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« Reply #3150 on: July 28, 2016, 10:15:56 AM »
Are we really being taken over? And will we see any changes this season? Doesn't look like it and there doesn't seem any truth in stories that the new owners are funding transfers. What transfers? 1 player in and he arrived a year late. Leicester want 10m for Schlupp and we have offered 9m, that's typical Peace, not some billionaire pulling the strings while the paperwork on a takeover is agreed.
And as for Pulis, well a leopard doesn't change his spots. Last summer he said he wanted to buy specialist full backs and bought 2 centre halfs. This summer he's been banging on about specialist full backs again yet we're just linked with centre halfs. He's telling us what we want to hear, fact is he's going to play 4 centre halfs across the back and tough luck if it's boring. What was the point of Hammond? We all knew TP would just buy the type of player he wanted and not listen to any recommendations. I mean why chase Phillips for so long? Macmanamans a better out and out winger anyway but Pulis never plays him, after chasing him and making him one of his first signings.
TP promised us midfield flair yet we all know it'll be Maclean and Gardner starting until at least the end of August. Who doesn't agree that we can't stay up again with them pair as regulars?
Sorry for the doom and gloom but it's all this talk of new owners, better players and a more exciting style to watch coupled with zero activity that is killing me. Hopefully in the next day or so I'll be proved wrong and the new owners will be announced followed by 4 or 5 new players.


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« Reply #3151 on: July 28, 2016, 10:20:23 AM »
A football match is played over 90 minutes, the summer transfer window is played over 62 days, be patient, it's not even half time yet.
As our start to the season isn't as tough as it might have been, we need to get some points on the board asap ahead of the more difficult games coming along. Bringing in players once the season has started, particularly if most of them are on Aug 31st, won't help us to achieve that. Let's hope that the new owners understand that even if Peace never has.

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« Reply #3152 on: July 28, 2016, 10:21:34 AM »
A football match is played over 90 minutes, the summer transfer window is played over 62 days, be patient, it's not even half time yet.
At least we've had one shot on target. :D
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« Reply #3153 on: July 28, 2016, 10:28:26 AM »
Are we really being taken over? And will we see any changes this season? Doesn't look like it and there doesn't seem any truth in stories that the new owners are funding transfers. What transfers? 1 player in and he arrived a year late. Leicester want 10m for Schlupp and we have offered 9m, that's typical Peace, not some billionaire pulling the strings while the paperwork on a takeover is agreed.
And as for Pulis, well a leopard doesn't change his spots. Last summer he said he wanted to buy specialist full backs and bought 2 centre halfs. This summer he's been banging on about specialist full backs again yet we're just linked with centre halfs. He's telling us what we want to hear, fact is he's going to play 4 centre halfs across the back and tough luck if it's boring. What was the point of Hammond? We all knew TP would just buy the type of player he wanted and not listen to any recommendations. I mean why chase Phillips for so long? Macmanamans a better out and out winger anyway but Pulis never plays him, after chasing him and making him one of his first signings.
TP promised us midfield flair yet we all know it'll be Maclean and Gardner starting until at least the end of August. Who doesn't agree that we can't stay up again with them pair as regulars?
Sorry for the doom and gloom but it's all this talk of new owners, better players and a more exciting style to watch coupled with zero activity that is killing me. Hopefully in the next day or so I'll be proved wrong and the new owners will be announced followed by 4 or 5 new players.

Do you have evidence that Leicester want exactly £10m for Schlupp?  Perhaps you email Hammond about it.

The club are trying to sign players. There is a takeover going on and I assume the outcome of it happening or not will effect the budget. There is still over a month of the transfer window to go. We need about 4 or 5 players as you say that is easily done.

