always been honest and upfront. Last year I wanted to leave; this year I didn't. That's why I am so sad.

"As the president [Joan Laporta] has explained, the club has debt [problems]. It's not possible. Why keep drawing it out if it's nearly impossible? The talks stopped as Barca did not want to go on, they knew LaLiga would not let it happen, it was impossible.

"I did everything I could to stay and it wasn't possible. I offered to reduce my salary by 50% and Barca didn't ask for anything else. They didn't ask for another 30% , that's a lie."


Lionel Messi's trophy haul won during his time as a Barcelona player are displayed during a news conference at the Camp Nou. PAU BARRENA/AFP via Getty Images
Messi, 34, had agreed a new five-year contract with Barca but that would have meant the club's wage bill stood at 110% of their revenue. Their spending cap with LaLiga has dropped from over €600 million in 2019-20 to an expected €200m for the coming season, making it impossible to register Messi's new deal, even with a big pay cut. His previous terms included a base salary of around €70m gross without bonuses.

"Without a doubt, this is the most difficult time of my career," Messi continued. "I have had a lot of tough moments, but the other day, [learning I was] not going back to training, not going to be on the pitch again, that this is the end with this club, yes, it's one of the most difficult moments for me.

"This year is different from last year [when I wanted to leave]. My family and I were convinced we were going to stay, that's what we wanted more than anything. We are at home here. Now I have to say goodbye to all of this.


"I have been here since I was 13. After 21 years, I am leaving with my wife, with my three little Catalan-Argentine kids. I can't say that we won't come back in some way because this is our home and I promised my children we would."

Messi lamented that he had been unable to say goodbye on the pitch with the fans chanting his name, bemoaning that his last 18 months at the club have been played in empty stadiums due to the pandemic.

With 672 goals in 778 games for Barca, Messi leaves as both the club's record appearance maker and top goalscorer. However, he says no one person comes before the club and assured supporters there is a squad built for success even without him.

"Barca are one of the best teams in the world, they have an amazing side," he said. "More players will come, not just now but in the future. Players come and go. As Laporta said, no one person comes before the club. At first, it will be weird, but people will get used to it."
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 08, 2021, 01:14:55 PM
Shame he’s ended up at PSG as it would have been nice to see him in England.

Hopefully it brings an end to such a boring saga.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: CL3MO on August 08, 2021, 01:40:44 PM
SSn saying Wolves and Watford in for Yokuslu

Have a mate who has a bit of inside info on Wolves and he seems to think Yokuslu to them is almost a done thing. Not sure he'll fit well in their new system or style of play, mind.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 08, 2021, 02:01:15 PM
So the Messi saga comes to a predictably messy end.

The final heart rending goodbyes the tears the utter and total tosh. Sorry I am not captivated by it the tears are largely crocodilian in nature.

What has happened is the mug in the game (Barca) have just gone broke trying to keep Messi at the club not only through his obscene contracts but also the demand that the club furnishes him with the players that match his ambition.

No President could take a stand because there was no way they would be President for long once they were on the wrong side of Messi. He didn't need to say anything a hint here or there to a friendly journalist that would be quickly denied once Messi had got his way was all that was needed. 

The extent of how broke Barca are only seems to have just dawned on the fawning media. Where fawning over Messi (yes brilliant footballer I know) ends and fawning over Barca begins is at times difficult to tell. However the fans with typewriters are struggling with this.

At last there is an acknowledgement that Barca are properly broke, Messi could have played for free and Barca would still be over the salary cap. Yet until today I have read theories that this is a ploy to get La Liga to climb down. The circle was never going to be squared and anybody who has written anything else since June has done me a huge favour as I can now safely ignore their writing. 

And the final lie "[PSG] is one possibility," Messi said. "There's nothing closed at the moment but we're talking about a lot of things. After Barca's statement, a lot of clubs showed an interest. There's nothing final but, of course, there are talks."

Unfortunately PSG sources were at the same time briefing the media that the deal was done. Another whopper there Mr Messi we will add that to the lies we told the Spanish tax authorities shall we.

The mug in game has gone broke you knew they were the mug and that is fine there is no rule that says you should not take their money but the tears are just a little bit hypocritical spare me that particularly when the next mug in the game is about pull up a seat. 

Messi is the greatest footballer I have ever seen on a pitch I have no problem acknowledging it but I have definitely stubbed my toe on the pedestal that he has been placed on. 
 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 08, 2021, 02:36:38 PM
Glad somebody has said it, the amount of **** on social media today from journalists talking about how poor Leo was a victim in all of this made me queasy. He is one of the highest paid players in the history of the game. Give over with the loyalty spiel.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gerry m on August 08, 2021, 02:55:30 PM
Glad somebody has said it, the amount of **** on social media today from journalists talking about how poor Leo was a victim in all of this made me queasy. He is one of the highest paid players in the history of the game. Give over with the loyalty spiel.

I would love to have 1% of his money in my bank account!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on August 09, 2021, 08:01:57 AM
Very surprised Arsenal have let Willock go to newcastle for 20 mill. He was outstanding last season on tyneside, thats a really good bit of business for the toon!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BalisPen on August 09, 2021, 01:24:29 PM
Very surprised Arsenal have let Willock go to newcastle for 20 mill. He was outstanding last season on tyneside, thats a really good bit of business for the toon!

That's their Martinez cheap sale mistake, now let's hope they make their stupid error overpriced buy on Johnston
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: WBArgo on August 09, 2021, 01:41:15 PM
Very surprised Arsenal have let Willock go to newcastle for 20 mill. He was outstanding last season on tyneside, thats a really good bit of business for the toon!

Agree, it's not like the Arsenal team is brilliant these days either. I guess that's why they are doing poorly of late.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 10, 2021, 02:38:47 PM
Messi lands at PSG. This is a "free transfer" 

Two year contract worth as follows

€25m signing on fee
Wages €55m per year

Total cost €135m

That should help him get over the disappointment of leaving Barca.

And I am really through with the media fanboys that continue to spin this like it is some terrible injustice. 









Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on August 10, 2021, 02:54:43 PM
Messi lands at PSG. This is a "free transfer" 

Two year contract worth as follows

€25m signing on fee
Wages €55m per year

Total cost €135m

That should help him get over the disappointment of leaving Barca.

And I am really through with the media fanboys that continue to spin this like it is some terrible injustice.

So while he was sobbing in Barca, he had a deal already drawn up.  So freaking predictable.  Zero class.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: phbaggies on August 10, 2021, 03:08:31 PM
Messi lands at PSG. This is a "free transfer" 

Two year contract worth as follows

€25m signing on fee
Wages €55m per year

Total cost €135m

That should help him get over the disappointment of leaving Barca.

And I am really through with the media fanboys that continue to spin this like it is some terrible injustice.
Not sticking up for the bloke or anything BUT the maximum pay cut he was allowed to take was 50% which he took, it was La Liga who blocked any further decrease. The real heads gone in all of this is Barca paying unsustainable wages, not the bloke receiving them, course Messi will say yes to more money!

PSG will gain that £135m back in no time, so this really is a no-brainer to them!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on August 10, 2021, 03:14:13 PM
Not sticking up for the bloke or anything BUT the maximum pay cut he was allowed to take was 50% which he took, it was La Liga who blocked any further decrease. The real heads gone in all of this is Barca paying unsustainable wages, not the bloke receiving them, course Messi will say yes to more money!

PSG will gain that £135m back in no time, so this really is a no-brainer to them!

How? thats a lot of shirts! for simplicities sake @ £67.50 / shirt = 2,000,000 shirts over 2 years will PSG sell an extra million shirts a year at full whack?
What other revenue streams will the club have which Messi wont have control over?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 10, 2021, 03:23:45 PM
Rumoured Messi alone sells about 1m shirts a year out of the 2m Barca sell worldwide but generally accepted clubs only make 15% off a shirt on average so 15% of £70, current PSG shirt price, is £10.50.  £10.50x1m is £10.5m.  His shirt sales over 2 years then will cover his singing on fee near enough but PSG will still have to find the other £46m each season or whatever it converts too.

Insane figures.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: phbaggies on August 10, 2021, 03:35:20 PM
Rumoured Messi alone sells about 1m shirts a year out of the 2m Barca sell worldwide but generally accepted clubs only make 15% off a shirt on average so 15% of £70, current PSG shirt price, is £10.50.  £10.50x1m is £10.5m.  His shirt sales over 2 years then will cover his singing on fee near enough but PSG will still have to find the other £46m each season or whatever it converts too.

Insane figures.
No transfer fee involved though, extra sponsorships for club, extra fanbase worldwide, sell out every week, extra merchandise, selling fringe players to off set too, I reckon Neymar has cost them hell of a lot more than Messi has/ will. This is a win/ win for both parties IMO
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 10, 2021, 03:37:21 PM
No transfer fee involved though, extra sponsorships for club, extra fanbase worldwide, sell out every week, extra merchandise, selling fringe players to off set too, I reckon Neymar has cost them hell of a lot more than Messi has/ will. This is a win/ win for both parties IMO

Oh definitely increases their revenue but won't cover his wages. I'm not fussed personally, football is insane but the owners are willing to do it so i wish them good luck.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: phbaggies on August 10, 2021, 03:40:32 PM
Oh definitely increases their revenue but won't cover his wages. I'm not fussed personally, football is insane but the owners are willing to do it so i wish them good luck.
Wasted in that league tbf, he can only influence the Champions League, yes PSG managed to cock up a one horse race last year but the league is usually a done deal before its kicked off there, he should have very inflated goal scoring/ assists figures this year.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 10, 2021, 03:48:16 PM
Wasted in that league tbf, he can only influence the Champions League, yes PSG managed to cock up a one horse race last year but the league is usually a done deal before its kicked off there, he should have very inflated goal scoring/ assists figures this year.

Yes i believe he will do very well in that league. Not much talent depth there outside the top 2/3 clubs.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on August 10, 2021, 04:48:16 PM
Re shirt sales. Not sure about the big boys but 75% of sales generally go to the manufacturers/suppliers.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: phbaggies on August 10, 2021, 04:52:46 PM
Re shirt sales. Not sure about the big boys but 75% of sales generally go to the manufacturers/suppliers.
Its not just shirts though, anything they can get Messi's name and face on now they will, obviously he will have his cut too, but there are a hell of a lot of marketing avenues opened up for them to take advantage of now.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 11, 2021, 02:50:20 PM
Being reported that Arsenal have agreed deal for Ramsdale. 24m guaranteed and upto another 6m in add ons. Insane
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 11, 2021, 02:57:54 PM
Being reported that Arsenal have agreed deal for Ramsdale. 24m guaranteed and upto another 6m in add ons. Insane

Top keeper and only early 20s. There is a reason no one is in for SJ at a third of the cost.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 11, 2021, 03:06:40 PM
If Sheffield United get £59m for Berge and Ramsdale then they'll be a different beast by the end of the transfer window.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: phbaggies on August 11, 2021, 03:15:31 PM
If Sheffield United get £59m for Berge and Ramsdale then they'll be a different beast by the end of the transfer window.
Glad we are playing them next week!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 11, 2021, 05:04:18 PM
Given what Sheff Utd paid for Ramsdale, it isn't a huge profit on him (initially anyway), but as Johnny says, if they get over £50m for him and Berge that's a lot of money to spend remodelling their squad.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 11, 2021, 05:26:25 PM
No, don't get Ramsdale at all. £42m in fees across two windows I know English I know young but I just don't see it and I absolutely can't see him replacing Leno.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on August 11, 2021, 05:26:39 PM
If Sheffield United get £59m for Berge and Ramsdale then they'll be a different beast by the end of the transfer window.

Just as well Lundstram joined Rangers on a free then really. Something which I admit had completely passed me by.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 12, 2021, 02:07:45 PM
James Garner rejects Man Utd offer of new contract. Plenty of Champo clubs sniffing around.

Is he any good? What kind of midfielder is he?  Scored 4 in 20 while on loan at Forest last season.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 12, 2021, 02:28:18 PM
James Garner rejects Man Utd offer of new contract. Plenty of Champo clubs sniffing around.

Is he any good? What kind of midfielder is he?  Scored 4 in 20 while on loan at Forest last season.

Rumored to be very good, and a bit of an all action player I think.  I wonder if he might be the next off to Germany. If there is any chance he goes a to a championship club we should be in.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 12, 2021, 02:34:30 PM
Rumored to be very good, and a bit of an all action player I think.  I wonder if he might be the next off to Germany. If there is any chance he goes a to a championship club we should be in.

Thanks JC, Forest, Stoke and Sheff Utd interested apparently. Would require a fee as still under contract at moment so probably rules us out.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on August 12, 2021, 02:49:22 PM
that James garner is a bit of a maverick isnt he?

Have to be 60plus, kids!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 12, 2021, 03:48:18 PM
Thanks JC, Forest, Stoke and Sheff Utd interested apparently. Would require a fee as still under contract at moment so probably rules us out.

From the little i've seen and what i've read I think he would be perfect alongside Mowatt in our system. He did quite well at Forest last year. I remember he scored a belter against our u23's.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hull Baggie on August 12, 2021, 04:10:24 PM
that James garner is a bit of a maverick isnt he?

Have to be 60plus, kids!

I'm 54 and I got it!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gerry m on August 12, 2021, 06:17:14 PM
Sorry if this has already been posted, but Lukaku back at Chelsea for a fee of £97.5m :o
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 12, 2021, 06:22:39 PM
Sorry if this has already been posted, but Lukaku back at Chelsea for a fee of £97.5m :o

A superb player with an exceptional record considering how managers have deployed him since he left us.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: richjonawba on August 12, 2021, 07:27:32 PM
A superb player with an exceptional record considering how managers have deployed him since he left us.

Imagine how good he would be if he learned to control a football to go along with his other undoubted attributes. £100million is quite frankly an absurd fee for him.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: MarkW on August 12, 2021, 07:33:26 PM
Imagine how good he would be if he learned to control a football to go along with his other undoubted attributes. £100million is quite frankly an absurd fee for him.

Conte has developed him a huge amount
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: richjonawba on August 12, 2021, 07:41:14 PM
Conte has developed him a huge amount

That wasn’t on display in the Euros, still a pathetically poor first touch. As I said he has a lot of good things to his game but shows how poor the selection of centre forwards is at the moment that he is deemed worth £100m
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 12, 2021, 07:55:59 PM
Imagine how good he would be if he learned to control a football to go along with his other undoubted attributes. £100million is quite frankly an absurd fee for him.

He's not a hold up man, never has been despite a succession of managers using him as such due to his strength.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: WBArgo on August 12, 2021, 08:28:16 PM
That wasn’t on display in the Euros, still a pathetically poor first touch. As I said he has a lot of good things to his game but shows how poor the selection of centre forwards is at the moment that he is deemed worth £100m

Whatever way you want to put it his record is 250 in 500 goals. You get what you pay for.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on August 12, 2021, 08:35:29 PM
His international records not to shabby either !
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 16, 2021, 08:40:50 AM
Born in the USA

Josh Sargeant becomes the highest profile of the young Americans to move this window. The Centre Forward joins Norwich from relegated Werder Bremen for a fee in the region of £8m

Sargent’s career path is being pursued by a growing number of players who have started life in the MLS academy system (confusingly it runs alongside a traditional collegiate recruitment system) This window Sam Vine has joined Royal Antwerp and Serie A newcomers Venezia have hired central midfielders Tanner Tresmann and Gianluca Busio. Elsewhere in Italy Roma have picked up young right back Bryan Reynolds for £6m from FC Dallas


Ten Years After..

his first arrival there as a teenager Lukaku returned to Stamford Bridge. Nothing highlights the total insanity of the transfer market and how big clubs approach it than this sequence of events

2011 Chelsea bought Lukaku  for £13m which was a chunky fee for the teenager. In the same window Augerro joins City for just over £30m and Cavanni moved for about £10m

2012 After not doing much with him 2011 Chelsea loan him to WBA where he scored 17 goals outscoring any Chelsea player

2013 Chelsea loan him out to Everton where he again outscores every Chelsea player

2014 Chelsea sell him to Everton for £31m they don’t put a buy back clause in the deal

2017 After 4 seasons of abusing Premier League defences at Everton Lukaku moves to Man United for £76m. Chelsea are rumoured to be interested but don’t follow through.

2019 Having never really settled at United he moves on to Inter for £66m to join Conte the manager that apparently wanted him to return to Chelsea.

2021 Now at 28 he returns to Chelsea who pay £100m for the privilege
In a word madness. Lukaku is one of the top strikers in Europe but has been for the better part of half a decade he wanted to be at Chelsea. They had him in the building and he outscored their players on loan at lesser clubs. Now they spend a fortune for the last few peak seasons.

Inter have spent some of the money they generated from the sale of Lukaku and brought in Denzel Dumfries from PSV and filled the gap left by Lukaku with Edin Dzeko from Roma on a free. It looks likely that Roma in turn will buy Tammy Abraham.

Roma seem to be backing Mourinho (with money they haven’t got) they have also completed a deal for right back  Matías Viña for £11m from Palmeries.

In Germany the players continue to leave relegated Werder Bremen Ludwig Augustinsson being the latest, joining Sevilla for a bit over £4m. It makes you wonder with all these desirable players, how did they end up being relegated? 

Premier League

Southampton hired Adam Armstrong as a replacement for Danny Ings from Blackburn for £16m and brought in Armando Broja from Chelsea on loan. Still only 19 Broja has a season in the Eredivisie might be quite an astute signing for the Saints. 

Axel Tuanzebe joined Villa on loan for a third time come on guys make up your minds.

Yoane Wissa £9m to Brentford from Lorien for £9m another signing that will work for them longer term regardless of which division they find themselves in May

Joe Willock Central Midfield £26m goes back to Newcastle made them a whole lot better last season, a key signature going forward.

Jannik Vestergaard 29 Centre Back £15m from Southampton an emergency signing following the injury Forfana which is likely to keep him out for the season..


Championship Corner

The Ravel Morrison odyssey has landed at Derby which is totally on brand for both parties.

Forest have picked up Right Winger Philip Zinckernagel on loan from Watford.

Swansea have bought in some much needed reinforcement in the shape of Flynn Downes from Ipswich.

Cardiff pick up veteran winger Marley from Bristol City on a free

Leo Östigard on loan from Brighton a good pick up following a good season at Coventry

Coventry in effect replace Ostigard with Chelsea’ s Jake Clarke-Salter who at 23 probably needs a permanent home

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on August 16, 2021, 11:57:26 AM
Lukaku was loved here yet mocked by Chelsea and Man Utd fans we would have happily took Big Rom can't wait to see him rip up the league to stop the critics and make us Baggies Fans Proud we had him.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: phbaggies on August 16, 2021, 12:04:25 PM
Lukaku was loved here yet mocked by Chelsea and Man Utd fans we would have happily took Big Rom can't wait to see him rip up the league to stop the critics and make us Baggies Fans Proud we had him.
I lost every bit of respect I had for Lukaku when he came up here for United, Fellaini scored and Lukaku jumped on his back celebrating and fist pumping in front of us in the SME, no need
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on August 16, 2021, 12:23:05 PM
I lost every bit of respect I had for Lukaku when he came up here for United, Fellaini scored and Lukaku jumped on his back celebrating and fist pumping in front of us in the SME, no need
He probably did it in front of United Fans he was still probably thankful to us we got him to Utd and now all of this if we had not took a chance he might be nowhere.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: phbaggies on August 16, 2021, 01:15:57 PM
He probably did it in front of United Fans he was still probably thankful to us we got him to Utd and now all of this if we had not took a chance he might be nowhere.
It was in front of our fans mate, I remember it well as I sit in the Smethwick, im all for celebrating but sh!thousing in front of our fans when it wasnt even him who scored was uncalled for if you ask me
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on August 16, 2021, 02:52:16 PM
It was in front of our fans mate, I remember it well as I sit in the Smethwick, im all for celebrating but sh!thousing in front of our fans when it wasnt even him who scored was uncalled for if you ask me

Professional footballer in celebrating team mate's goal shocker.... it was hardly Steve Bull or Jamie Vardy territory. I have no issues with former players celebrating their own goals either. Might change if one did a full length of the pitch run and knee slide like Adebayor though mind.....
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 16, 2021, 04:34:28 PM
Fulham sign Rodrigo Muniz from Flamengo for 8m euro according to Romano. Who is he and is he any good?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on August 16, 2021, 04:40:11 PM
Sheff Utd take Ben Davies on season loan from Liverpool. Just our luck it will be in time for Wednesday.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 16, 2021, 05:22:46 PM
Shefd Utd also looking at Diallo on loan from United. They could be way too good for this division by the end of the month.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: baggies_24 on August 16, 2021, 05:43:31 PM
Shefd Utd also looking at Diallo on loan from United. They could be way too good for this division by the end of the month.

Christ they get him & keep Berge them & Fulham will be head and shoulders above every other team in the division.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 19, 2021, 08:46:00 AM
Morgan Rogers moving to Bournemouth on loan with rumours of an obligation to buy for £9m. If past reports are correct, we should make a bit of money off it.

The cherries are also expected to complete a second signing tomorrow as well, notnsire who. Spending the Danjuma money.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 19, 2021, 09:53:20 AM
Morgan Rogers moving to Bournemouth on loan with rumours of an obligation to buy for £9m. If past reports are correct, we should make a bit of money off it.

The cherries are also expected to complete a second signing tomorrow as well, notnsire who. Spending the Danjuma money.

I believe that signing is Gary Cahill who is at Bournemouth for a medical today apparently.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 19, 2021, 10:14:25 AM
Watford have signed Tufan, done deal.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 19, 2021, 10:31:59 AM
Morgan Rogers moving to Bournemouth on loan with rumours of an obligation to buy for £9m. If past reports are correct, we should make a bit of money off it.

The cherries are also expected to complete a second signing tomorrow as well, notnsire who. Spending the Danjuma money.

When there was rumours of Rogers being valued £7m I did wonder if it would be worth us going in and offering to give them the £4m back they gave us, which net of any sell on would probably have been quite similar for city. At £9m the Math's don't really work though. 

He did quite well at Lincoln for his first steps in to a first team.  Overpriced right now at £9m but could be a really good player for Bournemouth and could look well spent in a year or too.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on August 19, 2021, 12:19:41 PM
Watford have signed Tufan, done deal.
A Turkish international. As he's a midfielder looks like they've chosen not to take Okay, meaning we may still be in with a chance of signing him.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 19, 2021, 02:29:58 PM
A Turkish international. As he's a midfielder looks like they've chosen not to take Okay, meaning we may still be in with a chance of signing him.

Just don't see where Okay fits in this team. Not a knock on his ability at all. Streets ahead of Livermore but can he do the intense style of play VI wants?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 19, 2021, 02:37:18 PM
Just don't see where Okay fits in this team. Not a knock on his ability at all. Streets ahead of Livermore but can he do the intense style of play VI wants?

We've currently got Livermore as a crucial starting player. YokuÅŸlu could play that role to a far higher standard. I don't think we'll sign him though, he's too good for the Championship.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 19, 2021, 02:53:52 PM
I'm definitely not suggesting keep Livermore as a starter, a new CF and box to box CM are crucial.

Yokuslu strikes me as a player who wouldn't be best suited to this system.  Agreed he won't come here if he gets a PL offer but who is left now Watford have got their DCM in?  Wolves i think are the only team left who were rumoured to be interested. They have also just sold one of their CM for 3.5m so they remain a possibility for him i guess.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 19, 2021, 03:05:15 PM
Just don't see where Okay fits in this team. Not a knock on his ability at all. Streets ahead of Livermore but can he do the intense style of play VI wants?
all he has to do is tackle and harass (something he’s very good at) and boot it to a forward as fast a possible, he’s more than capable of that.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 19, 2021, 03:08:46 PM
all he has to do is tackle and harass (something he’s very good at) and boot it to a forward as fast a possible, he’s more than capable of that.


While i don't disagree with anything you said and he's good at the above he needs to be doing it at a lot higher speed/intensity than he is used too though. Just doesn't strike me as the manic type.

It's quite clear as well if it doesn't suit him then he will be bombed out like Sawyers and Zohore but i think most of us would agree they were the 2 that were never going to suitable for this manager.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Atomic on August 19, 2021, 03:11:49 PM
I think Yokuslu is tailor made for this midfield. Big, strong has presence, can tackle, head, get the ball forward. Absolutely ideal.

It's a possession based team he would struggle in more unless he sat at the base of a 3 man CM.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 19, 2021, 03:12:22 PM

While i don't disagree with anything you said and he's good at the above he needs to be doing it at a lot higher speed/intensity than he is used too though. Just doesn't strike me as the manic type.

It's quite clear as well if it doesn't suit him then he will be bombed out like Sawyers and Zohore but i think most of us would agree they were the 2 that were never going to suitable for this manager.

It doesn't suit Livermore, but we're mending and making do. If we could get a better tactical fit than YokuÅŸlu I'd be all for it, but let's not suggest he wouldn't be a massive upgrade in this system/role on Livermore.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 19, 2021, 03:14:57 PM
It doesn't suit Livermore, but we're mending and making do. If we could get a better tactical fit than YokuÅŸlu I'd be all for it, but let's not suggest he wouldn't be a massive upgrade in this system/role on Livermore.

It suits Livermore in that he's got a good engine and can do end to end running if not play decent football. Easier to get physically fit enough to play this system than become a good footballer at 31 years old granted.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 20, 2021, 05:13:11 PM
Ramsdale to Arsenal done apparently.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 23, 2021, 08:31:32 AM
This is the End

Last week marked the beginning of the end.  There were two weeks to go in the window. This is when the market gets serious, decisions from players and clubs can no longer be delayed and then not much happens which suggests the next week will be frantic.

Premier League is having a laugh

While not much happened the deals that went through highlighted the gulf between the haves and have nots
 
Ozan Tufan joins Watford on loan from Fenerbahce taking their squad to a ridiculously bloated 34 players. I think they might be letting one or two go between now and the end of the window. 

Arsenal bought Ramsdale for £24m and Odegaard for £31m hate the former and like the latter but in the context of what Arsenal have done across the window it seems impossible to spend over £100m on players and still not be where you need to be. How do you do that?

Championship Corner (aka Bleak House) 

Swansea picked up the promising Right Back  Ethan Laird on loan from Man United.

Ben Davis joins Sheffield United from Liverpool on loan.

Derby signed Phil Jagalka and Sam Baldock on frees; hopefully Wayne won’t break these on the training ground.

Veteran free agent Tom Huddlestone rejoins Hull City

Junior Hoillet has joined Reading on a free.

James Garner has joined Notts Forest on a season long loan.

Gary Cahill joined Bournemouth on a free in a week where the South Coast club sold  Arnaut Danjuma for £21m to Villareal. Across the last two windows Bournemouth have received £108m in fees and spent zero on fees.

Fulham are the only club spending money buying young Brazilian Centre Forward Rodrigo Munez for £7m. Not sure what the plan is for the player given Mitrovic will get the bulk of the minutes.
 
This window Championship clubs have spent £34m in total, Fulham have accounted for 55% of that spend.

Elsewhere in Europe

Tammy Abraham joins Roma from Chelsea for £36m. They really are betting the house on Mourinho. This has the Champions League or bust written all over it. 

Defensive midfielder Baptiste Santamaria, a long term favourite of the analytics community, returns to France joining  Stade Rennais who thanks to their ownership are able to buck the trend in French football.

Juve have somehow managed to persuade Sassuolo to part with Manuel Locatelli on loan for two years with an obligation to buy.

The annual Michy Batshuayi farce continues, his next stop is Besiktas and another Chelsea player, Emerson leaves on loan to Lyon. 

Rafa Mir leaves Wolves and joins Sevilla for £14m which is eye-catching given a fairly nondescript career at Wolves. Was on loan in La Liga with minnows Huesca last season and despite their relegation must have created a favourable impression.

Luca Waldschmidt joins Wolfsburg from Benefica for £3m less than he was sold for the previous summer when he joined the Portuguese club from Freiburg.

Overall not much happened which means either the window will peter out or the next week or so is going to be manic.     
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 25, 2021, 10:59:08 AM
Watford have had loan bid rejected for Yokuslu according to SSN.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 26, 2021, 10:06:36 AM
Our old mate William Carvalho is back in the transfer news but not to us this time


@SkySportsNews
Norwich City are in talks with Real Betis over the signing of Portugal international midfielder William Carvalho."
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 26, 2021, 04:03:40 PM
Speaking of Norwich they have come to a mutual release of Tom Trybull (DCM) on a free. Seems thats our strategy now so who knows
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 27, 2021, 10:56:47 PM
Dominic King saying Rondon might be on way to Everton.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 28, 2021, 12:27:17 AM
If anybody thought that transfers were easy this from Paul Conway Barnsley's co-chair

"We really need players who want to play for Barnsley, who want to be at our club. And during the process this summer of looking to strengthen our squad, we've had some really interesting situations.

"We reached agreements with three different Premier League clubs for three players we felt would be ideal for us in terms of their talent. One of these players told us we'd need to pay him 40% more to play for Barnsley. That was a short conversation. The second one basically told us he didn't agree with our style of play, that we'd need to change that if he was to come. Again, a very short conversation.

"The third one is the funniest one. We had a signed transfer agreement, we'd agreed personal terms, we'd done the medical and the player was scheduled to do his media pieces before signing the contract. And then the player just drove away! We were like, 'where did he go?' and he'd just left the club and got in his car and left!


You have to feel sorry for the people working behind the scenes to get these deals done but I guess they found out their potential recruits were less than committed before they put pen to paper.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 30, 2021, 12:21:41 AM
It Seemed Like a Good Idea At The Time

With just two days left until the window closes there is still a lot that might happen and the last few deals a club does might make their squads more rational, make deals that were puzzling less so and everything will become clear. But right now West Ham have done a proper West Ham thing and only gone and signed Kurt Zouma from Chelsea.

Kurt Zouma is maybe the best Centre Back West Ham can get. Not a Rolls Royce defender more your Jeep Cherokee but perfectly fit for purpose, a dominant defender in good running order and without too many miles on the clock. However having spent the budget (£31m fee and a very big wage) on this nice shiney off roader you realise it’s a bit of nightmare to drive in the City and you also need a cheap run around to ferry the kids to school (Central Midfield Cover) and you need a Van for your business (Centre Forward cover for Antonnio). But the Jeep Cherokee is lovely although maybe a bit useless without the other bits of business that have been delayed while you haggled over the deal.

More Odd Stuff

Watford cut their squad down to the bare bones selling Will Hughes for £6m to Palace but thankfully kept their horde intact by backfilling with Mouso Sissoko from Spurs.

When you make your full international debut at 16 for Croatia and join Barcelona as a teenager you don’t expect to move from Birmingham City to Reading on a one year contract as a free agent at the age of 25 which is the career path that  Alen Halilovic has followed.

Reading have also signed one of Chelsea’s long term loan army,  left back Abdul-Rahman Baba who they paid Ausberg £20m for 5 years ago and still have another 3 years on his contract (one which was extended in 2020, no I don’t understand either)

The return to Burnley of Aaron Lennon following his release last summer is a little odd although maybe having played 36 games in Turkey last season there is a bit of life left in his legs yet.

Max Lowe has joined Notts Forest on loan having never made a competitive appearance for Sheffield United which is a bit of a head scratcher.

The hot cold cycle of Alexander Sörloth’s career went through a cold cycle at Leipzig last season so he is on the move again this time he is off to Real Sociedad in La Liga on loan . If the Norwegian International runs true to form he will score at least 15 goals this season.

Remember the Name

Seeing a lot of Spurs fans getting quite excited by the signing of Pape Sarr, the next big thing to come out of French football, we will have to wait and see as the 18 year old Defensive Midfielder has returned to Metz on loan for the season.
 
I’m not sure whether Southampton’s signing of Brazilian Centre Back  Lyanco from Torino is inspired scouting or scraping the bottom of the barrel. Relatively cheap at a bit over £6m and there is a player there but huge question marks over his progression which has been hampered by injury. Time will tell.

Kamal Sowah joined Club Brugge from Leicester City for £8m which might seem great money for a kid who has never played for the first team. I think they will regret letting the youngster go. He is going to be a star but then again so was Alen Halilovic.

Mitchell van Bergen and Jurgen Ekkelenkamp are the latest exports from the Eredivisie joining Reims and Hertha Berlin respectively not headline grabbing deals but young and with a couple years development could be very interesting prospects. It still never ceases to amaze me how much talent the Netherlands produces and exports around the tier one leagues.

The Green eyed monster stirs a little

Ike Ugbo joined Genk from Chelsea for just £3m. I'd have liked WBA to get that one huge upside potential ( will now probably have a career trajectory of a rock now I’ve cursed him) and more than capable of scoring bags of goals in the Championship.

Ligue 1 is still bleeding talent.

Xherdan Shaqiri has joined Lyon for £5m which is interesting given that earlier this summer Liverpool were looking for £15m for the 29 year old. Lyon will get a good player for 3 years and a world class ****houser. However Maxwel Cornet who is happy anywhere down the wide left channel has left the French club for Burnley for £14m which summarises the relative positions of Ligue 1 and the Premier League.

The window shuts on Tuesday, Ronaldo will be formally announced and everyone will lose their mind. I’ll write something up that pulls the whole circus together when the dust settles.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on August 30, 2021, 07:58:53 AM
Onel Hernandez joining Boro from Norwich on loan .Don't know  what's happened to this lad ,a couple of years ago he was highly sort after by quite a few clubs, good business  by Colin  >:(
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 30, 2021, 09:02:48 AM
If anybody thought that transfers were easy this from Paul Conway Barnsley's co-chair

"We really need players who want to play for Barnsley, who want to be at our club. And during the process this summer of looking to strengthen our squad, we've had some really interesting situations.

"We reached agreements with three different Premier League clubs for three players we felt would be ideal for us in terms of their talent. One of these players told us we'd need to pay him 40% more to play for Barnsley. That was a short conversation. The second one basically told us he didn't agree with our style of play, that we'd need to change that if he was to come. Again, a very short conversation.

"The third one is the funniest one. We had a signed transfer agreement, we'd agreed personal terms, we'd done the medical and the player was scheduled to do his media pieces before signing the contract. And then the player just drove away! We were like, 'where did he go?' and he'd just left the club and got in his car and left!


You have to feel sorry for the people working behind the scenes to get these deals done but I guess they found out their potential recruits were less than committed before they put pen to paper.

The kid who didn’t think he would fit the style of play has done nothing wrong, if that’s all it was. He’s every right to look after his own career and think about where he would fit in and what would suit his game.

It would be interesting to know who the other two are and see where there careers go though as their behaviour was certainly poor.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2021, 09:30:33 AM
Anguissa leaving Fulham to join Napoli.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: PartisanBaggie on August 30, 2021, 09:59:44 AM
If anybody thought that transfers were easy this from Paul Conway Barnsley's co-chair

"We really need players who want to play for Barnsley, who want to be at our club. And during the process this summer of looking to strengthen our squad, we've had some really interesting situations.

"We reached agreements with three different Premier League clubs for three players we felt would be ideal for us in terms of their talent. One of these players told us we'd need to pay him 40% more to play for Barnsley. That was a short conversation. The second one basically told us he didn't agree with our style of play, that we'd need to change that if he was to come. Again, a very short conversation.

"The third one is the funniest one. We had a signed transfer agreement, we'd agreed personal terms, we'd done the medical and the player was scheduled to do his media pieces before signing the contract. And then the player just drove away! We were like, 'where did he go?' and he'd just left the club and got in his car and left!


You have to feel sorry for the people working behind the scenes to get these deals done but I guess they found out their potential recruits were less than committed before they put pen to paper.

The third signing, two things have happened here: Either his agent has been on the phone with a better proposition or having looked around the club etc. he’s thought nah, this club/set-up ain’t for me

Must have been bad though if he walked straight out without saying a word to any club officials. Interestingly enough, it makes no mention of the agent being present.

Still, an interesting read and I hope it’s not a poor reflection of how the South Yorkshire club are run.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: baggie96 on August 30, 2021, 10:25:29 AM
Anguissa leaving Fulham to join Napoli.

Fulham trying to sign William Carvalho as his replacement! :o

If they don’t go up they’re going to be in serious financial trouble surely
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2021, 10:41:41 AM
Fulham trying to sign William Carvalho as his replacement! :o

If they don’t go up they’re going to be in serious financial trouble surely


Also in for Grimes. Had 2.5m bid rejected today apparently.

Owner is minted so guess he will bail them out or do you mean FFP terms because i don't have a clue about FFP
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: NJS on August 30, 2021, 10:47:32 AM
If anybody thought that transfers were easy this from Paul Conway Barnsley's co-chair

"We really need players who want to play for Barnsley, who want to be at our club. And during the process this summer of looking to strengthen our squad, we've had some really interesting situations.

"We reached agreements with three different Premier League clubs for three players we felt would be ideal for us in terms of their talent. One of these players told us we'd need to pay him 40% more to play for Barnsley. That was a short conversation. The second one basically told us he didn't agree with our style of play, that we'd need to change that if he was to come. Again, a very short conversation.

"The third one is the funniest one. We had a signed transfer agreement, we'd agreed personal terms, we'd done the medical and the player was scheduled to do his media pieces before signing the contract. And then the player just drove away! We were like, 'where did he go?' and he'd just left the club and got in his car and left!


You have to feel sorry for the people working behind the scenes to get these deals done but I guess they found out their potential recruits were less than committed before they put pen to paper.

There's a big problem here generated by the skewed finances in the game.  A lot of youngsters are hoovered up by the top eight clubs and get accustomed to the plush wages, perks  and atmosphere of their owning clubs.  so they get very greedy as evidenced by Stan's first example, big heads as evidenced by his second example or unwilling to live and play in smaller less glamorous surroundings.  In short, they are spoilt rotten. 
It's a matter of doing searching interviews so that you can detect who genuinely wants to play above anything else - Gallagher was a fine example.

It does show how hard it has become for clubs like Barnsley and, I afraid, The Albion.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: baggie96 on August 30, 2021, 10:59:24 AM

Also in for Grimes. Had 2.5m bid rejected today apparently.

