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Re: Alan Pardew
« Reply #650 on: January 02, 2018, 10:28:20 PM »
The big risk that has failed this transfer window has been JRod. But 15M for a striker is a punt and it's burned a lot of teams (Andre Gray at Watford, Saido at Stoke, Javier Hernandez at WH, Iheanacho at LC).

All of whom are better and would offer more than the championship rubbish that we have.
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« Reply #651 on: January 02, 2018, 10:29:43 PM »
Never been a fan of Pardew but to want him out already is embarrassing, this window we have to let Evans go (for the right money) and get Greg out to free up the wages and to allow Pardew to get fresh faces in plus a striker who can either link up with Rondon or replace him but will score more goals.

Time to judge Pardew is this time next year when he's had the Summer window as well which hopefully will see a few squad players moving on and more wages saved to bring in more freshness.

The players have a part to play in where we are, Pulis has a big part to play as the football was absolute guff but the blokes on the pitch need to look at themselves in the mirror and ask themselves are they putting it in where it counts.

Hammond and the recruitment department also take a big share as this squad is lacking in certain areas and the signing of Robson-Kanu based on one goal in the Euros was laughable for example.

The blame is collective, not just one person.
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« Reply #652 on: January 02, 2018, 10:29:48 PM »
Pardew was a poor, unambitious, and very risky appointment. By contrast, see what Roy Hodgson has achieved at Palace - terrible start to the season before he came, squad confidence shattered, players looking awful, and look how he has them playing. THAT is what a good manager can do. The buck stops with Pardew, and 4 points from his first 8 games is awful. He was famous at Newcastle for his continual embarrassing excuses, never his fault, and is starting to sound exactly like that .
But even if we had Roy back we would still be asking the same players to finish their chances,we are p1$$ poor up top sadly
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« Reply #653 on: January 02, 2018, 10:30:24 PM »
All of whom are better and would offer more than the championship rubbish that we have.


Agreed aside from Saido I'd love any of them playing off Rondon.
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« Reply #654 on: January 02, 2018, 10:31:08 PM »
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Pardew was a poor, unambitious, and very risky appointment. By contrast, see what Roy Hodgson has achieved at Palace - terrible start to the season before he came, squad confidence shattered, players looking awful, and look how he has them playing. THAT is what a good manager can do. The buck stops with Pardew, and 4 points from his first 8 games is awful. He was famous at Newcastle for his continual embarrassing excuses, never his fault, and is starting to sound exactly like that .


Pardew was available though wasn’t he? Can’t imagine a single fan wouldn’t have preferred Hodgson. Plus let’s be honest Palace have firepower we simply don’t have.



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« Reply #655 on: January 02, 2018, 10:31:38 PM »
But even if we had Roy back uoud still be asking the same players to finish their chances,we are p1$$ poor up top sadly


Hodgson would have us on about 30 points by now. With these players.
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« Reply #656 on: January 02, 2018, 10:32:29 PM »
Pards putting the blame on 2 games in 3 days..

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« Reply #657 on: January 02, 2018, 10:33:13 PM »
Never been a fan of Pardew but to want him out already is embarrassing, this window we have to let Evans go (for the right money) and get Greg out to free up the wages and to allow Pardew to get fresh faces in plus a striker who can either link up with Rondon or replace him but will score more goals.

Time to judge Pardew is this time next year when he's had the Summer window as well which hopefully will see a few squad players moving on and more wages saved to bring in more freshness.

The players have a part to play in where we are, Pulis has a big part to play as the football was absolute guff but the blokes on the pitch need to look at themselves in the mirror and ask themselves are they putting it in where it counts.

Hammond and the recruitment department also take a big share as this squad is lacking in certain areas and the signing of Robson-Kanu based on one goal in the Euros was laughable for example.

The blame is collective, not just one person.

Spot on with the recruitment comment. Who on earth are the scouts for us? Absolute waste of space. I haven't heard of a number of our signings over the past few years. Makes me wonder if the scouts had.

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« Reply #658 on: January 02, 2018, 10:34:02 PM »
Pards putting the blame on 2 games in 3 days..

Always was and always will be the easy excuse.

2 games in 3 days does not disguise we are rubbish and have not been able to win a game in 20 odd matches.

What was the excuse at Stoke? Swansea?
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« Reply #659 on: January 02, 2018, 10:34:34 PM »
Alan Pardew's Premier League record since 1st Jan 2016: Played: 44; Won: 6; Drawn: 12; Lost: 26
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« Reply #660 on: January 02, 2018, 10:35:20 PM »
Always was and always will be the easy excuse.

