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After Match Debate
« on: February 26, 2025, 05:42:26 PM »
Norwich City v Albion

Saturday 29th March 2025 15.00pm

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2025, 04:59:21 PM »
That's the season over.

Norwich were awful and they still managed to beat us. We just aren't good enough.

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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2025, 05:00:49 PM »
That's the season over.

Norwich were awful and they still managed to beat us. We just aren't good enough.

Absolutely. How they won that beggars belief.
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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2025, 05:01:38 PM »
The game was there for the taking. We just weren’t brave enough to score. We fell apart in the last ten minutes for me.

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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2025, 05:01:43 PM »
We just don’t want it enough  :o

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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2025, 05:02:57 PM »
Absolutely. How they won that beggars belief.

First win in 5 at home. That’s how rubbish we are.

Boro now level on points with us. We are just devoid of ideas.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2025, 05:03:12 PM »
Swift lost that for us…..   Gunn won it for them
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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2025, 05:04:06 PM »
Can't defend that.

Mowbray was poor. No changes till the 78th minute is ridiculous. They needed killing off, not escorted over the finishing line, can always come back to bite you and it did.


Saying that can't factor in a performance like that from Swift. Atrocious. Shocking he remained on to set them up. Norwich MVP.

If we can't find a way for AA and the game plan to help each other then just leave him out. The amount of high balls pumped into him was maddening.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2025, 05:04:11 PM »
Sheff Wed 1pt, Oxford 2pts, Swansea 2pts, Plymouth 1pt, Norwich 1pt.

Chucking away points in the last mins of away games against dross will cost us.

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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2025, 05:04:13 PM »
The subs seemed to kill us - perhaps too many in a short space of time (and the wrong ones).

Not that we were particularly threatening beforehand.

I thought Holgate might be a better option at right back than Furlong but he was awful today. Double error on the goal and awful passing/crossing when going forward

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2025, 05:04:19 PM »
I think we'll comfortably drop out of the playoffs from here.

We're incapable of winning football matches, have been all season and there's been zero signs of that changing under the current manager. It's nothing football in possession, yet we've lost the defensive resilience we had under the last manager. I've lost count of the amount of dreadful sides we've come up against and failed to beat.

We've won one more game than Portsmouth this season. One...

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2025, 05:04:31 PM »
I didn't think Norwich were that good today, doesn't say much for us, does it.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2025, 05:05:35 PM »
Can't wait for the BS from Mowbray on how ell we did and how soft our feet are. Utter disgrace of a show today and Swuft and Diangana. Don't bother turning up to work next week.  What is the point of Fellows making runs and nobody passing to him. If you are not going to pass to him then put someone else on the pitch.  But hey don;t worry Wallace will be back soon...

Another one that seems to keep being picked by all of our previous managers.

What the hell is going on with our team.

You do not deserve to make the plays offs or go up, if you are going to play like that.

Another load of BS team picking by Mowbray and leaving the subs til way past 70 mins.

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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2025, 05:06:42 PM »
We bottled that.  After that first half we should have really gone for it.  Instead it looked like we were playing for a draw.

Swift, Molumby and Mowatt just aren't good enough in the middle.  In that first half we had huge amounts of possession and created nothing.  If anything was going to be created it was going to be through Grant and Styles on the left.  Rest of the pitch is toothless.

No idea why we left it so late to make changes.  Don't mind Grady coming on as we weren't going to create something by passing it sideways and he is one of the few players who will go past someone centrally.

Too cowardly a game from us there.  Swift was poor, Bartley was (once again) really poor.    We don't have anyone with any creativity in the middle so any time they come up against someone, they'll just play it sideways or backwards - nothing we do causes any problems for the opposition, we're too easy to defend against.

-- no idea why Grady is getting flack, he was on the pitch for 10 minutes and was one of the few midfielders looking for ball.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2025, 05:07:22 PM »
Swift lost that for us…..   Gunn won it for them

The manager lost that for us. No subs until what was it, the 75th minute? We were screaming out for something different and he just didn't do it. The amount of sideways passing in that game was incredible, the front 3 constantly ignored when trying to break the line.

We were promised the handbrake was going to come off, anyone got any idea on when this might happen?
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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2025, 05:07:30 PM »
Worst I’ve seen us for a while, opposition were terrible.

Not sure where we go from here but I wouldn’t want to see this side in the prem. make Southampton look like prime Brazil.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2025, 05:09:56 PM »
Didn't Mowbray say it'll be entertaining? Miss Marples on at 3.10 Saturday afternoon's maybe he meant that. You could rebuild the Great wall of China quicker than we get from the half way line to the opposition's box. It's like pre season friendly pace with zero urgency to win the game.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2025, 05:10:07 PM »
We must have better more committed players than Diagana and Swift, last few months of their contracts and neither are playing to get a new one. just don't play them again give others a chance

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2025, 05:10:42 PM »
Also a side note for Mowbray. How someone can manage the number of games he has in this division and not recognise the need for legs in midfield is probably the most important thing to have in a team, mind-blowing.