Owner is minted so guess he will bail them out or do you mean FFP terms because i don't have a clue about FFP

The money they’re spending is insane, Mitrovic’s new contract is 80k per week as well. Absolutely crazy in this league
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2021, 11:00:29 AM
The money they’re spending is insane, Mitrovic’s new contract is 80k per week as well. Absolutely crazy in this league

That is bonkers, must be relying on owner. Should go up although nothing is guaranteed.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2021, 11:06:21 AM
Hourihane from Vile to Blades on loan nearly done.  Good move for all really. They are desperate for some players, they are pants so far.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 30, 2021, 11:39:29 AM
Andre Gray looking likely to move to QPR, a club who seem to be spending a bit of money. Definite contenders for promotion and for all of the talk of clubs like ours having an unassailable financial advantage thanks to parachute payments, clubs like QPR and Boro seem to be far outspending us.

Norwich also signing Ozan Kabak from Schalke, having been on loan at Liverpool last season. Norwich haven’t been the best in the transfer window in the last few years, but they have made a couple of really top signings this summer and even if they come down, they will have evolved and improved their squad and will likely bounce back again even stronger. They are too cautious, but we could learn a thing from them.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 30, 2021, 01:03:08 PM
I think part of the problem in the Barnsley examples I quoted the club seems to have gone about things the "right way" and agreed terms with the clubs involved rather than getting all the issues ironed out with the players agents before talking to the club.

 I don't blame a player for turning down a move based on style of play (more should do it) but I think the suggestion that the club change to accommodate him is shall we say a little bit rich. 

Fulham have been heavily subsidised by the Khan's they spent upwards of £150m on the project wasted a lot of it and will no doubt buy another promotion so escape championship FFP restrictions but they absolutely have to get out the first time of asking.

QPR and Middlesbrough's player budgets regardless of what they do in the next 48 hours will be about half of ours. 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2021, 05:16:32 PM
Fulham are letting right-back Cyrus Christie go on a free once he can find a club.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 30, 2021, 05:34:17 PM
Seems tomorrow’s ongoing saga will be the whereabouts of Ainsley Maitland-Niles.  Likely destination is Everton though Arsenal not looking to sell. 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2021, 05:38:13 PM
Seems tomorrow’s ongoing saga will be the whereabouts of Ainsley Maitland-Niles.  Likely destination is Everton though Arsenal not looking to sell.

Wonder if he still sees himself as a CM. Might limit his options big time if he does.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 30, 2021, 05:43:29 PM
Wonder if he still sees himself as a CM. Might limit his options big time if he does.
He does, so it will …
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2021, 05:45:01 PM
He does, so it will …

Not good enough in CM for the PL for me.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2021, 05:45:48 PM
Blues have agreed deal for Troy Deeney thankfully.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on August 30, 2021, 06:05:23 PM
Scott Dann signed by Reading on a free , won’t be the worst signing this window
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: KYA on August 30, 2021, 06:27:17 PM
Blues have agreed deal for Troy Deeney thankfully.
Agreed although I just think it was paper talk had we signed him it would have made nonsense of the Hugill signing.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2021, 06:57:48 PM
Leeds have signed Daniel James from Man Utd for 20m.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2021, 07:56:17 PM
2 signings today for Reading FC. As well as Scott Dann they have signed Danny Drinkwater on loan for the season.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gerry m on August 30, 2021, 08:00:57 PM
2 signings today for Reading FC. As well as Scott Dann they have signed Danny Drinkwater on loan for the season.

Danny Drinkwater! what a mess he has made of his career. By the sound of it fond of the drink.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2021, 08:12:58 PM
Nixon saying Ryan Christie could be on way to Bournemouth over Burnley. Currently deciding.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2021, 08:16:14 PM
Wolves considering a move for Fulhams Adarabioyo - Romano
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 30, 2021, 08:34:31 PM
Leeds have signed Daniel James from Man Utd for 20m.

And the rest...

Pereira fee looks worse with each passing deal.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2021, 08:38:40 PM
And the rest...

Pereira fee looks worse with each passing deal.

Romano said 28m euro which is roughly 20m
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 30, 2021, 08:40:54 PM
£24m.

There are a load of fees bouncing around at the moment. I've seen £30m as well but it could be anything, I always take the rumours with a pinch of salt, the more accurate figures usually.come a few days later.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2021, 08:42:57 PM
No I'm being daft it's not 20m at all. More like 25m

Edit -Baggies is right 24m
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 30, 2021, 09:01:10 PM
It’s an eye watering amount of money no matter how much it is.

Just really shows how poor our Pereira deal was.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2021, 09:14:47 PM
From Percy

Crystal Palace have agreed a fee of around £15m with #Celtic for Odsonne Edouard. Medical in the morning and ends Palace’s search for another striker #cpfc
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 30, 2021, 09:34:12 PM
Wolves also signing Renato Sanchez on loan. Good move if he stays fit, although his last foray in the English leagues didn't quite work.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 30, 2021, 09:58:33 PM
From Percy

Crystal Palace have agreed a fee of around £15m with #Celtic for Odsonne Edouard. Medical in the morning and ends Palace’s search for another striker #cpfc

Good deal for Celtic.  His attitude across the last 18 months has been woeful.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 31, 2021, 11:21:26 AM
Bournemouth have agreed a £1.5m deal with Swansea to sign Jamal Lowe; he's having a medical.

Bournemouth are also trying to sign midfielder Ryan Christie from Celtic.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2021, 11:35:23 AM
Andy Carroll set to join Reading fc
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Post by: lewisant on August 31, 2021, 11:45:37 AM
Reading are currently summing up the state of finances in the Championship with Drinkwater and Carroll. Scott Dann could be an ok signing but all short term and without transfer fees.
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Post by: MarkW on August 31, 2021, 11:50:07 AM
Ainsley Maitland-Niles getting messed around by Arsenal. Was meant to be off to Everton, but not any more. Feel sorry for the guy - played for Arsenal since age six.

He wouldn't come back but I'd have him in midfield again
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Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 31, 2021, 01:17:32 PM
There's talk on twitter of Berahino heading to Sheffield Wednesday
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Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2021, 01:53:43 PM
Sheff Utd getting a few in according to Romano:

"Sheffield United are set to sign French winger Yann Karamoh from Parma on loan. Medical ongoing in Paris and then the deal will be announced. Red circleFlag of France "

AND

"Robin Olsen is close to join Sheffield United from AS Roma, here-we-go soon. He’s expected to be Ramsdale replacement, deal agreed on one-season loan. Red circleFlag of Sweden #DeadlineDay"
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Post by: albion59 on August 31, 2021, 04:44:21 PM
There's talk on twitter of Berahino heading to Sheffield Wednesday
According too sky, he as signed.  Hope Darren Moore hasn't made a huge mistake.
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Post by: Albionic on August 31, 2021, 05:45:55 PM
According too sky, he as signed.  Hope Darren Moore hasn't made a huge mistake.

I thought Darren had tried to straighten him out before and failed !   Strange one that.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 31, 2021, 05:57:51 PM
If I were a league one CEO, I’d only be signing Berahino on a deal heavily weighted to incentives and appearances. Wednesday have hardly be run well recently though.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 31, 2021, 06:20:00 PM
If I were a league one CEO, I’d only be signing Berahino on a deal heavily weighted to incentives and appearances. Wednesday have hardly be run well recently though.

The indications are that it is incentive based.
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Post by: skyclad99 on August 31, 2021, 07:06:05 PM
God knows what PSG are playing at. Just rejected a bid of £189m for Mbappe for Real Madrid, a player with one year left on his contract. Some real 'who blinks first' being played out there.......
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Post by: dangerman on August 31, 2021, 07:54:17 PM
Rondon off to Everton.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2021, 08:47:27 PM
Fulham trying to get Nathaniel Chalobah from Watford. Late one
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Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 31, 2021, 09:07:29 PM
How many players have they signed this window? Seems like every man and his dog has joined Fulham
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2021, 09:08:57 PM
How many players have they signed this window? Seems like every man and his dog has joined Fulham

Hungry for top flight football.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 31, 2021, 09:09:48 PM
Hungry for top flight football.

Or financial oblivion…
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2021, 09:12:48 PM
Or financial oblivion…

I think they will get what they are after.

They have actually only signed 3 havent they? Wilson, Gazzaniga and Muniz? About 20-22m combined.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 31, 2021, 09:23:52 PM
Or financial oblivion…

There owner bought the Jacksonville Jaguars for £770m and they are now worth £2.3bn and with the way the NFL works it’s only likely to go up further. They’ll be fine. Sadly this is what are competing with. He’s written off a lot of loans to Fulham because it’s pocket change.  He lets his son treat Fulham like a play thing.
 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2021, 09:25:53 PM
There owner bought the Jacksonville Jaguars for £770m and they are now worth £2.3bn and with the way the NFL works it’s only likely to go up further. They’ll be fine. Sadly this is what are competing with. He’s written off a lot of loans to Fulham because it’s pocket change.  He lets his son treat Fulham like a play thing.

Yep, also helped fund his sons own Wrestling promotion.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on August 31, 2021, 09:33:51 PM
Generally, lots of moaning fans from lots of clubs about lack of activity from their club in this window. Wolves, Villa, Liverpool, Newcastle just a few examples. Though it doesn't take much for Villa fans to moan. 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 31, 2021, 09:57:17 PM
There owner bought the Jacksonville Jaguars for £770m and they are now worth £2.3bn and with the way the NFL works it’s only likely to go up further. They’ll be fine. Sadly this is what are competing with. He’s written off a lot of loans to Fulham because it’s pocket change.  He lets his son treat Fulham like a play thing.

Not doubting their individual wealth - I doubt their ability to comply with FFP in this division should it go tits up.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 31, 2021, 10:01:54 PM
Not doubting their individual wealth - I doubt their ability to comply with FFP in this division should it go tits up.

FFP only seems to catchup with those who run out of money!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 31, 2021, 10:25:45 PM
It’s only a small victory, but it’s quietly amusing seeing the Wolves fan meltdown that’s been 4 or 5 years in the making. Ever the fantasists, Wolves fans - even the sensible ones - convinced themselves that their owners had a business plan that revolved around the club getting to the Champions league and becoming a footballing super power. It didn’t matter that the more realistic aim of being an established prem club with aspirations to win a cup was more likely and even the football leaks revelations about the real business plan didn’t make them see sense.

Now, as the owners continue to sell their top players for a profit and replace them with younger, developing players, Wolves fans are losing their minds. Last season they turned on Nuno, now they are talking of turning on Shi and Fosun. In reality, they have a side full of international footballers with some interesting young players in back up, but it isn’t enough - the fantasists had convinced themselves they would be playing at the Camp Nou every other year.

The best they have had it in generations and they still can’t enjoy it  :D ;D ;) :P
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Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2021, 10:30:31 PM
Fulham also working on Matt Grimes and Quina from Watford although don't expect all 3 including Chalobah.
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Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2021, 10:32:31 PM
Wolves rejected Spurs 30m Traore offer
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Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2021, 10:33:32 PM
Obafemi due to join Swansea from Saints. 1.5m
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Post by: Baggies on August 31, 2021, 10:45:03 PM
£1.5m for Obafemi? That price has ended up being a lot lower than originally asked for. Not sure why they sold Jamal Lowe to Bournemouth really.

Blackburn in for Burke.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2021, 10:48:51 PM
£1.5m for Obafemi? That price has ended up being a lot lower than originally asked for. Not sure why they sold Jamal Lowe to Bournemouth really.

Blackburn in for Burke.

No way?! How much are they overpaying for Oli Burke or is it a loan?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: skyclad99 on August 31, 2021, 10:51:35 PM
It’s only a small victory, but it’s quietly amusing seeing the Wolves fan meltdown that’s been 4 or 5 years in the making. Ever the fantasists, Wolves fans - even the sensible ones - convinced themselves that their owners had a business plan that revolved around the club getting to the Champions league and becoming a footballing super power. It didn’t matter that the more realistic aim of being an established prem club with aspirations to win a cup was more likely and even the football leaks revelations about the real business plan didn’t make them see sense.

Now, as the owners continue to sell their top players for a profit and replace them with younger, developing players, Wolves fans are losing their minds. Last season they turned on Nuno, now they are talking of turning on Shi and Fosun. In reality, they have a side full of international footballers with some interesting young players in back up, but it isn’t enough - the fantasists had convinced themselves they would be playing at the Camp Nou every other year.

The best they have had it in generations and they still can’t enjoy it  :D ;D ;) :P

I thought that was always the business model with Mendez involved so it should come as no surprise to the knuckle draggers.....
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Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2021, 10:52:03 PM
Aurier at Spurs has his contract terminated by mutual consent
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Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2021, 10:59:39 PM
Grimes staying at Swanse. Olivier Ntcham set to sign for Swansea too.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 31, 2021, 11:01:17 PM
No way?! How much are they overpaying for Oli Burke or is it a loan?

It was going to be a loan but it seems it has fell through now.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2021, 11:06:15 PM
It was going to be a loan but it seems it has fell through now.

Probably good for Blackburn that.

Rondon signs for Everton on a 2 year deal official
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2021, 11:34:27 PM
Saul to Chelsea done. Loan with 30m option to buy.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 01, 2021, 12:27:20 AM
It would actually damage Fosun's interests if they were further up the football hierarchy. Mid level Premier League is probably the sweet spot for the model to work. High enough up the pyramid to showcase the talent at a decent level but with enough market above them to be able to generate profits from fees by selling up the pyramid and not far enough up it to make recycling the failures too challenging.

Repeat after me Wolves aren't a football club they are a Fosun/Mendes trading platform to generate fees. Understand that and everything they do makes perfect sense. 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on September 01, 2021, 09:46:36 AM
It would actually damage Fosun's interests if they were further up the football hierarchy. Mid level Premier League is probably the sweet spot for the model to work. High enough up the pyramid to showcase the talent at a decent level but with enough market above them to be able to generate profits from fees by selling up the pyramid and not far enough up it to make recycling the failures too challenging.

Repeat after me Wolves aren't a football club they are a Fosun/Mendes trading platform to generate fees. Understand that and everything they do makes perfect sense.

my anagram generator cannot make that equal "a bunch of no mark tossa's from 5hitville staffs" no matter how many times i try !?  Sorry Stan you got that one wrong !  ;D
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Post by: skyclad99 on September 01, 2021, 10:06:43 AM
my anagram generator cannot make that equal "a bunch of no mark tossa's from 5hitville staffs" no matter how many times i try !?  Sorry Stan you got that one wrong !  ;D

It reads fine as it is Albionic, and is uncannily accurate........
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 01, 2021, 10:19:21 AM
Fulham DID manage to sign Chalobah and Quina from Watford after midnight. Only just noticed it.
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Post by: SmethDan on September 01, 2021, 10:33:00 AM
Fulham DID manage to sign Chalobah and Quina from Watford after midnight. Only just noticed it.

Fulham's squad has an embarrassment of riches. Here's hoping Silva can't keep them all happy and they're riven with internal squabbles which lead to spectacular implosion.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 01, 2021, 10:37:46 AM
Fulham's squad has an embarrassment of riches. Here's hoping Silva can't keep them all happy and they're riven with internal squabbles which lead to spectacular implosion.

Ridiculous for this level but as you say he can still only have 11 playing at any time.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on September 01, 2021, 12:47:50 PM
Fulham's squad has an embarrassment of riches. Here's hoping Silva can't keep them all happy and they're riven with internal squabbles which lead to spectacular implosion.

Only this football forum would have "riven" used on it !

We just need some sesquipedalian terms now and we are replete !
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 01, 2021, 08:44:01 PM
A deadline day deal I'm interested to follow is Ali McCann going from St Johnstone to Preston for around £1.5m.

St Johnstone have had an amazing 12 months, with their cup double and their draw against Galatasaray in Istanbul. McCann is described as a similar player to John McGinn - possibly ideal for our system.

At the price and his age, it could be a shrewd signing.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 02, 2021, 08:17:40 AM
Tuesday bought the circus to a close.

I will write up a summary for each of the Leagues and highlight any deals that caught my eye in the last 48 hours of the window. First up La Liga the figures in brackets are for the 20/21 summer window.

La Liga  21/22
Departures: 237  (282)
Income: £208m  (£473m)
Arrivals: 247 (306)
Transfer expenses: £264m (£346m)

Total balance: £-56m (£127m)

Overall fewer players were traded; these figures do include loans and loan fees where known. As ever the fees only tell half the story wages are hugely significant particularly in the light of La Liga’s FFP rules.

The story of the window was Barcelona's never ending struggle to balance the books which saw them finally move Griezmann to Atletico and Emerson Royale to Spurs bizarrely for a 50% profit in the same window they bought him from Betis. In order to accommodate Griezmann, Atletico moved Saul to Chelsea.

Elsewhere Real Madrid unloaded a lot of wages to clear the decks for an incoming Mbappe who did not arrive but the whole circus was not about signing the player this window but making sure they were in the box seat to sign him to a pre contract in January. It would have killed Real had PSG accepted their offer. They did however secure  Eduardo Camavinga for £28m from Stade Rennais and book a profit of £45m across the window.

Atletico were the big spenders along with the newly enriched Villareal and Sevilla accounted for about 50% of the total expenditure in La Liga and were the only clubs with a significant net spend.
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Post by: Standaman on September 05, 2021, 10:29:23 PM
Part 2 .. Bundesliga

Bundesliga 21/22  (20/21)

Departures: 229 (231)
Income: £408m (£295m)
Arrivals: 253 (243)
Transfer expenses: £375m (£281m)

Total balance:
£34m  (£13m)

For the second season running the German top flight turned a profit on it’s transfer dealings this is in part because of the financial constraints the 50 plus one ownership model places on clubs there is very little owner subsidy in German football. Even Red Bull largely balance their books now they have secured tier one football.

That is not to say that German football clubs can’t get themselves into a financial pickle but generally the model is more stable than most. One club in such a spot is relegated Schalke who aren’t included in the above figures but had a noteworthy window they turned over their entire squad with 25 departures due to their financial issues which have been further compounded by Covid-19 and relegation.

As with Spain a few clubs accounted for most of the expenditure. Bayern, Dortmund, Leipzig and Wolfsburg accounted for nearly 60% of the expenditure and only Wolfsburg and Bayern had significant net spends.

In the last 48 hours of the window a few deals went through with Marcel Sabitzer moving from Leipzig to Bayern for just £17m being the most significant. However Leipzig took advantage of the mess that is Barcelona to pick up the highly rated Ilaix Moriba for a similar figure.

Deadline day in Germany is pretty dull most of the clubs seem to have things wrapped up well before the window closes.

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Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 05, 2021, 10:43:41 PM
Deadline day in Germany is pretty dull most of the clubs seem to have things wrapped up well before the window closes.

Competent football clubs should not leave their summer business until the last 48 hours of the window. The Germans seemingly realise this.

Another good post Stan, thank you.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 05, 2021, 10:52:35 PM


That is not to say that German football clubs can’t get themselves into a financial pickle but generally the model is more stable than most. One club in such a spot is relegated Schalke who aren’t included in the above figures but had a noteworthy window they turned over their entire squad with 25 departures due to their financial issues which have been further compounded by Covid-19 and relegation.


Probably for the best given what some of the scummy fans did after Schalke’s relegation. For those who haven’t seen the footage, some fans waited at the ground after the game for when the players arrived back on the coach and proceeded to assault them. Awful security by the club as well. Another thing to remember when English fans are piled in on by some of their weirdly myopic critics.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 05, 2021, 11:56:25 PM
Probably for the best given what some of the scummy fans did after Schalke’s relegation. For those who haven’t seen the footage, some fans waited at the ground after the game for when the players arrived back on the coach and proceeded to assault them. Awful security by the club as well. Another thing to remember when English fans are piled in on by some of their weirdly myopic critics.

Slightly off topic while there is often much to admire in German football it is not the bed of roses that some would portray. The German game is a little bit too much in thrall of their fan culture and when that spills into violence then it gets pretty ugly.   
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 06, 2021, 02:29:47 PM
Part 3....

Serie A is a world entirely unto itself. Imagine a League of Watford's huge squads, masses of player trading and coaches hired and fired in a blink of an eye. It is bonkers and aside from UEFA level FFP it is largely unregulated and not sustainable. The Italian football federation has started to make noises about some sort of financial control in the light of the madness.

Serie A 21/22 (20/21)

Departures: 582  (563)
Income: £452 m (£621m)
Arrivals: 231 (238)
Transfer expenses: £495m (£724m)

Total balance: - £43m (-£103m)

Never mind the money the League has lost 600 players across the last  two summer windows and I have checked they all seem to have at least 25 man squads. The question is where have they gone? 

Some have just been released and not picked up by anybody as yet about 35 this year. However the answer is the loan market.  Italian football functions entirely around the loan market the scale of which is staggering. There are almost as many players (340) on loan from Serie A clubs as playing for them.

The team with the biggest stable of loaned players is Atlanta who currently have over 60 players playing elsewhere. They range from structured deals with an obligation to buy that Italian clubs are particularly fond of e.g. Romero going to Spurs to teenagers picking valuable game time in Serie C. Atlanta are the ultimate trading machine and are unique among the small city clubs in being able to compete with the teams from Rome, Milan, Turin and Naples.   

However it amounts to a giant trading model which basically allows Italian football to pretend it isn’t flat broke because deals are back end loaded and every now and then players can be exported for a big fee which keeps the whole edifice from crumbling.

Juve were desperate to get Ronaldo off the books and managed to unload him for a fee to United although with instalments spread over 5 years (i.e. two years after his Man United contract has expired) This would would have been impressive were it not for the same club persuading Sassuolo to part with Locatelli on a two year loan which is Dick Turpin level robbery (the player wanted the Juve deal badly and wasn’t open to alternatives)

It is this type of deal that keeps the plates spinning and the illusion of solvency. In the case of Inter the plates have come crashing down. They sold £144m of talent and spent £34m on filling some of the gaps as the owners basically ran out of money.

Roma have indulged Mourinho and given they have £200m of debt and no European football (which is very important in Italian football and marks out the haves from the have nots) It is very much make or break.

The end of the window is always frenetic in Italy with over 200 deals going through on deadline day alone,  it is difficult to pick out what is significant among all activity but Praet, Kean and Anguissa  all being recycled from the Premier League (on loan of course) suggests where the league is at.

The smaller clubs are trading like crazy just to stay afloat and one deal I thought noteworthy was Centre Forward David Strulic arriving at Spezia for £2m from Slovan Bratislava, a young player with a bright future ahead of him but that could easily be lost in the swirl of Serie A.

I am inclined to think that Italian  football clubs exist largely to trade players and actually playing football matches must be a terrible distraction.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 10, 2021, 12:13:11 AM
Part 4 .....

Ligue1 21/22 (20/21)

Departures: 272 (274)
Income: £331m (£336m)
Arrivals: 303 (299)
Transfer expenses: £355m (£400m)

Total balance -£24m (-£64m)

The numbers that matter aren’t included in the above figures and everything else in Ligue needs to be set in the context of Messi’s move to PSG.

The transfer is officially a “free transfer” because Messi was out of contract and no fee was due to Barcelona.  The signing on fee was reportedly €25m (£20m) and his annual salary is €84m (this is the gross figure rather than the widely reported net figure which was the number briefed by PSG to make the wages seem slightly less excessive).

The wages are more than the entire payrolls of nearly every other Ligue 1 club and the signing-on fee is greater than the net spend of all but Nice, Marseille and Rennes. 

 PSG also signed a bunch of other players including Ramos and Wijnaldum (also fee free) and spent the biggest single fee (£54m)  on a player when they bought in  Achraf Hakimi from Inter and without their activity Ligue 1 would have a £40m profit on transfers.

The French clubs with monied owners Rennes, Monaco Marseille, Nice and Troyes (part of the City group) spent every other club were net sellers. Lyon and defending champions Lille in particular let a lot of talent go. 

In the last 48 hours of the window there weren't huge numbers of deals and  Stade Rennais were at the centre of two of the most significant.  Eduardo Camavinga moving to Real Madrid for £28m. The 18 year old Central Midfielder is one of the hottest prospects in world football it will be hard for him to live up to the hype. The club quickly moved to pick up Centre Forward Gaëtan Laborde from Montpellier for £13m.

There are winners and losers down there and you don’t want to be on the wrong side of that line. Stade Rennais are on the right side of that line, Montpellier are not, they do inhabit two very different worlds and PSG live in a parallel universe where £1m a week footballers are a reality.


Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 11, 2021, 10:37:16 AM
Departures: 248 (256)
Income: £579m (£381m)
Arrivals: 248
Transfer expenses: £1,217m (£1,285m)

Total balance: £-638m (-£904m)

The biggest badass football league in the world, the EPL just dwarfs the rest when it comes to transfers.  The net spend of over £638m was more than the other 4 major leagues combined by a factor of five. That is how completely mental the market is.

The last 48 hours were typically busy. The noteworthy deals were as follows.

Ronaldo to Man U. If you can get past the hysteria you realise this is a great deal for Juventus who have got rid of the millstone of the Ronaldo contract and extricated themselves from one of the worst deals any club has ever struck for a player. Man United even paid a fee

West Ham did some of the business they needed to do bringing in Alex Kral initially on loan as another option in central midfield but instead of getting in a serviceable back up to Antonio  they spent £27m on Nikola Vlasic who is an excellent player but an attacking midfielder and the squad is already well stocked in that area

Chelsea strengthened further with the loan signing of Saul from Athletico

Brighton picked up two players who they did not seem to have any real need for, Marc Cucurella from Getafe and Abdallah Sima from Slavia Prague the latter was loaned straight out to Stoke. Yet seem to have left themselves a little light at Centre Back and maybe short of a Centre Forward like  Odsonne Edouard who joined arch rivals Crystal Palace for a reasonable fee of £14m.

Norwich, who have been one of the busier teams, secured the loan signing with an option to buy Ozan Kabak from Schalke. It was odd that he was one of the last players out of the door at Schalke given that he had arrived on loan at Liverpool last January to much fanfare. While he took a little bit of time to settle at Liverpool and didn’t quite live up to expectations I still think it is a fairly significant coup on Norwich’s part and a few teams further up the football hierarchy have missed a trick here.

Emerson Royal joined Spurs from Barcelona. With Spurs paying £25m to buy out everything which saw Barcelona book a nominal profit of £10m on the deal and complete the last somersault in the financial gymnastics routine which allowed them to register their new players for the La Liga deadline. About 20% of the fee has gone to Betis who had been the junior partner in a very complicated deal which brought the young Brazilian Right Back to Spain in 2019. 

Daniel James moved from Man United to Leeds for an initial £26m. Seems a bit of an overpay for a player whose Old Trafford career started brightly but ran out of steam lately. Long term target for the Yorkshire club will be interesting to see how he fits in. 

Finally Ademola Lookman is on the move again. Having looked bright in a poor Fulham team he joined Leicester on loan with an option to buy. If ever a young player just needed a home and an opportunity to play regularly it is Lookman who has changed clubs every summer for the last 4 years.

The window closed with a lot of unfinished business and various fan groups in meltdown mode on social media and I’m fairly sure a number of players who are not where they want to be . It is a function of inflated wages, inflated expectations and living with neighbours who are richer than God.   
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on September 13, 2021, 09:23:40 AM
And finally part 6 ...

The Championship.

21/22 (20/21)
 
Departures 303 (402)
Income: £112m (£316m)

Arrivals: 291 (341)
Transfer expenses: £43m (£67m)

Total balance: £69m (£249m)

Across Europe there has always been a point in the pyramid where you hit the no fee zone below which there aren’t fees nearly all transfers are either frees or loans with the occasional sale up the pyramid which keeps clubs afloat and might trigger the odd smallish fee being spent.

Nearly all the second tier competitions look like this: all the clubs not in European football in the smaller leagues and even the lesser lights in the big 5 leagues (other than the Premier League of course) are in that situation.  The pandemic has meant this line has started further up the pyramid and has clearly arrived in earnest in the Championship.

Some numbers, half the teams in the Division spent zero on permanent transfers. Fulham, who have the last owners prepared to bankroll their club and push the limits of FFP accounted for nearly 50% of the Division’s spend. There were only 3 transactions for more than £5m (Fulham accounted for 2 of them) The income from fees has also dried up falling from just over £300m last year to £100m this.

Eight clubs did have a net positive spend but aside from Fulham and Middlesbrough it was less than £2m. In the last two seasons 60 players have been axed from Championship squads.

Predictably there was very little activity in the last 48 hours of the window but these are deals that went through

Swansea got busy.  Michael Obafemi joined for £1.8m from Southampton I think they were asking for up to £10m last summer when we were rumoured to be interested. They picked up Nico Williams on loan from Liverpool and midfielder Oliver Ntcham on a free from Celtic. They also sold Connor Roberts to Burnley and Jamal Lowe to Bournemouth

Bournemouth paid £2.6m for Ryan Christie from Celtic this along with the Lowe deal (£1,5m) are the first fees the South Coast club has paid for permanent signings since relegation despite making in excess of £100m in sales.
 
Nathaniel Chalobah joined Fulham on a free. This is an interesting dynamic: the player had 12 months left on his contract and had been offered a new one on similar terms but had declined the deal. Watford chose to release him to Fulham who were quite literally the only Championship able to pick up his current wages and only if there was no fee. Downcycling players from the Premier League squad fringes into the Championship is a thing of the past. 

Domingos Quina also made the same journey from Herts to West London  on loan with an option to buy.

Watford continued to prune their squad moving Andre Gray to QPR on loan which is in effect a free transfer because his contract at Watford expires next summer

Stoke City made the second most expensive signing in the division by proxy bringing in right winger Abdallah Sima who Brighton had signed from Sparta Prague for £7m earlier on deadline day.

Sheffield United picked up Robin Olsen from Roma on loan and Gibbs-White from Wolves also on loan.

The loan deals for Andraz Sporar and James Léa Siliki from Sporting and Stade Rennais rounded out an interesting window for Middlesbrough who seem to be the only Championship club casting their net further afield. How effective it will be remains to be seen but both of their final day signings should be solid acquisitions at Championship level.

Welcome to year 2 of the new normal. Overall the quality and size of squads is down the wage bills are down but still have someway to go to hit the 50% reduction required to make the Championship sustainable 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on January 03, 2022, 07:57:36 PM
One of the more interesting signings of the season as Ricardo Pepi has signed for Augsberg. 18 year old USA International striker who has overtaken Dike as the "next big thing" US forward, he has 15 goals in the MLS already. A really exciting player worth monitoring this year.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on January 03, 2022, 08:35:35 PM
Pepi is 19 next week so a couple of years younger than Dike, but Dike has a better goal ratio in the MLS. There’s a 23 year old argentine at New York who is the other hot property in that league who guardiola has spoken about highly so it will be interesting to see how all three do. I’ve seen it said online that Dike is the better of the three so getting him for half the cost of one (and likely the other when he moves) looks good business. There’s an arrival about Dike and Pepi moving here: 

https://deadspin.com/the-fight-for-the-usmnt-s-9-spot-moves-to-the-european-1848294701/amp
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 04, 2022, 11:26:28 AM
Ethan Laird signing for Bournemouth on loan from Man Utd who loaned him to Swansea?!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 04, 2022, 12:18:55 PM
Everton signing Nathan Patterson for around £12m rising to £16m from Rangers.

Long term replacement for Seamus Coleman. Good signing that as he looks a fantastic footballer.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: bartleygreen baggie on January 11, 2022, 09:59:53 PM
Chris Wood off to Newcastle 25m!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on January 19, 2022, 03:13:51 PM
Sky Sports linking Luis Suarez to Villa, and according to reports in Spain, has turned down offers elsewhere to link up with Gerrard again and has already spoken to him.
If it happens, I'm sure Albion fans would be very fair and balanced in their treatment of him.  ;D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: KYA on January 19, 2022, 03:41:49 PM
Sky Sports linking Luis Suarez to Villa, and according to reports in Spain, has turned down offers elsewhere to link up with Gerrard again and has already spoken to him.
If it happens, I'm sure Albion fans would be very fair and balanced in their treatment of him.  ;D
Looks like Gerrard is after a quick fix first Coutinho and now Suarez he may not be a bad appointment after all if he blows a lot of cash on players whose valuation is on the decrease.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: bosh on January 19, 2022, 03:47:00 PM
Owners seem desperate to be seen as a potential top 6 side and buying / loaning players  post their best may look good on paper but won't work long term.  Going to be very expensive and I can't see the benefits from this tactic from a business or sensible point of view.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 21, 2022, 11:37:17 AM
#sufc winger Oli Burke has agreed to join #qpr on loan. Paperwork being completed.

Rob Dorsett
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: KYA on January 21, 2022, 11:42:43 AM
What a wasted career that lad is having.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 21, 2022, 12:26:34 PM
He's now amended it to signing for Millwall NOT QPR.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on January 21, 2022, 09:43:50 PM
Tottenham and Wolves have agreed a €24m fee for the transfer of Adama Traoré.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on January 22, 2022, 12:21:25 AM
He's now amended it to signing for Millwall NOT QPR.
First Zohore and now Burke joins Millwall.  Do I spot a trend?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 22, 2022, 08:41:38 AM
First Zohore and now Burke joins Millwall.  Do I spot a trend?

Hope so. They can have Hugill as well!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on January 22, 2022, 08:43:55 AM
Tottenham and Wolves have agreed a €24m fee for the transfer of Adama Traoré.

Bergwin is better and they seem to want him out. Don’t understand some clubs at times.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 22, 2022, 11:07:54 PM
The Sun is saying Bournemouth want Andy Carroll on a free.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on January 23, 2022, 01:37:59 PM
The Sun is saying Bournemouth want Andy Carroll on a free.
On the basis of what he recently showed for Reading, they are welcome to him.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on January 23, 2022, 03:48:14 PM
On the basis of what he recently showed for Reading, they are welcome to him.

Based on that game he's got the makings of a half decent centre back.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 25, 2022, 01:21:04 PM
Pete O'Rourke
@SportsPeteO
Burnley closing in on the signing of Croatian international Mislav Orsic from Dinamo Zagreb in £7m deal. #BurnleyFC #TwitterClarets #dinamozagreb


Remember him?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 25, 2022, 04:35:19 PM
Bournemouth in for Tom Lawrence at Derby according to SSN.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on January 25, 2022, 11:14:29 PM
Bournemouth in for Tom Lawrence at Derby according to SSN.
I'll be well hacked off if one of our main rivals picks him up on the cheap.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on January 26, 2022, 12:32:09 PM
I'll be well hacked off if one of our main rivals picks him up on the cheap.
Ditto, he could be a good signing, age is not great but .....
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on January 26, 2022, 05:14:41 PM
The difference between us and Bournemouth, they have a Transfer Budget
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: wbastrollers on January 26, 2022, 07:00:40 PM
Pete O'Rourke
@SportsPeteO
Burnley closing in on the signing of Croatian international Mislav Orsic from Dinamo Zagreb in £7m deal. #BurnleyFC #TwitterClarets #dinamozagreb


Remember him?

Didn’t we try to sign him 3 years ago? When Bilic was here.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 26, 2022, 07:01:23 PM
Didn’t we try to sign him 3 years ago? When Bilic was here.

Yes, summer 2020 when we went into PL. Be interesting to see how he does. He was highly rated.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 27, 2022, 08:40:53 PM
The vile have signed Callum Chambers from Arsenal
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: royhan on January 28, 2022, 07:51:39 PM
Louise Barry, yes him the mercenary with more interest in money than a football career, has joined Swindon until the end of the season. He’d probably be a regular with us if he’d had his head turned.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on January 29, 2022, 08:59:52 PM
Louise Barry, yes him the mercenary with more interest in money than a football career, has joined Swindon until the end of the season. He’d probably be a regular with us if he’d had his head turned.

Doubt it. Rico Richards career has stalled and despite back to back MoTM performances, TGH gets the occasional sub appearance now.

Sam Field is first team for 4th placed QPR.

There is zero evidence of youth getting sustained chances here. Maybe that will change where we're heading in the next few years.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 29, 2022, 09:15:41 PM
Traore from Wolves gone back to Barca on loan with option to buy for 30m!!! Mental
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2022, 08:21:03 PM
Middlesborough trying to sign Jeff Hendrick on loan. He'd do well at this level surely.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on January 30, 2022, 08:30:55 PM
Phil Jones' move to Bordeaux is currently OFF. He wasn't assured of the playing time he wanted.

Hmm 🤔
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on January 30, 2022, 09:51:05 PM
Newcastle United are thrilled to announce the signing of Bruno Guimarães from Olympique Lyonnais on a four-and-a-half year deal.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 31, 2022, 09:06:51 AM
Bournemouth are closing in on Cardiff City striker Kieffer Moore after agreeing fee in region of £3.5m. #afcb #CardiffCity #DeadlineDay
O'Rourke
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: tommcneill on January 31, 2022, 10:11:16 AM
Bournemouth are closing in on Cardiff City striker Kieffer Moore after agreeing fee in region of £3.5m. #afcb #CardiffCity #DeadlineDay
O'Rourke

Also closing in on Todd Cantwell according to reports.

Cantwell would be a good addition here
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on January 31, 2022, 11:07:24 AM
I don't know why given these players could increase their chances of promotion, but I feel it would be spectacularly funny if it all went splat at Bournemouth. That's right, yes I do know why.

They massively overspent on their way to promotion last time and got away with a fine that was easily payable given the wealth of their ownership allied to Prem TV income. Fall by the wayside now and the fallout could make for interesting viewing from afar.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: KYA on January 31, 2022, 11:22:06 AM
Luton Town was trying to sign Palmer from the Albion this apparently is not going to happen and they have switched attention to a villa goalkeeper, I wonder if anything is happening on the Johnstone front?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 31, 2022, 11:55:09 AM
Also closing in on Todd Cantwell according to reports.

Cantwell would be a good addition here

Doesnt Cantwel play out wide a lot or am I getting mixed up?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: tommcneill on January 31, 2022, 12:06:48 PM
Doesnt Cantwel play out wide a lot or am I getting mixed up?

Ive always seen him as a CAM myself, but can play out wide. Think as a link between midfield and attack he would be good. As would Ross Barkley.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 31, 2022, 12:07:44 PM
Ive always seen him as a CAM myself, but can play out wide. Think as a link between midfield and attack he would be good. As would Ross Barkley.