2 games in 3 days does not disguise we are rubbish and have not been able to win a game in 20 odd matches.

What was the excuse at Stoke? Swansea?

Its a poor excuse when Palace and Man City both played Sunday and tonight and both won as well.
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« Reply #661 on: January 02, 2018, 10:36:02 PM »

Hodgson would have us on about 30 points by now. With these players.
So they would have miraculously not missed all their chances? Loffin

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« Reply #662 on: January 02, 2018, 10:39:15 PM »
Some say Pardew was the best of a bad bunch. Christ, hate to think what the bad bunch would do with this team.
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« Reply #663 on: January 02, 2018, 10:40:44 PM »
Pardew was a poor, unambitious, and very risky appointment. By contrast, see what Roy Hodgson has achieved at Palace - terrible start to the season before he came, squad confidence shattered, players looking awful, and look how he has them playing. THAT is what a good manager can do. The buck stops with Pardew, and 4 points from his first 8 games is awful. He was famous at Newcastle for his continual embarrassing excuses, never his fault, and is starting to sound exactly like that .
I would add that it was a lazy and simple appointment for those involved in the process,a bit like our player recruitment.The clubs rife with people who just want to stroll along and not willing to push the club to the next level and with that attitude they've taken us backwards.

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« Reply #664 on: January 02, 2018, 10:41:32 PM »
You cant blame the manager for players not being able to score easy chances. We are definitely creating more chances but just not taking them. The manager isnt to blame for poor finishing form players who are supposed to be proffesionals not being able to do the basics right, like tap the ball over the line from 6 yards out !!!
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« Reply #665 on: January 02, 2018, 10:41:41 PM »

Hodgson would have us on about 30 points by now. With these players.
Perfectly reasonable statement. He has Palace on 22, starting from a position of 0 points from 7 games when he arrived. We had 9 points at that stage.
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« Reply #666 on: January 02, 2018, 10:45:35 PM »
You cant blame the manager for players not being able to score easy chances. We are definitely creating more chances but just not taking them. The manager isnt to blame for poor finishing form players who are supposed to be proffesionals not being able to do the basics right, like tap the ball over the line from 6 yards out !!!
Is that not EXACTLY what the manager should be blamed for? Otherwise, what's the point of a manager? He picks them, he coaches them. He's had a good few matches to work his magic.

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« Reply #667 on: January 02, 2018, 10:49:59 PM »
Is that not EXACTLY what the manager should be blamed for? Otherwise, what's the point of a manager? He picks them, he coaches them. He's had a good few matches to work his magic.
I'll defend him on that , Rondon doesn't score enough while HRK isnt up to it. JR looks like a 14m flop.
Lets see if he signs a forward.
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« Reply #668 on: January 02, 2018, 10:57:40 PM »
Perfectly reasonable statement. He has Palace on 22, starting from a position of 0 points when he arrived.
If Pardew had Zaha, Benteke and Puncheon at his disposal, I think we'd have scored a few more goals.
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« Reply #669 on: January 02, 2018, 10:59:03 PM »
If Pardew had Zaha, Benteke and Puncheon at his disposal, I think we'd have scored a few more goals.

Benteke has exactly 1 goal in the PL.

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« Reply #670 on: January 02, 2018, 11:00:11 PM »
Its a poor excuse when Palace and Man City both played Sunday and tonight and both won as well.
their opponents had played since Boxing day though !!
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« Reply #671 on: January 02, 2018, 11:01:39 PM »
Benteke has exactly 1 goal in the PL.
So you think there's nothing to choose between Palace's and our strikers?
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« Reply #672 on: January 02, 2018, 11:02:58 PM »
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Hodgson would have us on about 30 points by now. With these players.
he'd have to have bought Zaha and a couple of others with him !!!
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« Reply #673 on: January 02, 2018, 11:04:28 PM »
So you think there's nothing to choose between Palace's and our strikers?

Well I don't think Crystal Palace fans will think Benteke has had a big impact on the season. Rondon has scored 3 at least this season.

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« Reply #674 on: January 02, 2018, 11:05:02 PM »
their opponents had played since Boxing day though !!

Palace made 2 changes from the starting XI plus 1 who came on after 20 minutes, came from behind to win tonight. West Ham play Thursday so do Spurs, all clubs have to play games in a short space of time.
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