[Political Cake]

Australia & New Zealand have closed up completely except for nationals and permanent residents.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-19/coronavirus-non-resident-travel-ban-australia/12071640
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/03/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-announces-total-new-zealand-border-closure.html

[kirk]

I didn't say they've done it to protect the kids. They've done it to reduce the spread of infection.  It's why all the other countries have done the same.

I raised the same point several days ago, that if we were flattening the curve (which is a vital idea), then we could (and probably should) have taken these measure earlier. I was told we couldn't shut the schools because who would look after the children, etc.  Then we shut the schools.

It is not about knowing more than Witty, I don't, but you look at all the evidence available.  The WHO gave different advice, a lot of other scientists raised concerns, other countries took advice from their own scientists.  Does Witty know more than them? Would you bet lives on that?

It is clear the UK took a different approach earlier on and we've wasted a lot of time. The articles and reports are easily searchable if you're interested.  Look into why we have changed tack recently, here's a clue, the science has NOT changed, the lessons from China and Italy were always there.  We took our lessons from a different source.

And where do these children go? Grand parents the very people who this virus kills or do they take them to work with them? The supermarket can spread infection should we shut them to?

[LiamTheBaggie]

Be brutal as you like - am I being irresponsible by going to the gym still. It’s the only thing I’m doing, work-gym-home

Yes

I am not sure what some people find so difficult about social distancing and not using pubs and restaurants

Some of these ignoring the advice will be the first to moan when our death toll rises rapidly

Not a pop at you, but more a general rant

[boinging_along]

And where do these children go? Grand parents the very people who this virus kills or do they take them to work with them? The supermarket can spread infection should we shut them to?

Well, from Monday we will find out I guess. I would imagine we are approaching a total shutdown where possible.  You've just got to look at other countries, they aren't doing this stuff for fun.

[boinging_along]

Yes

I am not sure what some people find so difficult about social distancing and not using pubs and restaurants

Some of these ignoring the advice will be the first to moan when our death toll rises rapidly

Not a pop at you, but more a general rant

Yeah, it's a couple of things.  One is to reduce the risk of catching it.  Another to reduce the risk of spreading it.  If we all do what we can to do those we can give our health service the time it needs to stay on top of this and reduce the number of deaths.  Even recovering from this can leave you with long term lung damage so it's vital we do what we can.

[LiamTheBaggie]

Yeah, it's a couple of things.  One is to reduce the risk of catching it.  Another to reduce the risk of spreading it.  If we all do what we can to do those we can give our health service the time it needs to stay on top of this and reduce the number of deaths.  Even recovering from this can leave you with long term lung damage so it's vital we do what we can.

I’m with you. Some of the attitudes to this are staggering. Almost an arrogance.

[SmethDan]

I luckily invested in some Olympic weights a cage with dipping bars and pull up bar , a hex bar and numerous dumbbells, I'm still going gym a the moment but will reassess next week . Btw we don't have a  dining room anymore.

Rowing machine, bench, dumbbells, kettlebells and parallettes.

And a punch bag for when feeling so inclined    .

[liverbaggie]

I don't get it,I say close pubs ,restaurants,cinemas etc etc.
Because if these type of places are open some people will go to them.
Too many pubs anyway

[The Tank]

I luckily invested in some Olympic weights a cage with dipping bars and pull up bar , a hex bar and numerous dumbbells, I'm still going gym a the moment but will reassess next week . Btw we don't have a  dining room anymore.

Don't have a dining room anymore ?   You won't have enough time in the day to eat after all that time working out!  Probably have mirrors all around the house though

[gerry m]

Took my sister to Maidstone hospital which is about a 40 minute drive from my place for a steroid injection in her back. Got there dropped her off and came home. No sooner had i got in the door i got a message saying the procedure had been cancelled. They tried telling my sister that they had attempted to contact her but she told them she had received no messages. Then tried telling her that the steroid injection could cause Coronavirus. They were told very quickly that she has been in the NHS for well over 30 years and they were forced to apologise. She was not the only person there either. Wonder whether they were fobbed off with similar lies!

[kc56wba]

Rowing machine, bench, dumbbells, kettlebells and parallettes.

And a punch bag for when feeling so inclined    .

Going upstairs to the loo instead of using the downstairs one.  A few exercises with a Big Exercise Ball and of course lifting my beer glass to my mouth. 

[SmethDan]

Going upstairs to the loo instead of using the downstairs one.  A few exercises with a Big Exercise Ball and of course lifting my beer glass to my mouth. 

Upstairs AND a downstairs bog? No wonder you live over Worcester way. Yow'm too posh for Tipton now  .

[kc56wba]

Upstairs AND a downstairs bog? No wonder you live over Worcester way. Yow'm too posh for Tipton now  .

Yow con tek the mon out of Tipton but yow cor tek Tipton out of the mon.

[AlbionFan]

The Bank of England has just cut interest rates from 0.25% to 0.1% to shore up the economy and is good news for those with mortgages

[mank baggie]

Don't have a dining room anymore ?   You won't have enough time in the day to eat after all that time working out!  Probably have mirrors all around the house though

Haha eat on my lap in front of the telly and no , no more mirrors than a normal house, it's more about dealing with mental health issues than vanity at my age .

[mank baggie]

Upstairs AND a downstairs bog? No wonder you live over Worcester way. Yow'm too posh for Tipton now  .

I use a **** bucket

[liverbaggie]

You mean you've got a bucket!
I'm so poor I have to urine myself

[Hull Baggie]

I use a **** bucket

You mean you've got a bucket!
I'm so poor I have to **** myself

this is beginning to sound like Monty Python.

[alex1]

In Germany where they have more infections than in the UK, Merkel has given last warning to stop unnecessary socialising. Otherwise it will be a lockdown there.
Our Government are trying to hold off with extreme closures or complete lockdowns. They are saying London will not be sealed off under any circumstances. They are obviously hoping the self restraint appeals will be taken seriously. Whatever happens, essential services and workers in key sectors have got to be kept up and running.
I've now restricted myself to supermarket, launderette, bank and allowing the plumber in.

[AlbionFan]

COVID-19 CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK

Last updated: March 19, 2020, 17:41 GMT

Coronavirus Cases: 236,886
Deaths: 9,828
Recovered: 86,676

UK
Total Cases: 2,692
New Cases: 66
Total Deaths: 137
New Deaths: 33
Total Recovered: 65

[AlbionFan]

On a very sad note today, Italy's death toll has surpassed China's

[gazberg]

Wonder why it's so disproportionately high there. There population is nothing compared to China.

[LiamTheBaggie]

Second oldest population in the world?

Their infrastructure has now fallen apart and surely contributing to their number of deaths

[gazberg]

Fair enough, had no idea of the demographics. I'm guessing Japan is the oldest? That's the only country i heard of with an aging/declining population.

[alex1]

Wonder why it's so disproportionately high there. There population is nothing compared to China.

Maybe something to do with China being a dictatorship. People fall into line more in such a system.