Again I agree we need someone else in there but Val doesn't see it that way sadly
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on January 31, 2022, 12:28:08 PM
I think it was reported Villa paysomething like £100k a week in wages as well as a £10m loan fee for Barkley.

Pie in the sky that he'd turn up here.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 31, 2022, 12:39:31 PM
I think it was reported Villa paysomething like £100k a week in wages as well as a £10m loan fee for Barkley.

Pie in the sky that he'd turn up here.

Barkley cost them £15m for the season in total, yep.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: tuamigos on January 31, 2022, 01:12:12 PM
Barkley cost them £15m for the season in total, yep.

Tell them if he comes here for the rest of the season for free, we'll forget the Louie Barry saga.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 31, 2022, 01:30:30 PM
Tell them if he comes here for the rest of the season for free, we'll forget the Louie Barry saga.

I already have to be fair, think we have just got used to getting shafted with the kids at this point in time.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: phbaggies on January 31, 2022, 04:02:14 PM
Can't believe the Dele Alli deal, free transfer until he plays 20 games, then just £10m after that. If Everton can get a tune out of him again that's an absolute snip!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 31, 2022, 04:04:38 PM
Can't believe the Dele Alli deal, free transfer until he plays 20 games, then just £10m after that. If Everton can get a tune out of him again that's an absolute snip!

Good deal to be fair.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on January 31, 2022, 04:24:15 PM
Looks like Bournmouth are signing Cantwell, Siriki Dembele, Freddie Woodman and Nat Philips. 

I'd say that is them wrapping up second if they can all four done. Apart from Dembele who is a bit of an unknown at this level, the other 3 should be fantastic signings and would walk in to pretty much every side in the division.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 31, 2022, 06:15:43 PM
Why has Cantwell fallen out of favour at Norwich?

He was very much sought after nearly 18 months ago.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: KYA on January 31, 2022, 06:21:53 PM
Looks like Bournmouth are signing Cantwell, Siriki Dembele, Freddie Woodman and Nat Philips. 

I'd say that is them wrapping up second if they can all four done. Apart from Dembele who is a bit of an unknown at this level, the other 3 should be fantastic signings and would walk in to pretty much every side in the division.
Bournemouth after six players and so far have landed two we couldn't have competed with that level of signings.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: seteefeet on January 31, 2022, 06:48:05 PM
Breaking News: Dwight Gayle left out of Newcastle's 25 man squad, sparking interest from Championship clubs. Apparently we are not one of them, however, with Forest most likely.

Nice

I'd say it feels like every time we get up we get knocked down again, but, in all honesty, it feels like we've been counted out.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 31, 2022, 06:50:25 PM
Breaking News: Dwight Gayle left out of Newcastle's 25 man squad, sparking interest from Championship clubs. Apparently we are not one of them, however, with Forest most likely.

Nice

I'd say it feels like every time we get up we get knocked down again, but, in all honesty, it feels like we've been counted out.

Twitter rumours are he's available on a free or very cheap.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on January 31, 2022, 08:00:00 PM
Would love Bournemouth to fail but it's some interesting spending. Nine strike me as being good enough in the premier league, so that's a risk, but they are building a very good championship side. It does feel all a bit trolley dash though.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on January 31, 2022, 09:36:46 PM
Rekeem Harper has really stunk the place out at Ipswich hasn't he, he has already moved on loan to relegation battlers Crewe after only half a season at league 1 level. So much talent, quick, rangey, great ball striker and decent range of passing. Just seems to lack any drive or aggression (or is that confidence in himself).

While not transfer relayed, Kyle Edwards is also now an unused sub only. I'm more surprised by that, he looked electric last season in the league cup vs Harrogate. I though the step down a level would allow him to be his mercurial self with the odd exciting showing but if he isn't even being used as a super sub it's bad news. Hope he gets back on track, I do have a soft spot for him.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SC_Baggie on January 31, 2022, 10:52:46 PM
Cantwell to Bournemouth
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 31, 2022, 11:16:16 PM
Rangers signing Aaron Ramsey. Loan with option to buy. Incredible signing really.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on February 01, 2022, 12:15:04 AM
Aaron Ramsey to Rangers was the signing that I thought was going to shock me the most - a player premier league clubs would have no doubt been all over. Possibly a sign that Scottish football is back on the UK and that the Old Firm can once again compete in the window with the lower half of the premier league.

It was the signing that was going to shock me the most. Then I saw Matty Longstaff - the same Matty Longstaff who 2 years ago was an England youth International scoring worldies vs Man Utd in the premier league - had signed for league 2 Mansfield Town. Surely he was worth a punt by a side at league 1 level?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on February 01, 2022, 08:03:38 AM
From reports at the time he was on a fair old wedge when he went abroad. I'd be very interested to know what he's on wages wise at Rangers.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on February 01, 2022, 08:52:22 AM
From reports at the time he was on a fair old wedge when he went abroad. I'd be very interested to know what he's on wages wise at Rangers.

Heavily, heavily subsidised by Juve. Rangers have paid a loan fee of around £2m with Juve covering remaining wages. Ramsey has a clause in his contract that would have triggered an extension hence their keenness to get him shifted.

Well worth the gamble with the potential windfall at the end of this season.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on February 01, 2022, 09:05:01 AM
Heavily, heavily subsidised by Juve. Rangers have paid a loan fee of around £2m with Juve covering remaining wages. Ramsey has a clause in his contract that would have triggered an extension hence their keenness to get him shifted.

Well worth the gamble with the potential windfall at the end of this season.

Fair play then. Could be a genuine asset. Technically gifted. Should, and I stress should, give a much better showing than Joey 'best player in the division' Barton did anyway (cue Liam breaking out in hives  ;D ).
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2022, 09:14:51 AM
Cantwell to Bournemouth

Just read an article on it in Atheltic.Have to pay his wages in full and if Cherries go up and Cantwell plays his part they are obligated to pay just over 10m.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on February 01, 2022, 09:16:36 AM
Just read an article on it in Atheltic.Have to pay his wages in full and if Cherries go up and Cantwell plays his part they are obligated to pay just over 10m.

Bournemouth. Financial doping. Again. Rinse. Repeat.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on February 01, 2022, 01:24:58 PM
Fair play then. Could be a genuine asset. Technically gifted. Should, and I stress should, give a much better showing than Joey 'best player in the division' Barton did anyway (cue Liam breaking out in hives  ;D ).

I had erased that particular era from the memory bank.

Tbh, I tend to erase most of my life from the memory bank at the moment  ;D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on May 11, 2022, 05:37:08 PM
And so it begins. The first big move of the summer Haarland to Man City for the release clause of around €60m which seems really low considering his record and given Man City spent over a £100m on a back up to Phil Foden. However those "close to the deal" confirm at least as much is going to the agent and the player's father.

So let's call the fee what it is €120m. That is a hell of a lot of money and not quiet the bargain City fans are crowing about on social media. He will of course just slot into the Man City machine (no he doesn't equal x goals) but will no doubt score 20 plus goals but I doubt that they will be goals that City wouldn't have scored without him.   
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: bosh on May 11, 2022, 06:37:48 PM
Taken from the telegraph.

£64 fee mentioned as the release clause.

"Haaland, 21, is expected to put pen to paper on a five-year contract worth around £107million, including signing-on bonuses. It is understood the overall cost of the deal could reach £213million once sums to agents, representatives and other assorted fees worth up to £42million are factored in."

Not a bad business to be involved in.


Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: baggie53 on May 11, 2022, 07:21:54 PM
Taken from the telegraph.

£64 fee mentioned as the release clause.

"Haaland, 21, is expected to put pen to paper on a five-year contract worth around £107million, including signing-on bonuses. It is understood the overall cost of the deal could reach £213million once sums to agents, representatives and other assorted fees worth up to £42million are factored in."

Not a bad business to be involved in.

I think even the Baggies could afford this fee, not the rest of it though  :D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Adder on May 11, 2022, 08:05:58 PM
I guess the big thing for City is, will Haaland increase their threat and get out of jail ability in the elite games where they may have spells when they are not controlling things as much as they usually do i.e. prem top 2 or 3 or champions league knockouts.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on May 11, 2022, 08:50:10 PM
He is an absolute beast because of his size and power. But seems to get injured a lot.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on May 11, 2022, 09:53:05 PM
The injuries could just be down to youth and size . He has to grow into that body yet
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on May 22, 2022, 04:21:47 PM
"Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Boubacar Kamara to Aston Villa, done deal. Full agreement reached on a five year deal, valid until June 2027. Medical, official signature & club statement pending. 🚨🇫🇷 #AVFC

Steven Gerrard was key to explain the project and get the green light from Kamara on a free transfer."
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on May 23, 2022, 03:43:40 PM
Everton trying to persuade Tarkowski to go to them and not Villa according to Percy

"John Percy Retweeted
Telegraph Football
Exclusive: Everton make move to try to beat Aston Villa to signing of James Tarkowski / @Matt_Law_DT& @JPercyTelegraph report"
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on May 23, 2022, 09:11:42 PM
One of Burnleys better players maxwel Cornet is rumured to have 17.5m release clause. Can see him being snapped up at that price.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Topman on May 23, 2022, 09:19:56 PM
"Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Boubacar Kamara to Aston Villa, done deal. Full agreement reached on a five year deal, valid until June 2027. Medical, official signature & club statement pending. 🚨🇫🇷 #AVFC

Steven Gerrard was key to explain the project and get the green light from Kamara on a free transfer."





Listening to villa fans today on wm they think they have won the league with this signing. I’ve never heard of him but villa fans going mad
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on May 23, 2022, 09:59:34 PM
Our friends in Witton are an excitable bunch and generally I take great pleasure in mocking them. However I think the signing Boubacar Kamara is a genuine coupe for Villa. He is young and possibly the best DM in Ligue 1. I am genuinely surprised that somebody further up the food chain hasn't snapped him up,  quite easily a Champions League level talent.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on May 23, 2022, 10:49:38 PM
I guess the big thing for City is, will Haaland increase their threat and get out of jail ability in the elite games where they may have spells when they are not controlling things as much as they usually do i.e. prem top 2 or 3 or champions league knockouts.

Bit late to the Haaland convo but from what I’ve seen of him the closest comparison in the league is Lukaku. He will get goals as anyone playing up front for city should, but I don’t think he’s a typical guardiola player. He’s very untidy, has a loose first touch and is still very raw. I think he’s going to frustrate a lot and he may not be the instant 20 goal a season striker many think he is.

City signed another highly rated young striker in Jan who stayed on loan in Argentina though and between the two you’d think they will add a lot more goals.


Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on May 24, 2022, 10:26:58 AM
Our friends in Witton........

Speak for yourself. And once you've finished apply a thick lather of carbolic to your tongue and scrub vigorously with a harsh brush. You're welcome  ;D .
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on May 24, 2022, 03:11:24 PM
Bit late to the Haaland convo but from what I’ve seen of him the closest comparison in the league is Lukaku. He will get goals as anyone playing up front for city should, but I don’t think he’s a typical guardiola player. He’s very untidy, has a loose first touch and is still very raw. I think he’s going to frustrate a lot and he may not be the instant 20 goal a season striker many think he is.
I think City fans will idolise Haaland, as he gives them raw physicality which is not so typical for their forwards. But he seems to get injured a lot.
Seems a generous bloke as he bought Rolexes as a parting gift for all the Borussia Dortmund players and staff.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on May 24, 2022, 03:16:32 PM
I think City fans will idolise Haaland, as he gives them raw physicality which is not so typical for their forwards. But he seems to get injured a lot.
Seems a generous bloke as he bought Rolexes as a parting gift for all the Borussia Dortmund players and staff.

For 33 players and 20 behind the scenes members of staff, all personalised. Can you see a Rolex sponsorship deal on the horizon? He'd definitely get one if I were his agent  ;D .
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on May 30, 2022, 08:53:06 PM
Ivan Perisic has passed his Tottenham medical and signed his contract. Everything is complete. “Here we go”.

(Source: @FabrizioRomano)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on May 30, 2022, 09:16:19 PM
Romelu Lukaku’s lawyer will be in Milan tomorrow to meet with #Inter.

[via @FBiasin]
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on May 30, 2022, 09:53:49 PM
Peresic is 33 now. Feels a bit old to be moving to the English top flight knowing how we play the game. Always liked him and felt he could have been a great player but surely he is arriving too late now to be a big success. Happy to be mistaken.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on May 30, 2022, 11:10:44 PM
Robert Lewandowski announces he wants out of the final year of his contract at Bayern Munich. Even at 33 that should spark a scramble for his services. Posted that here 'cause he ay comin'. Well...... I doubt it anyway.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: zippyandbungle on May 30, 2022, 11:13:10 PM
Robert Lewandowski announces he wants out of the final year of his contract at Bayern Munich. Even at 33 that should spark a scramble for his services. Posted that here 'cause he ay comin'. Well...... I doubt it anyway.
Although….if we could get him to visit the Vine ?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on May 30, 2022, 11:14:46 PM
Although….if we could get him to visit the Vine ?

He definitely wouldn't want to stay if he had the balti.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on June 01, 2022, 01:56:50 PM
The annual transfer merry-go-round is underway. I will write a few posts the frequency of which will increase as the window progresses.

I expect the trends of the last few years will continue. The rich (Premier League clubs plus those with Champions League Football) will continue to spend money like drunken sailors on shore leave and like said marinated mariners will in many instances largely waste their money. They will overpay to pick up players that don’t fit their tactical profile and at the same time unload last season’s mistakes.

England’s Dreaming

The one deal everybody wanted has landed in the Premier League.

May has just not finished and the most expensive and significant deal might have already been completed, Erling Haaland from Dortmund to Man City for a reported fee in the region of £67m which may be matched by fees to various agents. Bolting on the phenomenal scoring talents of the young Norwegian to the Man City machine would if you listened to the more excitable pundits leaves everybody else chasing runners up in any competition City enter. Football does not work like that.

Georgia’s On My mind

There aren’t too many Georgian footballers that have graced the Premier League I can only think of 2, Temur Ketsbaia and Georgi Kinkladze (not strictly true I remembered the bald bloke that played for Newcastle who wrecked an advertising hoarding in a goal celebration (Ketsbaia) and wondered if Kinkadze was Georgian turns out he was). It’s not a nation that has a rich seam of talent. 

When Khvicha Kvaratskhelia (genuine Georgian wonderkid) got transferred from Rubin Kazan to Dinamo Batumi for £7m in March this being a Georgian record transfer (Georgian transfer fees are normally measured in Goats) one might have smelt a small rodent. When same player gets transferred to Napoli for £9m less than 2 months later one might just wonder if everything is above board (you know with sanctions and things like that)

Let’s Talk about the Seals

Because they have been clapping their flippers and blowing their trumpet in a desperate attempt to get our attention. They have been the busiest of the Premier League clubs with 3 confirmed incoming deals. 

They have completed the Coutinho deal which was part of the loan deal. To be fair he has played regularly but the output wasn’t stellar quite what that is worth going forward really not sure. . They have landed  Boubacar Kamara from Marseille, one of the best free agents that have come to market this window and probably one of the best young DM’s in Europe.

Then there is Diego Carlos from Sevilla for £27m. There is no doubting his quality but at 29 this is late in a career to be moving leagues. Villa have a lot of Centre Halves however, well a lot of players in general. There are layers of players who have been bought and replaced without well actually leaving the club. Wesley is still on their books and he has been replaced by Watkins and Ings (except Ings didn’t actually replace Watkins but nor did he really work with him either)

Villa keep winning the transfer window while loitering in the bottom half of the league.

Red Bull Gives you wings

I know I am supposed to hate all things Red Bull (Salzberg/Leipzig) but you have to marvel at how they develop talent and populate the top five leagues. They are at it again. Dortmund returned to RB Salzberg to buy Centre Forward Karim Adeyemi for a fee of £27m.  Leeds United have swooped for young American attacking midfielder Brenden Aaronson for £25m.

Meanwhile in Paris…

PSG have spent the GDP of a small African nation to secure the services of Mbappe but still have a few euros left over to make Nuno Mendes move from Sporting permanent for £36m. Whatever boys stroll to the Ligue 1 title lose in the quarter finals of the Champions League rinse and repeat.

So it begins…
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on June 01, 2022, 07:54:53 PM
Done Deal!

vile announcement

Aston Villa is delighted to confirm the transfer of Diego Carlos from Sevilla FC for an undisclosed fee!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: MarkW on June 01, 2022, 10:37:33 PM
Pogba and Lingard are leaving United, apparently.

Lingard is asking for £150k p/w, which is ridiculous
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on June 01, 2022, 11:11:03 PM
Man Utd paid a fee to Le Harve for Paul Pogba then lost him on a free to Juventus. They then spent £90m to get him back and now he leaves for free once again. The perfect metaphor for Man Utd in the Glazer era.

Losing Lingard for free this summer having barely used him last season is also typical of a club who haven’t a clue what they are doing, especially as they had a seemingly willing bidder in West Ham.

I’m intrigued by Villa’s business so far, I think getting it done early is always a good sign but then for every brilliant move Johan Lange makes there (Kamara from Marseille on a free transfer being roundly heralded as a spectacular piece of business by those who follow French football), he also disappoints you with moves like Carlos from Sevilla. As Stan says, it’s spending the best part of £30m to buy a player who isn’t far off turning 30, a year after they spent a similar fee to sign a similarly aged Danny Ings.

Maybe the end game is to combine these top 10 level senior players with their exciting academy kids (the Ramsey brothers, Ireogbunam, Barry, Archer, Chukwuemka if he stays and Philogene-Bidace), but even then Villa are spending money as if they think they have a genuine chance of crashing the Champions League party, ignoring the fact that the “big 6” is about to become the big 7 when Newcastle flex their petro dollars. I just don’t see the end game, surely it would be more sensible to do it the Leicester way instead of signing so many established names on huge fees.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on June 02, 2022, 09:18:57 AM
Inter Milan have reached an agreement with Romelu Lukaku for around a salary of €7.5M. The player's lawyer now has 15 days to convince Chelsea to accept the loan formula.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on June 02, 2022, 10:35:51 AM
Big Rom still loves The Baggies can't we hijack the move I'd love him back
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: zippyandbungle on June 02, 2022, 04:32:02 PM
Big Rom still loves The Baggies can't we hijack the move I'd love him back
I think you mean he loves “maccies” there’s no way he is faster than Jordan Hugill 😂😂
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on June 02, 2022, 05:25:35 PM
I think you mean he lives “maccies” there’s no way he is faster than Jordan Hugill 😂😂
He still mentions us from time in a Positive Way he would be better than Zohore though. Maybe Grant with Bruce I wouldn't be certain defiantly better than Zohore though
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on June 02, 2022, 07:09:11 PM
Ben Mee and James Tarkowski both leaving Burnley as free agents. In one sense, it works for Burnley as you would imagine Vincent Kompany would want defenders who xan play our from the back, but to lose 2 premier league defenders on free transfers feels like awful planning, especially as they have so many other free agents leaving ad well.

A huge rebuilding job there and not many funds.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: zippyandbungle on June 02, 2022, 08:50:21 PM
Ben Mee and James Tarkowski both leaving Burnley as free agents. In one sense, it works for Burnley as you would imagine Vincent Kompany would want defenders who xan play our from the back, but to lose 2 premier league defenders on free transfers feels like awful planning, especially as they have so many other free agents leaving ad well.

A huge rebuilding job there and not many funds.
But they can have their pick of citeh reserves.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 09, 2022, 07:45:07 AM
Lenihan close to signing for Boro
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 10, 2022, 01:01:15 PM
Wolves are in talks with Sporting to sign João Palhinha as new midfielder. Negotiations ongoing as reported by @Record_Portugal, price tag €20m. 🇵🇹 #transfers

Discussions ongoing about payment terms, Bruno Lage wants João. Work in progress.


Romano
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 11, 2022, 05:38:20 PM
Richarlison rumoured to signing for Spurs from Everton.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Atomic on June 11, 2022, 05:44:07 PM
Wolves are in talks with Sporting to sign João Palhinha as new midfielder. Negotiations ongoing as reported by @Record_Portugal, price tag €20m. 🇵🇹 #transfers

Discussions ongoing about payment terms, Bruno Lage wants João. Work in progress.


Romano

They might as well just move the Custard Bowl to Lisbon.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on June 11, 2022, 08:30:53 PM
That’s not very fair on the Portuguese!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: zippyandbungle on June 11, 2022, 10:07:11 PM
That’s not very fair on the Portuguese!
Or us, why should we have to go all that way to put 5 past em?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on June 13, 2022, 12:00:41 PM
Breaking: Danish star Eriksen decides to leave Brentford
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on June 13, 2022, 02:02:48 PM
Robert Lewandowski has agreed a three-year contract on around £175,000-a-week with Barcelona, worth £27m in total.

(Source: @MundoDeportivo)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: bosh on June 13, 2022, 02:43:07 PM
And yet Barcelona can't pay two weeks wages to pay what they owe for Barry.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on June 13, 2022, 03:06:14 PM
And yet Barcelona can't pay two weeks wages to pay what they owe for Barry.

You might find the article in the link below enlightening

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/louie-barry-villa-barcelona-albion-22049088
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: bosh on June 13, 2022, 04:24:59 PM
You might find the article in the link below enlightening

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/louie-barry-villa-barcelona-albion-22049088

Well, that is disappointing. Stupid from our side, just predatory from Barcelona and expected behaviour from the smelly seals down the road.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 13, 2022, 04:28:04 PM
Yes I believe Barca owe us nothing due to our incompetence
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Adder on June 14, 2022, 07:18:56 AM
Robert Lewandowski has agreed a three-year contract on around £175,000-a-week with Barcelona, worth £27m in total.

(Source: @MundoDeportivo)
That actually sounds a bargain on wages in comparison to other deals.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on June 14, 2022, 07:40:21 AM
Robert Lewandowski has agreed a three-year contract on around £175,000-a-week with Barcelona, worth £27m in total.

(Source: @MundoDeportivo)

They've been linked with Salah for a while too. Amazing really given how much money they owe other clubs in transfer fees etc. Football finance stinks like raw sewage.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on June 14, 2022, 10:12:40 AM
 BREAKING: Tottenham have agreed a fee of around £25m for Brighton midfielder Yves Bissouma.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on June 14, 2022, 05:52:15 PM
𝐁𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐊𝐈𝐍𝐆: Paul Pogba's move to Juventus is now FULLY AGREED. The finishing touches to the contract have been applied.

Announcement in July.

(Source: @romeoagresti)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on June 14, 2022, 06:28:24 PM
𝐁𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐊𝐈𝐍𝐆: Paul Pogba's move to Juventus is now FULLY AGREED. The finishing touches to the contract have been applied.

Announcement in July.

(Source: @romeoagresti)

Talking of raw sewage.... Pogba's reported attitude stank of it as well. Talented player and a multimillionaire with medals around his neck. Could have achieved far more if he'd put as much effort into his football over the last few years as he did with his haircuts and attention seeking social media emojis.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on June 14, 2022, 07:09:21 PM
𝐃𝐄𝐀𝐋 𝐃𝐎𝐍𝐄: Liverpool have announced the signing of Darwin Núñez from Benfica. Initial €75m fee, with achievable add-ons amounting to €25m. €100m total.

The Uruguayan has penned a 6-year contract. 🇺🇾💰 #DarwinDay

(Source: @LFC)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on June 15, 2022, 03:39:01 PM
Nottingham Forest have reached an agreement with Dean Henderson over personal terms ahead of a potential loan move from Manchester United.

Wonder if they will offload Brice Samba?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 15, 2022, 04:00:13 PM
Nottingham Forest have reached an agreement with Dean Henderson over personal terms ahead of a potential loan move from Manchester United.

Wonder if they will offload Brice Samba?

He wants out. Rejected new deal
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 15, 2022, 04:12:40 PM
Hmmm that means they can't re-loan Garner again surely? Hmm
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on June 15, 2022, 07:50:53 PM
Hull have bid £3m for Twine apparently. We should be all over that, even with Swift signed.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on June 16, 2022, 02:57:46 PM
John Percy re-Tweeted Mike McGrath @mcgrathmike

#Stoke set to sign Josh Laurent as a free agent after the midfielder's departure from #Reading. Final parts of deal to be completed in the coming days or next week #SCFC #ReadingFC #Royals
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 18, 2022, 09:32:16 AM
Pete O'Rourke
@SportsPeteO
Middlesbrough are in talks to sign Wolves winger Ryan Giles on loan. #boro #wwfc
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 19, 2022, 09:28:50 AM
Blackburn in for Todd Cantwell apparently.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 19, 2022, 01:48:38 PM
Chelsea want Raheem Sterling. Citeh want £60m for him.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gerry m on June 19, 2022, 02:29:25 PM
He wants out. Rejected new deal

Don't know the real story there but am surprised..
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 19, 2022, 02:34:31 PM
Don't know the real story there but am surprised..

They offered him a new deal but on the same wages he was on in the EFL. He said he felt dsirespected by that which i can understand.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 20, 2022, 01:28:08 PM
#nffc are close to making Taiwo Awoniyi their first major summer signing in a club record £17.5m deal. Growing confidence on Mainz centre-back Moussa Niakhatè but competition from Fulham for Liverpool defender Neco Williams https://t.co/mtHpk6LU8N
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on June 20, 2022, 03:22:04 PM
#nffc are close to making Taiwo Awoniyi their first major summer signing in a club record £17.5m deal. Growing confidence on Mainz centre-back Moussa Niakhatè but competition from Fulham for Liverpool defender Neco Williams https://t.co/mtHpk6LU8N

I seem to remember we were linked with Awoniyi last year for about £6m. No idea how true it was but I remember thinking it seemed a steep and that it had the usual Liverpool mark up for a player who had done very little.

Obviously I was wrong. He's gone on to have a great season in the Bundesliga.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 20, 2022, 04:13:29 PM
I seem to remember we were linked with Awoniyi last year for about £6m. No idea how true it was but I remember thinking it seemed a steep and that it had the usual Liverpool mark up for a player who had done very little.

Obviously I was wrong. He's gone on to have a great season in the Bundesliga.

He's done really well in all fairness to him!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 20, 2022, 10:26:40 PM
Burnley have now bid for Twine according to Nixon
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: skyclad99 on June 21, 2022, 08:34:44 AM
Burnley have now bid for Twine according to Nixon

Another club who play in claret and blue incapable of identifying their own targets......
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: phbaggies on June 21, 2022, 04:30:04 PM
England goalkeeper Sam Johnstone has agreed a four-year deal with Crystal Palace.

The 29-year-old will join the Eagles on a free transfer after his contract with Championship club West Bromwich Albion expires at the end of June.

(BBC Sport)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: smethwickw on June 21, 2022, 05:12:53 PM
England goalkeeper Sam Johnstone has agreed a four-year deal with Crystal Palace.

The 29-year-old will join the Eagles on a free transfer after his contract with Championship club West Bromwich Albion expires at the end of June.

(BBC Sport)

A Crystal Palace number 2. This says a lot for me.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 21, 2022, 06:16:50 PM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Newcastle and Burnley have reached verbal agreement for Nick Pope, here we go. Deal in place, as first called by @LukeEdwardsTele
 - now waiting for paperworks to be signed soon. ⚪️🤝 #NUFC

Nick Pope has agreed personal terms with Newcastle, medical to be scheduled soon.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on June 21, 2022, 06:42:40 PM
Cayley Woodrow has signed for Luton. Feel like he could do well there.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on June 21, 2022, 06:51:30 PM
Freddie Woodman has signed for Preston too. He’s looked good when I’ve seen him. Would have been one I’d have looked had we been iafter a keeper.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: costa blanca baggie on June 21, 2022, 08:57:13 PM
A Crystal Palace number 2. This says a lot for me.
I agree. His barely deserved glory days are over. Good shot stopper though.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on June 21, 2022, 09:32:23 PM
A Crystal Palace number 2. This says a lot for me.

Probably lined up as number 1 - the current incumbent is 35 isn't he? About his level though, he would never have been a fixture at Spurs or United.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on June 21, 2022, 09:35:06 PM
Liverpool strike again. Pay £7.25m for a 24 year old, use him sparsely for 2 and a half years (including sending him on loan where they probably made about £1m quid or more) and now they are selling him to Monaco for over £15m aged 27.

Do not do business with Liverpool!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on June 23, 2022, 06:10:06 AM
No decision due imminently from Gareth Bale, but he has had his first round of talks with Cardiff City about a move to the championship. 11 goals in his last Premier Leagur season 2 years ago and still turns up for Wales in key international games with impressive regularity, it could be a hell of a signing for a Championship side. The only question would be how to manage a 33 year old who hasn't played a full season of regular football in years.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on June 23, 2022, 06:20:34 AM
Welcome to the Liverpool Machine

Liverpool are looking like a well oiled machine.

A very obvious challenge for them 3 years ago was given Firmino, Salah and Mane are all of similar age they would all need replacing around the same time and their contracts expired in 2023.. Nunez’s arrival from Benfica  for £67m completes the process, which started in earnest with Jota and continued with Dias.

They have sold Mane to Bayern for £27m which is pretty decent for a player entering the latter years of his career . Salah may yet sign an extension but Liverpool aren’t busting their pay structure to keep him and Firmino will be getting less minutes this season.

Not only is the forethought here the trading of fringe players many of whom really have not improved as Liverpool players is equally impressive  Takumi Minamino is latest to be sold on for a profit as he completes a move to Monaco after a little over 2 years.

Buyer beware when dealing with Liverpool

Is the Bayern machine kaputt?

If not broken, misfiring a little. Bayern still  seem preeminent  and continue to pick up talent like Ryan Gravenberch who arrives from Ajax with a burgeoning reputation. Equally they are probably the only German club that could sign Mane at £27m However there is disquiet behind the scenes players are accusing the hierarchy of being high handed and they are losing talent as a consequence. It is rumored that Lewandowski wants out (one to watch unfold across the window) and they have lost Shule to arch rivals Dortmund on a free. 

Whether this really dents Bayern’s prospects remains to be seen and a lot hinges on Dortmund and how they adapt to the post Haaland world. In a slightly counter intuitive way they needed to reinforce defensively, they conceded too many goals (the most in the top half of the Bundesliga) last season. Along with the signing of Shule they have paid £18m for young Centre Back  Nico Schlotterbeck from Freiburg. If this stems the tide of goals conceded they can look forward to higher points total and Germany might get a closer title race.

Super League Elite continue to hoard talent part 101.

Real Madrid are starting to rebuild their midfield and 2nd part of that rebuild is Tchouameni for an eye watering £70m from Monaco. Exactly how it works tactically for Real is anybody’s guess but they just give Anclotti a bunch of talent and somehow he performs a strange alchemy and gets something functioning on the pitch.

Spurs have signed Bousma from Brighton for £25m. He becomes just one of many options at Spurs; it denudes Brighton of a key player. Unless teams like Brighton and Monaco can hold onto their talent they will never close the gap. The Elite’s money strangles competition. 

Championship Corner

The Championship free market is interesting, as clubs continue to tighten their belts a lot of players are being released and I suspect back filled with cheaper players. Cardiff have traded heavily in the market with 8 new recruits already following the release of 5 players.

Luton have picked up Cauley Woodrow from Barnsley which is one of the very few Championship transfers to involve a fee to date

Ex-Baggies on the Move


The following have been released

Charlie Austin  QPR
Joe Mattock Rotherham
Ben Foster Watford
Izzy Brown Preston

Kane Wilson has joined Bristol City form Forest Green Rovers
And  finally Yan Dhanda leaves Swansea to join Ross County on a free. 
.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Adder on June 23, 2022, 07:26:30 AM
No decision due imminently from Gareth Bale, but he has had his first round of talks with Cardiff City about a move to the championship. 11 goals in his last Premier Leagur season 2 years ago and still turns up for Wales in key international games with impressive regularity, it could be a hell of a signing for a Championship side. The only question would be how to manage a 33 year old who hasn't played a full season of regular football in years.
Yes it's going to be an interesting one this, not least on how they are going to make it work financially. It goes without saying that Bale's days of 600k per week are over. From the Welsh team point of view, pre world cup, it's a bit of a catch 22 - is it better for Bale to potentially play regularly and potentially, on his recent record, pick up significant injuries on a pretty regular basis or is it better for him to get by on minimal games and concentrate on being reasonably fit for the big games.
One thing that's been mentioned is that he wants to be close to the Welsh international fitness staff and Cardiff City share the same base.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 23, 2022, 06:21:12 PM
Pete O'Rourke
@SportsPeteO
Middlesbrough are in talks to sign Wolves winger Ryan Giles on loan. #boro #wwfc


He has now signed official.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 24, 2022, 11:23:41 AM
Burnley agree 4m fee for Twine
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: skyclad99 on June 24, 2022, 11:39:57 AM
Burnley agree 4m fee for Twine

Knot coming here then?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on June 24, 2022, 01:18:34 PM
Fascinated to see how Twine gets on. He looks like the stand out player from league 1 and should help Kompany produce a more free flowing side next season.

They have sold Pope and lost Tarkowski, but still have impressive players for this level including Weghorst and McNeil. Spending £4m suggests their owners are going to gamble financially (or maybe don't have it quite as bad as first thought) so there probably won't be a Swansea style fire sale of players.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on June 24, 2022, 01:30:51 PM
Rothwell has signed for Bournemouth and Lenihan for Boro today, while Nyambe has confirmed he is leaving on a free.

Blackburn losing quote a few players for no incoming fee, could be a tough season for them this year.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 24, 2022, 01:39:18 PM
Rothwell has signed for Bournemouth and Lenihan for Boro today, while Nyambe has confirmed he is leaving on a free.

Blackburn losing quote a few players for no incoming fee, could be a tough season for them this year.

Few rumours we maybe interested in Nyambe not sure how true
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: smethwickw on June 24, 2022, 02:17:03 PM
Burnley agree 4m fee for Twine

This is the kind of signing we should be making. I’m delighted with the signings of Wallace and Swift but both really aren’t going to get any better or increase in value much. Surely we have a spare few quid to spend considering we spent bigger all last summer.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on June 24, 2022, 03:22:50 PM
Fascinated to see how Twine gets on. He looks like the stand out player from league 1 and should help Kompany produce a more free flowing side next season.

They have sold Pope and lost Tarkowski, but still have impressive players for this level including Weghorst and McNeil. Spending £4m suggests their owners are going to gamble financially (or maybe don't have it quite as bad as first thought) so there probably won't be a Swansea style fire sale of players.

They expect 20m for Cornet and Weghorst has said he won’t play in the champ so there’s some money their although unlikely to be what they paid so they’ll have some money.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on June 24, 2022, 03:34:53 PM
John Percy Tweeted

Joe Allen is leaving #Stoke after declining the offer of a new contract, bringing his six-year spell to an end. Allen is a free agent and will be joining another club.. Swansea is a possible option #scfc
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on June 24, 2022, 05:37:13 PM
BREAKING: Man City have an agreement in place to sign Kalvin Phillips from Leeds. £42m + £3m in add-ons.

(Source: @David_Ornstein)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: baggie96 on June 24, 2022, 08:25:34 PM
Burnley signing a few players, all quite young and inexperienced. Seems a big risk
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: lewisant on June 25, 2022, 11:54:55 AM
Burnley signing a few players, all quite young and inexperienced. Seems a big risk

Been playing it safe for years haven't they...it's the beginning of a new dawn for them.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on June 25, 2022, 04:35:08 PM
Gareth Bale agrees to join LAFC in MLS on year-long deal with an option to extend for further 18 months. 32yo opted for #LAFC  from a number of options to continue playing ahead of #WC2022 after leaving Real Madrid as free agent @TheAthleticUK #MLS #RMFC
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: bosh on June 25, 2022, 05:24:26 PM
Just think how Bale would have been received (apart from Swansea) if he had gone to Cardiff before finishing his career and also onto the World Cup where the Welsh national team setup is based. I wonder what the lure of LA was? Better golf courses? Hmmm.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on June 25, 2022, 07:59:41 PM
BREAKING: New Chelsea owner Todd Boehly met with Jorge Mendes to discuss the possibility of signing Cristiano Ronaldo.

(Source: @David_Ornstein)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gerry m on June 26, 2022, 05:59:20 AM
Just think how Bale would have been received (apart from Swansea) if he had gone to Cardiff before finishing his career and also onto the World Cup where the Welsh national team setup is based. I wonder what the lure of LA was? Better golf courses? Hmmm.

All about the money mate. As you said could have gone to Cardiff as he surely doesn't need the money after all those years at Madrid.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on June 26, 2022, 07:35:19 AM
The LA move sort of makes sense for Bale. The championship is faced paced and unforgiving, being.played in the autumn and winter prior to the world cup.

Going toLA however allows him a better schedule and crucially experience of playing in the heat ready for Qatar. It's a move that fits with his career priorities.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on June 26, 2022, 08:37:30 AM
Sunderland and HUddesfield are after Jack Rudoni for around £1m. Since it doesn’t seem we are after Twine, he should be next on the next player from last years L1 on the list.  It’s no good us looking at players like Lewis O’Brien, it’s too late when they are valued at £10m plus. We have to take a small risk sometimes.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 26, 2022, 11:34:59 AM
Burnley sign Scott Twine - official
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on June 26, 2022, 11:44:15 AM
Burnley sign Scott Twine - official

Pity we couldn't tie that deal up ourselves to be honest.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 26, 2022, 11:47:48 AM
Pity we couldn't tie that deal up ourselves to be honest.

Indeed. May come back to haunt us when we play them this season. Twine could have us on a string.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on June 26, 2022, 11:53:40 AM
Indeed. May come back to haunt us when we play them this season. Twine could have us on a string.

May find ourselves in good Kompany in that regard. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: liverbaggie on June 26, 2022, 12:05:19 PM
Let's hope they get knotted eh?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 26, 2022, 12:07:17 PM
Hopefully we find out the rumours he was good enough for the Champo all turned out to be a giant yarn.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on June 26, 2022, 01:31:05 PM
Burnley also rumoured to be signing 22 year old centre back Luke McNally from Oxford - with rumours that their young Irish centre half Nathan Collins might be moving to the prem for a good fee.

A long way to go yet but Burnley seem to be doing sensible business and will be a bigger threat this season than I initially hoped.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on June 26, 2022, 03:57:31 PM
Burnley are probably the most interesting watch this window possibly across all of English football. I am not sure if I were a Burnley fan I'd want to be this bloody interesting but it is going to be busy.