The moaning about transfers is getting ridiculous. I think the club should run some kind of classes to explain why we can't sign 8 players every July.
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« Reply #3154 on: July 28, 2016, 10:31:24 AM »
Sale falls through, go down and the new buyer gets it for 50 million next year
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« Reply #3155 on: July 28, 2016, 10:33:05 AM »
Are we really being taken over? And will we see any changes this season? Doesn't look like it and there doesn't seem any truth in stories that the new owners are funding transfers. What transfers? 1 player in and he arrived a year late. Leicester want 10m for Schlupp and we have offered 9m, that's typical Peace, not some billionaire pulling the strings while the paperwork on a takeover is agreed.
And as for Pulis, well a leopard doesn't change his spots. Last summer he said he wanted to buy specialist full backs and bought 2 centre halfs. This summer he's been banging on about specialist full backs again yet we're just linked with centre halfs.
He's telling us what we want to hear, fact is he's going to play 4 centre halfs across the back and tough luck if it's boring. What was the point of Hammond? We all knew TP would just buy the type of player he wanted and not listen to any recommendations. I mean why chase Phillips for so long? Macmanamans a better out and out winger anyway but Pulis never plays him, after chasing him and making him one of his first signings.
TP promised us midfield flair yet we all know it'll be Maclean and Gardner starting until at least the end of August. Who doesn't agree that we can't stay up again with them pair as regulars?
Sorry for the doom and gloom but it's all this talk of new owners, better players and a more exciting style to watch coupled with zero activity that is killing me. Hopefully in the next day or so I'll be proved wrong and the new owners will be announced followed by 4 or 5 new players.

Regarding Peace; it's the other way round.Offer was in before they priced Schlupp.
Regarding Pulis; we are linked heavily with Taylor from Leeds who is a left back, I'm sure at least one of the overseas players we have been linked with is also a left back. Schlupp can also play as a left back.

McManaman's career stats are worse than Phillips'; less assists, less goals, more red & yellow cards meaning more games missed through suspension.
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« Reply #3156 on: July 28, 2016, 10:34:49 AM »
As our start to the season isn't as tough as it might have been, we need to get some points on the board asap ahead of the more difficult games coming along. Bringing in players once the season has started, particularly if most of them are on Aug 31st, won't help us to achieve that. Let's hope that the new owners understand that even if Peace never has.

I'm not sure you can grade matches, they're all tough. Without doubt the strategy will continue to be built on defence & counter attack, but we have Matt Phillips & a rejuvinated James Morrison to add some pace to the counter. That's assuming Saido will be gone.
I don't think we'll be world beaters, but I think we've got enough to hold our own at the moment, I'm not a bit concerned.
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« Reply #3157 on: July 28, 2016, 10:36:05 AM »
Do you have evidence that Leicester want exactly £10m for Schlupp?  Perhaps you email Hammond about it.

The club are trying to sign players. There is a takeover going on and I assume the outcome of it happening or not will effect the budget. There is still over a month of the transfer window to go. We need about 4 or 5 players as you say that is easily done.

The moaning about transfers is getting ridiculous. I think the club should run some kind of classes to explain why we can't sign 8 players every July.

