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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1875 on: November 22, 2021, 04:30:27 PM »
Well that’s cheered me right up.
Shame they couldn’t have found something to ban Phillips and Bartley for.
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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1876 on: November 22, 2021, 04:36:24 PM »
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« Reply #1877 on: November 22, 2021, 04:44:48 PM »
Not an Albion fan then !

Definitely not, it's not as if I have held a season ticket for in excess of thirty years now and still traipse down there despite the lack of any form of ambition being shown by the club  ::)

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1878 on: November 22, 2021, 05:29:37 PM »
I’m with Fritzl on this - happy the ban has been upheld as the team is better when he’s not on the pitch.

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1879 on: November 22, 2021, 05:36:14 PM »
Great news - the best we've had at WBA in ages.

All of a sudden I fancy us to win at Blackpool and at least create some chances!


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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1880 on: November 22, 2021, 05:46:22 PM »
OK let's see what happens:

Mowatt and Snodgrass?

Snodgrass and Molumby?

Molumby and Mowatt?

Hope for the last but expect the first :'(

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« Reply #1881 on: November 22, 2021, 05:53:43 PM »
OK let's see what happens:

Mowatt and Snodgrass?

Snodgrass and Molumby?

Molumby and Mowatt?

Hope for the last but expect the first :'(

Got to be the ‘Two M’s’
but Val will probably surprise us all.

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1882 on: November 22, 2021, 06:08:17 PM »
Red card upheld , ridiculous regardless of what you think of JL, further weakens squad that is already paper thin
Assuming a level playing field, now's the chance for Molumby to cement his place in the starting line-up. I agree about the squad being paper thin in central midfield though.

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« Reply #1883 on: November 22, 2021, 06:12:04 PM »
I’m with Fritzl on this - happy the ban has been upheld as the team is better when he’s not on the pitch.
Having a senior pro banned when we have a paper thin squad as it is is not good no matter what you think of the individual concerned . Snodgrass was out injured Saturday , Mowatt has missed as many games as he’s played in the last couple of months , Molumby pulled out of the Irish squad , Castro has been injured . Come the Coventry game we could be in dire straits in the engine room of the team . The thinking that having somebody suspended is good for the club is plain idiotic
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« Reply #1884 on: November 22, 2021, 06:24:37 PM »
Having a senior pro banned when we have a paper thin squad as it is is not good no matter what you think of the individual concerned . Snodgrass was out injured Saturday , Mowatt has missed as many games as he’s played in the last couple of months , Molumby pulled out of the Irish squad , Castro has been injured . Come the Coventry game we could be in dire straits in the engine room of the team . The thinking that having somebody suspended is good for the club is plain idiotic

Ajayi could do better as CM than Livermore.  For starters he can tackle and is more mobile, OK he would lack creativity (no difference there).

Then you could promote one of the U23 kids and would be on a par with JL!

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« Reply #1885 on: November 22, 2021, 07:32:38 PM »
Ajayi could do better as CM than Livermore.  For starters he can tackle and is more mobile, OK he would lack creativity (no difference there).

Then you could promote one of the U23 kids and would be on a par with JL!

Definitely not.

I’m still having nightmare of Ajayi’s performances in midfield against Sheff Wed and Blackpool last season.
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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1886 on: November 22, 2021, 07:45:50 PM »
Great news - the best we've had at WBA in ages.

All of a sudden I fancy us to win at Blackpool and at least create some chances!
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« Reply #1887 on: November 22, 2021, 09:05:02 PM »
Its not ideal as the squad is paper thin. However the positive is that it forces val hand to change his system at least a little and might save his own neck.

Hopefully we see mowatt and molumby. I dont want Livermore to get an extension he is one of quite a few that are overpaid and overrated by the club.

Whilst the current ownership is here we need to have a younger and technically better squad on less money to have any chance of going up and staying up to be sold
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« Reply #1888 on: November 22, 2021, 09:11:21 PM »
Definitely not.