Kompany is a 180 degree change in style although he has played 4-4-2 at Anderlecht it is nothing like the Dyche 4-4-2 it will be interesting to see if he sticks with that and if he does where Twine fits into it but on the face of it a good start.

I would really like to play them in the opening weeks of the season because even if the players are in the building they won't be bedded in. I expect a slow start and a strong finish to their season.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on June 26, 2022, 04:11:59 PM
Let's hope they get knotted eh?

Personally speaking I'd be happy for them to come undone.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 28, 2022, 05:14:53 PM
Burnley FC
@BurnleyOfficial
Burnley Football Club are delighted to announce the arrival of Luke McNally on a four-year contract from Oxford United for an undisclosed fee 📝

#WelcomeMcNally
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on June 28, 2022, 06:58:24 PM
Think Brucey had the wool pulled over his eyes on this one
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 28, 2022, 07:06:13 PM
Think Brucey had the wool pulled over his eyes on this one

Which one matey?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on June 28, 2022, 10:05:56 PM
Japs
;D wasn't expecting that
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 01, 2022, 06:16:04 PM
Burnley continuing to add youth to their aged squad, with what is probably the first of a few loans from Man City. Taylor Harwood-Bellis was on loan at Stoke last season and at 20 has a long career in front of him. Seen as a potential England International of the future.

With Burnley already having a ton of experience, it's a smart policy to sign young players to compelent them. If they gelz Burnley are a match for Norwich and Watford.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 01, 2022, 06:48:11 PM
Ozan Tufan who we were linked with in Jan 2021 in the PL has signed for Hull City. Wonder what went wrong there?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on July 01, 2022, 06:59:37 PM
John Percy Tweeted

Goalkeeper tweet: #nffc have sealed the signing of #mufc Dean Henderson on loan for the season, with Burnley’s Wayne Hennessey also expected to join. Ethan Horvath poised to join Luton on loan for the season
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 01, 2022, 07:30:29 PM
John Percy Tweeted

Goalkeeper tweet: #nffc have sealed the signing of #mufc Dean Henderson on loan for the season, with Burnley’s Wayne Hennessey also expected to join. Ethan Horvath poised to join Luton on loan for the season

Strange move for Hennessey if he signs with the World Cup coming up, he's leaving Burnley where he's been number 2 to Pope who's now left so he could have a chance at the number 1 spot to join Forest where he'll be number 2 to Henderson who wouldn't be joining unless he was number 1 as thats why he wanted to leave United. Both Welsh keepers going to be sitting on the bench in the build up to a World Cup.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 02, 2022, 01:43:54 PM
Tarkowski signs for Everton.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 02, 2022, 05:43:02 PM
All You Need Is Love

Watching transfer stories unfold I am sometimes struck that there are times when players just should stay put at clubs where they have been successful and are generally loved rather than moving on. Yes I know money, the next step, ambition agents with vested interests whispering in their ears and all sorts of pressures. Yet sometimes take a look around and appreciate what you have.

Which is a pretty whimsical intro in one of the most striking moves of the window thus far, Romulu Lukaku going back to Inter on loan just 12 months after completing a £100m move to Chelsea where he was meant to be the final piece in the jigsaw (he wasn’t). Now the deal did help Inter out of a bit of a financial hole but it really couldn’t have gone much worse for the player.

I suspect another player who might be treading a similar path is Taiwo Awoniyi who joins Premier League newcomers Nottingham Forest for a reported fee of £18m. A player at the heart of Union Berlin’s success story leaves them after two years which has seen them qualify for Europe for the first time. Not sure I would have jumped ship at this point another good season in the Bundesliga and the Conference League and there may have been a better move for the player.

Oddly enough Dean Henderson, another player who maybe misguidedly hitched his wagon to an elite club joins Forest on loan. Obviously seen as a bit of a coup for Forest but it remains to be seen what 2 seasons of inactivity at Man U has done to the player’s development.

This is not a Drill

Everton have gone and done a sensible transfer. James Tarkowski on a free okay they have given him a 4 year contract so they own a little bit too much of his post peak years but in the here and now this is just what they need to reinforce a leaky back line. Although transfer windows giveth and they taketh away as Everton lose Richarlison.

Am I alone in not quite getting the hype around Richarlison? I always felt Everton paid a lot and never got consistent game changing performances from the player and I don’t hate the move to Spurs and I can see how he offers rotation options but at £55m not so sure about that.

Returning to Everton if they can do more sensible transfers with that £55m maybe just maybe they might end up with a better squad for Lampard even it does not have so many high profile names in it.

Through Gritted Teeth

My least favourite sports washing project Newcastle United which I would be more than happy to see blow up after their ownership dumped many millions of into the market has signed two players. Nick Pope from Burnley for £11m and Sven (linked with every EPL club) Botman from Lille for £37m. They may have over paid slightly for Botman but those are two good signings that seem to be tactical fits and address a need in the Newcastle squad.

Championship Corner

Moving on from the world of clubs that are richer than God to the much more down to Earth realities of the Championship. One of the more eye-catching deals is Millwall signing attacking midfielder Zian Flemming from Fortuna Sittard who are the very definition of the Erdervisie’s lesser lights. It will be interesting to watch his progress. As will another London bound Erdervisie  recruit left back Kenneth Paal who joins QPR from PEC Zwolle on a free transfer. 

In other news the Championship free transfer merry-go-round continues to turn with Darragh Lenihan joining Middlebrough from Blackburn.  Kasey Palmer has moved from Bristol City to Coventry. An ex Chelsea under 23 Palmer his career is now in reboot mode but you do wonder if Mark Robbins can do something with a player who has lost his way.

Olly Burke’s agent is a magician. He has somehow found him another move this time to Werder Bremen who are newly promoted to the Bundesliga and seem to be operating on a really tight budget. Sheffield United have been happy enough to write off the remainder of the fee and let him move to the Bundesliga on a free with 12 months of his contract to go.

With most clubs back in pre season the pace of activity steps up from here onwards.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: tommcneill on July 02, 2022, 07:02:06 PM
Ronaldo asks to leave United  :o

He’s off to Chelsea I reckon
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on July 03, 2022, 11:38:19 AM
DEAL DONE: Liverpool have competed the signing of Fabio Carvalho from Fulham. He will wear the number 28 shirt.

(Source: @LFC)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 04, 2022, 12:13:24 PM
🚨 EXCLUSIVE: Christian Eriksen has verbally agreed to join Manchester United as a free agent. 30yo playmaker has communicated desire to play for #MUFC + accept 3y deal. Contract needs to be finalised & medical conducted before move complete @TheAthleticUK https://t.co/YPnPldXRhg


Fair play to him because I thought he would never any again after what happened
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: NJS on July 04, 2022, 12:21:45 PM

...

Championship Corner

Moving on from the world of clubs that are richer than God to the much more down to Earth realities of the Championship. One of the more eye-catching deals is Millwall signing attacking midfielder Zian Flemming from Fortuna Sittard who are the very definition of the Erdervisie’s lesser lights. It will be interesting to watch his progress. As will another London bound Erdervisie  recruit left back Kenneth Paal who joins QPR from PEC Zwolle on a free transfer. 

In other news the Championship free transfer merry-go-round continues to turn with Darragh Lenihan joining Middlebrough from Blackburn.  Kasey Palmer has moved from Bristol City to Coventry. An ex Chelsea under 23 Palmer his career is now in reboot mode but you do wonder if Mark Robbins can do something with a player who has lost his way.

Olly Burke’s agent is a magician. He has somehow found him another move this time to Werder Bremen who are newly promoted to the Bundesliga and seem to be operating on a really tight budget. Sheffield United have been happy enough to write off the remainder of the fee and let him move to the Bundesliga on a free with 12 months of his contract to go.

With most clubs back in pre season the pace of activity steps up from here onwards.

My take from  the above is that it's allowed to recruit anywhere ("lesser lights") from the first divisions of European clubs.  Obviously they must have a certain number of appearances but would we want anybody that hadn't?

Re Oli Burke: his agent isn't just a magician he's a hypnotist.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 06, 2022, 12:59:09 PM
Derby sign James Chester, McGoldrock and Hourihane all official. Thank god. Was half expecting 2 of those 3 to end up here
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: phbaggies on July 06, 2022, 01:03:47 PM
Derby sign James Chester, McGoldrock and Hourihane all official. Thank god. Was half expecting 2 of those 3 to end up here
Great signings at that level!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 06, 2022, 01:04:29 PM
Great signings at that level!

For sure but not ours
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on July 06, 2022, 05:41:39 PM
John Percy Tweeted

Chelsea agree personal terms with Raheem Sterling over Man City transfer
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 06, 2022, 10:52:24 PM
Derby sign James Chester, McGoldrock and Hourihane all official. Thank god. Was half expecting 2 of those 3 to end up here

I thought James Chester had retired  :o

Boro have signed Nyambe on a free to go with Lenihan. With Wilder at the helm and some smart signings already, they will be another side we need to overcome to get top 6.

QPR are signing Tyler Roberts - not good enough for the top flight but a decent championship player.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 06, 2022, 11:13:22 PM
I thought James Chester had retired  :o

Boro have signed Nyambe on a free to go with Lenihan. With Wilder at the helm and some smart signings already, they will be another side we need to overcome to get top 6.

QPR are signing Tyler Roberts - not good enough for the top flight but a decent championship player.

Is Nyambe official then? Not seen owt myself. Would have been a good free imo.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hull Baggie on July 07, 2022, 08:21:36 AM
Is Nyambe official then? Not seen owt myself. Would have been a good free imo.

no, not official yet, "winning the race" to sign him is how it's being described in most things I've read.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on July 07, 2022, 10:16:18 AM
𝐁𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐊𝐈𝐍𝐆: Chelsea are preparing a £14m bid for Cristiano Ronaldo.

(Source: @SportsPeteO)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: skyclad99 on July 07, 2022, 11:52:42 AM
I thought James Chester had retired  :o

Boro have signed Nyambe on a free to go with Lenihan. With Wilder at the helm and some smart signings already, they will be another side we need to overcome to get top 6.

QPR are signing Tyler Roberts - not good enough for the top flight but a decent championship player.

Boro have also spoken to Dwight Gayle apparently, and given that his family are settled in the NE it would be a sensible move for him
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on July 07, 2022, 05:18:17 PM
West Ham have apparently agreed a fee of £12m for Flynn Downes.  He’s a decent player and still young, but is at least £7m too much.

We were linked a year ago, we really need to get better at signing young talent from leagues one and two at the right time.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: NJS on July 07, 2022, 05:51:35 PM
Leeds and Sheffield Utd are spending on foreign talent.  Huddersfield signing players from League 1.  I fear we're going to be left behind with the present ownership and management.  Let's hope that one or two from the academy blossom this season.

Edit:  Carlos Corberan has resigned from Huddersfield Town- that's going to hurt them
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 07, 2022, 07:04:14 PM
Official. West Ham have signed Flynn Downes on permanent deal from Swansea for £9m fee plus add ons to total £14m potential package. ⚒️🤝 #WHUFC

Downes has signed the contract - he follows Areola and Aguerd at West Ham.


Rano
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Adder on July 07, 2022, 08:33:56 PM
Official. West Ham have signed Flynn Downes on permanent deal from Swansea for £9m fee plus add ons to total £14m potential package. ⚒️🤝 #WHUFC

Downes has signed the contract - he follows Areola and Aguerd at West Ham.


Rano
Palace wanted him also by the sounds of it. Clearly not a bad £1.5m signing by Swansea from Ipswich. It's the way Swansea do things as well as produce from their own academy.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: lewisant on July 07, 2022, 11:18:40 PM
Rangers are signing Tom Lawrence so those that we worried about us signing him can set those aside.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 09, 2022, 04:19:14 AM
The Eredivisie Merry Go Round

Consider the career of Sebastian Haller.

Auxerre (Ligue 2 at the time) to Utrecht (£0.6m) to Frankfurt (£10m) to West Ham (£40m) to Ajax (£20m) and now Dortmund (£27m). All the way he has scored goals except at West Ham where he was labeled an expensive flop. 18 months later having scored for fun at Ajax which of course had nothing to do with them creating more chances than anyone else in the league. He has now been sold to the second best team in Germany at a small profit.

This tells us a lot about the hierarchy of Leagues, and the Bundesliga Tax (English clubs paying too much for Bundesliga talent, more accurately a tax on stupidity.) West Ham overpaid and really didn’t think about how they were going to use him (for a tall man he isn’t that dominant in the air)

Ajax have taken the £27m and promptly spent it on Steven Bergwijn, another player recycled from the Premier League. Only Ajax can do this and with the production line of young talent it gives them a near stranglehold on the league and the lucrative Champions League income.

Other Dutch teams continue to export talent like Feyenoord selling Colombian Winger  Luis Sinisterra to Leeds for £22m but don’t have the ability to backfill in the way Ajax do.

RB Weiße Rose

On the subject of  Leeds United,  the Sinisterra deal is the 5th incoming deal and the first not from Germany or Austria, markets that Head Coach Jesse Marsch is familiar with.

He joins:
 
Brenden Aaronson from RB Salzburg (£29m)   
Tyler Adams from RB Leipzig (£13m)
Rasmus Kristensen from RB Salzburg (£11m)
Marc Roca from Bayern Munich (£11m)

Apart from Aaronson who looks pricey at £30m given he hasn’t played League football at a higher level than the Austrian Bundesliga the fees aren’t too bad the issue is integrating them into a team all at once. Particularly a team that is losing two of its leading lights in Kalvin Phillips who joined Man City for £45m and  Raphina who is probably leaving (Sinisterra is obviously his replacement).

Can Jesus Save Arsenal?

I don’t know. Mikel Arteta should know and the theory is Arsenal have lots of possession in the final third they just need a striker to finish moves off. Jesus might be that player and he might be the difference between 5th and 4th but elevating Arsenal higher I’m not sure.

Championship Corner

Some transfers involving fees 
 
Watford have spent  £5m on Centre Forward Vakoun Issouf Bayo from RSC Charleroi
 
As have Sheffield United on Swedish/Bosnian Centre Back Anel Ahmedhodzic for £4.5m

And finally Burnley have bought central midfielder Samuel Bastien  from Standard Liege for £0.75m

However the free transfers far out number them

Romaine Sawyers to Cardiff
Ben Woodburn Liverpool to Preston
Robbie Brady Bournemouth to Preston
Luke Freeman Sheffield United to Luton
Cameron Humphreys Zulte Waregem to Rotherham
Carlton Morris Barnsley to Luton

Not sure the imports are better than those being recycled through the Championship wash can I hand on heart make a case for Ahmedhodzic being a better signing than Linegan? Not really I have seen enough churn across Watford’s squad not to automatically think a Centre Forward from Belgium is the next Lukaku (he almost certainly isn’t)

The loan market is picking up and the standout pick up is Tyler Roberts moving from Leeds to QPR.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: baggiebof on July 09, 2022, 06:15:41 AM
Jean Michel Seri joining Hull after his Fulham  ontract expired. That's a surprise to me and actually would have been interested in him for us if the deal was right, could be the ball progressing midfielder we lack.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 11, 2022, 12:05:52 PM
Forest really having a decent go at it, using risk Vs reward as it should be done imo. They may still come down but what a team they would have in the EFL.

Manager and board light years ahead of ours.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 11, 2022, 12:53:14 PM
"Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Brentford FC have completed Keane Lewis Potter deal with Hull City for £16m fee plus add-ons. He will sign six year deal soon. 🚨🐝 #transfers

Contract agreed, valid until 2028… and next one, Thomas Strakosha."


Wondered where Hull were getting their money from.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 11, 2022, 01:05:00 PM
Forest and Brentford both doing sensible business on the face of it. Forest in particular are building a squad that should do well in the championship in the event of relegation.

So many clubs now have grasped what we don't- you need to bring in players who you can move on a few years down the line and thus keep the cycle going.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Dan on July 11, 2022, 01:58:36 PM
Forest and Brentford both doing sensible business on the face of it. Forest in particular are building a squad that should do well in the championship in the event of relegation.

So many clubs now have grasped what we don't- you need to bring in players who you can move on a few years down the line and thus keep the cycle going.

We did kind of try that when we were in the premier, Grant was 23, Diangana 22, Pereira 24, Robinson 25, Kipre 23. Of course Pereira aside, they turned out to be rather poor investments none of whom we could expect anything like we paid.

Difficulty for the small clubs is making the right investment on actual quality otherwise you still get lumbered with the player as has happened to us with our poor investments in young players - see Burke previously for the worst example.

Brentford seem to have it cracked scouting quality and value, Forest just seem to be following a now well worn path of promoted sides spending a lot on very little. No one in the premier would have taken Omar Richards on a free at Reading, Bayern sign him specifically to sell back to the premier and sure enough a desperate club pays 10m for him. Sort of thing we would have done if promoted.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: bosh on July 11, 2022, 04:21:04 PM
So the Dingles have rejected £20 million plus add ons for Morgan Gibbs White. They want £30 million.

This is a player who never made the grade in the prem and had a decent, not exceptional, one in the Championship.

Absolute madness in financial terms. Are clubs just plain stupid because I've got some magic beans for sale - they arent really magic but shhhhhhhh.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on July 11, 2022, 04:40:06 PM
So the Dingles have rejected £20 million plus add ons for Morgan Gibbs White. They want £30 million.

This is a player who never made the grade in the prem and had a decent, not exceptional, one in the Championship.

Absolute madness in financial terms. Are clubs just plain stupid because I've got some magic beans for sale - they arent really magic but shhhhhhhh.
The prices are ever more inflated, especially in this country. Its like a spiralling effect, because each club knows it has to place a stupid price tag so that it has enough in the kitty to make their own pruchases.

The European clubs have twigged this and now stick more and more outrageous pricetags on their players, when there is interest from the Premier League, because they know they will pay up.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 11, 2022, 04:56:26 PM
John Percy
@JPercyTelegraph
#Wolves are in advanced talks with #Burnley over a £20.5m deal for centre-back Nathan Collins, the Republic of Ireland international. Not done yet, but negotiations progressing well and it's close. Collins will be the first signing of the summer for Bruno Lage if all is agreed
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on July 11, 2022, 05:07:27 PM
Gibbs-White is a really good player. Last season is the first time in his career he’s really got a run of games and racked up some minutes. If he was Portuguese he’d be playing for wolves. £30m is too high though.

I’ve not seen much of Nathan Collins, he seemed to leave Stoke very quickly but he must have impressed for Burnley.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 11, 2022, 07:09:33 PM
Aaron Mooy is on a free, was a useful player 2 years back.  Seeing as Bruce has said we are short on midfielders in the press today and TGH wasnt mentioned in there with the others i think we could do worse if a 1 year deal was acceptable to him and we couldn't get our main targets of course.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on July 11, 2022, 07:34:37 PM
Gibbs-White is a really good player. Last season is the first time in his career he’s really got a run of games and racked up some minutes. If he was Portuguese he’d be playing for wolves. £30m is too high though.

I’ve not seen much of Nathan Collins, he seemed to leave Stoke very quickly but he must have impressed for Burnley.
Collins only got a run of games towards the end of the season when Ben Mee got injured .From memory he cost Burnley approx 12 mil , seems an awfully high sum for a player that took a long time to break in to the side and then mainly because of injury
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hull Baggie on July 12, 2022, 08:17:49 AM
"Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Brentford FC have completed Keane Lewis Potter deal with Hull City for £16m fee plus add-ons. He will sign six year deal soon. 🚨🐝 #transfers

Contract agreed, valid until 2028… and next one, Thomas Strakosha."


Wondered where Hull were getting their money from.

they are owned by Turkish media mogul Acun Ilicali ...apparently he's worth around £100M.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 12, 2022, 08:50:52 AM
they are owned by Turkish media mogul Acun Ilicali ...apparently he's worth around £100M.

In footballing terms 100m isn't a lot though IMO.

16m for KLP is a good deal though for them
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on July 12, 2022, 11:34:35 AM
Hull have spend a rumoured £6m (£4m of which on a young Iranian Striker who hardly tore it when on loan) and signed the no doubt expensive Seri on a free. The £16m for KLP more than covers what they have done so far.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: The Joust on July 13, 2022, 02:50:59 PM
Shane Long back to Reading
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 14, 2022, 09:52:21 AM
Anyone know anything about this kid?


Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Burnley are set to sign Ian Maatsen on loan from Chelsea - medical will take place today, as reported by @mcgrathmike
. Kompany wanted him as priority. 🇳🇱🤝 #CFC

Burnley will pay Maatsen’ salary until June 2023.


Shane Long back to Reading

Thank god.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on July 14, 2022, 10:13:49 AM
Anyone know anything about this kid?


Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Burnley are set to sign Ian Maatsen on loan from Chelsea - medical will take place today, as reported by @mcgrathmike
. Kompany wanted him as priority. 🇳🇱🤝 #CFC

Burnley will pay Maatsen’ salary until June 2023.


Thank god.

He did well at Cov last season for a young lad so will get better and should be a good signing.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 14, 2022, 10:16:58 AM
He did well at Cov last season for a young lad so will get better and should be a good signing.

Ahhhh yes, thanks. I remember now. Seemed ok.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 14, 2022, 01:43:18 PM
John Percy
@JPercyTelegraph
Norwich are set to sign Sao Paulo midfielder Gabriel Sara, who is flying into England to start his medical tonight. A box-to-box midfielder, Sara will cost an initial £6m and has been scouted by Norwich's recruitment department for the past 4 years #ncfc


6m is a lot more reasonable than 10m previosly mentioned.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 15, 2022, 09:26:45 AM
"Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Tottenham are set to complete Djed Spence deal, confirmed and here we go! He’s going to sign a five year deal, medical tests ready - final details discussed now & contracts being prepared. 🚨⚪️ #THFC

Fee will be £12.5m guaranteed plus add ons, total package will be just under £20m."


12.5m is a lot less than the 20m they hoped for apparently. Hopefully that eliminates a target from their budget
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 17, 2022, 12:17:52 PM
Everton have loan offer with perm potential for Cornet from Burnley rejected. Clarets want 18m.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 17, 2022, 07:20:09 PM
John Percy
@JPercyTelegraph
#nffc have today agreed a double deal with #htafc to sign midfielder Lewis O’Brien and left-back Harry Toffolo. Fee for both players around the £10m mark before add-ons etc. O’Brien and Toffolo due for medicals on Monday

HUddersfield losing a few
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on July 17, 2022, 08:05:30 PM
John Percy
@JPercyTelegraph
#nffc have today agreed a double deal with #htafc to sign midfielder Lewis O’Brien and left-back Harry Toffolo. Fee for both players around the £10m mark before add-ons etc. O’Brien and Toffolo due for medicals on Monday

HUddersfield losing a few

£10m for Both is decent business from forests point of view.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 17, 2022, 08:15:48 PM
£10m for Both is decent business from forests point of view.

I agree. I read that O Brien was 10m alone I'm sure of it
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 18, 2022, 03:52:48 AM
The Palace Revolution Continues

I hate the phrase “winning the transfer window” because as good as a transfer might look at the outset there is a lot that can go wrong just the random misfortune of injury. However if ever a club transformed itself across one transfer window it was Crystal Palace last summer and well they are at it again.

Sam Johnstone has joined them on a free to add depth to the goalkeeping department and they have signed the excellent Cheick Doucoure for £18m from Lens a 22 year old defensive midfielder who will anchor the midfield and seems destined to replace Cheikhou Kouyaté who is out of contract.

It will be interesting to see what happens for the rest of the window. Palace have handled the transition from Hodgson to Viera adroitly, but the next wave of contracts are due to expire next summer with 13 players deals coming to an end. For the most part they are not first team regulars with one exception,  Zaha who at 29 might be running out of road for the frequently rumoured big move and the club have one last chance of securing a fee. Roma are rumoured as being interested.

The Shambles from Las Ramblas

The headline news on Barcelona's business this straight forward

Inbound
Raphinha from Leeds £52m    
Franck Kessié from Milan free    
Andreas Christensen from Chelsea free transfer

Outbound
Philippe Coutinho to Aston Villa for £18.00m
Francisco Trincão to Sporting loan
Rey Manaj to Watford £2.25m
Clément Lenglet to Spurs loan

Which is very much “so what”,  they continue to offload fringe players and shuffle players around picking up two of the elite level free agents but that has a price in fees and wages.

As ever the devil is in the detail. Leeds have inserted a punitive late payment clause into the Raphina deal which they would only do if they thought there was a risk that Barcelona, one of the giants of European football, might not pay them on time.

However a bigger scandal surrounds the proposed move of Frankie De Jong to Man United which has stalled over £17m of deferred wages which would be due to the player, however it is very clear they have to sell De Jong to be able to fund the wages of the players they have already signed.

This is shambolic, someone La Liga or UEFA need to step in and make them honour their commitments or impose a transfer embargo until they sort themselves out.   

The Song Remains the same

Chelsea’s first window in the post Abramovich era is interesting. Kalidou Koulibaly has joined from Napoli for £30m which goes someway to plugging the gap left by the departures of Christensen and Rudiger.

Raheem Sterling has moved from Man City for a fee of £50m. Basically he has joined Chelsea to replace Tino Werner who hasn’t ever looked convincing since joining the club 2 seasons ago. 
 
Still spending vast amounts of money on players not always sensibly
 
This time more than any other time…

Once in a while I am shocked by a transfer not because of the fee nor the tactical fit but because I have just forgotten a player was at the club they are leaving. Andreas Pereira falls into the category a fringe player at Old Trafford he spent last season on loan at Flamenco and is now Fulham’s second signing for £10m following on heels of Portuguese international João Palhinha who they signed for £18m.

As ever with Fulham they are prepared to spend money but seem to do so in a fairly haphazard way and while the individual players are often eye-catching the overall outcome is a bit of a mess. This is just wait and see.

There is nothing haphazard about Brentford’s activity in the market. The club broke it’s transfer record twice in a week spending £14m on Aaron Hickey from Bologna and then £17m on Keane Lewis-Potter. This is in effect a new wide left set up and it does beg the question as to what might happen to the incumbents at left back and winger (Rico Henry and Yoane Wissa)

Championship Corner

Frees

Óscar Estupiñán, an interesting pickup  by Hull City on a free from Vitória Guimarães. A Centre Forward, it looks like he had a bit of a breakout season last year in Portugal. Might be one to watch.

John Ruddy moves from Wolves to Birmingham City
Shane Long returns to Reading
Sheyi Ojo joins Cardiff from Liverpool
 
Fees
 

Gabriel Sara has joined Norwich City from São Paulo for £9.5m which may be the biggest single fee paid by a Championship club this window.

Rey Manaj a Centre Forward has joined Watford for £2.25m from Barcelona! I have no idea if he is any good at 25 he has been on the books of two of the giants of European Football Inter and Barcelona but barely played for either the bulk of his career has been spent in much more modest surroundings.

Josh Cullen has followed Kompany to Burnley from Anderlect, A key player for Kompany in central midfield the former West Ham man has signed for a fee of £2.7m.

Loans

Lewis Fiorini has joined Blackpool from Man City
Ian Maatsen has joined Burnley from Chelsea
Jonathan Panzo joined Coventry from Forest.
Ciaran Clark joined Sheffield United from Newcastle
Jeff Hendrick joined Reading from Newcastle
Callum Doyle joined Coventry from Man City

Of the above the standout deals are Maatsen who did well at Coventry last season. Panzo who is a very promising Centre Back.


Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: The Joust on July 19, 2022, 07:35:41 PM
Pereira going back to Brazil to Botafogo. Such a shame..
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on July 19, 2022, 08:27:50 PM
Pereira going back to Brazil to Botafogo. Such a shame..
His agent and bank manager ain’t too upset

Now if Ron could hijacker’s that deal, statue time
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 20, 2022, 09:38:25 PM
#NFFC set to win race for Jesse Lingard, who is due for a medical with Forest. Exciting times for promoted club who have made 10 signings, several of whom impressed tonight in their friendly win over Hertha Berlin. https://t.co/rhs2h1bgn5


From James Nursey


Holy rubbish 180k a week he wants. Nuts.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on July 20, 2022, 09:53:55 PM
Have you seen how much they are allegedly paying him :o :o :o
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 20, 2022, 09:54:23 PM
Ryan Nyambe finally signed for Wigan today on a 1 year free deal.

Apparently he rejected Blackburn's offer as his agent told him he would get much better offers and then did not.  Tried to go back to Blackburn but they pulled offer so he had to sign for Wigan.

Hilarious if true.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 20, 2022, 09:54:46 PM
Have you seen how much they are allegedly paying him :o :o :o

The story said he wants 180k pw
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on July 20, 2022, 09:57:23 PM
The story said he wants 180k pw
Read somewhere between that and 200k/week ! Worlds gone daft !
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 20, 2022, 09:58:52 PM
Read somewhere between that and 200k/week ! Worlds gone daft !

Forest owner must have some cash!


Edit - just checked around 600m. A relative pauper
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on July 20, 2022, 10:04:26 PM
Forest owner must have some cash!


Edit - just checked around 600m. A relative pauper
Or rob banks in his spare time !!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hull Baggie on July 21, 2022, 08:14:38 AM
His agent and bank manager ain’t too upset

Now if Ron could hijacker’s that deal, statue time

Why would we want him back? Once bitten, twice shy and all that. Superb player when he could be bothered, appalling attitude.
We also couldn't pay him what he'd want, he's the worst kind of football mercenary.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 21, 2022, 08:19:15 AM
Why would we want him back? Once bitten, twice shy and all that. Superb player when he could be bothered, appalling attitude.
We also couldn't pay him what he'd want, he's the worst kind of football mercenary.


He really is. Would never have him back.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 21, 2022, 05:20:11 PM
Rob Dorsett saying:

Gayle agreed 2 year deal at Stoke, to be unveiled shortly. Ben Mee signing for Brentford on a free as well.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 21, 2022, 07:01:17 PM
Jesse Lingard has signed for Forest.200k pw apparently.  10.4m in wages and a signing on fee no doubt. 1 year deal.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on July 21, 2022, 07:20:35 PM
David Ornstein was quoted in the Tweet by “Transfer News Live” his response to them was

“I didn’t mention salary anywhere - please delete thanks”
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 21, 2022, 07:35:07 PM
Jesse Lingard has signed for Forest.200k pw apparently.  10.4m in wages and a signing on fee no doubt. 1 year deal.

Absolutely ridiculous for a relatively bang average player.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on July 21, 2022, 07:40:05 PM
Balanced by , they would say , no transfer fee. Only a one year deal so if Forest go back down he gets to auction himself off all over again this time next year !
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 21, 2022, 07:46:30 PM
Absolutely ridiculous for a relatively bang average player.

Up until this week i thought they'd taken a reasonably sensible approach. Spent about 60m, probably would go down but would basically establish themselves as a yo-yo club for the long term at least.

Looking at it now they have spent 75m in fees. Lingard is 11-12m and Dean Henderson is 6m for the season.

That's 93m spent without wages for the new lads and existing squad outside of Lingard and DH. I think they got 4m ish for Brice so 89m plus wages. That's got to be all next seasons money AND most of the parachute payment if they come down.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: KN22 on July 21, 2022, 10:50:28 PM
Up until this week i thought they'd taken a reasonably sensible approach. Spent about 60m, probably would go down but would basically establish themselves as a yo-yo club for the long term at least.

Looking at it now they have spent 75m in fees. Lingard is 11-12m and Dean Henderson is 6m for the season.

That's 93m spent without wages for the new lads and existing squad outside of Lingard and DH. I think they got 4m ish for Brice so 89m plus wages. That's got to be all next seasons money AND most of the parachute payment if they come down.

But if they survive it will have been a wise gamble. Time alone will tell.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on July 22, 2022, 12:04:01 AM
Jesse Lingard has signed for Forest.200k pw apparently.  10.4m in wages and a signing on fee no doubt. 1 year deal.
Forest buying almost an entire team and still getting linked with more players. Has someone there won the lottery? Doesn't necessarily mean they will build a strong team spirit.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gerry m on July 22, 2022, 05:43:26 AM
Have you seen how much they are allegedly paying him :o :o :o

Another player only in it for the money :(
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on July 22, 2022, 07:57:56 AM
Forest buying almost an entire team and still getting linked with more players. Has someone there won the lottery? Doesn't necessarily mean they will build a strong team spirit.

Remember Fulham doing the same few seasons back
Still got relegated
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on July 22, 2022, 08:49:01 AM
Sky reporting it’s nowhere near 200k. Just the modest £115k plus incentives.

If they get the West Ham lingard, that’s probably not a bad deal.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 22, 2022, 11:46:00 AM
Gayle officially signs for Stoke. On their Twitter now.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 22, 2022, 05:05:30 PM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Official. Burnley sign goalkeeper Aro Murić from Manchester City on a permanent deal worth £2.5m fee. 🇽🇰🤝 #transfers

Add-ons, buyback clause, first refusal and sell-on clause are also included.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on July 22, 2022, 05:07:47 PM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Official. Burnley sign goalkeeper Aro Murić from Manchester City on a permanent deal worth £2.5m fee. 🇽🇰🤝 #transfers

Add-ons, buyback clause, first refusal and sell-on clause are also included.
Is he the lad that was at Forest when Phillips scored from the other side of the Trent !?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 22, 2022, 05:08:39 PM
Is he the lad that was at Forest when Phillips scored from the other side of the Trent !?

Yes that is him.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on July 22, 2022, 05:10:13 PM
That’s two keepers gone from City this week , Steffens gone on loan to Boro
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 22, 2022, 05:21:46 PM
That’s two keepers gone from City this week , Steffens gone on loan to Boro

Man City are stacked in every area to be fair. Probably similar to Chelsea in squad size.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: zippyandbungle on July 22, 2022, 09:26:34 PM
That’s two keepers gone from City this week , Steffens gone on loan to Boro
Thanks ever so much lads, now if you could all bugger off I’m going to get a new team in.😂
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 23, 2022, 09:04:20 AM
"Fabrizio Romano

Southampton have submitted an official bid this week around £16m to sign Liam Delap on permanent deal. Manchester City have turned down the proposal. 🚨⚪️🔴 #SaintsFC

Delap, top target for Southampton but there's still no agreement in place."


Yeesh 16m turned down. Not like Man City need the money though they can let his future pan out naturally.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on July 23, 2022, 09:10:54 AM
Liverpool got £24m for Brewster after 6 months in the championship so £16m was never going to be enough, even if City want to sell.

Southampton were tipped as a preferred club to get him on loan, but if I were Man City there’s no way I let him go there now.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 23, 2022, 09:12:34 AM
Liverpool got £24m for Brewster after 6 months in the championship so £16m was never going to be enough, even if City want to sell.

Southampton were tipped as a preferred club to get him on loan, but if I were Man City there’s no way I let him go there now.


24m for Brewster was nuts though. More fool United for payng it. Liverpool must have been laughing as hard as Cardiff when we signed Zohore.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on July 23, 2022, 09:22:18 AM

24m for Brewster was nuts though. More fool United for payng it. Liverpool must have been laughing as hard as Cardiff when we signed Zohore.

It was, but if Delap came down on loan and banged around 20 in the championship first time of asking, someone would pay £30m if Man City were willling to sell next summer. 

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 23, 2022, 09:25:19 AM
It was, but if Delap came down on loan and banged around 20 in the championship first time of asking, someone would pay £30m if Man City were willling to sell next summer.

More fool them for paying that as well! A top EFL striker is 15-20m for me.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on July 23, 2022, 09:55:16 AM
I agree (although Watkins went for £28m I think?)  it’s just that if Delap comes and does it, he won’t just be any normal Championship striker.

He’ll be a 19/20 year old English striker on the books of Man City. There’s no guarantees though.

Balogun was highly rated and didn’t set the division on fire. Although 3 goals and 3 assists in 900 minutes isn’t that bad at all, it does mean nobody is going to pay £40,000 a week to loan him again, like it was rumoured Boro did. Arsenal will need to let him out for much less if they want him to get games.



Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 23, 2022, 09:58:34 AM
I agree (although Watkins went for £28m I think?)  it’s just that if Delap comes and does it, he won’t just be any normal Championship striker.

He’ll be a 19/20 year old English striker on the books of Man City. There’s no guarantees though.

Balogun was highly rated and didn’t set the division on fire. Although 3 goals and 3 assists in 900 minutes isn’t that bad at all, it does mean nobody is going to pay £40,000 a week to loan him again, like it was rumoured Boro did. Arsenal will need to let him out for much less if they want him to get games.

Totally forgot about that Balogun deal. Waste fo money that was indeed!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BalisPen on July 23, 2022, 01:44:33 PM
"Fabrizio Romano

Southampton have submitted an official bid this week around £16m to sign Liam Delap on permanent deal. Manchester City have turned down the proposal. 🚨⚪️🔴 #SaintsFC

Delap, top target for Southampton but there's still no agreement in place."


Yeesh 16m turned down. Not like Man City need the money though they can let his future pan out naturally.

Southampton seem to have a very expensive habit in wasting cash on young City players. They paid about £14m for an unproven Angus Gunn, who couldn't stop the shots and just last month they paid a similar amount on another young city gk. If Delap sale goes through that would be nearly £50m on potential from a club like Southampton.

We really can't compete with that.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on July 24, 2022, 07:46:45 AM
Newcastle are keen on Leicester winger Harvey Barnes but the Foxes want £50m for the 24-year-old Englishman.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Barrington on July 24, 2022, 11:10:22 AM
£50 million is probably a fair price in this market for both parties. Wouldn't sell him for much less than that.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on July 25, 2022, 03:39:14 PM
Let’s talk about Forest. There is a lot to unwrap here.

Broadly there are two approaches that promoted can adopt, bolt on 4 or 5 new players onto the promoted squad or go for a whole new team. On balance the former seems to be more successful and Forest are going for a whole team approach.