If he persists with the Mowatt-Swift axis then he's not the man to take this club forward.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2025, 05:10:51 PM »
Tony Mowbray’s a lovely bloke and all that. He’s done OK as a Championship manager over the years, but to be honest he’s rarely pulled up any trees. He won promotion once, with us, almost 20 years ago and otherwise it’s just a League One promotion from 900 games as a manager.

I can’t at the moment see any progress at all since he arrived. 16 points from 12 games is about as mid-table as it gets, and quite a long way behind the last manager’s 35pts from the opening 22.

That was a poor result today against a Norwich team there for the taking. But we weren’t good enough, and then gifted them a winner thanks to an awful ball by Swift.

Very, very disappointing.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2025, 05:13:02 PM »
I said it in the match.. Too much sideways and backpassing from us. Allowed them to funnel back and stifle anything we had.  Swift again was dire, he needed taking off before the half time.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2025, 05:15:05 PM »
Absolutely gutted. I always thought the current manager's teams played with attacking gusto. We were pedestrian at the best. Understand why Price did not play, but having watched the Sheff Utd game last night, who played with speed and purpose, the current manager has an awful lot to do. For once a team were there for the taking, but the late subs were criminal. During the game we never gave Armstrong any service at all. Time to separate Mowatt / Mulumby partnership. too slow. Can't keep trying to stonewall games.


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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2025, 05:17:17 PM »
Completely on mowbury still far from convinced on his appointment
The continued selection of swift and mowatt with molumby just doesn’t work
No pace, no creativity
Diakite plays well then bombed out again
Why play wingers with Armstrong on his own we can all see it’s not working
Play Diakite and molumby that will enable us to play 2 up top or maybe Grant off someone
I think we will ultimately miss out on the playoffs now after all Carlos hard work has gone to waste
Hats off to Diangana who looked totally disinterested and is waiting to waltz off into the sunset
But we will hear how we had control of the game with mowatt and swift going sideways and backwards continually
Looking like a mistake bringing Mogga back he doesn’t suit our current squad

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2025, 05:17:41 PM »
We bottled that.  After that first half we should have really gone for it.  Instead it looked like we were playing for a draw.

Swift, Molumby and Mowatt just aren't good enough in the middle.  In that first half we had huge amounts of possession and created nothing.  If anything was going to be created it was going to be through Grant and Styles on the left.  Rest of the pitch is toothless.

No idea why we left it so late to make changes.  Don't mind Grady coming on as we weren't going to create something by passing it sideways and he is one of the few players who will go past someone centrally.

Too cowardly a game from us there.  Swift was poor, Bartley was (once again) really poor.    We don't have anyone with any creativity in the middle so any time they come up against someone, they'll just play it sideways or backwards - nothing we do causes any problems for the opposition, we're too easy to defend against.

-- no idea why Grady is getting flack, he was on the pitch for 10 minutes and was one of the few midfielders looking for ball.
I haven’t seen the game today
But as a generalisation on this season mulumby cannot be held accountable when he is played with 2 players absolutely devoid of any energy and /or pace.
Mowatt plays the game at walking pace and gives off the air that he thinks he’s some sort of Tony kroos…Swift is technically good but has been getting slower since the injury that halted his purple spell last season,so much so he’s now playing in reverse
I should imagine playing with  (covering for) these pair is extremely draining and frustrating ..

I keep saying it…WE NEED 352 and Diakite AND molumby must start together.

Anyway,it would appear that despite injuries and many opportunities to play the two of them,Tony has decided that Swift,Diangana and no doubt “good ol Jed” when fit are much more important in the set up in our quest for 10th place.
It’s weird,it’s not like we even have to be amazing to beat some of these teams !!!
It is so frustrating and whilst I really wanted the current manager to work out and am usually pretty glass half full…I don’t see how (barring a complete change of tack) we get in the playoffs now…
Armstrong is not a loan striker
Lankshear is a fantastic talent not being used
Johnstone and fellows are so in/out they are about to do the Oakey Cokey
Diangana is a disgrace and has been for some time
Swift is finished at this level
Mowatt is slower than a slow thing going slow during a slow race
Mowbray…I am concerned thinks he has fully recovered but is not physically and mentally focused enough to make the correct decisions .

If youre going to get told off, get told off for doing something not for doing nothing..

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2025, 05:17:56 PM »
I said it in the match.. Too much sideways and backpassing from us. Allowed them to funnel back and stifle anything we had.  Swift again was dire, he needed taking off before the half time.

The pass from Swift at the end was awful, however, he was no worse than any other player over the 90 minutes.

The longer the game went on the more we surrendered possession.
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