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« Reply #7450 on: November 22, 2021, 08:50:26 AM »
What are you suggesting, that if this was true he should have taken a £140m - £160m hit on what he could have got from this clown we have now?

I'm not suggesting anything, just pointing out the differences in valuations.

Both from Chinese businesses, one from a huge corporation, the other from an ambitious medium sized businessman.
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« Reply #7451 on: November 22, 2021, 09:00:42 AM »
Not even sure whether it’s true to be honest - there was absolutely nothing in the media to support it.

It almost feels it’s now a stick to beat Peace with given our takeover has gone tits up whilst Wolves has been relatively fruitful.

It wasn't intended to be a stick, if somebody wants to pay £180 to £200 million for my business I'd take it.

On paper, the Eco town project looked like a great idea, & as I understand it, it's still part of the Chinese policy, but on the back burner at the moment.

As I've replied on another post, if the Fosun rumour was true, it's remarkable how different the valuation of the bids were.
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« Reply #7452 on: November 22, 2021, 09:22:08 AM »
This is what was reported in June 2015;

However, I understand Peace is still immersed in dialogue with a number of foreign investors from China, America and the Far East to hand over his 88 per cent stake in Albion.

Peace had set a bargaining price of around £150 million for his shares and I understand he believes a deal can be finalised before Albion’s players report back for duty on June 29 before flying to Austria for a training camp.


So it is clear that other parties were interested and Peace did enter into an exclusivity arrangement with an interested party which he then terminated in July 2015. Part of his statement is as follows;

 â€œI have today brought to a close the period of exclusivity announced on July 3 and suspended negotiations with the interested party involved over the sale of West Bromwich Albion Holdings Ltd,” Peace said in a statement released on the club’s website. “I entered into an exclusivity arrangement in good faith after agreeing terms for the sale but it is now clear to me that this potential purchaser is unable to fulfil the terms of that agreement at this time.”

The offer from Fosun has only ever been a rumour, but given that we were for sale at the time they eventually acquired the other lot, it is not unreasonable to assume that they made an enquiry. However, there is no evidence to support either this, or the reported figure they may or may not have offered.
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« Reply #7453 on: November 22, 2021, 10:00:26 AM »
I'm not suggesting anything, just pointing out the differences in valuations.

Both from Chinese businesses, one from a huge corporation, the other from an ambitious medium sized businessman.

Sorry, I’m with you  :D

Thought that you were having a pop at him for not taking £40m when he knew he could have got £180-200m

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« Reply #7454 on: November 22, 2021, 11:26:53 AM »
This is what was reported in June 2015;

However, I understand Peace is still immersed in dialogue with a number of foreign investors from China, America and the Far East to hand over his 88 per cent stake in Albion.

Peace had set a bargaining price of around £150 million for his shares and I understand he believes a deal can be finalised before Albion’s players report back for duty on June 29 before flying to Austria for a training camp.


So it is clear that other parties were interested and Peace did enter into an exclusivity arrangement with an interested party which he then terminated in July 2015. Part of his statement is as follows;

 â€œI have today brought to a close the period of exclusivity announced on July 3 and suspended negotiations with the interested party involved over the sale of West Bromwich Albion Holdings Ltd,” Peace said in a statement released on the club’s website. “I entered into an exclusivity arrangement in good faith after agreeing terms for the sale but it is now clear to me that this potential purchaser is unable to fulfil the terms of that agreement at this time.”

The offer from Fosun has only ever been a rumour, but given that we were for sale at the time they eventually acquired the other lot, it is not unreasonable to assume that they made an enquiry. However, there is no evidence to support either this, or the reported figure they may or may not have offered.

That's interesting skyclad, it's the first time I've seen any evidence of the figure that JP was looking for.

Where were those quotes from please?
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« Reply #7455 on: November 22, 2021, 11:29:42 AM »
That's interesting skyclad, it's the first time I've seen any evidence of the figure that JP was looking for.

Where were those quotes from please?

There you go John

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-bromwich-albion-latest-potential-9388616

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/24/west-brom-buyer-talks-suspended
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« Reply #7457 on: November 23, 2021, 09:56:06 PM »
Hopefully tonight is the start of direct action.

We need to amplify this in front of his puppet Ken on Friday night and harass him so he knows.

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« Reply #7458 on: November 23, 2021, 10:00:03 PM »
Think it's all too little, too late. The rot is truly set in.

Nice to finally hear something against him though.

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« Reply #7459 on: November 23, 2021, 10:00:47 PM »
He won’t even know we’re playing.

They want out themselves - there just doesn’t appear to be a buyer.
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« Reply #7460 on: November 23, 2021, 10:06:03 PM »
He won’t even know we’re playing.

They want out themselves - there just doesn’t appear to be a buyer.

Not for the price the owners are asking.

It took Peace a while to find these numpties and that was when the Albion were a more attractive prospect.
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« Reply #7461 on: November 23, 2021, 10:07:09 PM »
He won’t even know we’re playing.

They want out themselves - there just doesn’t appear to be a buyer.

His mate Ken is at the games, make his ears ring and it’ll get back.

Make them lose face, that’ll hurt.

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« Reply #7462 on: November 23, 2021, 10:07:42 PM »
Not for the price the owners are asking.

It took Peace a while to find these numpties and that was when the Albion were a more attractive prospect.

Every day they’re here it’s worth less.
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« Reply #7463 on: November 23, 2021, 10:11:38 PM »
He pretty obviously wants out and has done for a while. There’s no buyers though, anyone who would be interested wouldn’t pay anywhere near what he wants and the vast majority of them would be the same or worse options than Lai. We’re pretty much stuck.

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« Reply #7464 on: November 23, 2021, 10:14:46 PM »
Every day they’re here it’s worth less.

It’s the one thing I’ll give the Dingles credit for: when they want an owner out…boy oh boy do they turn hostile.

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« Reply #7465 on: November 23, 2021, 10:14:54 PM »
If I had paid £200m for a football club then I wouldn’t be accepting a cut down price because some folk are chanting about the board.

He’s going nowhere until someone coughs up a substantial portion of what he’s paid.

It’s rubbish. But that’s where we are.
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« Reply #7466 on: November 23, 2021, 10:32:05 PM »
If I had paid £200m for a football club then I wouldn’t be accepting a cut down price because some folk are chanting about the board.

He’s going nowhere until someone coughs up a substantial portion of what he’s paid.

It’s rubbish. But that’s where we are.

Or you cut your losses, because he sure ain’t got the money to build it to be worth anywhere near that

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« Reply #7467 on: November 24, 2021, 05:59:20 AM »
I wonder what he thinks, or if he thinks, or if he is remotely interested

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« Reply #7468 on: November 24, 2021, 07:09:58 AM »
we will see his intentions come February
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« Reply #7469 on: November 24, 2021, 09:17:54 AM »
we will see his intentions come February

We already know what they are.
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« Reply #7470 on: November 24, 2021, 09:29:48 AM »
We already know what they are.

I genuinely don't reckon he knows there is a transfer window.

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« Reply #7471 on: November 24, 2021, 09:50:44 AM »
We already know what they are.

Sell Johnstone. Pocket money. Loan other teams rubbish.

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« Reply #7472 on: November 24, 2021, 02:37:13 PM »
I'd really love to know why Mark Jenkins retired.
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« Reply #7473 on: November 24, 2021, 03:29:28 PM »
If we are bemoaning the loss of Mark Jenkins we have hit bottom

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« Reply #7474 on: November 24, 2021, 03:37:48 PM »
I'd really love to know why Mark Jenkins retired.

I think he saw this coming John
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