To date they have signed
   
Taiwo Awoniyi   (£18.45m) from 1.FC Union Berlin
Neco Williams   (£18.00m)  from Liverpool    
Moussa Niakhaté (£9.0M) from FSV Mainz 05    
Giulian Biancone (£9.0m) from Troyes   
Omar Richards (£7.65m) from Bayern Munich   
Lewis O'Brien   (£5.3m) from Huddersfield Town
Harry Toffolo (£5.0m)  from Huddersfield Town
Brandon Aguilera (0.8m) from LD Alajuelense
Jesse Lingard    (free) from Manchester United    
Wayne Hennessey (free) from Burnley    
Dean Henderson (loan) from Manchester United

None of it is horrible with the exception of Lingard who has in effect loaned himself to Forest for the season. The wages are north of £100k a week with a signing-on fee taking it closer to the earlier reported £200k a week. The assumption that Lingard is somehow going to be the difference between relegation and survival is laughable. This is a player who has had a 3 month purple patch in 3 years and that was in a West Ham team that was a lot better than the current Forest squad.

To be fair to the club they pretty much had to do a complete rebuild on the back of a number of players leaving and two of the last years key performers Davis and Garner being loanees. But where they have fallen down is making two key mistakes.

 1 Buying two players of similar quality for both full backs positions. 

I genuinely don't know which of the full back signings are first choice particularly at left back one will get the bulk of the minutes and the other will be an expensive and difficult to move flop.

 2  Buying an ex-Liverpool youngster for too much money e.g. Nico Williams
It's a Liverpool thing sprinkle some star dust on average players and charge a premium to a mid to lower level Premier League team. Very few of these deals go well for the buying club.

They probably haven’t finished integrating the new players will be difficult.  I have a great deal of respect for Steve Cooper but this is a mammoth challenge.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on July 25, 2022, 03:54:52 PM
Have not changed my opinion that they will be stone dead last this year. A very expensive Norwich.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on July 25, 2022, 04:57:28 PM
Nottingham Forest have spent, so far, in excess of £70m I believe and they aren’t finished yet according to some sports journalists.

It’s a huge risk and gamble, but is it worth it? Time will tell
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 25, 2022, 06:35:04 PM
"@SouthamptonFC
Welcome, @S_Mvrv
 🤝

#SaintsFC is delighted to confirm the signing of Sékou Mara from @girondins
, subject to international clearance:"


I'm guessing this new striker pushes Armstrong further down the order there?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: tommcneill on July 25, 2022, 06:39:05 PM
"@SouthamptonFC
Welcome, @S_Mvrv
 🤝

#SaintsFC is delighted to confirm the signing of Sékou Mara from @girondins
, subject to international clearance:"


I'm guessing this new striker pushes Armstrong further down the order there?

I hope so.

Armstrong is the one who I would like at Albion.

I did when he was at Blackburn
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 25, 2022, 06:42:20 PM
I hope so.

Armstrong is the one who I would like at Albion.

I did when he was at Blackburn

Yes me too. Then it would be Delap i guess and lastly Grabban but only a 1 year deal.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: zippyandbungle on July 25, 2022, 09:26:30 PM
Yes me too. Then it would be Delap i guess and lastly Grabban but only a 1 year deal.
good lord
There are probably 30 strikers that would be better fits than grab an (and more likely)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 25, 2022, 09:43:28 PM
good lord
There are probably 30 strikers that would be better fits than grab an (and more likely)

Of the ones we have been linked too of course.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on July 25, 2022, 10:47:59 PM
Nottingham Forest have spent, so far, in excess of £70m I believe and they aren’t finished yet according to some sports journalists.

It’s a huge risk and gamble, but is it worth it? Time will tell

big test for cooper, can he meld another team together ? Hopefully the club havent purchased big ego's and he can, would be great to see another succesful english manager
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: royhan on July 25, 2022, 11:11:51 PM
big test for cooper, can he meld another team together ? Hopefully the club havent purchased big ego's and he can, would be great to see another succesful english manager

Cooper is Welsh. I agree though that it will be great to see another successful British manager. Not many are given opportunities at the top level
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on July 26, 2022, 07:23:25 AM
Nottingham Forest have agreed a deal in principle to sign 24-year-old Belgium midfielder Orel Mangala from Stuttgart for £12.75m.

The spending continues
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: WBArgo on July 26, 2022, 08:10:08 AM
Nottingham Forest have agreed a deal in principle to sign 24-year-old Belgium midfielder Orel Mangala from Stuttgart for £12.75m.

The spending continues

I'm not sure about Forest now. Typically, the teams that stay up have a good core and add a few key signings without going overboard. Their style reminds me a bit of Fulham a couple of seasons ago when they spent like crazy. Very rarely does it work and it's near impossible for a bunch of players to instantly click, despite how good they are.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 26, 2022, 08:17:41 AM
I think it's part of the Forest plan. They will likely come down, then they will likely go back up. Repeat the process until you are solidified PL. A bit like a more reckless Jeremy Peace slowbuild with no patience though  ;D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on July 26, 2022, 08:25:48 AM
I think it's part of the Forest plan. They will likely come down, then they will likely go back up. Repeat the process until you are solidified PL. A bit like a more reckless Jeremy Peace slowbuild with no patience though  ;D
so like Norwich tried but faster?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 26, 2022, 08:32:20 AM
so like Norwich tried but faster?

I don't think Norwich net spend is that high myself. I'd say Norwich/WBA on crack.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: MarkW on July 26, 2022, 08:42:52 AM
It's the Fulham model. Sign a new squad when you're up. Loan or sell them when you get relegated, but you've got a squad way too good for the Championship.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 26, 2022, 09:03:42 AM
It's the Fulham model. Sign a new squad when you're up. Loan or sell them when you get relegated, but you've got a squad way too good for the Championship.

Probably a better way of what i'm trying to say. PL every other season at worse. They have a very good manager though so they might succeed long term IF they don't turn on him when the going gets tough, which it will.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on July 26, 2022, 07:30:37 PM
It's also similar to the Leeds model which has worked for them, albeit they had a strong nucleus from the championship and I'm less convinced Forest do.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 27, 2022, 11:53:06 AM
Well another we can cross off:

"Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Nottingham Forest top priority for the midfield is William Carvalho. Talks on - been told there’s strong interest in the Portuguese midfielder. 🚨🇵🇹 #NFFC

Huge opportunity for William in the Premier League with ambitious club like NFFC, pushing to sign him as priority target."
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on July 27, 2022, 12:27:23 PM
Well another we can cross off:

"Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Nottingham Forest top priority for the midfield is William Carvalho. Talks on - been told there’s strong interest in the Portuguese midfielder. 🚨🇵🇹 #NFFC

Huge opportunity for William in the Premier League with ambitious club like NFFC, pushing to sign him as priority target."

My days, we were linked with him for so long his player profile picture may as well have been a cave painting.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 27, 2022, 12:33:04 PM
My days, we were linked with him for so long his player profile picture may as well have been a cave painting.

It is, next to Dindanes, scouting and transfer team still deciding if he's still worth going for.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on July 27, 2022, 12:36:12 PM
It is, next to Dindanes, scouting and transfer team still deciding if he's still worth going for.

Talking of Dindane he's probably fossilised by now  ;D .
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 27, 2022, 12:39:12 PM
Talking of Dindane he's probably fossilised by now  ;D .

Easy Dan, he's about my age  ;D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 27, 2022, 12:46:35 PM
John Percy
@JPercyTelegraph
Another player departure from Burnley could be happening soon... #Everton are in talks to sign winger Dwight McNeil and hopeful of agreeing a deal. Negotiations ongoing #efc
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 27, 2022, 01:05:03 PM
Just saw this from yesterday while on subject of Forest transfer frenzy

"Joseph Perry
@mrjosephperry
EXCLUSIVE: understand Nottingham Forest are holding out for an £8m-10m front-of-shirt sponsorship deal after rebuffing at least two multi-million-pound offers. Club could start season without a sponsor (or donate it to a charity). #nffc"

Holding out for what they want is risky and ballsy. Trying to become one of the big boys
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hull Baggie on July 27, 2022, 01:35:52 PM
Just saw this from yesterday while on subject of Forest transfer frenzy

"Joseph Perry
@mrjosephperry
EXCLUSIVE: understand Nottingham Forest are holding out for an £8m-10m front-of-shirt sponsorship deal after rebuffing at least two multi-million-pound offers. Club could start season without a sponsor (or donate it to a charity). #nffc"

Holding out for what they want is risky and ballsy. Trying to become one of the big boys

They will have their wish next season...back in the Championship.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: jimmyj on July 27, 2022, 02:07:26 PM
John Percy
@JPercyTelegraph
Another player departure from Burnley could be happening soon... #Everton are in talks to sign winger Dwight McNeil and hopeful of agreeing a deal. Negotiations ongoing #efc

I always quite rated McNeil but an Everton supporting friend of mine posted his stats on twitter and for an attacking winger, they're not impressive. In the last four full premier league seasons he's played 20+ games for Burnley but never scored more than 3 goals in a season. None at all last season despite 38 appearances. Thats pretty poor.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 27, 2022, 03:19:25 PM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Surprising move for Burnley - set to sign Brazilian right back Vitinho from Cercle Brugge. It’s done, agreement in place, been told it will be official soon. Medical already completed 🚨🇧🇷 #transfers

Contract until June 2026 agreed, as Kompany wanted Vitinho as priority target.


Never heard of him.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 27, 2022, 03:23:16 PM
I always quite rated McNeil but an Everton supporting friend of mine posted his stats on twitter and for an attacking winger, they're not impressive. In the last four full premier league seasons he's played 20+ games for Burnley but never scored more than 3 goals in a season. None at all last season despite 38 appearances. Thats pretty poor.

I do like McNeil from the games i've seen him play and those stats are very surprising. Maybe they betray his contributions a little.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on July 27, 2022, 04:03:51 PM
I do like McNeil from the games i've seen him play and those stats are very surprising. Maybe they betray his contributions a little.
I think you have to be careful with stats for a player like McNeil in a team like Burnley who didn’t play the most expansive of games
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 27, 2022, 06:21:31 PM
I think you have to be careful with stats for a player like McNeil in a team like Burnley who didn’t play the most expansive of games

Romano just said the fee is upto 18m including add ons.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 28, 2022, 08:40:37 AM
I’m not sure he’s that great to be honest - a glorified Lloyd Dyer.

Everton are in the dog muck here. Be amazed if Lampard lasts the season.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on July 28, 2022, 09:00:17 AM
As well as Everton I am intrigued by what’s happening at Leicester. An awful lot of players leaving or being strongly linked with moves away and yet from what I’ve seen and read very few front line players either joining or being linked with them .
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on July 28, 2022, 12:44:35 PM
could be the kids aren't as enthusiastic anymore as Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha was.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 28, 2022, 10:02:15 PM
Birmingham signing Bielik on loan from Derby. Good player at this level if stays fit
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on July 30, 2022, 07:43:19 AM
John Percy Tweeted

Excl: Newcastle have made a £40m bid for #lcfc attacking midfielder James Maddison. Offer was submitted yesterday and turned down. Newcastle considering an improved offer #nufc

Read earlier Leicester are offering an improved contract to Maddison and this is probably the reason why.

But £50m could seal the deal
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BalisPen on July 31, 2022, 01:55:42 PM
Maddison is better than greasy Jack and if they get him for £50m they have got him cheaply in today's inflated market.

Let's hope our former Cov youth chief finds gems like him and Callum Wilson for us too soon.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on July 31, 2022, 05:49:11 PM
Another one for Forest


"Nottingham Forest have completed their 12th signing of the window to take their summer transfer outlay to nearly £100million.

Forest announced the signing of midfielder Orel Mangala from VfB Stuttgart on Sunday in a deal worth £12.8m."
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 01, 2022, 09:39:43 AM
Tavernier to Bournemouth officially done and signed.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hull Baggie on August 01, 2022, 12:35:02 PM
As good as Boro looked in the first half on Saturday I think their season could well depend on how well they spend the £26+ Million they have received in fees.
They definitely need a striker or two and as good as their fullbacks/wingbacks were I'm not sure what cover they have for them.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 01, 2022, 12:59:01 PM
As good as Boro looked in the first half on Saturday I think their season could well depend on how well they spend the £26+ Million they have received in fees.
They definitely need a striker or two and as good as their fullbacks/wingbacks were I'm not sure what cover they have for them.

Agree completely. I didnt realise how light their squad was until I heard one of their fans on a podcast.

It seems almost like last week one person predicted them to win the league based on two factors, Wilder and the money likely to be available to spend. That's gathered pace and now they seem to have become the trendy pick amongst many 'pundits' and  people on twitter.

They've got a really solid back 3 and wingbacks at this level -  Fry, Lenihan plus another, with Giles and Jones is probably as good as anything Wilder ever had in this division at Sheffield United and and its a great core for his style, but their midfield and strikers aren't going to win leagues and they don't have much depth.

I'd expect Gibson will allow Wilder to spend the best part of £20m though, and I wouldn't put it past him to allow even more given the money made. We could do with them misfiring on a few signings because if they add to that base well, they really will be strong.  We perhaps played them at a good time and they still could have been out of sight at half time.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 01, 2022, 01:44:40 PM
Said it in the other forum, Boro's attack is really weak for what they are trying to achieve.

When the big lump Coburn came on for them in the second half i was delighted as he's terrible. Just a physical threat, nothing else.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 01, 2022, 02:35:45 PM
We Can Sneaking Out

Fabio Silva moves to Anderlecht on loan two seasons after joining Wolves for £34m, this might be the development move the player needs to kick start a career that has faltered or Wolves shuffling the player out the door.

Sometimes life comes at you quickly. At 22 Matthijs de Ligt moved to Bayern Munich for the second £50m plus transfer of his career. It is hard to call him a flop but his time at Juventus hasn’t quite worked out and the club has taken a £10m loss on the deal. I suspect the German Champions stylistically will suit the young Dutchman a little more and he will go from strength to strength.

Meanwhile down in Catalonia

Barcelona is still a mess. The loan from 6th Street Investment might stabilise them but  having mortgaged the future they take the plunge and spend £40m on Robert Lewandowski plus a very big wage on a 4 year contract. While still haggling over the wages that they owe Frenkie de Jong.

They have also signed Jules Koundé having apparently matched Chelsea’s terms for the player. There was a question mark as to whether they can register Raphina and Lewandowski. I don't know where this leaves the former Sevilla Centre Back. It is an epic financial juggling act and I would laugh like a drain if it fell to pieces.

Cor Blimey Guvnor 

The rest of this post will be written in unintelligible Cockney Patios because West Ham have only gone and signed Gianluca Scamacca from Sassuolo for £34m. Now that is an eye watering amount of money for a 23 year old who really only came to prominence last season but he looks a talent and West Ham need a Centre Forward. I think this might be quite a smart bit of business.

Championship Corner

The market seems to be heating up. Loans are starting to become more prominent. The green eyed monster has barely stirred this window but a couple of right backs have moved and I kind of like Smallbone, Parrott and Bielek (If he can stay fit) but it has only opened half an eye.

Loans

Rhys Williams Liverpool to Blackpool
Jamie Shackleton Leeds To Millwall
Zack Steffen Man City to ‘Boro
Tino Anjorin Chelsea to Huddersfield
Taylor Richards Brighton to QPR
Will Smallbone Southampton to Stoke
Grant Hall ‘Boro to Rotherham
Troy Parrott Spurs to Preston
Reda Khadra Brighton to Sheffield United
Krystian Bielik Derby to Birmingham
Álvaro Fernandez Man United to Preston
Mamadou Loum Porto to Reading
Scott High Huddersfield to Rotherham
Theo Corbeanu Wolves to Blackpool
Jaden Philogene-Bidace Villa to Cardiff

Frees

Benjamin Tetteh Yeni Malatyaspor to Hull City
Ben Harmer Swansea to Watford
Sam Hutchinson Sheffield Wednesday to Reading
Ryan Nyambe Blackburn to Wigan
Dwight Gayle Newcastle to Stoke
Tommy Smith Stoke to ‘Boro
Lee Peltier ‘Boro to Rotherham
Mario Gaspar Villarreal to Watford
Lee Peltier ‘Boro to Rotherham

Fees

Callum Brittain Barnsley to Blackburn £1m
Arijanet Muric Man City to Burnley £2.7m
Dominic Thompson Brentford to Blackpool £0.5m
Alex Bass Portsmouth to Sunderland
Marcus Forss Brentford to ‘Boro £3.25m
Vitinho Cercle Brugge to Burnley £0.9m
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BalisPen on August 01, 2022, 04:33:05 PM
We Can Sneaking Out

Fabio Silva moves to Anderlecht on loan two seasons after joining Wolves for £34m, this might be the development move the player needs to kick start a career that has faltered or Wolves shuffling the player out the door.

Sometimes life comes at you quickly. At 22 Matthijs de Ligt moved to Bayern Munich for the second £50m plus transfer of his career. It is hard to call him a flop but his time at Juventus hasn’t quite worked out and the club has taken a £10m loss on the deal. I suspect the German Champions stylistically will suit the young Dutchman a little more and he will go from strength to strength.

Meanwhile down in Catalonia

Barcelona is still a mess. The loan from 6th Street Investment might stabilise them but  having mortgaged the future they take the plunge and spend £40m on Robert Lewandowski plus a very big wage on a 4 year contract. While still haggling over the wages that they owe Frenkie de Jong.

They have also signed Jules Koundé having apparently matched Chelsea’s terms for the player. There was a question mark as to whether they can register Raphina and Lewandowski. I don't know where this leaves the former Sevilla Centre Back. It is an epic financial juggling act and I would laugh like a drain if it fell to pieces.

Cor Blimey Guvnor 

The rest of this post will be written in unintelligible Cockney Patios because West Ham have only gone and signed Gianluca Scamacca from Sassuolo for £34m. Now that is an eye watering amount of money for a 23 year old who really only came to prominence last season but he looks a talent and West Ham need a Centre Forward. I think this might be quite a smart bit of business.

Championship Corner

The market seems to be heating up. Loans are starting to become more prominent. The green eyed has barely stirred this window but a couple of right backs have moved and I kind of like Smallbone, Parrott and Bielek (If he can stay fit) but it has only opened half an eye.

Loans

Rhys Williams Liverpool to Blackpool
Jamie Shackleton Leeds To Millwall
Zack Steffen Man City to ‘Boro
Tino Anjorin Chelsea to Huddersfield
Taylor Richards Brighton to QPR
Will Smallbone Southampton to Stoke
Grant Hall ‘Boro to Rotherham
Troy Parrott Spurs to Preston
Reda Khadra Brighton to Sheffield United
Krystian Bielik Derby to Birmingham
Álvaro Fernandez Man United to Preston
Mamadou Loum Porto to Reading
Scott High Huddersfield to Rotherham
Theo Corbeanu Wolves to Blackpool
Jaden Philogene-Bidace Villa to Cardiff

Frees

Benjamin Tetteh Yeni Malatyaspor to Hull City
Ben Harmer Swansea to Watford
Sam Hutchinson Sheffield Wednesday to Reading
Ryan Nyambe Blackburn to Wigan
Dwight Gayle Newcastle to Stoke
Tommy Smith Stoke to ‘Boro
Lee Peltier ‘Boro to Rotherham
Mario Gaspar Villarreal to Watford
Lee Peltier ‘Boro to Rotherham

Fees

Callum Brittain Barnsley to Blackburn £1m
Arijanet Muric Man City to Burnley £2.7m
Dominic Thompson Brentford to Blackpool £0.5m
Alex Bass Portsmouth to Sunderland
Marcus Forss Brentford to ‘Boro £3.25m
Vitinho Cercle Brugge to Burnley £0.9m

Thanks for that.

I didn't know the Lewandowski fee was £40m on a 4 year contract. Absolutely crazy.

Same with the Forss fee, I thought it was a free. Hopefully, Wilder's shidas touch with forwards continues.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 02, 2022, 04:40:30 PM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Manchester City have completed full agreement with Sheffield United for James McAtee season-long loan. 🔵🤝 #MCFC

Sheffield set to announce McAtee as new signing this week.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 02, 2022, 04:54:59 PM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Manchester City have completed full agreement with Sheffield United for James McAtee season-long loan. 🔵🤝 #MCFC

Sheffield set to announce McAtee as new signing this week.

On paper and reputation, McAtee and Doyle are two of the best young premier league loans that were likely to be available. At least one of those should have been on our radar to help us give Swift a break or cope without him.  Man City's U23's could have big impact on the league this year.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 02, 2022, 05:39:00 PM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Official. Chelsea have reached an agreement for permanent transfer of Carney Chukwuemeka! Done deal just completed. 🚨🔵 #CFC

“The 18-year-old has been given permission to travel to London to discuss both personal terms and undergo a medical”, statement confirms.



EDIT - 15m basic fee, 6 year deal,
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 02, 2022, 05:40:10 PM
On paper and reputation, McAtee and Doyle are two of the best young premier league loans that were likely to be available. At least one of those should have been on our radar to help us give Swift a break or cope without him.  Man City's U23's could have big impact on the league this year.



We will have to wait and see i guess. Many PL big boys from the u23s come and do little or nothing special at least. As for being on our radar most of these kind of players don't seem to fit Bruces experience requirements
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 02, 2022, 05:57:42 PM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Official. Chelsea have reached an agreement for permanent transfer of Carney Chukwuemeka! Done deal just completed. 🚨🔵 #CFC

“The 18-year-old has been given permission to travel to London to discuss both personal terms and undergo a medical”, statement confirms.



EDIT - 15m basic fee, 6 year deal,

Shame. Was hoping he would somewhere for free next year.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: bosh on August 02, 2022, 05:57:48 PM
Would it be cheeky to see if Chelsea will loan him out? I'm sure they would just to give him experience. Also the thought of the seals faces would be something to relish.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 02, 2022, 06:30:22 PM
Would it be cheeky to see if Chelsea will loan him out? I'm sure they would just to give him experience. Also the thought of the seals faces would be something to relish.

He's definitely getting loaned out but can't see him here.

Vitesse Arnhem usually for Chelsea i think.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Fritzl Palace on August 02, 2022, 06:48:12 PM
But we’m a massive club ay we, won the European Cup!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 02, 2022, 07:07:49 PM
Villa get Ireogbunam for Peanuts, the player he probably dislodged then moves on for £15m. Villa will be laughing, a crazy fee if true.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BalisPen on August 02, 2022, 07:08:42 PM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Official. Chelsea have reached an agreement for permanent transfer of Carney Chukwuemeka! Done deal just completed. 🚨🔵 #CFC

“The 18-year-old has been given permission to travel to London to discuss both personal terms and undergo a medical”, statement confirms.



EDIT - 15m basic fee, 6 year deal,

How did the scum get £15m for him?

Wasn't this the same as them stealing our prospects for £200k or had he signed something with them?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Fritzl Palace on August 02, 2022, 07:09:22 PM
How did the scum get £15m for him?

Wasn't this the same as them stealing our prospects for £200k or had he signed something with them?

He had a professional contract, it was just expiring in a year and he wasn’t going to sign a new one
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 02, 2022, 07:20:44 PM
Villa get Ireogbunam for Peanuts, the player he probably dislodged then moves on for £15m. Villa will be laughing, a crazy fee if true.

Ireogbunam didn’t displace him, Chukwuemeka is incredibly highly rated and probably Villa’s crown jewel.  He was also England’s top scorer at the Euro’s.

It is a joke that one goes for free and another for £15m though.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BalisPen on August 02, 2022, 07:39:17 PM
He had a professional contract, it was just expiring in a year and he wasn’t going to sign a new one

Thanks, that's why I was asking if he had signed something. I didn't know he had a pro contract.

£15m is a lot though for unproven talent. Hopefully they waste it like the greasy money.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 02, 2022, 08:38:35 PM
Ireogbunam didn’t displace him, Chukwuemeka is incredibly highly rated and probably Villa’s crown jewel.  He was also England’s top scorer at the Euro’s.

It is a joke that one goes for free and another for £15m though.

I reckon he did in terms of opportunity. Part of the reason Carney is allegedly moving on is down to his feeling that he had had a lack of opportunities. There's no denying Villa have a number of academy kids to play in those positions, including the Ramsey brothers and now Ireogbunam. There is no way a premier league manager will play more than 1 young central midfielder at a time, so when they brought in Ireogbunam and started giving him game time  it cut down on the amount of opportunities Carney had to get minutes.

(Alert -I know this will be mocked before I say it, but); I tweeted similar in reply to a Villa journalist a couple of months ago and had a fairly high profile Villa academy kid like the tweet, which lends weight to the theory he probably wasn't that happy at having his path blocked indirectly.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 02, 2022, 09:25:46 PM
Ireogbunam didn’t displace him, Chukwuemeka is incredibly highly rated and probably Villa’s crown jewel.  He was also England’s top scorer at the Euro’s.

It is a joke that one goes for free and another for £15m though.
id imagine that's a heavily broken down fee. They may get £1-2m now and the rest for certain goals met, doubt they'll see much of that money in the end.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 02, 2022, 09:27:52 PM
I reckon he did in terms of opportunity. Part of the reason Carney is allegedly moving on is down to his feeling that he had had a lack of opportunities. There's no denying Villa have a number of academy kids to play in those positions, including the Ramsey brothers and now Ireogbunam. There is no way a premier league manager will play more than 1 young central midfielder at a time, so when they brought in Ireogbunam and started giving him game time  it cut down on the amount of opportunities Carney had to get minutes.

(Alert -I know this will be mocked before I say it, but); I tweeted similar in reply to a Villa journalist a couple of months ago and had a fairly high profile Villa academy kid like the tweet, which lends weight to the theory he probably wasn't that happy at having his path blocked indirectly.

I see what you mean now but neither got too much opportunity. CC was on the bench pretty much every week last season and played 12 times for a total of 294 minutes. TI was also on the bench for the second half of the season and got 3 appearances for 93 minutes. Being on the first team bench also seem to  mean youth minutes were affected. The minutes at Chelsea will likely be worse though.

He could sign and go out on loan. It’s what he will need to do at at Chelsea. For this reason I still think it’s probably about money.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 02, 2022, 09:28:32 PM
id imagine that's a heavily broken down fee. They may get £1-2m now and the rest for certain goals met, doubt they'll see much of that money in the end.

Was reported as 15m guaranteed and another 5m in potential add ons. 20m in total max.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 02, 2022, 09:32:07 PM
Twitter rumours are Carney has moved for 100k PW but no one respected has confirmed it that I can see yet.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 03, 2022, 02:33:13 AM
The hierarchy in terms of English football clubs is pretty hard wired and for all their owners wealth and ambition Villa are a mid level Premier League Club. If a super league 6 club wants one of their players then the player will by and large want to go and the rest is just haggling about the price. With a young player of promise like Chukwuemeka there might be a counter argument about game time but when you consider that there might be as few as one place up for grabs in Central Midfield and as many as 7 players competing for it frankly that should cut very little ice with the player and hasn't.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: NJS on August 03, 2022, 01:22:53 PM
I watched Chukwuemeka in the recent U-19 European cup victory.  It was very close until Iroegbunam was brought on.  He steadied the midfield defence and played some good passes out from there.  I think the Vile have made a good choice for a change.  Frustrating that we couldn't have held on to Tim
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 03, 2022, 07:02:35 PM
𝐃𝐄𝐀𝐋 𝐃𝐎𝐍𝐄: Kasper Schmeichel has signed for OGC Nice on a contract until June 2025. €1M + add ons.

I wasn’t expecting that to be honest
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 03, 2022, 07:04:52 PM
𝐃𝐄𝐀𝐋 𝐃𝐎𝐍𝐄: Kasper Schmeichel has signed for OGC Nice on a contract until June 2025. €1M + add ons.

I wasn’t expecting that to be honest

Still a top keeper for me, don’t understand this move from his or Leicesters point of view. 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on August 03, 2022, 07:37:20 PM
𝐃𝐄𝐀𝐋 𝐃𝐎𝐍𝐄: Kasper Schmeichel has signed for OGC Nice on a contract until June 2025. €1M + add ons.

I wasn’t expecting that to be honest
He probably has as good a chance of being involved in European football with Nice. Lucien Favre is the new manager there, and I can see him building quite a useful outfit.

Probably makes it less likely Leicester will want to release their other keeper we were recently linked with.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 04, 2022, 10:46:08 AM
Unusual for Chelsea, they must really rate him.

"@FabrizioRomano
Todd Boehly confirms that Carney Chukwuemeka will stay at Chelsea, no loan move: “He’s one of the most exciting young players in Europe, we are delighted to add such a talented young individual to our squad for the new season and beyond”. 🔵 #CFC"
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on August 04, 2022, 10:52:43 AM
Unusual for Chelsea, they must really rate him.

"@FabrizioRomano
Todd Boehly confirms that Carney Chukwuemeka will stay at Chelsea, no loan move: “He’s one of the most exciting young players in Europe, we are delighted to add such a talented young individual to our squad for the new season and beyond”. 🔵 #CFC"

That's a shame, the meltdown at Seal Park would have been epic if we could have got him in on loan. Never mind at least we don't get to swell the coffers of Chelsea's human farming policies.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 04, 2022, 10:54:36 AM
That's a shame, the meltdown at Seal Park would have been epic if we could have got him in on loan. Never mind at least we don't get to swell the coffers of Chelsea's human farming policies.

Never any chance he would come here sadly although anything that makes those bedwetters cry has to be attempted and supported.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on August 04, 2022, 11:52:14 AM
Still a top keeper for me, don’t understand this move from his or Leicesters point of view.
Leicester seem to be or on the verge of selling a lot of their better players without as of yet having signed any replacements , strange goings on !
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 04, 2022, 12:17:57 PM
Sae a report suggestinf Forest are looking at signing number 13 - a striker with an unfortunate name from the Netherlands.

I thought they did some decent business early on and they probably have, but once again they are starting to look a bit scattergun. Old habits die hard.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 04, 2022, 12:25:56 PM
Slightly surprised to see Lewis Bate go on loan to Oxford United. Leeds took him from Chelsea last summer in their big youth recruitment drive and at the time he was considered one of the top young midfielders in the country. With him turning 20 in a couple of months time, I thought he might end up in the championship, league 1 feels like a bit of a drop.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: skyclad99 on August 04, 2022, 01:33:32 PM
Leicester seem to be or on the verge of selling a lot of their better players without as of yet having signed any replacements , strange goings on !

You get the impression all is not well there. I suspect that money is tight following covid as no one was travelling and using King Power outlets. I think Rodgers days there are numbered as well...
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 04, 2022, 02:11:09 PM
Forest reported to be in for Che Adams from Southampton
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 04, 2022, 02:52:07 PM
Slightly off topic but it amazes me what Burnley and Watford have come down with compared to what we did.

We only really had Pereira that was sellable and we sold him cheap. Perhaps Johnstone but nobody would pay what we wanted.

Burnley have sold Collins, Pope and McNeil for over £50m and are looking likely to sell Cornet for £17.5m to West Ham. Watford have sold Hernandez and Masons for £12m and have Dennis, Sarr and Pedro who are probably collectively worth near £50m should they choose to sell. 



Even Forest who despite now seeming to be a little more haphazard, are likely to come down with some decent assets if they get relegated.





Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 04, 2022, 05:55:50 PM
Burnley have signed Manuel Benson from Antwerp.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 05, 2022, 12:36:37 PM
Chelsea have signed Cucarella from Brighton for upto 63m!! according to the Athletic.

56m guaranteed and 7m in top ups.

Nuts
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 05, 2022, 01:29:28 PM
Chelsea have signed Cucarella from Brighton for upto 63m!! according to the Athletic.

56m guaranteed and 7m in top ups.

Nuts

Just Confirmed by Chelsea FC Twitter Account

CLUB STATEMENT: MARC CUCURELLA.

Following reports from numerous media outlets this week, we can confirm an agreement has been reached with Brighton and Hove Albion for the signing of Marc Cucurella.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Fritzl Palace on August 05, 2022, 03:25:27 PM
Strange one really given that City do not have a left back currently and he seemed to be their #1 target. They will fill in for now with Cancelo playing there, or Ake and Laporte where necessary, but if they are looking to win the Champions League they need a top quality left back with Cancelo playing in his natural position over Walker.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 05, 2022, 06:38:34 PM
"Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
West Ham have signed paperwork and documents for Maxwel Cornet. Done deal, it will be announced tonight - contract valid until June 2027 plus one-year option to extend. ⚒️🇫🇷 #WHUFC

Contract also signed, shout-out @ExWHUemployee and @FabriceHawkins
Final fee will be £17.5m."
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 06, 2022, 04:47:00 AM
Not Many People Know that….

Former Albion midfielder Romaine Sawyers shares a birthday with Nice Head Coach Lucian Farve; both were born on 2nd November.  I am sure it has nothing to do with Nice being particularly busy this week in the transfer market but they have completed 4 transfers.

Mattia Viti from Empoli (£11.70m)
Kasper Schmeichel from Leicester City (£0.9m)
Aaron Ramsey from Juventus (free)
Alexis Beka Beka from Lokomotiv Moscow (£10.80m)

They join
 
Rares Ilie from FC Rapid (£4.50m)
Marcin Bulka from Paris Saint-Germain (£1.80m)

Who signed earlier in the window.

Nice are one of the few French clubs that are likely to have a net spend during the window. The Schmeichel deal  is the one that has caught the attention of the UK media, He has signed a 3 year deal with the club and I suspect the plan is that his career will dovetail with young Polish keeper Marcin Bulka. This could be a pretty good move for all parties,

Chelsea the same as it ever was

Carney Chukwuemeka has joined Chelsea from Villa. No big deal we have seen this play out dozens of times promising youngsters join Chelsea for a big fee then go out on loan for the next decade never quite make it at Chelsea etc… But hold on a minute the plan here is  that he stays and plays. Well that is different, new owners new ideas perhaps the influence of Tuchel from a league where clubs seem to trust young players more. We will wait and see.

They also just pay eye watering amounts of money for the next big thing that emerges in the Premier League and a fee of £55m for Marc Cucurella from Brighton is eye watering particularly after free spending Man City who don’t have a recognised Left Back balked at meeting the South Coast club’s valuation. Chelsea have 4 in their squad (total fees more than £100m), Maybe not the most logical of moves.

On the other side of the transaction Brighton have made a tidy profit and I do wonder if that will free up some funds to reinforce them beyond the loan signing of Levi Colwell  from Chelsea for the season. Although he really only replaces Shane Duffy who has been allowed to leave for Fulham on loan.

Meanwhile down the Mile End Road….

At some point West Ham got good at transfers; they continued to do good work picking up Max Cornett from Burnley for around £18m. There is a tactical fit player of a good age they own all his peak and not really an overpay.

Championship Corner

Fees and loans are now dominating the transactions as most free agents are fixed up with clubs although there are still about a dozen or so it would not surprise me to see land in the Championship. Noteworthy deals this week include  Burnley continuing to mine talent from the Belgium league and Norwich making their second foray into the South American market.

How well either move turns out is anybody's guess but two of the wealthier clubs in the Division casting their net further afield might tell us something.

Loans

Aaron Ramsey Aston Villa to Norwich
James McAtee Man City to Sheffield United
Charlie Patino Arsenal to Blackpool
Tyler Morton Liverpool to Blackburn

Fees

Benson Manuel Hedilazio Royal Antwerp to Burnley (£3.6m)
Marcelino Núñez Universidad Católica to Norwich (£3.25m)
Aribim Pepple Calvary Fc to Luton Town
Sammie Szmodics Peterborough to Blackbun Rovers (£2.5m)

Frees

Connal Trueman Birmingham City to Millwall

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 07, 2022, 12:21:15 PM
Didn't realise McAtee had gone to Sheff Utd. Highly rated young English midfielder, seen as a potential big star. Would have preferred he had gone elsewhere rather than a rival. It seems a number of the best young loanees are already heading to top championship clubs. Fingers crossed we manage to get somebody of note.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 07, 2022, 01:18:16 PM
Slightly off topic but it amazes me what Burnley and Watford have come down with compared to what we did.

We only really had Pereira that was sellable and we sold him cheap. Perhaps Johnstone but nobody would pay what we wanted.

Burnley have sold Collins, Pope and McNeil for over £50m and are looking likely to sell Cornet for £17.5m to West Ham. Watford have sold Hernandez and Masons for £12m and have Dennis, Sarr and Pedro who are probably collectively worth near £50m should they choose to sell. 



Even Forest who despite now seeming to be a little more haphazard, are likely to come down with some decent assets if they get relegated.

I've been like a broken record for a few years now, after every transfer window. There has been no legacy planning in our transfer business, meaning we have very little available to sell and restart the cycle. I often get replies saying its moaning, saying we should only focus on the here and now, saying how hard it is to sign players with potential etc, but other clubs manage it and do it a lot better than us.

Even this summer, we have made 3 signings, all of an age and with a career to date that makes it highly unlikely we will be able to make any money in the event of us failing to get promotion. Instead, we will be relying on a youth academy that we dont use (and can't retain players from any way) or hoping the few players we have with potential like Dike come good.

We should follow Dsn Ashworth's lead and sign atkeast 1 young player each window who is purely being brought in for the future, ala Dorrans, Dawson, Mulumbu etc.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 07, 2022, 04:24:08 PM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Everton are set to sign Conor Coady, agreement in principle with Wolves - going to be a loan with buy clause also included as  @_pauljoyce
 reports 🔵 #EFC

Personal terms almost agreed, Coady wants the move. Details discussed while Onana will be announced as new Everton player soon.



Didn't realise he had fallen out of favour at the Dingles.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on August 07, 2022, 04:40:48 PM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Everton are set to sign Conor Coady, agreement in principle with Wolves - going to be a loan with buy clause also included as  @_pauljoyce
 reports 🔵 #EFC

Personal terms almost agreed, Coady wants the move. Details discussed while Onana will be announced as new Everton player soon. Everton, another PL club with more money than sense.



Didn't realise he had fallen out of favour at the Dingles.
Amused to read Everton in for Onana at £33 million. I saw quite a bit of him 2 years ago playing for Hamburger SV in the Bundesliga 2nd division. Basically just a squad player. Maybe worth £3 miillion at a push.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 07, 2022, 04:44:52 PM
Amused to read Everton in for Onana at £33 million. I saw quite a bit of him 2 years ago playing for Hamburger SV in the Bundesliga 2nd division. Basically just a squad player. Maybe worth £3 miillion at a push.