So do I
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« Reply #3158 on: July 28, 2016, 10:36:46 AM »
Are we really being taken over? And will we see any changes this season? Doesn't look like it and there doesn't seem any truth in stories that the new owners are funding transfers. What transfers? 1 player in and he arrived a year late. Leicester want 10m for Schlupp and we have offered 9m, that's typical Peace, not some billionaire pulling the strings while the paperwork on a takeover is agreed.
And as for Pulis, well a leopard doesn't change his spots. Last summer he said he wanted to buy specialist full backs and bought 2 centre halfs. This summer he's been banging on about specialist full backs again yet we're just linked with centre halfs. He's telling us what we want to hear, fact is he's going to play 4 centre halfs across the back and tough luck if it's boring. What was the point of Hammond? We all knew TP would just buy the type of player he wanted and not listen to any recommendations. I mean why chase Phillips for so long? Macmanamans a better out and out winger anyway but Pulis never plays him, after chasing him and making him one of his first signings.
TP promised us midfield flair yet we all know it'll be Maclean and Gardner starting until at least the end of August. Who doesn't agree that we can't stay up again with them pair as regulars?
Sorry for the doom and gloom but it's all this talk of new owners, better players and a more exciting style to watch coupled with zero activity that is killing me. Hopefully in the next day or so I'll be proved wrong and the new owners will be announced followed by 4 or 5 new players.
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« Reply #3159 on: July 28, 2016, 10:46:50 AM »
Are we really being taken over? And will we see any changes this season? Doesn't look like it and there doesn't seem any truth in stories that the new owners are funding transfers. What transfers? 1 player in and he arrived a year late. Leicester want 10m for Schlupp and we have offered 9m, that's typical Peace, not some billionaire pulling the strings while the paperwork on a takeover is agreed.
And as for Pulis, well a leopard doesn't change his spots. Last summer he said he wanted to buy specialist full backs and bought 2 centre halfs. This summer he's been banging on about specialist full backs again yet we're just linked with centre halfs. He's telling us what we want to hear, fact is he's going to play 4 centre halfs across the back and tough luck if it's boring. What was the point of Hammond? We all knew TP would just buy the type of player he wanted and not listen to any recommendations. I mean why chase Phillips for so long? Macmanamans a better out and out winger anyway but Pulis never plays him, after chasing him and making him one of his first signings.
TP promised us midfield flair yet we all know it'll be Maclean and Gardner starting until at least the end of August. Who doesn't agree that we can't stay up again with them pair as regulars?
Sorry for the doom and gloom but it's all this talk of new owners, better players and a more exciting style to watch coupled with zero activity that is killing me. Hopefully in the next day or so I'll be proved wrong and the new owners will be announced followed by 4 or 5 new players.

Blimey! Did you read the post by PsalmXIII? How does that attitude support our club?

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« Reply #3160 on: July 28, 2016, 10:53:59 AM »
Are we really being taken over? And will we see any changes this season? Doesn't look like it and there doesn't seem any truth in stories that the new owners are funding transfers. What transfers? 1 player in and he arrived a year late. Leicester want 10m for Schlupp and we have offered 9m, that's typical Peace, not some billionaire pulling the strings while the paperwork on a takeover is agreed.
And as for Pulis, well a leopard doesn't change his spots. Last summer he said he wanted to buy specialist full backs and bought 2 centre halfs. This summer he's been banging on about specialist full backs again yet we're just linked with centre halfs. He's telling us what we want to hear, fact is he's going to play 4 centre halfs across the back and tough luck if it's boring. What was the point of Hammond? We all knew TP would just buy the type of player he wanted and not listen to any recommendations. I mean why chase Phillips for so long? Macmanamans a better out and out winger anyway but Pulis never plays him, after chasing him and making him one of his first signings.
TP promised us midfield flair yet we all know it'll be Maclean and Gardner starting until at least the end of August. Who doesn't agree that we can't stay up again with them pair as regulars?
Sorry for the doom and gloom but it's all this talk of new owners, better players and a more exciting style to watch coupled with zero activity that is killing me. Hopefully in the next day or so I'll be proved wrong and the new owners will be announced followed by 4 or 5 new players.

This is exactly why we need new owners. The sooner the better IMO. Hopefully they will bring in a higher profile head coach and make us an attractive proposition for players again. Lets face it we must be close to the bottom of desired clubs for players to join for many reasons.
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« Reply #3161 on: July 28, 2016, 10:58:17 AM »
Blimey! Did you read the post by PsalmXIII? How does that attitude support our club?

Great post from PsalmXXIII but I'm just saying how I feel today, right now, about the situation.

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« Reply #3162 on: July 28, 2016, 11:03:34 AM »
Great post from PsalmXXIII but I'm just saying how I feel today, right now, about the situation.


and its most likely how you will feel this time next year
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« Reply #3163 on: July 28, 2016, 11:17:06 AM »
This is exactly why we need new owners. The sooner the better IMO. Hopefully they will bring in a higher profile head coach and make us an attractive proposition for players again. Lets face it we must be close to the bottom of desired clubs for players to join for many reasons.

What would be some, of the many reasons for players not to want to join us?
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« Reply #3164 on: July 28, 2016, 11:21:39 AM »
What would be some, of the many reasons for players not to want to join us?
style of football has to be top reason

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« Reply #3165 on: July 28, 2016, 11:21:39 AM »
Blimey! Did you read the post by PsalmXIII? How does that attitude support our club?