I’m still having nightmare of Ajayi’s performances in midfield against Sheff Wed and Blackpool last season.

Livermore has had more than just 2 nightmare performances, a good chunk of last season's matches for instance.

He's now coming up against players on X10 less in wages and still coming up short.

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« Reply #1889 on: November 22, 2021, 09:14:02 PM »
Unbelievably crass comment

You've been around longer than me.  However, you clearly see something in him that others don't.

There's many other WBA players that have faced flak down the years he's not the only one.

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« Reply #1890 on: November 22, 2021, 10:22:18 PM »
Great news - the best we've had at WBA in ages.

All of a sudden I fancy us to win at Blackpool and at least create some chances!

You don’t like him, we get it. We are infinitely better without him…. Oh wait a minute, Middlesbrough at home, very poor display when Livermore was suspended. Our poor form is not all down to him you know.

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« Reply #1891 on: November 22, 2021, 10:53:51 PM »
I think GREGMT's going to need a bigger keep net. He'll be able to feed the 5,000 at this rate........ ;D .
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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1892 on: November 22, 2021, 11:29:03 PM »
I’m not happy the ban’s been upheld because I can’t ever see how losing a player helps us.

But Livermore’s no good anyway, so I’m not sure it really matters very much.

And this is the umpteenth time he’s been suspended - he’s forever getting booked or sent off.

A poor player. Doesn’t score, doesn’t create, has no pace or incisiveness. But his likely replacements don’t either, which says much about the poverty of our squad. 🤷‍♂️

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1893 on: November 23, 2021, 08:25:06 AM »
Give the guy a break, he plays in the stripes.  I think the problem is his main strengths are defensive, and we don't really need that with 3 CBs.

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« Reply #1894 on: November 23, 2021, 08:54:07 AM »
Over to Val now to try something different.
Livermore is a poor player and there's absolutely no reason for him to have a guaranteed place in the 11, but this now becomes a real test of his understudies, if they do a great job then they should be allowed to continue, if they fail, then there can be no complaints if Livermore comes back in.
No agenda, no disrespect, just simple process really, it's not rocket science.

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1895 on: November 23, 2021, 09:50:18 AM »
Ajayi could do better as CM than Livermore.  For starters he can tackle and is more mobile, OK he would lack creativity (no difference there).

Then you could promote one of the U23 kids and would be on a par with JL!
Yeah right he’s not good enough to get in the side in his natural position so he can play in somebody else’s. Don’t forget we tried this and it was an awful failure !
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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1896 on: November 23, 2021, 10:16:27 AM »
Yeah right he’s not good enough to get in the side in his natural position so he can play in somebody else’s. Don’t forget we tried this and it was an awful failure !

2 games to judge Ajayi in that position is not a big sample size.

By contrast Livermore had 17 EPL games last season, where teams just walked through our midfield, embarrassing.  This season, we just tread water with him in the side.  If you think different, fine.


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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1897 on: November 23, 2021, 12:52:55 PM »
Over to Val now to try something different.
Livermore is a poor player and there's absolutely no reason for him to have a guaranteed place in the 11, but this now becomes a real test of his understudies, if they do a great job then they should be allowed to continue, if they fail, then there can be no complaints if Livermore comes back in.
No agenda, no disrespect, just simple process really, it's not rocket science.

Now this is a post I agree with. Lets see how things work out over next 3 games and take it from there. No man should be guaranteed a place in the side. Equally, some see JL as the root of all our evils. If only it was so simple!

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1898 on: November 27, 2021, 05:18:24 AM »
Gerrin better without Jake ay it ? Mulumby's showin um ay he?
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« Reply #1899 on: November 27, 2021, 07:08:16 AM »
Livermore is finished and can only play for 60mins.  We lost a T Huddersfield remember.

One thing is for sure, recall Livermore and we get worse.....