Don't know anything about him at all Alex but Everton are another badly run club so wouldn't surprise me they pay over the odds.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on August 07, 2022, 05:07:57 PM
Don't know anything about him at all Alex but Everton are another badly run club so wouldn't surprise me they pay over the odds.
Lampard raving a bit about him, but last summer Lille paid Hamburger SV around £6 million. Everton , another PL club with more money than sense. 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 07, 2022, 07:09:45 PM
John Percy just Tweeted

#nffc have agreed a fee of around £9m with Real Betis for left-back/left-winger Alex Moreno. Medical in next few days, set to be 13th summer signing. Forest working on other new additions before window closes

I have a horrible feeling, this isn’t going to go well for Forest, hope I’m wrong
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on August 07, 2022, 07:42:04 PM
John Percy just Tweeted

#nffc have agreed a fee of around £9m with Real Betis for left-back/left-winger Alex Moreno. Medical in next few days, set to be 13th summer signing. Forest working on other new additions before window closes

I have a horrible feeling, this isn’t going to go well for Forest, hope I’m wrong
Its a bit of a slap in the face to the players who got Forest promoted. Of course they are going to reinforce certain positions, but 13 new signings is a complete new team. Notice they got beaten yesterday.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Topman on August 07, 2022, 09:18:42 PM
John Percy just Tweeted

#nffc have agreed a fee of around £9m with Real Betis for left-back/left-winger Alex Moreno. Medical in next few days, set to be 13th summer signing. Forest working on other new additions before window closes

I have a horrible feeling, this isn’t going to go well for Forest, hope I’m wrong



Sorry I hope it goes terribly wrong for them. Horrid club
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on August 07, 2022, 10:08:50 PM


Sorry I hope it goes terribly wrong for them. Horrid club

Why?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Topman on August 07, 2022, 10:28:24 PM
Why?



They are this years villa. Now linked with Morgan Gibbs white for 40m. The game is mad. I always found Thier fans conceited, like the expect to be better than they are.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 08, 2022, 11:50:39 AM
Fulham are set to sign Issa Diop on permanent deal from West Ham. Full agreement in place and new signing for Marco Silva. ⚪️⚫️ #FulhamFC

Fee will be around £15m package, as @JacobSteinberg reports. Diop will undergo medical tests soon. https://t.co/WmCLK2fhfk



Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 10, 2022, 06:05:07 PM
Bloody hell Leeds move quicker next time. We would have won if he hadn't played.

"Santi Aouna
@Santi_J_FM

🚨 Inf: Leeds and Watford are close to a verbal agreement for Ismaïla Sarr 🇸🇳 .

 â–  Contract negotiations between the former Rennais and Leeds are also progressing.

 â–  But his arrival in Leeds remains conditional on the departure of a player."
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 10, 2022, 06:12:22 PM
Boro sign USA International Matthew Hoppe Joins From Mallorca. Official on a 4 year deal. Not a clue myself. Just know he's a striker.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Blowee on August 10, 2022, 06:13:20 PM
Bloody hell Leeds move quicker next time. We would have won if he hadn't played.

"Santi Aouna
@Santi_J_FM

🚨 Inf: Leeds and Watford are close to a verbal agreement for Ismaïla Sarr 🇸🇳 .

 â–  Contract negotiations between the former Rennais and Leeds are also progressing.

 â–  But his arrival in Leeds remains conditional on the departure of a player."
Who might the departure be? A striker?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Blowee on August 10, 2022, 06:15:10 PM
Boro sign USA International Matthew Hoppe Joins From Mallorca. Official on a 4 year deal. Not a clue myself. Just know he's a striker.
Just hoppe for them they have more luck with American strikers than us!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 10, 2022, 06:20:01 PM
Just hoppe for them they have more luck with American strikers than us!

I don't!! I hope they have worse luck they are a rival!


As for the Leeds news not a clue mate
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 10, 2022, 10:58:05 PM
Another one for Forest it seems

"Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Nottingham Forest are now getting closer to signing Remo Freuler. Fee around €9m discussed with Atalanta and progressing to the final stages. 🚨🇨🇭 #NFFC

Freuler wants Nottingham Forest as priority."
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: tommcneill on August 10, 2022, 11:41:59 PM
Hamza Choudhory has signed for Watford on a season long loan.

Good signing for them
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 11, 2022, 02:34:14 PM
Ethan Laird sifgning for QPR on loan from Man U.   Is he a decent RB?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 11, 2022, 03:40:00 PM
Nottingham Forest have made a £20m bid to Watford for Emmanuel Dennis.

The deal is almost sealed and could be complete by the weekend.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 11, 2022, 03:42:28 PM
Nottingham Forest have made a £20m bid to Watford for Emmanuel Dennis.

The deal is almost sealed and could be complete by the weekend.

Looking at Watfords losses over the last few years i wondered how they could afford to keep that front 3. Inevitable that one has to go at least.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 11, 2022, 04:06:20 PM
Looking at Watfords losses over the last few years i wondered how they could afford to keep that front 3. Inevitable that one has to go at least.
sarr may be gone soon too if the Leeds interest holds water.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 11, 2022, 04:07:15 PM
sarr is may be to be gone soon too if the Leeds interest holds water.


I think you would be right. The losses are huge and the owner is 'only' worth 100m ish
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 12, 2022, 09:06:00 AM
First, Keinan Davis is at #WatfordFC for a medical ahead of a loan move with a view to a permanent deal.

#WBA made a late push.

Watford also still want Kortney Hause.

Story w/ @AdamLeventhal
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 12, 2022, 11:07:32 AM
Davis for Dennis is a definite downgrade though which is now very close apparently
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Fritzl Palace on August 12, 2022, 11:13:50 AM
If they lose each of Sarr, Pedro and Dennis, replacing them with Davis and Rey Manaj significantly weakens them, which is probably the understatement of the year.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 12, 2022, 01:17:44 PM
John Percy just Tweeted

#nffc are close to three further signings. Watford forward Emmanuel Dennis is set for a medical later today, fee of around £15m agreed. Former #cpfc midfielder Cheikhou Kouyate also expected to sign. Switzerland international Remo Freuler passed his medical last night
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 12, 2022, 01:23:23 PM
I’m really hope Forests signings back fire horribly.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 12, 2022, 01:28:39 PM
Forest look like they are going over board. Some good signings, but no way they all gel.

Dennis for £15m however feels a steal.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: skyclad99 on August 12, 2022, 01:39:42 PM
Forest look like they are going over board. Some good signings, but no way they all gel.

Dennis for £15m however feels a steal.

Spending like lottery winners, seen this before and it often doesn’t end well
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 12, 2022, 03:01:22 PM
What a team Forest will have in the EFL though. Next season's Fulham
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 13, 2022, 08:15:01 AM
Bordeaux have accepted an offer of 4m euros (£3.4m) from Nottingham Forest for 29-year-old South Korea striker Hwang Ui-jo. (L'Equipe - in French)

Forest are set to launch a fresh £30m bid for Wolves' English midfielder Morgan Gibbs-White, 22, after having a £25m off plus add-ons rejected. (Mirror)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 13, 2022, 08:28:53 AM
Looking at Watfords losses over the last few years i wondered how they could afford to keep that front 3. Inevitable that one has to go at least.

I was speaking to another poster on a different forum who had connections to Watford who pretty much said it was **** or bust. They needed the fire sales and were surprised to see it take so long.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 13, 2022, 08:35:26 AM
I was speaking to another poster on a different forum who had connections to Watford who pretty much said it was **** or bust. They needed the fire sales and were surprised to see it take so long.


It does seem that way. If i was the owner i'd sell the star players and recoup the money. Live to fight another day and rebuild for PL rather than bankrupt the club.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: baggies_24 on August 13, 2022, 08:40:28 AM
Forest are throwing money around like it’s going out of fashion, surely they are making an unsustainable loss on transfers & wages this year.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 13, 2022, 11:57:02 AM
Another for Forest. This is nuts

Brighton striker Neal Maupay in talks over a deal to Nottingham Forest. Fee in region of 15m during hectic period of business for promoted #NFFC Not expected to be in the matchday squad today #BHAFC  https://t.co/mCGNyASRO7
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on August 13, 2022, 12:01:17 PM
A striker that doesn’t score many to a team that will struggle to stay up , games gone safe ! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 13, 2022, 12:31:52 PM
Another one on a free for Forest. We are potentially witnessing the assembly of the greatest EFL squad in history 😂


🚨Info: Cheikhou Kouyaté 🇸🇳 a été LIBÉRÉ par Crystal Palace et signera un contrat de 2 ans avec Nottingham Forest 🌳🔴 #NFFC

https://t.co/A9SKNB49Gj https://t.co/re2nTBgEc7
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on August 13, 2022, 02:22:18 PM
Will be a lot of unhappy players at Forest who are not going to get a game. Full marks to Cooper if he can weld them into a team.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 13, 2022, 02:33:54 PM
𝐃𝐄𝐀𝐋 𝐃𝐎𝐍𝐄: Watford have signed Keinan Davis on a season-long loan from Aston Villa.

(Source: @WatfordFC)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 13, 2022, 11:35:45 PM
Dennis to Forest is officially done. On Forest OS
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: ChrisWBA17 on August 14, 2022, 12:45:12 PM
Trying to sign Sow from Frankfurt for £17 million as well now. He’s a great player but really struggling to figure out where all this money is coming from. Really hope it’s goes pear shaped for them
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 14, 2022, 06:31:51 PM
Houssem Aouar is close to joining Nottingham Forest! 🌳🇫🇷
(Source: @DiMarzio)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on August 14, 2022, 06:38:06 PM
Do these new players realise how many Forest already have on their books? Or do they all think they will force their way into the starting line-up?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 14, 2022, 07:27:34 PM
They have signed that many now i'm unsure if i'm re-posting players i've already mentioned in here

"Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Official and confirmed. Remo Freuler has joined Nottingham Forest on a permanent deal from Atalanta for €9m plus add-ons. 🚨🌳 #NFFC

Freuler was Atalanta’s captain but he wanted new chapter in PL, tempted by NFFC proposal. Done and sealed."
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 14, 2022, 07:48:33 PM
Chelsea have submitted a £40m bid to Everton for Anthony Gordon.
(Source: Sky Sports)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 14, 2022, 08:07:40 PM
Chelsea have submitted a £40m bid to Everton for Anthony Gordon.
(Source: Sky Sports)

That’s crazy. Everton should snap their hands off.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 14, 2022, 08:09:19 PM
Manchester United are in open negotiations with Espanyol's Raúl De Tomás - the forward is one of United's attacking options. If the interest advances, a transfer  is possible at €25-30m.
(Source: @pedro_morata, @partidazocope)

They’re going to need a whole team
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 15, 2022, 04:42:53 AM
Everton Get Busy

There is a whirl of speculation linking Everton with just every mid-range striker in Europe, which is entirely unsurprising given that Lampard was forced to field a team without a striker because of the absence of Calvin-Lewin.

Just focusing on the deals they have done this week they have bought in

Connor Coady on loan from Wolves
Amadou Onana from Lille for £30m

Well the first question is what’s the plan with Coady? If it is to play him in a back four then it’s a bad plan. If it is moving to a back 3 it torpedoes half the squad they have lots of wingers and fullbacks none of whom I much associate with being effective in that shape.

Fortunately Onana is a very promising player who isn’t a scuttling DM and he can play further forward so regardless of the formation he will improve the team. However that does not mean the fee was sensible for a player of limited experience.

Forest’s Super Charged Trolley Dash Continues

The arrival of Emanuel Dennis and Cheikhou Kouyaté took Forest’s signings to 14 (fourteen). They have now reached the point that they are signing players who aren’t going to play any significant part in their campaign or are replacing players they signed earlier in the window. There is a lot of duplication yet the signings show no sign of slowing down. At the current rate they could well be at 16 come tea time.

Championship Corner

The free market has all but come to an end. The loan merry-go-round continues to spin but transfers involving a fee, remain thin on the ground.

Loans

Nathan Broadhead Everton to Wigan
Hamza Choudhury Leicester City to Watford
Nathan Tella Southampton to Burnley
Ashley Fletcher Watford to Wigan
Keinan Davis Villa to Watford

Fees
Matthew Hoppe Mallorca to Middlesbrough £2.7m
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 15, 2022, 09:10:04 AM
SSN saying Man Utd have decided to sell James Garner and want around £15m. Forest interested. Why wouldn't they be!?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 15, 2022, 03:00:09 PM
"Laurie Whitwell
@lauriewhitwell
·
7m
Birmingham in talks to sign Hannibal Mejbri on loan. Several Championship clubs have shown interest, including Boro + WBA, but John Eustace’s side most advanced.

First call @RichFay


#MUFC"



Is this hannibal cannibal bloke any good?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on August 15, 2022, 03:36:31 PM
Burnley rumoured to be in talks to sign a winger from Stuttgart
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 15, 2022, 07:27:10 PM
John Percy Tweeted

Stoke transfer news - #Brentford winger Tariqe Fosu is set to sign on a season-long loan. Stoke are still hopeful of signing Man City striker Liam Delap on loan, despite competition from a number of other clubs including West Brom #scfc
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 15, 2022, 08:00:21 PM
Another one leaving Watford.

"Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Newcastle are pushing to sign João Pedro from Watford. New proposal expected ‘soon’ after opening bid rejected, as @skysports_sheth
 called today. 🚨⚪️⚫️ #NUFC

Been told first proposal was £20m plus £3m add-ons. Newcastle will try again soon."
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: tommcneill on August 15, 2022, 08:51:47 PM
Another one leaving Watford.

"Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Newcastle are pushing to sign João Pedro from Watford. New proposal expected ‘soon’ after opening bid rejected, as @skysports_sheth
 called today. 🚨⚪️⚫️ #NUFC

Been told first proposal was £20m plus £3m add-ons. Newcastle will try again soon."

Was Watford's standout player. Really impressed me. Good signing for Newcastle if they can get him in.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 15, 2022, 09:23:09 PM
Was Watford's standout player. Really impressed me. Good signing for Newcastle if they can get him in.

Great news for us if we can get a striker in to boost our own hopes
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 16, 2022, 08:30:29 AM
Matheus Nunes has accepted Wolves proposal, here we go! Full agreement finally completed also on personal terms, €50m fee [add-ons included] was already agreed 24h ago with Sporting. 🚨🛩🇵🇹 #WWFC

Medicals scheduled in England in order to get it signed. Huge signing for Wolves. https://t.co/Rh7gqTHXt1


Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: KYA on August 16, 2022, 08:41:34 AM
Matheus Nunes has accepted Wolves proposal, here we go! Full agreement finally completed also on personal terms, €50m fee [add-ons included] was already agreed 24h ago with Sporting. 🚨🛩🇵🇹 #WWFC

Medicals scheduled in England in order to get it signed. Huge signing for Wolves. https://t.co/Rh7gqTHXt1
The Premier League is crazy Wolves no disrespect are midtable and yet are paying £50M for a player and a tidy sum in wages, how are clubs like us with no sugar daddy supposed to compete hence why I have next to no interest in this greed league it's like a  league only the high rollers have any chance in.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 16, 2022, 08:43:45 AM
The Premier League is crazy Wolves no disrespect are midtable and yet are paying £50M for a player and a tidy sum in wages, how are clubs like us with no sugar daddy supposed to compete hence why I have next to no interest in this greed league it's like a  league only the high rollers have any chance in.


We need the PL to increase the chances of getting our garbage owner gone
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: clinton44 on August 16, 2022, 09:58:35 AM
He is one hell of a player. Gutted he is signing for them lot.
Their knuckledragging fans want Fosun out.
I would love them to pull out and leave them in the poop
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on August 16, 2022, 10:13:04 AM
How depressing. Wolves and Villa buying players for £40-£50 million and were scraping the barrel looking for loans and freebies. Makes me sick
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Topman on August 16, 2022, 10:18:57 AM
How depressing. Wolves and Villa buying players for £40-£50 million and were scraping the barrel looking for loans and freebies. Makes me sick




I agree, but it can change and will. I bet thought wheb they were relegated to Div 1 they’d never be in this situation. Who knows where we’ll be in the next ten years. Things can change quickly in football
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 16, 2022, 11:14:13 AM



I agree, but it can change and will. I bet thought wheb they were relegated to Div 1 they’d never be in this situation. Who knows where we’ll be in the next ten years. Things can change quickly in football

Not if we don't get in the PL for Lai to get most his money back
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Fritzl Palace on August 16, 2022, 11:42:29 AM
Not if we don't get in the PL for Lai to get most his money back

This is the issue. The previous Wolves and Villa owners were happy to sell on the cheap, our chap will not go down that route.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 16, 2022, 11:50:14 AM
This is the issue. The previous Wolves and Villa owners were happy to sell on the cheap, our chap will not go down that route.


Yeah, plenty will buy us but none will pay asking. At least it's been reported previously that he now accepts some kind of loss will need to be taken as long as he can recoup most of it.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 16, 2022, 01:28:14 PM
A lot of chatter about Nunes by football people who follow him. Sounds like he is one of the signings of the season. A potentially top tier talent.

It's (sort of) a shame Wolves fans can't appreciate what they have at the moment. They have spent all summer whinging because they have realised the yarn they were spun about challenging for the champions league in 3 years was b******* , but what they have as an alternative is a well run mid table Prem side, who will occasionally get European football and will do so while having some of the most talented footballers the Molineux will have ever seen.

Weirdly I think we would have appreciated it more than them as we don't quite have the same illusions of grandeur.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 16, 2022, 01:29:52 PM
Just ungrateful really. I guess after the money their owners spent they feel entitled to more.

They were league 1 not too many years ago. Without money them and the vile are mid table champo at best.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 16, 2022, 01:53:31 PM
A lot of chatter about Nunes by football people who follow him. Sounds like he is one of the signings of the season. A potentially top tier talent.

It's (sort of) a shame Wolves fans can't appreciate what they have at the moment. They have spent all summer whinging because they have realised the yarn they were spun about challenging for the champions league in 3 years was b******* , but what they have as an alternative is a well run mid table Prem side, who will occasionally get European football and will do so while having some of the most talented footballers the Molineux will have ever seen.

Weirdly I think we would have appreciated it more than them as we don't quite have the same illusions of grandeur.

I’ve not seen him play but he doesn’t have top tier numbers for an attacking midfielder. Both goals and assists are quite poor although the difficult pass can often be the one before the assist. Nearly 24 too so needs to pretty much be ready to go.

You don’t pay 50m unless there is a lot of promise though.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: OhBilics on August 16, 2022, 02:23:27 PM
£50M for Nunes, £16M for Pereira. At least one of those deals looks quite strange.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 16, 2022, 02:27:13 PM
£50M for Nunes, £16M for Pereira. At least one of those deals looks quite strange.

Lai's business acumen on full display.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 16, 2022, 04:40:27 PM
"Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Besiktas are really pushing to sign Dele Alli. Both loan or permanent are being considered, Everton are leaving it for the player to decide. Dele wants game time as priority. 🚨🔵🇹🇷 #EFC

Meanwhile, Everton are working to complete Gana Gueye deal after long negotiations with PSG."


Dele Alli could be off to play Valball
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 16, 2022, 07:20:41 PM
Nice have offered 10m for Brereton Diaz from Blackburn. Romano
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: tommcneill on August 17, 2022, 09:21:48 AM
Nice have offered 10m for Brereton Diaz from Blackburn. Romano

10m Euros...around £8.4m...at those prices we would be utterly crazy not to go for him. He would be the difference for me.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 17, 2022, 09:22:16 AM
10m Euros...around £8.4m...at those prices we would be utterly crazy not to go for him. He would be the difference for me.

If only we had 12m knocking about  ;D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 17, 2022, 10:48:01 AM
Blackburn have rejected the 10m offer. Nixon says they want closer to 15m
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 17, 2022, 11:29:43 AM
Rob Dorsett
@RobDorsettSky
#efc interested in #rovers Ben Brereton Diaz. Armando Broja still Everton’s first choice, but with little progress with #cfc they’re now widening the striker search. Neil Maupay and Viktor Gyokores also on the list of possible targets.


Diaz to Everton i could see working at 15m-ish, they are desperate for a goalscorer.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 18, 2022, 02:20:54 PM
Forest agree 44.5m deal with Wolves for Gibbs White as per The Athletic.


Absolute insanity. He's a decent player but 44.5m!!!  I'm hoping thats a typo.


Edit - it's 35m plus add ons upto 44.5m. still nuts
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Fritzl Palace on August 18, 2022, 02:25:12 PM
It's not as if he particularly excelled at our level last season, he was good but not Pereira good from the season he played at this level.

Wolves have negotiated a hell of a deal
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 18, 2022, 02:26:56 PM
It's not as if he particularly excelled at our level last season, he was good but not Pereira good from the season he played at this level.

Wolves have negotiated a hell of a deal

Brilliant deal. They basically got a free punt now on their new lad.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gerry m on August 18, 2022, 02:31:56 PM
How many more players are Forest going to buy?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 18, 2022, 02:33:09 PM
How many more players are Forest going to buy?

Think MGW is number 16 this window.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gerry m on August 18, 2022, 02:34:18 PM
Think MGW is number 16 this window.

That's crazy.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 18, 2022, 02:38:34 PM
That's crazy.


Transfermarket has them down as having spent just under 110m so far on fees so with MGW they have spent 145m on fees alone.

Wages wise is going to be nuts.  Lingard and Henderson are about 12m for the season for those 2 alone.

Outgoings at end of this season have to be £250m-ish.

Cant wait for the financials for this to come out  ;D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on August 18, 2022, 02:42:56 PM
Awaits Jurgen Klopp's outburst as he complains about the insanity of Nottingham  Forest's transfer policy when Liverpool only scrape a draw at the City Ground.......
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 18, 2022, 02:52:49 PM
Wondering if Forest secretly re-hired Luke Dowling with this daftness going on?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 18, 2022, 02:54:10 PM
forest looking to be the new Derby in a few seasons then. I see Stoke still cant gain much momentum with their new additions
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 18, 2022, 03:00:33 PM
John Percy Tweeted

Breakdown of Morgan Gibbs-White move to #nffc: £25m up front guaranteed, £7-10m of likely add-ons, plus further ambitious add-ons more difficult to achieve up to maximum of £42.5m. Huge deal for Forest (and Wolves)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: royhan on August 18, 2022, 03:05:09 PM
Seeing so many players commanding transfer fees of upwards of £40 million I was wondering how much we would get for any Albion players. None of the present squad would fetch anywhere near these figures. This will never change as long as we keep ignoring our younger players. I fear for the future
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 18, 2022, 09:45:58 PM
John Percy reporting the realistic fee is somewhere between £25m-£35m for Gibbs-White, £25m up front, £10m in achievable add ons with a further £10m if he hits less likely targets.

It makes no sense as they are paying a price you would pay for a top Premier league player when all he had done is have 1 good championship season.

Wolves academy is proving its worth now though, another area of business they have nailed. If Boro go up they probably get another £15m-£20m for Giles as well. It shows the benefits of managing your academy development properly - one right move and you can make silly money for English talent.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 18, 2022, 10:32:51 PM
John Percy Tweeted

Breakdown of Morgan Gibbs-White move to #nffc: £25m up front guaranteed, £7-10m of likely add-ons, plus further ambitious add-ons more difficult to achieve up to maximum of £42.5m. Huge deal for Forest (and Wolves)

That’s a staggering amount really.

Forest deserve to crash and burn when this goes tits up.

They’re effectively signing replacements for their summer transfers from June!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 19, 2022, 09:05:24 AM
Middlesborough close to signing Rodrigo Muniz on loan from Fulham
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 19, 2022, 09:43:25 AM
Middlesborough close to signing Rodrigo Muniz on loan from Fulham

Potentially a smart signing. 5 goals in 25 appearances last season aged only 20. Room to improve and have a good season after aclimatising. Smart move by Fulham to loan him out, in the right age bracket to improve elsewhere to either make them a profit or be good enough for them later on.

The sort of signing we made once upon a time.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 19, 2022, 10:56:40 AM
Potentially a smart signing. 5 goals in 25 appearances last season aged only 20. Room to improve and have a good season after aclimatising. Smart move by Fulham to loan him out, in the right age bracket to improve elsewhere to either make them a profit or be good enough for them later on.

The sort of signing we made once upon a time.


Definitely not a wba signing. Too young.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 19, 2022, 05:08:59 PM
This is just mental

With two weeks of the window left the Premier League has already broken its total expenditure record (£1.45bn)  and is set to break its net spend record (£0.9bn). Currently the figures sit at £1.48 bn for total spend and £0.88 bn for net spend.

And the deal that probably pushed the expenditure to a new high? Well it just had to be Nottingham Forest splashing an initial £26m on Morgan Gibbs-White. A player of some potential but that is an overpay for what basically boils down to a very good season in the Championship.

But there is more,  from the outside looking in it would appear that Gibbs-White occupies the same position as Jesse Lingard who only a month or so ago was a “marquee signing” “statement of intent” and other assorted tosh trotted out to justify paying huge fees and or wages for relatively moderately talented footballers.

Diving deeper into the rabbit hole of an out of whack marketplace I give you Cesare Casadei. Who’s he then? The next big thing at Chelsea. 19 year old Centre Midfielder with not a single minute of Senior football to his name who has just arrived on a 6 year contract for £13.5m from Inter.  I am sure he is the next Conor Gallagher (or maybe Billy Gilmour remember him?)

In the context of Casadei you can justify the fee for Gibbs-White or maybe both are mental. If either turns out to be a generational talent then it all looks good but neither probably is.

Green Eyed Monster Alert

We should have signed Panamanian winger Puma (aka José Luis Rodríguez Francis) from Alaves but FC Famalicão beat us to the punch. I think he is a fairly modest talent but it has to be worth £400k of someone else's money just for the fun of having a Puma on the wing.

Championship Round up

Not a lot has happened this week. Stoke had a good week not only signing Delap on loan but Trarique Foss is more than a decent option again on loan from Brentford. Although I am old enough to remember Ryan Woods being part of a squad that was going to walk out of the Championship. It is proving to be a long walk and Woods is now on his 2nd Championship club since his contract expired at the Potters.

Burnley again demonstrated what one good fee does at this level. Picking up their twelfth signing (albeit some are loans) without running through the £21m they got for Nathan Collins


Loans

Ethan Laird Man United to QPR
Tariqe Fosu Brentford to Stoke City
Liam Delap Man City to Stoke City

Fees
Darko Churlinov Struggart to Burnley (£3.5m)
Ryan Woods Birmingham City to Hull City
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 19, 2022, 08:37:53 PM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Casemiro deal final details 🚨🇧🇷

▫️ £60m plus £10m add-ons to Real Madrid, it’s in £;

▫️ 4 year deal with option for further season;

▫️ His wages [not double] will put Casemiro among Man Utd highest earners;

▫️ Performance-related contract with higher earnings if in the CL.



Bit like Dowlings Jake Livermore deal but a lot more money and 2 years older!  ;D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: baggies_24 on August 19, 2022, 09:05:01 PM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Casemiro deal final details 🚨🇧🇷

▫️ £60m plus £10m add-ons to Real Madrid, it’s in £;

▫️ 4 year deal with option for further season;

▫️ His wages [not double] will put Casemiro among Man Utd highest earners;

▫️ Performance-related contract with higher earnings if in the CL.



Bit like Dowlings Jake Livermore deal but a lot more money and 2 years older!  ;D

I actually think this is a decent deal, defensive midfielders can go until they are 34-35 so he’s got a few years in him & is a top player.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 19, 2022, 09:30:41 PM
I actually think this is a decent deal, defensive midfielders can go until they are 34-35 so he’s got a few years in him & is a top player.

To be fair I agree with what you are saying but he won't be the same at 34 as at 30 so to honour those wages at the same amount is a bit mad to me
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Fritzl Palace on August 19, 2022, 10:03:39 PM
I actually think this is a decent deal, defensive midfielders can go until they are 34-35 so he’s got a few years in him & is a top player.

Depends if his heart is still in it or whether he just wants a big payday. Only have to look at Varane to see how it can pan out badly with someone who has already won it all
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 20, 2022, 06:06:13 PM
John Percy just Tweeted

#nffc are in talks with #Wolves over a possible deal for centre-half Willy Boly. Opening offer of around £1m rejected, talks ongoing though nothing believed to be imminent as Wolves will try to sign a replacement. Forest moved for Boly after the injury to Moussa Niakhate #wwfc

Blooming heck will it never end?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 20, 2022, 06:22:25 PM
John Percy just Tweeted

#nffc are in talks with #Wolves over a possible deal for centre-half Willy Boly. Opening offer of around £1m rejected, talks ongoing though nothing believed to be imminent as Wolves will try to sign a replacement. Forest moved for Boly after the injury to Moussa Niakhate #wwfc

Blooming heck will it never end?

At this point i guess they are thinking whats another 1 or 2m
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 20, 2022, 06:29:08 PM
Villa in for Sarr

Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano

Watford are in negotiations for João Pedro and Ismaila Sarr. There’s no full agremeent yet with Newcastle for João as Watford want £30m fee 🚨🟡 #NUFC

Aston Villa have submitted €25m bid plus add-ons for Sarr as called by @AbdellahBoulma
 - still in talks on player side. #AVFC
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 21, 2022, 09:15:41 AM
Appears the £25m plus add ons for Sarr has legs.

Had we held out on Pereira a bit longer we would probably have had a similar offer. It's mad that we sold him so cheap.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on August 22, 2022, 07:21:44 AM
Appears the £25m plus add ons for Sarr has legs.

Had we held out on Pereira a bit longer we would probably have had a similar offer. It's mad that we sold him so cheap.

It's mad that 'we' let it be known he was available for sale abroad at a knockdown price in the January window. A lot of haggling power was lost to his representatives and prospective suitors there and then. Naivety in the extreme allied to an out of this world head turning wage offer.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 22, 2022, 09:26:33 AM
Nottingham Forest are interested in signing 29-year-old Ivory Coast defender Serge Aurier, who is a free agent after being released by Villarreal. (Footmercato via Express)

Nottingham Forest want Netherlands defender Hans Hateboer, 28, from Atalanta. (Tutto Atalanta - in Italian)

Wolves have rejected a £1m bid for Ivory Coast centre-back Willy Boly, 31, from Nottingham Forest. (Athletic - subscription)

And the acquisition continue it would appear, they might let one or two out on loan 😂
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: MarkW on August 22, 2022, 09:31:28 AM
Nottingham Forest are interested in signing 29-year-old Ivory Coast defender Serge Aurier, who is a free agent after being released by Villarreal. (Footmercato via Express)

Nottingham Forest want Netherlands defender Hans Hateboer, 28, from Atalanta. (Tutto Atalanta - in Italian)

Wolves have rejected a £1m bid for Ivory Coast centre-back Willy Boly, 31, from Nottingham Forest. (Athletic - subscription)

And the acquisition continue it would appear, they might let one or two out on loan 😂

I'd been thinking "oh, they must have a bloated squad, so they may have some players we could look at", but they really don't have that many.

They had quite a few loans last year, and a couple of players actually left, so there's not too many kicking their heels
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 22, 2022, 09:44:50 AM
Just had a look, they now have a 26 man squad including the 16/17 new summer signings so we laugh but they had to sign a lot in all fairness. They only had 10 player as it stood  ;D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 22, 2022, 12:02:04 PM
Brerton diaz has told Blackburn he won't discuss new terms regardless of pay increase offered. He wants to leave be it now, Jan or end of season at latest.


Got to be woth a punt for a PL club at 13-15m asking price.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 22, 2022, 06:50:25 PM
Another one from Watford gone.

"Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
João Pedro to Newcastle, done deal and here we go! Full agreement as Watford have now accepted final, official bid worth £25m fixed fee, £5m add-ons. 🚨⚪️⚫️🇧🇷 #NUFC

Deal will also include sell-on clause for 10%. Personal terms already, as been told contract will be until 2028."
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on August 23, 2022, 01:53:30 PM
Depends if his heart is still in it or whether he just wants a big payday. Only have to look at Varane to see how it can pan out badly with someone who has already won it all
And Yet Varane last night ruled that United Defence, I don't blame them. Casemiro probably thinks Raphael, Cristiano trying to think of who else he might know ay we could win something I'll join. Though he can't be that close with Ronaldo and Varane, CR7 Probably wouldn't have advised him to come as he wants to leave. But when Casemiro has a look at his Partners in Midfeild in McTominay and Fred and then Maguire, Lindelof, Shaw and others he might want to hop on the next flight back to Madrid.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 23, 2022, 04:59:48 PM
John Percy Just Tweeted

Breaking: Leicester have rejected a third bid from Chelsea for Wesley Fofana. Total offer understood to be around £70m including add-ons. Brendan Rodgers to assess whether Fofana will face Chelsea in the Premier League on Saturday (if no further bids are submitted) #lcfc #cfc
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 23, 2022, 05:02:18 PM
𝐃𝐄𝐀𝐋 𝐃𝐎𝐍𝐄: Watford have sold Hassane Kamara to Udinese for around £16m, but he will stay at the club for the season on loan.

The Hornets will use the money to help strengthen their cash flow.

(Source: @WatfordFC)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 23, 2022, 06:04:16 PM
𝐃𝐄𝐀𝐋 𝐃𝐎𝐍𝐄: Watford have sold Hassane Kamara to Udinese for around £16m, but he will stay at the club for the season on loan.

The Hornets will use the money to help strengthen their cash flow.

(Source: @WatfordFC)

Blatant manipulation of FFP.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 23, 2022, 07:21:13 PM
Rob Dorsett
@RobDorsettSky
#boro remain interested in #pnefc forward Emil Riis Jakobsen. Preston looking for club record £10m to sell. No formal bid though fee has been discussed. Boro first approached last week but still keen.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Dan on August 23, 2022, 07:35:40 PM
Making a mockery of the club if 'Boro go on to splash the cash and sign Clarke and Jakobsen while we leave them to sign one of ours on a no strings attached loan

Cameron Archer is on the bench for Villa also, if he can't get a start in round 2 of the league cup against a league one side he's surely going to go out on loan, though I can't imagine he would come here if available anyway.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 23, 2022, 10:25:44 PM
𝐃𝐄𝐀𝐋 𝐃𝐎𝐍𝐄: Watford have sold Hassane Kamara to Udinese for around £16m, but he will stay at the club for the season on loan.

The Hornets will use the money to help strengthen their cash flow.

(Source: @WatfordFC)

I'm amazed the EFL do not look into this, both clubs owned by the same family and the Watford owner does transfer deals for his dad at Udinese apparently but no conflict of interest at all, all purely legit  :D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Fritzl Palace on August 24, 2022, 08:56:10 AM
The Watford ownership is a disgrace in fairness, but it has been for years and nothing has been done about it. The lad Udinese took from Derby will undoubtedly be at Watford in a seasons time. Modern football, got to love it  :-X
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 24, 2022, 02:04:28 PM
The Kamara deal stinks. The closer you look at it the more it stinks.

Nobody other than Udinese are paying £17m for that player. He is a 28 year old left back who was a squad player for Nice before being bought Watford for £3.6m in January 2022. He played half a season in the Premier League and is now worth £17m or a £13m increase in value.

Furthermore Udinese rarely pay more than £10m for a player the last time they did was for Gerard Deulofeu again from Watford.

There are no domestic FFP restrictions in Italian obviously clubs are restricted by UEFA FFP but that is only an issue if they are in European competition and generally Udinese aren't. It was significant that the Pozo's sold Grenada when La Liga started to get tough on FFP rules.

This is plainly a manoeuvre to mitigate whatever issues Watford are having with FFP. 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 25, 2022, 10:53:51 AM
Morelos linked with the vile amongst others.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on August 25, 2022, 12:19:43 PM
Morelos linked with the vile amongst others.
I think I heard right when they said 8 red cards already at Rangers.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 25, 2022, 01:35:56 PM
I think I heard right when they said 8 red cards already at Rangers.


Fit in well here than last season :D


Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Newcastle are set to sign Alexander Isak from Real Sociedad, medical in England as clubs have completed the agreement on €65m fee and €5m add-ons, club record signing: here we go. ⚪️⚫️🤝 #NUFC

Deal will also include a sell-on clause for Real Sociedad.


Isak has always impressed me when i've seen him.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 25, 2022, 01:44:01 PM
Matt Clarke to Boro official, 3+1 year deal.


Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 25, 2022, 05:18:28 PM
Cristiano Ronaldo is reportedly on the verge of signing for Sporting Lisbon. The deal is 99% done.

The club will begin presentation preparations tomorrow.

(Source: @caughtoffside)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 25, 2022, 05:20:56 PM
Cristiano Ronaldo is reportedly on the verge of signing for Sporting Lisbon. The deal is 99% done.

The club will begin presentation preparations tomorrow.

(Source: @caughtoffside)


Blimey that must be a big drop in wages for CR, probably a good move for all though
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 25, 2022, 05:56:20 PM

Blimey that must be a big drop in wages for CR, probably a good move for all though

At this stage of his career, I think it’s more about records with Cristiano than money.

Sporting are in the Champions League, so a chance to cement his goal scoring record over Messi, whose PSG are also in the competition
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 25, 2022, 06:07:01 PM
At this stage of his career, I think it’s more about records with Cristiano than money.

Sporting are in the Champions League, so a chance to cement his goal scoring record over Messi, whose PSG are also in the competition

Good point, i forgot about his massive ego for a second!  ;D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 26, 2022, 09:05:25 AM
Pete O Rourke

Middlesbrough are eyeing a move to sign Chelsea midfielder Ethan Ampadu on loan. #CFC #Boro
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 26, 2022, 08:08:55 PM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Official, completed. Everton have signed Neal Maupay on permanent deal from Brighton, medical done in the last 24h. 🔵🤝 #EFC

Maupay signs three year deal with option for further season.



Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 27, 2022, 09:07:57 AM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Nottingham Forest are pushing to sign Renan Lodi on loan from Atletico Madrid. €5m loan fee offered, also buy option could be included - around €30m. 🚨🌳 #NFFC

Talks still ongoing on clubs and player side, but Forest are pushing after Atletico changed their position on LB.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 27, 2022, 09:08:58 AM
Ekrem KONUR
@Ekremkonur
🚨 Jan Bednarek 🔜 Aston Villa ⌛
🔴 #SaintsFC 🔵 #AVFC
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Standaman on August 28, 2022, 03:20:42 AM
The Calm Before the Storm

The window wraps up on Thursday.  Despite the Premier League clubs spending record breaking amounts and this week being relatively quiet there is still likely to be the last minute trolly dash. While there has been a lot of football in August which has prompted clubs to assemble their squads earlier in the window equally playing games exposes the holes. Many clubs aren’t happy with their options, of course it’s going to be chaos just like it always is.