Was very true words from PsalmXIII but the frustration is also there, I guess that's the joys of being a baggie!  ;D

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« Reply #3166 on: July 28, 2016, 11:24:21 AM »
What would be some, of the many reasons for players not to want to join us?

1. We are likely to be in a relegation battle.
2. Style of play.
3. Relegation flex down of wages.
4. Location.
5. Club lacking ambition.

Wages don't seem to be too much of an issue these days as it appears we are willing to pay well. Am I also right in thinking that some agents won't deal with JP (and vice versa). If so this obviously narrows our target pool.

With new owners and new head coach I believe that all of the above (except for location) would change.
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« Reply #3167 on: July 28, 2016, 11:24:42 AM »
I dread to think what the reaction would be like should this takeover not happen.  :o

Think it might tip some of these fans over the edge by the look of some of the comments/posts on here and other social medias.
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« Reply #3168 on: July 28, 2016, 11:25:11 AM »
What would be some, of the many reasons for players not to want to join us?

The fact pulis will sign players and either do his best to not play them, or play them out of the preferred position... which he has proven last season.  Great guy, does a job, kept us up somehow but it's got to the point where the premier league doesn't interest me anymore.... I'd rather pay for my season ticket and watch us in a lower league playing entertaining football to be quite honest

Let's hope this takeover happens soon and we see some changes for the better of the club

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« Reply #3169 on: July 28, 2016, 11:42:00 AM »
Blimey! Did you read the post by PsalmXIII? How does that attitude support our club?
in fairness they are for most fans both true just opposite side of the coin . Cause and effect if you like
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« Reply #3170 on: July 28, 2016, 11:49:36 AM »
For Christ Sake stop all the doom and gloom lets be positive about this, not many clubs have bought players yet and if they have they`ve  paid over the top prices.  Things will change players will be bought in the takeover will happen so lets be positive and happy.

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« Reply #3171 on: July 28, 2016, 11:53:55 AM »
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The fact pulis will sign players and either do his best to not play them, or play them out of the preferred position...

So Pulis bashing invades this post now! When will people give it a rest!

The only player he signed and didn't play was Chester, who he signed to play as a right-sided centre-back or at right back but couldn't get in the team because of the form of Craig Dawson, our most consistent player last season, and the evergreen GMac. But hey, let's not let the facts get in the way of a good dose of prejudice.

Signing the right players will never be easy for us, even if we end up under pots-of-money foreign ownership.

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« Reply #3172 on: July 28, 2016, 11:56:46 AM »
So Pulis bashing invades this post now! When will people give it a rest!

The only player he signed and didn't play was Chester, who he signed to play as a right-sided centre-back or at right back but couldn't get in the team because of the form of Craig Dawson, our most consistent player last season, and the evergreen GMac. But hey, let's not let the facts get in the way of a good dose of prejudice.

Signing the right players will never be easy for us, even if we end up under pots-of-money foreign ownership.

No not at all, I answered a question. It's a forum for people's opinions, not 'pulis bashing' just saying it how it is

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« Reply #3173 on: July 28, 2016, 11:59:17 AM »
So Pulis bashing invades this post now! When will people give it a rest!

The only player he signed and didn't play was Chester, who he signed to play as a right-sided centre-back or at right back but couldn't get in the team because of the form of Craig Dawson, our most consistent player last season, and the evergreen GMac. But hey, let's not let the facts get in the way of a good dose of prejudice.

Signing the right players will never be easy for us, even if we end up under pots-of-money foreign ownership.

You can add Lambert, Mcmanaman, Gnabry, Sandro, Pritchard to that list.

Signing players would become easier for us with new owners and a new head coach IMO.
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« Reply #3174 on: July 28, 2016, 12:00:31 PM »
No not at all, I answered a question. It's a forum for people's opinions, not 'pulis bashing' just saying it how it is

Is 'Pulis defending' the opposite of 'Pulis bashing'? If so I'm sure he'd like that term! :D
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