The Miracle of Casemiro

By just being introduced to the crowd pre match the former Real Madrid Midfielder Casemiro prompted the best Man United performance of the Ten Hag era (is 3 games an era?). Just imagine how awesome United will be when the new £60m signing actually plays.

A few observations on that. The signing on the face of it addresses one of the glaring issues that United have had for ages i.e. the 6 role. At 30 Casemiro is probably a little too old to be transitioning to the PL from La Liga. The pace of the game is different and United are absolutely not as dominant as Real Madrid. How Ten Hag integrates him into the dysfunctional mess that United still are despite the uptick in form is going to be key.

For those wondering

What Dan Ashworth would do with serious money to spend. The answer is sign  Alexander Isak for £60m. Regardless of how this pans out this is a major coup on the part of Ashworth. The issue with the ambitious Premier League outfits is the eternal question of how do you sign Champions League level talent without having Champions League football? The answer is generally you don’t. Signing Isak suggests Newcastle have squared that circle.  Through gritted teeth I have to say they are starting to look competent which is worrying for the rest of the league.

Everton buy a Striker

Nobody has accused the Blues of being competent for a little while. Nothing says failed project than signing the moderately successful Neal Maupay from Brighton for £15m as Centre Forward cover for Calvin-Lewin. On the same day that the new kids on the block sign Isak. The unravelling of the Mosheri project is further emphasised by Dele Alli joining Besiktas on loan barely 6 months after joining the club. There was something inevitable about the two story arcs colliding Alli needing a move to revive a once glittering career and Everton as ever seduced by another big name. It failed, it was always going to. Alli moves on to the Turkey stage of his career and Everton trundle on increasingly hamstrung by their earlier mistakes. 

Championship Corner

Nine deals in total this week. Nothing all that noteworthy. Sunderland’s signing of Costa Rican international winger Jewison Bennette shows a certain amount of enterprise. It wll be interesting to see what impact the 19 year old winger has this season.

Fees
Matt Clarke Brighton to M’boro £2.5m
Jewison Bennette Herediano to Sunderland £1m
Denis Franchi PSG to Burnley

Loans
Ethan Laird Man United to QPR
Kortney Hause Aston Villa to Watford
Brooke Norton-Cuffy Arsenal to Rotherham

Frees
Leon Balogun Rangers to QPR
Cyrus Christie Fulham to Hull City
Naby Sarr Huddersfield to Reading
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 28, 2022, 06:58:23 AM
John Percy Tweeted

Atletico Madrid defender Renan Lodi set to become Nottingham Forest's 18th summer signing - and there could be more before Thursday’s deadline #nffc
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 28, 2022, 07:51:04 AM
Villa are planning a move for West Ham's Craig Dawson and will give the 32-year-old English centre-back a two-year deal. (Sun)

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: lewisant on August 28, 2022, 10:49:40 AM
Our boy Matheus Pereira is being linked to Everton and Leicester. I'd like to see him in that Leicester team, imagine a team with Harvey Barnes and Pereira  :-[
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on August 28, 2022, 05:18:34 PM
John Percy Tweeted

Atletico Madrid defender Renan Lodi set to become Nottingham Forest's 18th summer signing - and there could be more before Thursday’s deadline #nffc
He's there today so he is 18
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on August 28, 2022, 06:14:52 PM
Amusing watching Man Utd trying to nail Ten Hag's top transfer targets and others playing hardball with them.  De Jong has apparently decided to take a wage reduction at Barca rather than join the Salford outfit. Also, Ajax keep upping Anthony's price tag, now at £84 million. Mind you, if Anthony does join, he won't win them many friends. His theatrical diving, posturing and rolling around make Neymar look like candidate for Fairplay Award of the year.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on August 28, 2022, 11:38:31 PM
Antony deal gone through (BBC reporting £80m, but Dutch media saying €100m which is £84.9 at today's rates). Don't think he'll endear himself to many neutrals with his amateur theatrics. Hopefully the PL refs won't tolerate much of it either.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 29, 2022, 02:24:44 PM
Ekrem KONUR
@Ekremkonur
🚨Crystal Palace have made an opening bid of €30m for Chelsea midfielder Conor Gallagher.
🔵 #CPFC 🔵 #CFC
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BalisPen on August 29, 2022, 03:50:13 PM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Official, completed. Everton have signed Neal Maupay on permanent deal from Brighton, medical done in the last 24h. 🔵🤝 #EFC

Maupay signs three year deal with option for further season.

Everton assembling a good championship squad there.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 29, 2022, 03:50:59 PM
Everton assembling a good championship squad there.


I would have thought they'd have gone for Brerton Diaz at 15m to be fair.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on August 29, 2022, 03:55:34 PM

I would have thought they'd have gone for Brerton Diaz at 15m to be fair.

It's Everton. Far more likely to make a last minute bid for Chris Wood at way over the odds.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 29, 2022, 03:59:43 PM
It's Everton. Far more likely to make a last minute bid for Chris Wood at way over the odds.

Got a point there. They are almost as badly run as us.


Now Barkelys on a free after terminating his Chelsea deal i wonder if they will go back for him.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 29, 2022, 07:55:58 PM
West Ham have announced the "club record signing" of Brazil midfielder Lucas Paqueta on a five year contract.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 29, 2022, 08:25:49 PM
Paper talk of Matheus Pereira being linked with Everton and Leicester, should the interest materialise into a transfer, does anyone know whether when we sold him was there any % sell on clause?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BalisPen on August 29, 2022, 11:23:05 PM
Paper talk of Matheus Pereira being linked with Everton and Leicester, should the interest materialise into a transfer, does anyone know whether when we sold him was there any % sell on clause?

Lol, we are so badly run we probably agreed to a clause where we owe his future new clubs 20% of what we got for him.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on August 30, 2022, 10:36:06 AM
Everton are in talks to offload Salomon Rondon before the transfer window closes on Thursday. #EFC

Hmm 🤔
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: KN22 on August 30, 2022, 12:56:54 PM
Everton are in talks to offload Salomon Rondon before the transfer window closes on Thursday. #EFC

Hmm 🤔

If you have seen him recently this would not excite you at all. Looks a spent force and is on crazy wages too.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 30, 2022, 02:46:45 PM
Wolves fans have whined all summer and yet when the dust settles, some estimates have them spending around £120m plus in fees.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2022, 04:30:17 PM
SSN saying Wolves and Villa want Craig Dawson
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: WBArgo on August 30, 2022, 06:25:43 PM
SSN saying Wolves and Villa want Craig Dawson
Used to see him in Sutton Coldfield a lot - could see him going to Villa based on that.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2022, 06:43:38 PM
Rourke saying Boro making move for Surridge
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2022, 07:14:16 PM
Pete O'Rourke
@SportsPeteO
Leicester City striker George Hirst has undergone a medical at Blackburn Rovers today ahead of his loan move. #LCFC #Rovers
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 30, 2022, 10:21:30 PM
Amadou Diallo - thr Ivorian winger Man Utd paid £20m -£30m for last year going on loan to Sunderland.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 30, 2022, 10:25:41 PM
Amadou Diallo - thr Ivorian winger Man Utd paid £20m -£30m for last year going on loan to Sunderland.


Wasnt he in the EFL last year too??
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2022, 09:51:24 AM
"Ekrem KONUR
@Ekremkonur
🚨 Leeds are in advanced talks to sign Wolves' South Korean striker Hwang Hee-chan.
🇰🇷 ⚪ #LUFC 🟡 #WWFC"


Ain't they just signed him?


Also

Ekrem KONUR
🚨 Atletico Madrid are planning to make a £18m bid for Aston Villa's Brazilian player Douglas Luiz.
🇧🇷 🔵 #Atleti 🔵 #AVFC
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 31, 2022, 10:19:45 AM

Wasnt he in the EFL last year too??

He was at Rangers.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2022, 11:06:56 AM
He was at Rangers.

Thanks Liam.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on August 31, 2022, 01:41:53 PM
SSN saying Wolves and Villa want Craig Dawson
Always thought we got rid off too early. Not great in his build-up play, but solid defender and good for a few headed goals.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2022, 01:45:16 PM
Always thought we got rid off too early. Not great in his build-up play, but solid defender and good for a few headed goals.


Same, was a solid PL defender, far from perfect but easily PL class
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on August 31, 2022, 02:00:59 PM
Always thought we got rid off too early. Not great in his build-up play, but solid defender and good for a few headed goals.

It wasn't a case of Albion getting rid of him. It was a case of him suffering being with us while sulking his way through the season following relegation. He only bothered a tap in the run up to the playoffs, presumably because he could see a nice fat promotion bonus at the end of it.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on August 31, 2022, 02:45:43 PM
It wasn't a case of Albion getting rid of him. It was a case of him suffering being with us while sulking his way through the season following relegation. He only bothered a tap in the run up to the playoffs, presumably because he could see a nice fat promotion bonus at the end of it.
Yep, fair point Dan. I'd forgotten about his season long sulk.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on August 31, 2022, 03:33:33 PM
Wolves have signed Kalajdzic for initially £15 million from Vfb Stuttgart. That has to be steal of the summer for a goal scoring No.9 and still only 25 yrs. Bayern Munich were looking seriously at him as a replacement for Lewandowski.   
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2022, 05:34:34 PM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Birmingham City are set to complete an important signing: official bid now submitted for Josh Maja, talent from Bordeaux with five year deal agreed. 🚨🔵 #BCFC

Maja will fly to England tonight in order to complete medical tests as first thing in the morning.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BlackCountryPride68 on August 31, 2022, 05:38:52 PM
Wolves have signed Kalajdzic for initially £15 million from Vfb Stuttgart. That has to be steal of the summer for a goal scoring No.9 and still only 25 yrs. Bayern Munich were looking seriously at him as a replacement for Lewandowski.

That's a cracking deal. Grim times.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on August 31, 2022, 08:41:35 PM
Amadou Diallo - thr Ivorian winger Man Utd paid £20m -£30m for last year going on loan to Sunderland.

They have also just signed 19 year old Edouard Michut on loan from PSG. Said a week or so ago that top European clubs would be open to sending their youngsters here on loan knowing the premium they could make if things went well. Sunderland potentially doing some very good business here.

[Edit] - They have also signed French under 19 international Abdoullah Ba on a permanent deal.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on August 31, 2022, 08:44:46 PM
They have also just signed 19 year old Edouard Michut on loan from PSG. Said a week or so ago that top European clubs would be open to sending their youngsters here on loan knowing the premium they could make if things went well. Sunderland potentially doing some very good business here.


Diallo did ok at rangers but he wasn’t outstanding. Very young though and no doubt be better for that experience
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2022, 08:46:11 PM
Someone has signed Berahino thankfully/

"Transfer News Central
@TransferNewsCen
OFFICIAL: AEL Limassol have signed striker Saido Berahino on a free transfer from Sheffield Wednesday."
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2022, 10:33:20 PM
Dawson going to wolves - Alex.Crook
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on August 31, 2022, 10:37:12 PM
Fulham make offer for Brereton Diaz - The Athletic
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: phbaggies on September 01, 2022, 08:49:06 AM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Birmingham City are set to complete an important signing: official bid now submitted for Josh Maja, talent from Bordeaux with five year deal agreed. 🚨🔵 #BCFC

Maja will fly to England tonight in order to complete medical tests as first thing in the morning.
Or maybe not.....

Birmingham's deal for Bordeaux's Nigerian forward Josh Maja has fallen through with the 23-year-old opting to remain with the Ligue 2 club. (Get French Football News
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 01, 2022, 08:59:46 AM
Or maybe not.....

Birmingham's deal for Bordeaux's Nigerian forward Josh Maja has fallen through with the 23-year-old opting to remain with the Ligue 2 club. (Get French Football News


Romano posted the details why after his intial post but far too late/early too post, something about wage defferal accepted
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on September 01, 2022, 11:22:51 AM
Steve Cooper on SSN says forest are still working on deals and expect to bring more in. They've signed 18 players already!

Since you have to name a 25 man squad in the premier league, that's almost all of Forests squad from last year either moving on or not able to play league games.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: MarkW on September 01, 2022, 11:24:26 AM
Steve Cooper on SSN says forest are still working on deals and expect to bring more in. They've signed 18 players already!

Since you have to name a 25 man squad in the premier league, that's almost all of Forests squad from last year either moving on or not able to play league games.

They lost a lot of players as they were on loan, or people like their keeper who left
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 01, 2022, 02:49:43 PM
#nffc are closing in on Blackpool winger Josh Bowler, who is now travelling down for a medical. Fee of just over £4m agreed, plus a few add-ons. Will be signing number 2️⃣0️⃣ of the summer if it all goes through.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on September 01, 2022, 02:55:06 PM
#nffc are closing in on Blackpool winger Josh Bowler, who is now travelling down for a medical. Fee of just over £4m agreed, plus a few add-ons. Will be signing number 2️⃣0️⃣ of the summer if it all goes through.
There must be a helluva lot of players at Forest looking to move on. They can't all play or even make the bench. Surely there must be some quality there which would meet our criteria.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 01, 2022, 02:56:59 PM
Forest have been awful with how they have handled this window. Totally scattergun, they have bought an entire new squad.

Bowler is by all accounts a cracking player l, one of the best wide men in the division, but Forest don't need him.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Dan on September 01, 2022, 03:08:51 PM
Forest have been awful with how they have handled this window. Totally scattergun, they have bought an entire new squad.

Bowler is by all accounts a cracking player l, one of the best wide men in the division, but Forest don't need him.

Forest have done this every year under the new owner and largely signed absolute rubbish or people they simply didn't need and ended up with massively bloated squads that underperformed. I'd guess quite a bit of the business done this window has been owner lead, his ego going to his head again.

They lucked in to Cooper being available and righting them, as well as their loans performing well alongside their academy players (if nothing else, they do have a strong academy). But they are not a well run club at all. The system they have in the club that has consistently failed in the permanent transfer market hasn't changed, they've just spent 150m on it this time.

They're like the opposite side of the coin to us. No real planning, just chaotic.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: MarkW on September 01, 2022, 03:17:12 PM
Going through their squad, the only players I recognise from last season are:

Worrall
McKenna
Cook
Colback
Yates
Arter
Cafu (no, not that one)
Johnson
Surridge
Walker

Looking through that list, I think Worrall, McKenna, Yates, Colback and Johnson were regular starters for them, so they have lost a massive chunk of their squad for one reason or another.

Neco Williams and Johnson won't have to be registered as they are 21, not sure about Gibbs-White, O'Brien and Biancone

Edit: Just looking at Transfermarkt, and their total minutes by player is interesting:

Johnson (Stay)
McKenna (Stay)
Yates (Stay)
Worrall (Stay)
Samba (Gone)
Spence (Gone)
Garner (Gone)
Colback (Stay)
Zinckernagel (Gone)
Grabban (Gone)
Figeueiredo (Gone)
Lower (Gone)
Cook (Stay)
Davis (Gone)
Lolley (Gone)

Those are all players who played over 1000 minutes. 6 are still with them, 9 have left for one reason or another.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: skyclad99 on September 01, 2022, 03:19:52 PM
Going through their squad, the only players I recognise from last season are:

Worrall
McKenna
Cook
Colback
Yates
Arter
Cafu (no, not that one)
Johnson
Surridge
Walker

Looking through that list, I think Worrall, McKenna, Yates, Colback and Johnson were regular starters for them, so they have lost a massive chunk of their squad for one reason or another.

Neco Williams and Johnson won't have to be registered as they are 21, not sure about Gibbs-White, O'Brien and Biancone

Well that could get awkward if they don’t stay up.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on September 01, 2022, 03:31:02 PM
Ian Dennis (BBC) says 15 players have left Forest this summer. I can't see how that works. There's a limit on how many players you can loan in any one season. Or were the rest just sold/retired?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hull Baggie on September 01, 2022, 03:49:24 PM
Ian Dennis (BBC) says 15 players have left Forest this summer. I can't see how that works. There's a limit on how many players you can loan in any one season. Or were the rest just sold/retired?

surely some of those players would have been loanees returning to parent clubs and then players like Grabban who wouldn't sign new contracts.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 01, 2022, 04:00:19 PM
Pete O'Rourke
@SportsPeteO
Sheffield United midfielder Sander Berge is on the verge of joining Club Brugge. #sufc #twitterblades #clubbrugge #DeadlineDay


He's their best player, thought he could do better than that
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: phbaggies on September 01, 2022, 04:03:13 PM
Dawson to the dingles is off, West Ham pulled the plug. I'm happy with that  :D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 01, 2022, 04:05:25 PM
Rumours Sheff Utd are looking 20 year old Canada international Ismael Kone as a replacement for Berge. They seem to be getting smarter since Wilder left. Some great signings this summer.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: MarkW on September 01, 2022, 04:06:01 PM
surely some of those players would have been loanees returning to parent clubs and then players like Grabban who wouldn't sign new contracts.

Yes, the likes of Garner, Zinckernagel were on loan. They sold Samba and someone else, and released most of the others
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on September 01, 2022, 05:29:44 PM
How twisted football transfers and finances have become . It looks as though Garner from ManUtd is going to cost a fair bit more than Brighton are going to pay for Billy Gilmour !!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on September 01, 2022, 05:39:00 PM
How twisted football transfers and finances have become . It looks as though Garner from ManUtd is going to cost a fair bit more than Brighton are going to pay for Billy Gilmour !!

In fairness I’d say garner has proven more than Gilmour to date (although I don't know what the reported difference in cost is).
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 01, 2022, 06:45:58 PM
QPR FC
@QPR
✍️ Signing on Deadline Day for the season.

Welcome from Villa, 𝗧𝗶𝗺 𝗜𝗿𝗼𝗲𝗴𝗯𝘂𝗻𝗮𝗺! 🦁
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 01, 2022, 06:47:11 PM
Hull find another international striker.

Hull City
@HullCity
✍️ We are delighted to announce the signing of Dimitrios Pelkas on a season-long loan from Fenerbahçe!

Welcome to Hull City, @pelkas
! 🇬🇷
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 01, 2022, 06:50:41 PM
Pelkas is more of an attacking midfielder by the sounds of it, but an interesting loan none the less.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 01, 2022, 07:17:25 PM
Pelkas is more of an attacking midfielder by the sounds of it, but an interesting loan none the less.

Oh thats me told. His article said hes a forward  ;D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Dan on September 01, 2022, 08:07:51 PM
Galling to see some of the transfers our rivals are making even on the last day. Hull getting Harvey Vale on loan, arguably the Chelsea's academys most rated player in his age group - and a versatile midfielder who's capable of filling in at full back. Would have been perfect here. I doubt anyone at the club have heard of him.

Instead we're stuck relying on Bruce's phonebook.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 01, 2022, 09:00:09 PM
Brighton signing Billy Gilmour on a perm from Chelsea so i guess thats how we get the Alzate bloke
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 01, 2022, 09:15:14 PM
Diaz staying at Blackburn until Jan at least now as no one paid the fee requested.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 01, 2022, 09:38:27 PM
Bloke on SSN just said Forest have signed 19 so far and could be 23 by end of day if all others come off  :o
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on September 01, 2022, 11:42:09 PM
Kongolo loaned out by Fulham to Ligue 2 Le Havre.  Wonder if they or us with Josh Onahmah got the better of the Fulham players. 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: WBArgo on September 02, 2022, 03:21:03 PM
Kongolo loaned out by Fulham to Ligue 2 Le Havre.  Wonder if they or us with Josh Onahmah got the better of the Fulham players.

Looks like they did by default now  >:(
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on September 03, 2022, 09:12:34 AM
Brighton signing Billy Gilmour on a perm from Chelsea so i guess thats how we get the Alzate bloke

This is what I don't understand re Alzate. Your post confirming Billy Gilmour is timed at 9pm. Surely Brighton had enough time to file the registration and release Alzate for his loan to us.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 03, 2022, 09:49:46 AM
This is what I don't understand re Alzate. Your post confirming Billy Gilmour is timed at 9pm. Surely Brighton had enough time to file the registration and release Alzate for his loan to us.

I don't think we will ever know the truth fully Dan and i don't think that some well paid executive heads will roll either.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Lionheart on September 03, 2022, 10:36:34 AM
This is what I don't understand re Alzate. Your post confirming Billy Gilmour is timed at 9pm. Surely Brighton had enough time to file the registration and release Alzate for his loan to us.
He was officially announced on their twitter at 00:16  makes you wonder if there was a delay. If we could have submitted deal sheets you would imagine both deals would have gone through but I guess we will never know. Doesn't make sense why they are the only ones who use deal sheets when signings in the PL often have a domino effect on the lower leagues.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 04, 2022, 06:25:51 PM
Athletic

🚨 EXCLUSIVE: Wolverhampton Wanderers considering deal to sign Diego Costa following ACL injury for Sasa Kalajdzic. 33yo striker going to #WWFC on Tuesday for a trial to assess fitness + suitability. Free agent after leaving Atletico Mineiro @TheAthleticUK


Seems a spent force now
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on September 04, 2022, 07:26:55 PM
34 next month, hasn't really been in the goals since 2017 albeit he was very suited to English football. Could have an indian summer season and score them 10 but unlikely.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 04, 2022, 07:45:54 PM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Official. OGC Nice have signed Ross Barkley on a free transfer after the contract termination signed just few days ago with Chelsea. 🚨🔴⚫️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 #OGCNice

Barkley has been presented tonight at the stadium.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on September 05, 2022, 09:16:00 AM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Official. OGC Nice have signed Ross Barkley on a free transfer after the contract termination signed just few days ago with Chelsea. 🚨🔴⚫️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 #OGCNice

Barkley has been presented tonight at the stadium.

That's Nice for him  ;D .
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: skyclad99 on September 05, 2022, 01:45:49 PM
Cross Diego Costa off your list, he is having a medical at the dingles tomorrow.....

That's it for me, I won't be buying coffee from his shops anymore... ;)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on September 06, 2022, 11:37:55 AM
Costa to Wolves - work permit rejected. They have appealed
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: AlbionFan on September 07, 2022, 07:07:26 AM
Wolves will consider a move for free agent and former England striker Andy Carroll, 33, if they fail to sign Diego Costa. (Telegraph)
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on December 14, 2022, 06:48:38 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/African_Insider/status/1603098360474386437

Yes, this is a real footballer. Yes I am childish.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on December 14, 2022, 07:07:28 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/African_Insider/status/1603098360474386437

Yes, this is a real footballer. Yes I am childish.

So, do you want one and are we talking about a reduction or an enhancement  ;D ?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on December 14, 2022, 07:20:46 PM
Fully new who the first reply to this post was coming from   ;D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 03, 2023, 06:30:35 PM
Rob Dorsett
@RobDorsettSky


#nffc plan big January clear out to accommodate fresh faces for survival push. Harry Arter, Emmanuel Dennis, Sam Surridge and Josh Bowler are all available for transfer if right offer comes in. #safc & #burnleyfc interested in Surridge. Forest prepared to lose big on Dennis fee.



How big is the loss on Dennis they are willing to take?!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 04, 2023, 12:13:22 PM
Orsic (remember him?) off to Southampton, 7.5m fee is the rumour
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on January 04, 2023, 12:14:36 PM
Orsic (remember him?) off to Southampton, 7.5m fee is the rumour
kept fit, he will make a significant difference - quality player 7.5 is a snip !
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 04, 2023, 12:15:23 PM
kept fit, he will make a significant difference - quality player 7.5 is a snip !


Seems cheap to me too.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on January 04, 2023, 01:07:19 PM
Orsic is 30 now. Not sure why nobody moved for him back when Bilic wanted him aged 27. Made a lot more sense then at the £7.5m fee.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 04, 2023, 01:19:34 PM
Orsic is 30 now. Not sure why nobody moved for him back when Bilic wanted him aged 27. Made a lot more sense then at the £7.5m fee.


Thanks that would explain it. I thought he was about 24 when we went in. Clearly not!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 04, 2023, 05:17:35 PM
Dominic King
@DominicKing_DM
Everton have had a bid to sign Danny Ings on loan rejected by Aston Villa. The only way Villa will allow Ings to move is on a permanent deal. A number of other clubs are interested in him. Be a situation to watch 🔵
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on January 04, 2023, 06:41:22 PM
Too expensive fee and wages and too old
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 09, 2023, 08:28:01 PM
John Percy
@JPercyTelegraph
#nffc transfer news: Forest are in talks with Palmeiras over a possible deal for defensive midfielder Danilo. Fee of around £15-20m, but also interest elsewhere. A “No 6” is a priority for Forest in this window. Story with @SamJDean


Forest back into action.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 11, 2023, 10:15:55 PM
Pete O Rourke says Reading have made an offer for Jordan Hugill
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on January 11, 2023, 10:25:47 PM
Pete O Rourke says Reading have made an offer for Jordan Hugill
Do I see a trend with Reading and ex Albion strikers? If they're interested in Hugill, then Zohore might fall into the same category.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 11, 2023, 10:35:58 PM
Do I see a trend with Reading and ex Albion strikers? If they're interested in Hugill, then Zohore might fall into the same category.

A strike force of Carroll, Hugill and Zohore  :o
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 12, 2023, 09:40:55 PM
John Percy
@JPercyTelegraph
#nffc are now very close to completing a £16m deal for Palmeiras midfielder Danilo. Will be the second signing of the January window with Danilo set to fly into England soon. Story with @SamJDean



Hopefully pushes O'Brien closer to us if true.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 13, 2023, 08:11:42 AM
🚨Southampton are in talks to sign Luton Town's 25-year-old English right-back James Bree.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🔴#SaintsFC

Konur.


If true guess he won't be playing tomorrow
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on January 13, 2023, 10:40:14 AM
Wolves have spent £50 mil on Cunha, £10 mil onn Lemina, £17 mil on Joao Gomes in just this window if not more on others. Yet we have an owner who has to lend £20 million to keep us afloat. Truly depressing
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 13, 2023, 10:41:12 AM
Wolves have spent £50 mil on Cunha, £10 mil onn Lemina, £17 mil on Joao Gomes in just this window if not more on others. Yet we have an owner who has to lend £20 million to keep us afloat. Truly depressing

Got to be 350m plus now trying to keep Wolves in the PL
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 13, 2023, 07:50:49 PM
Another for the dingles


@FabrizioRomano
Wolves are set to sign Pablo Sarabia on permanent deal from PSG, here we go soon 🟠🤝🏻 #WWFC

Clubs discussing final details — €5m fee plus add-ons as first reported by @SaberDesfa
.

Mario Lemina, signed — João Gomes & Pablo Sarabia are expected to become new Wolves players soon.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 18, 2023, 01:32:50 PM
Stoke after Gelhardt from Leeds to replace Delap. Any good?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 18, 2023, 08:30:25 PM
Chris Wood close to moving to Forest. Loan with option to buy.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 19, 2023, 11:30:16 AM
West Ham signing Danny Ings. Total package with add one for 15m
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Mikkyk on January 19, 2023, 01:48:00 PM
West Ham signing Danny Ings. Total package with add one for 15m

A little strange that one. Villa payed £25m for him less than 18 months ago, and he still has 18 months left on his deal
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 19, 2023, 01:57:58 PM
A little strange that one. Villa payed £25m for him less than 18 months ago, and he still has 18 months left on his deal

Villa want Moussa Dembele now from Lyon apparently
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 19, 2023, 02:02:10 PM
A little strange that one. Villa payed £25m for him less than 18 months ago, and he still has 18 months left on his deal

Legs are gone somewhat by all accounts and his wages were fairly obscene. No shocks with that lot and their endless pit of money
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 19, 2023, 02:51:03 PM
Legs are gone somewhat by all accounts and his wages were fairly obscene. No shocks with that lot and their endless pit of money


to think if we had gone up instead of them they would probably have gone bust, under the same pressure to go up as we are this season
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 19, 2023, 05:01:05 PM
David Ornstein
@David_Ornstein
🚨 Arsenal have reached an agreement with Brighton & Hove Albion to sign Leandro Trossard. Fee #AFC will be paying #BHAFC understood to be £27m. Subject to normal processes 28yo Belgium international’s move now being described as ‘done deal’ @TheAthleticFC
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 19, 2023, 09:00:10 PM
Sky sports news saying Wolves have agreed fee of £3.3m with West Ham for Craig Dawson.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: iwastherein68 on January 19, 2023, 11:06:01 PM
Sky sports news saying Wolves have agreed fee of £3.3m with West Ham for Craig Dawson.
Come on Agent Dawson...................help them on their way.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: mulliganstired on January 20, 2023, 02:43:36 PM
West Ham signing Danny Ings. Total package with add one for 15m
They always copy us, now they are the ageing has beens pension scheme after we've been cleared out
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gerry m on January 20, 2023, 03:03:55 PM
West Ham signing Danny Ings. Total package with add one for 15m

Smacks of a desperation signing for me.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 20, 2023, 03:16:42 PM
If he stays fit Ings will get them goals but definitely a sniff of panic.


Forest officially sign Woods. I think they will stay up now. Brings spend to 200m I think
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 24, 2023, 01:04:44 PM
Dominic King

Aston Villa have failed with a club record bid to sign Nico Williams from Athletic Bilbao. Prepared to pay £45million release clause but Williams didn't want to leave the Basque country. Unai Emery has enquired about Luiz Henrique as an alternative at Real Betis
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 24, 2023, 05:11:39 PM
John Percy
@JPercyTelegraph
#Wolves are set to sign #BristolCity goalkeeper Daniel Bentley, who will have a medical on Wednesday. Wolves goalkeeper Matija Sarkic is expected to sign for #Stoke on loan for the rest of the season #wwfc
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 25, 2023, 09:49:08 PM
Sorba Thomas signs for Blackburn on loan from Huddersfield.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BalisPen on January 26, 2023, 01:36:47 AM
Sorba Thomas signs for Blackburn on loan from Huddersfield.

Very surprised at that.

We are incredibly skint or CC didn't rate him that highly.

I think he is a good player but needs to up his goal output a lot.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 26, 2023, 08:25:20 AM
Southampton have agreed a deal to sign Luton Town right-back James Bree with the player undergoing a medical at St Mary’s. #SaintsFC #LTFC

O Rourke

Only 750k apparently.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 26, 2023, 08:26:59 AM
Very surprised at that.

We are incredibly skint or CC didn't rate him that highly.

I think he is a good player but needs to up his goal output a lot.

Was going to say wasn't he rated at one point?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Atomic on January 26, 2023, 08:31:28 AM
Wouldn't have minded Bree as competition for Furlong.

Ah well!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 26, 2023, 08:32:09 AM
Wouldn't have minded Bree as competition for Furlong.

Ah well!

That 5m quid would have come in handy. Bargain at 750k
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 26, 2023, 05:34:50 PM
Bree all done and dusted, bargain if true at 750k
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 26, 2023, 07:27:55 PM
Rotherham United
@OfficialRUFC
✍| 𝗪𝗲𝗹𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗥𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗵𝗮𝗺 𝗨𝗻𝗶𝘁𝗲𝗱, 𝗖𝗼𝗻𝗼𝗿 𝗖𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗿𝘆!

The 22-year-old midfielder joins on loan from Premier League outfit West Ham United until the end of the season.

#rufc | #ForeverTogetherForeverProud

https://themillers.co.uk




Weren't this lad rated by some on here?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 26, 2023, 09:30:51 PM
Percy:

#Wolves are set to complete the €17m signing of Flamengo midfielder Joao Gomes. Gomes is expected to fly in for his medical early next week. Big signing for Julen Lopetegui #wwfc

That close to 100m this window?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on January 26, 2023, 10:12:12 PM
Percy:

#Wolves are set to complete the €17m signing of Flamengo midfielder Joao Gomes. Gomes is expected to fly in for his medical early next week. Big signing for Julen Lopetegui #wwfc

That close to 100m this window?
Desperate to stay up and that’s what it costs
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 27, 2023, 10:28:26 AM
Forest looking to sell On'Brien and Toffolo -Mirror
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on January 27, 2023, 10:36:16 AM
Forest looking to sell On'Brien and Toffolo -Mirror

Yes please if at all remotely possible.......... checks back of settee to begin the whip round while noting it's a red top rumour. Suddenly looks saddened and forlorn as he makes his way to the bog to rid himself of the rumour.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 27, 2023, 05:43:15 PM
Pete O'Rourke
@SportsPeteO
Bournemouth have sealed the £10.5m transfer of Bristol City forward Antoine Semenyo. #afcb #BristolCity


Bournemouth having a pop at it as well.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 27, 2023, 05:53:50 PM
Rumour they got him for 200-250k but it was in Scottish Sun so who knows:


Watford Football Club
@WatfordFC
✍️ Watford FC is pleased to confirm the arrival of defender Ryan Porteous from Scottish Premiership side Hibernian for an undisclosed fee, on a four-and-a-half-year deal.

Welcome, Ryan! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on January 27, 2023, 05:58:10 PM
Rumour they got him for 200-250k but it was in Scottish Sun so who knows:


Watford Football Club
@WatfordFC
✍️ Watford FC is pleased to confirm the arrival of defender Ryan Porteous from Scottish Premiership side Hibernian for an undisclosed fee, on a four-and-a-half-year deal.

Welcome, Ryan! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Well, that's another one we chalk off the list.

Alex (I think) won't be happy.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 27, 2023, 06:38:11 PM
Well, that's another one we chalk off the list.

Alex (I think) won't be happy.

I think a fair few in here said he's worth a punt sadly we got Lai as owner.


Edit BBC saying it's 450k
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BalisPen on January 28, 2023, 03:19:19 AM
Forest looking to sell On'Brien and Toffolo -Mirror

I mentioned these exact players as players we should go for on the incoming tat thread , as neither had played a lot since their moves.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BalisPen on January 28, 2023, 04:04:33 AM
Pete O'Rourke
@SportsPeteO
Bournemouth have sealed the £10.5m transfer of Bristol City forward Antoine Semenyo. #afcb #BristolCity


Bournemouth having a pop at it as well.

I cannot believe how average players from other clubs go for massive, when ours rarely do.

Furthermore, we think our academy is great because of the youth England Internationals we have, but they rarely progress and apart from bera never make much from them, unlike the likes of Bristol City and their conveyor belt.

I really hope Stevens can change this quickly.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 28, 2023, 09:41:20 AM
I mentioned these exact players as players we should go for on the incoming tat thread , as neither had played a lot since their moves.


Toffolo off to Anderlecht according to O Rourke

Nottingham Forest defender Harry Toffolo is in talks to join Anderlecht after turning down a potential loan move to Hull City. #NFFC #hcafc #Anderlecht
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 28, 2023, 12:27:53 PM
Now he's got a pre-agreement sorted hopefully he slacks off a bit.

Romano:

Ben Brereton Díaz has full agreement to join Villarreal in June as free agent — deal sealed and completed. 🚨🟡🤝🏻 #Villarreal

Premier League clubs were tracking him too but Brereton will join Villarreal.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 29, 2023, 12:06:51 PM
Burnley sign Obafemi on loan from Swansea with option to buy.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2023, 08:41:38 AM
Fulham close to signing Berge on a perm. We need to get O Brien 9ver the line before Blades get their money

Mike McGrath with the Fulham link
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: KYA on January 30, 2023, 09:26:51 AM
Fulham close to signing Berge on a perm. We need to get O Brien 9ver the line before Blades get their money

Mike McGrath with the Fulham link
Got to say I'm starting to feel pessimistic about this everything always takes an age with the Albion.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: tommcneill on January 30, 2023, 09:30:46 AM
Burnley sign Obafemi on loan from Swansea with option to buy.

They have some pace in that side they do.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Dan on January 30, 2023, 11:37:27 AM
I cannot believe how average players from other clubs go for massive, when ours rarely do.

Furthermore, we think our academy is great because of the youth England Internationals we have, but they rarely progress and apart from bera never make much from them, unlike the likes of Bristol City and their conveyor belt.

I really hope Stevens can change this quickly.

Seems to me our academy was good at spotting people already developed, very poor at developing them. Basically none of our players progress as they get older, it's remarkable. Even the ones who leave and go elsewhere are basically the same player they were as a teenager as they get more experience.

One of the reasons I wasn't too sad when hopcroft etc left.....who did they actually develop of quality? Berahinois the only player we produced good enough for the premier in 15 years. In terms of good enough for the championship it's a short list also. The goal of the academy is not developing england under 16s.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2023, 11:43:06 AM
They have some pace in that side they do.

I guess they are just signing enough players to see them over the line at this point. I think Obafemi is signing number 3 or 4 for them this window.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2023, 11:43:39 AM
Oli Burke off to Millwall on loan apparently.

Come on Millwall take Zohore back too
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on January 30, 2023, 11:53:47 AM
Oli Burke off to Millwall on loan apparently.

Come on Millwall take Zohore back too

Once bitten twice shy. No club's that stupid (unfortunately), not even Stoke would take Zohore on loan twice  ;D .
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2023, 12:11:55 PM
Once bitten twice shy. No club's that stupid (unfortunately), not even Stoke would take Zohore on loan twice  ;D .

Stop raining on my parade Dan. I'm trying to stay positive here mate  :P
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2023, 04:17:10 PM
O'Rourke relentless with his footy insider site

"Arsenal winger Marquinhos has passed a Norwich City medical after agreeing a loan move to Carrow Road. #afc #NCFC"
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2023, 05:15:26 PM
Chelsea agree to pay record British fee around £105m:

Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Enzo Fernández deal, entering in key and crucial hours — it’s getting closer. Chelsea bid made yesterday: €120m in installments, Benfica president Rui Costa expected to decide soon. 🚨🔵🇦🇷 #CFC

Todd Boehly and Behdad Egbhali are actively working on it together with the board.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: baggies_24 on January 30, 2023, 05:22:48 PM
Absolutely ridiculous that Chelsea can get away with their transfer activity this window, football has gone absolutely mental when a club can spend the best part of half a billion in transfer fee’s alone in one window.

Football especially in this country needs serious governance, it’s not sustainable in the slightest. The minute these owners get fed up of having to constantly pump millions into clubs to not even sniff the top 6 then clubs will start folding, Monshiri at Everton is a prime example £400m he’s put into Everton & he’s clearly given up / unwilling to put more in. They would fold tomorrow if he’s not willing to prop them up.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2023, 05:27:37 PM
Absolutely ridiculous that Chelsea can get away with their transfer activity this window, football has gone absolutely mental when a club can spend the best part of half a billion in transfer fee’s alone in one window.

Football especially in this country needs serious governance, it’s not sustainable in the slightest. The minute these owners get fed up of having to constantly pump millions into clubs to not even sniff the top 6 then clubs will start folding, Monshiri at Everton is a prime example £400m he’s put into Everton & he’s clearly given up / unwilling to put more in. They would fold tomorrow if he’s not willing to prop them up.


I read something last week Chelsea are exploiting a loop hole using long term deals and reducing yearly payments to remain FFP compliant. PL are working on closing it currently but won't be in time for this window of course.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2023, 06:19:57 PM
Here's an article posted just about how Chelsea have wangled it


https://www.sportbible.com/football/chelsea-transfers-boehly-enzo-fernandez-financial-fair-play-809825-20230128
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2023, 06:51:45 PM
Cesare Casadei signs for Reading on loan from Chelsea. Didn't they buy him for about 10-15m quid??
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: wba_1996 on January 30, 2023, 06:52:06 PM

I read something last week Chelsea are exploiting a loop hole using long term deals and reducing yearly payments to remain FFP compliant. PL are working on closing it currently but won't be in time for this window of course.

Risky if they don’t come off. Imagine they’ve committed to paying a player £150k a week for 8 years and they end up the next Bakayoko or Werner. A lot of them will, then what?

The governing bodies have got to get a grip on transfer fees though, the figures are killing European football and the English football pyramid. I give it 5 years until the top 3 in the Championship is competing with the likes of AC Milan and Marseille for signings, it’s completely broken and screws clubs like ours who wouldn’t be able to compete even if we had Prem TV money.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2023, 06:55:11 PM
Risky if they don’t come off. Imagine they’ve committed to paying a player £150k a week for 8 years and they end up the next Bakayoko or Werner. A lot of them will, then what?

The governing bodies have got to get a grip on transfer fees though, the figures are killing European football and the English football pyramid. I give it 5 years until the top 3 in the Championship is competing with the likes of AC Milan and Marseille for signings, it’s completely broken and screws clubs like ours who wouldn’t be able to compete even if we had Prem TV money.


Very risky but i assume their owners are happy to write off 5/10m here and there in the long term.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BalisPen on January 30, 2023, 06:57:01 PM
Risky if they don’t come off. Imagine they’ve committed to paying a player £150k a week for 8 years and they end up the next Bakayoko or Werner. A lot of them will, then what?

The governing bodies have got to get a grip on transfer fees though, the figures are killing European football and the English football pyramid. I give it 5 years until the top 3 in the Championship is competing with the likes of AC Milan and Marseille for signings, it’s completely broken and screws clubs like ours who wouldn’t be able to compete even if we had Prem TV money.

Even better if he's their new Bogarde.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: wba_1996 on January 30, 2023, 07:00:12 PM

Veryr isky but i assume their owners are happy to write off 5/10m here and there in the long term.

£150k a week for 8 years is £62m. A couple of flops on those sort of wages and it’s crazy money being wasted with no get out for the club. Look at Zohore, imagine we’d committed to an 8 year deal…
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2023, 07:03:12 PM
£150k a week for 8 years is £62m. A couple of flops on those sort of wages and it’s crazy money being wasted with no get out for the club. Look at Zohore, imagine we’d committed to an 8 year deal…


In fairness to Chelsea they will never hire anyone as useless as Dowling and in turn sign a player like Zohore. Doesn't mean they won't take a loss now and then but they are far beyond us and people there have some idea about football.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: baggies_24 on January 30, 2023, 07:08:42 PM
Risky if they don’t come off. Imagine they’ve committed to paying a player £150k a week for 8 years and they end up the next Bakayoko or Werner. A lot of them will, then what?

The governing bodies have got to get a grip on transfer fees though, the figures are killing European football and the English football pyramid. I give it 5 years until the top 3 in the Championship is competing with the likes of AC Milan and Marseille for signings, it’s completely broken and screws clubs like ours who wouldn’t be able to compete even if we had Prem TV money.

I saw over the weekend AC Milan pulled out of a deal for Zaniolo from Roma as they couldn’t compete with the package been offered by Bournemouth, the same Bournemouth who average 11,000 fans financially outbiding the current Seria A champions, absolute madness.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2023, 07:26:17 PM
Another one for Burnley

Pete O'Rourke
@SportsPeteO
Understand Burnley are set to sign Nice forward Deji Sotona on a free transfer. Evrything is agreed for the former Manchester United youngster to become Vincent Kompany's latest signing at Turf Moor. #BurnleyFC ##OGCNice #OGCN
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on January 30, 2023, 11:07:25 PM
Chelsea agree to pay record British fee around £105m:

Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Enzo Fernández deal, entering in key and crucial hours — it’s getting closer. Chelsea bid made yesterday: €120m in installments, Benfica president Rui Costa expected to decide soon. 🚨🔵🇦🇷 #CFC

Transfer fees being paid by the top PL clubs are spiralling ever more out of control, which also has a knock-on effect for clubs like ours. Just encourages us a club to pay way over the odds for players like Grant and Zohore, as its the 'going rate'. 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2023, 11:09:07 PM
Transfer fees being paid by the top PL clubs are spiralling ever more out of control, which also has a knock-on effect for clubs like ours. Just encourages us a club to pay way over the odds for players like Grant and Zohore, as its the 'going rate'.

I don't know..i don't think anything can facilitate anyone paying upto 8m for Zohore other than Dowling being useless
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on January 30, 2023, 11:38:59 PM
I don't know..i don't think anything can facilitate anyone paying upto 8m for Zohore other than Dowling being useless
My point is that when the likes of Chelsea are paying more than £100 million for players, £8 million (for a striker) sounds like small change. Whereas in reality, its a big chunk out of the budget, for clubs of our size.  That's not just talking about Zohore (which was a spectacular overestimate).
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2023, 11:43:43 PM
My point is that when the likes of Chelsea are paying more than £100 million for players, £8 million (for a striker) sounds like small change. Whereas in reality, its a big chunk out of the budget, for clubs of our size.  That's not just talking about Zohore (which was a spectacular overestimate).

I know mate but Zohore was an unforgivable deal to make regardless
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 31, 2023, 04:09:18 PM
Fulham and Palace interested in Sam Field who has 18 months left on his deal.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on January 31, 2023, 07:54:28 PM
Good on the lad, hope he drops Pardew a line if he gets a good deal
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 31, 2023, 08:00:06 PM
Good on the lad, hope he drops Pardew a line if he gets a good deal

Drops one of his nose hopefully
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 31, 2023, 08:52:54 PM
Everton in for Andre Ayew. Thought he'd retired!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 31, 2023, 10:35:35 PM
New British transfer record confirmation at Chelsea. 8.5 year deal 😂
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 31, 2023, 10:45:57 PM
Journo reckons Chelsea have spent 600m in this and the summer window.

Also says of the 7 new signings only 3 will be able to be named in CL squad
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on January 31, 2023, 11:19:44 PM
Jon Russell from Hudds, who we were strongly linked with, off to Barnsley according to BMail.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2023, 01:25:38 PM
Stoke managed a late one from Romano:

Official. Axel Tuanzebe has completed a loan move to Stoke City until the end of the season, Manchester United have signed the documents in time. 🔴🤝🏻 #MUFC
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on February 01, 2023, 01:26:30 PM
If you compare how our main promotion rivals did in the window, I think only Luton (Mkamba) Burnley (Obafemi), Watford (Hoedt) and Boro (Ramsay) actually strengthened. And Burnley are probably uncatachable anyway. So we probably haven't done too bad by comparison.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on February 01, 2023, 01:31:47 PM
Norwich have signed Arsenal winger and Brazil youth International Marquinhos, could be quite an exciting player who adds that x factor sides in our position need.

Boro signed England U21 nternational Cameron Archer and Dan Barlaser from Rotherham
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on February 01, 2023, 01:47:52 PM
If you compare how our main promotion rivals did in the window, I think only Luton (Mkamba) Burnley (Obafemi), Watford (Hoedt) and Boro (Ramsay) actually strengthened. And Burnley are probably uncatachable anyway. So we probably haven't done too bad by comparison.

So if the current top two maintain their current trajectory and we manage to nudge out Blackburn and make the playoffs alongside Luton, Boro and Watford only 100% of our playoff rivals will have improved their squads arguably more than ours? Well when you put it like that what we have we got to worry about?.....
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: alex1 on February 01, 2023, 04:27:10 PM
So if the current top two maintain their current trajectory and we manage to nudge out Blackburn and make the playoffs alongside Luton, Boro and Watford only 100% of our playoff rivals will have improved their squads arguably more than ours? Well when you put it like that what we have we got to worry about?.....
I was just trying to put our window into some perspective, although Baggies has added a few to my list. I think, on balance, and perhaps aside from Boro, we haven't lost any ground.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: KYA on February 01, 2023, 04:43:23 PM
Lewis O'Brien is no longer in Forest 25 man squad for the Premier if his proposed move to Blackburn which looks dubious fails he won't be playing until next season.I feel sorry for him but Forest fully deserves to be left with a player they can't use.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Dan on February 01, 2023, 04:58:44 PM
Lewis O'Brien is no longer in Forest 25 man squad for the Premier if his proposed move to Blackburn which looks dubious fails he won't be playing until next season.I feel sorry for him but Forest fully deserves to be left with a player they can't use.

Show's the folly of agreeing to pay 10m for him if they're promoted. He'll be worth half that at best if this loan doesn't go through (or even less if the loan does go through and he's average or worse).
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2023, 05:04:03 PM
Lewis O'Brien is no longer in Forest 25 man squad for the Premier if his proposed move to Blackburn which looks dubious fails he won't be playing until next season.I feel sorry for him but Forest fully deserves to be left with a player they can't use.


Serves Forest right if true. No sympathy for their greed. He will be rested for next season now at least  ;D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 01, 2023, 05:43:43 PM
Blackburn’s on-off move for Lewis O’Brien move is in the balance … and here is the breakdown of the drama.

Deadline day starts with Rovers following up a previous inquiry for the Nottingham Forest midfielder.

Rovers are happy to pay his wages in full on loan for the rest of the season and wait on the player to decide.

West Brom coach Carlos Corberan wants his old Huddersfield player to join his squad but the club is yet to commit.

Sheffield United are desperate for O’Brien and the player is keen on them. However Blades are under a transfer embargo and need to sell Sander Berge.

The Norwegian is waiting on Newcastle, who do not seem keen come the crunch. Alternative choices are headed by Brighton but they pull the plug in Moises Caicedo leaving and do not come in.

By this point Blackburn have kicked on and say they will take O’Brien and agree to the Forest demand that they sign him for £10 million.

This part of the deal hinges on Rovers being promoted and they are happy to do that. Baggies do not want to sign up for that plan.

At 3pm on deadline day O’Brien gives the green light to Blackburn and heads to Manchester for a medical.

There are no snags and his agents are at Blackburn to sort out terms on the potential full time move at the end of it.

O’Brien’s advisors and Blackburn discuss what the wages and length of contract will be in the deal should they go up.

Those figures are disclosed and Blackburn are not out off, but no contract for that eventuality is signed.

Paperwork is done and sent over for the loan but the timing is delayed by those discussions over the future of the player AFTER the end of the season.

There are no problems again and Forest say they are happy for the deal to go ahead on the basis agreed between the clubs.

In the frantic final minutes O’Brien, who did his interview with the club press, was interrupted just before the deadline to sign the form.

But then it is discovered that ONE signed form that was needed for the deal to proceed was not sent off after it was signed before 11pm.

Now the EFL are looking into the details and the explanations of the case - among several others that are also borderline decisions.



for me the deal will be done
 
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on February 01, 2023, 07:09:37 PM
Agree Devon. Would seem harsh not to allow the deal, albeit they did reject our Onomah appeal so who knows.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on February 01, 2023, 07:14:57 PM
Wouldn’t seem harsh to me, would seem consistent.

You either have to get the relevant paper work in or you don’t. They’ve made it clear in past cases that you do.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2023, 08:16:56 PM
Wouldn’t seem harsh to me, would seem consistent.

You either have to get the relevant paper work in or you don’t. They’ve made it clear in past cases that you do.


100%


They are not the first club to make an error so it's only right they get blocked like everyone else who has messed up.

Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on February 01, 2023, 10:44:53 PM
Agree Devon. Would seem harsh not to allow the deal, albeit they did reject our Onomah appeal so who knows.

Completely and utterly disagree. It wouldn't be remotely harsh given the example set by the Onomah deal. If anything the Onomah none deal should have set a precedent (if one were needed). What needs to change is the ridiculous differences in administration. If anything all domestic deals should have the same cut off point across the board regardless of division. Extensions should then be granted to suit foreign markets where necessary depending on the complexity of the deal.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 02, 2023, 02:09:49 PM
https://www.brfcs.com/uploads/monthly_2023_02/DB833A87-B6C0-406B-902C-D3548D5EB72E.png.ee74bd9273e5ae4142b8a32e9040431c.png


blackburn fans not happy. obviously good for us and we play them soon
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 02, 2023, 05:37:11 PM
https://www.brfcs.com/uploads/monthly_2023_02/DB833A87-B6C0-406B-902C-D3548D5EB72E.png.ee74bd9273e5ae4142b8a32e9040431c.png


blackburn fans not happy. obviously good for us and we play them soon


Correct decision made. If everything was not comleted to satisfaction at deadline it cannot be allowed.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 02, 2023, 08:19:28 PM
Forest have signed Andre Ayew as a free agent. Why the hell not?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on February 02, 2023, 10:50:38 PM
By signing Ayew, it means O'Brien now can't be registered in Forest's squad.

Serves Forest right for being too greedy, and if I've understood the reports right, maybe serves O'Brien and his team right for driving too hard a bargain at the Blackburn end.

The way the deadline day has gone has shine a light again on how poorly the gane treats it's players on a human level.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 03, 2023, 07:22:10 AM
By signing Ayew, it means O'Brien now can't be registered in Forest's squad.

Serves Forest right for being too greedy, and if I've understood the reports right, maybe serves O'Brien and his team right for driving too hard a bargain at the Blackburn end.

The way the deadline day has gone has shine a light again on how poorly the gane treats it's players on a human level.


i suspect Obrien will now go abroad on loan for the next few months to get a game
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 03, 2023, 08:47:47 AM
Forest confirm O'Brien left out of 25 man squad. If appeal successful he can go to somewhere like Croatia or Australia apparently.

He won't be playing in the UK anyway
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on March 31, 2023, 10:25:50 AM
Pereira's club Al Hilal make offer to Messi to make him the highest paid player ever.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on December 24, 2023, 01:23:12 PM
Bristol City trying to sign Scott Twine on a perm. Burnley want £2.5m according to Nixon

If they get Twine and TGH for £3.8m combined that's tremendous value at this level.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on December 28, 2023, 03:13:47 PM
Ipswich in for Diallo on loan from Man Utd according to Witcoop. Great signing if they pull it off.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Fritzl Palace on December 29, 2023, 12:20:28 AM
Ipswich in for Diallo on loan from Man Utd according to Witcoop. Great signing if they pull it off.

Sort of player we should be looking at. Tore up the league last season
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on December 29, 2023, 07:12:35 AM
Sort of player we should be looking at. Tore up the league last season

I think we will need new owners first sadly.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on December 31, 2023, 06:45:38 PM
Lyall Thomas
@SkySportsLyall

Exclusive: #Leicester want to sign #Liverpool winger Fabio Carvalho on loan after his return from #RBLeipzig. #LFC + player considering next options.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 03, 2024, 08:10:16 PM
Brereton Diaz off to Sheff Utd on loan. I seem to recall someone on the 'general incoming tat' thread saying he had been linked with us amazingly enough.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: WBArgo on January 04, 2024, 08:20:16 AM
Brereton Diaz off to Sheff Utd on loan. I seem to recall someone on the 'general incoming tat' thread saying he had been linked with us amazingly enough.

He's scored 0 in 14 and we're in a play-off spot so it isn't too surprising considering.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 04, 2024, 09:33:40 AM
He's scored 0 in 14 and we're in a play-off spot so it isn't too surprising considering.

True 😂

I was thinking about his wages mainly but that's a good point
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: iwastherein68 on January 04, 2024, 12:08:35 PM
He's scored 0 in 14 and we're in a play-off spot so it isn't too surprising considering.
He has been playing in La Liga though to be fair.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: MarkW on January 04, 2024, 12:26:49 PM
He has been playing in La Liga though to be fair.

Also those 14 appearances only total 260 minutes. I think he's only started 2 games, and has mostly been playing left wing from what I can see
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 10, 2024, 11:09:17 AM
Carvalho signs for Hull - Romano

Luke Ayling joins Boro on loan - Athletic.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on January 10, 2024, 11:35:12 AM
That’s 2 RBs Leeds have got rid of in the last few days
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 10, 2024, 11:40:20 AM
That’s 2 RBs Leeds have got rid of in the last few days

Ayling is done there now, he's out of contract at end of season.

Maybe Leeds looking for funds for someone else?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 10, 2024, 11:43:07 AM
The Hull video annoucing the signing of Carvalho is class :D

https://twitter.com/i/status/1745045322550706457
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: lewisant on January 10, 2024, 05:31:11 PM
Cracking signing for Hull. How depressing!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 11, 2024, 07:13:28 AM
Cracking signing for Hull. How depressing!


sods law they will be the ones to pip us for the playoffs
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: phbaggies on January 11, 2024, 11:52:06 AM
Luke Ayling, Leeds to Boro' is another good signing done which seems to have gone under the radar
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on January 14, 2024, 03:45:15 PM
Surprised to read that Jesse Lindgard still has no club, I can only think he is asking for megabucks.
Would have thought that a Leeds/ Soton would take a punt to help secure the 2nd spot
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 14, 2024, 03:46:11 PM
Surprised to read that Jesse Lindgard still has no club, I can only think he is asking for megabucks.
Would have thought that a Leeds/ Soton would take a punt to help secure the 2nd spot

Saw yesterday he has sacked his agents
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: FallOutBoy on January 14, 2024, 06:15:38 PM
If he's sacked his agents because he genuinely wants to play football, and it's not just a case of them not getting the contracts he wants, then I'd be tempted to offer him something here until the end of the season, with a big promotion bonus.

We'd see how much he 'just wants to play football' then...
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 16, 2024, 10:34:18 PM
If he's sacked his agents because he genuinely wants to play football, and it's not just a case of them not getting the contracts he wants, then I'd be tempted to offer him something here until the end of the season, with a big promotion bonus.

We'd see how much he 'just wants to play football' then...
2 weeks ago we could have offered 50% off the line green top…but I think that has expired now.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 17, 2024, 06:53:27 PM
Sunderland and Ipswich in for Kieffer Moore on loan
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 18, 2024, 08:18:09 PM
Villa have placed a bid for Morgan Rogers according to Romano, you couldn't make it up  ;D

Rogers keen to go apparently. Isn't he a baggies fan?

I could never play for the vile or dingles personally.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on January 19, 2024, 10:35:48 AM
Villa have placed a bid for Morgan Rogers according to Romano, you couldn't make it up  ;D

Rogers keen to go apparently. Isn't he a baggies fan?

I could never play for the vile or dingles personally.

Apparently so. Personally I could quite happily play for both Wolves AND Villa if the price was right. Wolves in the morning with a hangover and Villa in the afternoon when I was already knackered from playing for Wolves in the morning. I'd have to insist on wearing an Albion kit whilst scoring multiple own goals though............ (Agent SmethDan  ;) ).
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 19, 2024, 10:40:30 AM
Apparently so. Personally I could quite happily play for both Wolves AND Villa if the price was right. Wolves in the morning with a hangover and Villa in the afternoon when I was already knackered from playing for Wolves in the morning. I'd have to insist on wearing an Albion kit whilst scoring multiple own goals though............ (Agent SmethDan  ;) ).


 ;D

That's the only acceptable way to play for those 2 clubs i reckon!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 22, 2024, 12:29:14 PM
Bristol City have signed Josh Stokes from Aldershot ( rumoured to be their best player i think) and loaned him back for the rest of this season.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Mikkyk on January 22, 2024, 12:45:10 PM
Bristol City have signed Josh Stokes from Aldershot ( rumoured to be their best player i think) and loaned him back for the rest of this season.

Exactly the sort of signing we should be looking at. I wonder if our recruitment team even knew this player existed
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 22, 2024, 12:57:00 PM
Exactly the sort of signing we should be looking at. I wonder if our recruitment team even knew this player existed

Although the fee is undisclosed, Aldershot have said it's  a record for them....doubt we could afford it.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 22, 2024, 12:57:46 PM
Exactly the sort of signing we should be looking at. I wonder if our recruitment team even knew this player existed
I wonder how long it will take some people to realise we have no money?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 22, 2024, 01:02:46 PM
I wonder how long it will take some people to realise we have no money?

Only because some of the people in place have wasted a large chunk of it.

I think it's more that people are frustrated and we want the people who are somewhat responsible for our predicament gone, instead of sitting here collecting a ridiculous wage for their 'efforts'.

Exactly the sort of signing we should be looking at. I wonder if our recruitment team even knew this player existed


I imagine he's not on their radar/family/family friend or neighbour or related to any canteen staff.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 22, 2024, 01:04:58 PM
Although the fee is undisclosed, Aldershot have said it's  a record gor them....doubt we could afford it.

Current trasnfer record fee received is 200k, some websites are stating that the Stokes fee is 250k
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 22, 2024, 01:56:09 PM
Only because some of the people in place have wasted a large chunk of it.

I think it's more that people are frustrated and we want the people who are somewhat responsible for our predicament gone, instead of sitting here collecting a ridiculous wage for their 'efforts'.


I imagine he's not on their radar/family/family friend or neighbour or related to any canteen staff.
people were frustrated years ago because we didn’t push the boat out and show “ambition” then we got an owner that did that, blew all the money up against the wall (which is what others said would happen) and here we are with people still crying about a lack of “ambyshun”. Frankly it’s not worth griping about anymore as we have being hoisted by our own moronic petard. They got what they wanted in the PL and now we have to deal with the consequences.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 22, 2024, 02:48:00 PM
people were frustrated years ago because we didn’t push the boat out and show “ambition” then we got an owner that did that, blew all the money up against the wall (which is what others said would happen) and here we are with people still crying about a lack of “ambyshun”. Frankly it’s not worth griping about anymore as we have being hoisted by our own moronic petard. They got what they wanted in the PL and now we have to deal with the consequences.

The money was wasted but, as you point out, there was no quality control on anything since the day Lai arrived.

People are fed up as we have known we are running out of money for a few years now and yet the blokes in the positions of power still insist on using what we have on players at the ends of their careers.

I don't think the people who demanded we spend money in the PL meant it to be with no thought though, that's just Lai's ownership
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on January 22, 2024, 02:53:19 PM
The money was wasted but, as you point out, there was no quality control on anything since the day Lai arrived.

People are fed up as we have known we are running out of money for a few years now and yet the blokes in the positions of power still insist on using what we have on players at the ends of their careers.

I don't think the people who demanded we spend money in the PL meant it to be with no thought though, that's just Lai's ownership
You have to go back to Pulis to find the root of the decline
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 22, 2024, 02:54:42 PM
You have to go back to Pulis to find the root of the decline

I fully agree. It was under Lai that first let him do what he really wanted though
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 22, 2024, 03:08:56 PM
Millwall due to sign Obafemi on loan from Burnley - Romano
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 22, 2024, 03:13:16 PM
You have to go back to Pulis to find the root of the decline

Its easy to put blame on Pulis and yes he has a decent part to play in our decline but we were handing out contracts to aging players before he came and thats where the downfall started, rewarding players with higher wages and better deals rather than moving them on and looking to invest in young players to come into the team. We were too busy filling the bench with benchwarmers and waiting for players like Craig Gardner to sign on a free after chasing him for 2 years
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: NJS on January 22, 2024, 04:03:14 PM
We have just fallen behind the times in terms of analytics and recruitment practises.  It is now standard practise to augment traditional scouting with an initial hunt using data analytics.

https://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/98808/3/Book%2520Chapter%2520Role%2520of%2520Analytics%2520in%2520Assessing%2520Playing%2520Talent%2520%28Final%2520Feb%25202016%29%5B1%5D.pdf

We have seemed to rely on the manager's personal contacts and the recruitment team's card indexes.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on January 22, 2024, 04:31:08 PM
Millwall due to sign Obafemi on loan from Burnley - Romano

This was posted over an hour ago and not a single person has suggested 'we should have been all over this one' (with an offer of magic beans and morning mist presumably). This place isn't what it used to be. Disappointed beyond belief.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Albionic on January 22, 2024, 04:31:56 PM
You have to go back to Pulis to find the root of the decline

200% true !    Absolutely ruined this club !
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 22, 2024, 04:35:08 PM
This was posted over an hour ago and not a single person has suggested 'we should have been all over this one' (with an offer of magic beans and morning mist presumably). This place isn't what it used to be. Disappointed beyond belief.

I was going to suggest it before we signed Weimann so I CBA this time now someone else has gone in for him
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on January 22, 2024, 04:43:29 PM
I was going to suggest it before we signed Weimann so I CBA this time now someone else has gone in for him

I think we've got a good idea how and why we got Weimann. What were we going to sign Obafemi with? Magic beans? Morning mist? Combination of the two? Throw in a pre licked Green Shield Stamp perhaps?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 22, 2024, 04:58:44 PM
I think we've got a good idea how and why we got Weimann. What were we going to sign Obafemi with? Magic beans? Morning mist? Combination of the two? Throw in a pre licked Green Shield Stamp perhaps?

Before we signed Weimann I mean
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on January 22, 2024, 05:04:11 PM
Before we signed Weimann I mean

I knew you meant before we signed Weimann. We have a rough idea how we afforded Weimann. How were we going to afford Obafemi who is a lot younger and would presumably have attracted a higher loan fee than Weimann?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 22, 2024, 05:19:04 PM
I knew you meant before we signed Weimann. We have a rough idea how we afforded Weimann. How were we going to afford Obafemi who is a lot younger and would presumably have attracted a higher loan fee than Weimann?

I remove my original not thought out reply. I think he would have been a better loan.

We are looking to sign one more now JM out so the money was there
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on January 22, 2024, 05:28:06 PM
I remove my original not thought out reply. I think he would have been a better loan.

We are looking to sign one more now JM out so the money was there

I'm going out on a limb here to suggest you've got no better idea than I have as to how much the Obafemi package is costing Millwall and likewise you've no better idea than I have as to how much money the club has at it's disposal.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 22, 2024, 05:33:53 PM
I'm going out on a limb here to suggest you've got no better idea than I have as to how much the Obafemi package is costing Millwall and likewise you've no better idea than I have as to how much money the club has at it's disposal.

True. We are not employed by the club Dan. There was money for 2 signings is what we do know
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: hardtobeat on January 22, 2024, 05:58:55 PM
True. We are not employed by the club Dan. There was money for 2 signings is what we do know
Unlikely to be two from the Premier League !
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 22, 2024, 06:13:52 PM
Unlikely to be two from the Premier League !

True but we don't have 2 from the PL. We got Weimann from Bristol
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 22, 2024, 08:10:22 PM
The Athletic:

Emmanuel Dennis is returning to his former club Watford on loan from Nottingham Forest.

The deal does not have an option for a permanent move, and the 26-year-old’s medical is scheduled for the next 24 hours.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 23, 2024, 05:49:32 PM
Rob Dorsett

@RobDorsettSky

Big-spending #hullcity close to agreeing a loan deal for left-sided #luton player Ryan Giles. Discussions ongoing about whether option to buy at £5m, or obligation to do so, if he plays a certain number of matches. Ambitions of new Hull owners v clear.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 25, 2024, 04:34:54 PM
Blackburn reject 18.5m!!!! bid for Wharton from Palace according to BBC.

He's seemed a tidy player but 18.5m seems excessive to me based on the (limited) Blackburn games i've seen.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on January 25, 2024, 08:30:31 PM
It’s crazy what the necessity  of playing these kids can lead to. Our own Caleb Taylor is basically losing a year of football, after impressing by all accounts in league one, because he might cost us a couple of point in a season where we have a very slight chance of promotion. With a bit of bravery to play him and let him develop, who knows what we could be looking at.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 29, 2024, 06:54:54 PM
Southampton signings David Brooks on loan apparently. Great signing.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: royhan on January 29, 2024, 08:13:32 PM
Southampton signings David Brooks on Loa ln apparently. Great signing.
It would be a superb signing for the Saints. Brooks was man of the match in the last Bournemouth match that I watched
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on January 29, 2024, 09:19:26 PM
It would be a superb signing for the Saints. Brooks was man of the match in the last Bournemouth match that I watched

And yet if we'd signed him he'd have been 'injury prone'.

Fair play to the lad since coming back from Hodgkin lymphoma too.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 29, 2024, 09:22:42 PM
It would be a superb signing for the Saints. Brooks was man of the match in the last Bournemouth match that I watched

Too good for the champo in my opinion but here we are!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 29, 2024, 10:20:04 PM
Blues signing Alex Pritchard for 100k, apparently.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on January 29, 2024, 10:52:00 PM
Blues signing Alex Pritchard for 100k, apparently.

If so it'll be interesting to see the length of the contract on offer given that he's 30. Decent player. Pity we're playing them shortly especially as Mowbray is their new boss and obviously rates him. Lovely soft feet presumably.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2024, 09:27:54 AM
If so it'll be interesting to see the length of the contract on offer given that he's 30. Decent player. Pity we're playing them shortly especially as Mowbray is their new boss and obviously rates him. Lovely soft feet presumably.

The softest of all Dan!
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on January 30, 2024, 11:29:19 AM
The softest of all Dan!

Pedicure kit and Louis Vuitton foot powder as part of his signing on fee.

Strictly 100% not ITK   ;) .
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2024, 11:49:46 AM
Pedicure kit and Louis Vuitton foot powder as part of his signing on fee.

Strictly 100% not ITK   ;) .

One of the few people who still uses talc. Put's it on his feet for added retention
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2024, 11:51:02 AM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
🚨🔴🔵 Crystal Palace are closing in on deal to sign talented midfielder Adam Wharton from Blackburn.

Medical tests will take place today in London, already booked — as per @AndyBayes
.

Fee will be in excess of £20m.

Here we go, soon 🦅




20m + for Wharton, ridiculous.


Villa have offered 15m for Rogers from Boro apparently.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2024, 02:59:26 PM
Baggies fan Morgan Rogers on his way to the vile.

"John Percy
@JPercyTelegraph

#avfc poised to complete the signing of Middlesbrough forward Morgan Rogers for a deal worth up to £15m. Understand the fee is an initial £10m + a further £5m in add-ons. Deal agreed earlier this afternoon and meets the asking price #Boro were seeking"
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 30, 2024, 03:24:25 PM
Baggies fan Morgan Rogers on his way to the vile.

"John Percy
@JPercyTelegraph

#avfc poised to complete the signing of Middlesbrough forward Morgan Rogers for a deal worth up to £15m. Understand the fee is an initial £10m + a further £5m in add-ons. Deal agreed earlier this afternoon and meets the asking price #Boro were seeking"

They will be fielding a squad of fomer WBA Academy players before long.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2024, 04:06:24 PM
They will be fielding a squad of fomer WBA Academy players before long.

Boro only paid 1m for him apparently. Great deal for them even after the 25% sell on taken away.


Villa trying to buy everything we built thanks to Lai's ability to destroy everything he didn't build.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: smethwickw on January 30, 2024, 04:32:40 PM
Boro only paid 1m for him apparently. Great deal for them even after the 25% sell on taken away.


Villa trying to buy everything we built thanks to Lai's ability to destroy everything he didn't build.

Just the kind of signing we need to make. I very much doubt we'd have been back in for him even if we had some money available at the time.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2024, 04:41:46 PM
Just the kind of signing we need to make. I very much doubt we'd have been back in for him even if we had some money available at the time.

Boro made about 6.5m on a player in 6 months. Our blokes in charge could only dream of it.

As you say, he's not on our footy brains radars  most likely.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: johnny Cash on January 30, 2024, 05:10:26 PM
Morgan Rogers is a talented lad, I thought he had every chance of pushing on but he needed to find a home to play. He’s done that and now he’s putting himself back on the bench for the next 6 months, probably loaned back to the champ next summer. Villa have sold players like Archer, Ramsey and the midfielder to Hull who based on what I’ve seen probably have similar ceilings to Rogers and then spend £16m on him.

Just don’t get this one from a football perspective for him or  for him or Villa. At least financially it makes sense for Rogers.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: luke.jones1234 on January 30, 2024, 05:31:03 PM
With Morgan rogers going to villa,am I right in thinking we had a sell on clause?
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 30, 2024, 05:32:42 PM
With Morgan rogers going to villa,am I right in thinking we had a sell on clause?

I doubt it as we sold him to Man City and they then sold him to Middlesbrough when City had a sell on clause.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Jeremy Roland Peace on January 30, 2024, 05:33:29 PM
With Morgan rogers going to villa,am I right in thinking we had a sell on clause?

we had a sell on clause when he went from Man City to Middlesbrough.

we have no sell on clause for his move to Villa
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2024, 05:59:22 PM
Diallo asks Man U to let.him rejoin Sunderland
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2024, 07:44:08 PM
Brooks to Saints DONE
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 31, 2024, 10:57:11 AM
If so it'll be interesting to see the length of the contract on offer given that he's 30. Decent player. Pity we're playing them shortly especially as Mowbray is their new boss and obviously rates him. Lovely soft feet presumably.

Signing on a 2.5 year deal
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 31, 2024, 11:36:39 AM
Southampton selling Alcaraz to Juventus for 40m
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on January 31, 2024, 01:16:33 PM
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano


🚨🟣🔵 EXCLUSIVE: Aston Villa agree deal to sign Lino Sousa from Arsenal on permanent move, here we go!

Agreement in place for 2005 born fullback who’s set to complete medical in the next hours.

Rangers, Galatasaray and Juve were keen but Sousa set to join #AVFC.


Another of ours :D
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Baggies on January 31, 2024, 01:57:28 PM
It's an odd recruitment strategy to pay over the odds to basically re-sign every academy kid Albion lost.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2024, 10:11:04 AM
Darren Witcoop
@DarrenOWitcoop


Bournemouth hope to wrap up a deal for Getafe’s Turkish striker Enes Unal. Set to pave the way for Keiffer Moore to leave on loan amid strong Championship interest. Dominic Solanke staying put. #afcbournemouth #DeadlineDay #itfc #ccfc #sunderland

Wonder if we will move for Keiffer with that kids 1m quid
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: SmethDan on February 01, 2024, 10:16:22 AM
Darren Witcoop
@DarrenOWitcoop


Bournemouth hope to wrap up a deal for Getafe’s Turkish striker Enes Unal. Set to pave the way for Keiffer Moore to leave on loan amid strong Championship interest. Dominic Solanke staying put. #afcbournemouth #DeadlineDay #itfc #ccfc #sunderland

Wonder if we will move for Keiffer with that kids 1m quid

No idea but we'll find out in less than 24 hours  ;) .
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2024, 10:32:13 AM
No idea but we'll find out in less than 24 hours  ;) .

It's so exciting Dan!

I do actually love transfer deadline day even though we are terrible at it usually.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: lewisant on February 01, 2024, 11:22:21 AM
Darren Witcoop
@DarrenOWitcoop


Bournemouth hope to wrap up a deal for Getafe’s Turkish striker Enes Unal. Set to pave the way for Keiffer Moore to leave on loan amid strong Championship interest. Dominic Solanke staying put. #afcbournemouth #DeadlineDay #itfc #ccfc #sunderland

Wonder if we will move for Keiffer with that kids 1m quid


Can’t see us going for a striker today
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2024, 11:23:13 AM

Can’t see us going for a striker today

Probably not now the MJ news is out
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2024, 11:58:15 AM
Moore off to Ipswich, where else according to Alex crook


Deal agreed between #ITFC and #AFCB for Kieffer Moore. Loan until the end of the season with bonus payments if the Tractor Boys go up. Ipswich also covering 75 per cent of Moore's wages. Excellent signing for them IMO.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on February 01, 2024, 01:18:55 PM
Moore off to Ipswich, where else according to Alex crook


Deal agreed between #ITFC and #AFCB for Kieffer Moore. Loan until the end of the season with bonus payments if the Tractor Boys go up. Ipswich also covering 75 per cent of Moore's wages. Excellent signing for them IMO.

Yep and most of our fan based moaned when we were linked with him in August
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: boingboing1989 on February 01, 2024, 01:27:06 PM
Pritchard signs for Blues. Odds on to score then saturday.
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: Fritzl Palace on February 01, 2024, 03:10:47 PM
Pritchard signs for Blues. Odds on to score then saturday.

He does always score or assist against us
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2024, 03:20:56 PM
Yep and most of our fan based moaned when we were linked with him in August

Think he would do well here myself
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2024, 03:22:10 PM
Holgate ending his Saints loan to go to Sheff U on loan - Athletic
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2024, 05:01:16 PM
Isaac hayden signs for QPR on loan from Newcastle - Romano
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2024, 07:18:09 PM
Kieffer Moore signs for Ipswich -done deal
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 01, 2024, 10:56:55 PM
Dwight Gayle has reached a mutual agreement to end his deal at Stoke and now a free agent as per Romano
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: BagAlbion123 on February 02, 2024, 12:03:21 PM
Dwight Gayle has reached a mutual agreement to end his deal at Stoke and now a free agent as per Romano

Turning out a wise decision we didn't go back in for him! But will never forget that J Rod season
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: gazberg on February 02, 2024, 12:35:42 PM
Turning out a wise decision we didn't go back in for him! But will never forget that J Rod season

He was dynamite that season but as you say well past it now
Title: Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
Post by: boingboing1989 on February 02, 2024, 04:55:31 PM
Turning out a wise decision we didn't go back in for him! But will never forget that J Rod season
Ruined his career not coming back, he sat in the stands for a season and never recovered and his legs went. Still say if he came that season he would of had 30+ with Pereira behind him.