[BalisPen]

I'd play Maja as cf and AA on the left and Tom on the right and Price in the 10 and Johnston on the bench.

[KingKoren]

Not impressed with him. Hopefully Maja will be back soon and he will drop to the bench.

[LiamTheBaggie]

He should be burying that chance really. That’s what he’s here for.

[beechyboy90]

He should be burying that chance really. That’s what he’s here for.

Yes and other than that he was a passenger. V Hull I would start lankshear or dike and see if that gives him a shot in the arm. Presuming we have Fellows and Johnston back slinging crosses in we really need a presence in there and that ain't Armstrong

[gazberg]

Don't think he suits what we are asking him to do. Agree his shot tonight was poor.

[tlms-p23]

Yes and other than that he was a passenger. V Hull I would start lankshear or dike and see if that gives him a shot in the arm. Presuming we have Fellows and Johnston back slinging crosses in we really need a presence in there and that ain't Armstrong

Agreed. Lankshear for me.

[BalisPen]

The whole point of us paying the big loan fee and wages was that he buried the chances like the one tonight and against Leeds, as he doesn't do anything else.

Also, I can't believe how often he is miles offside.

His whole game just seems to be off at the moment.

[boingboing1989]

The whole point of us paying the big loan fee and wages was that he buried the chances like the one tonight and against Leeds, as he doesn't do anything else.

Also, I can't believe how often he is miles offside.

His whole game just seems to be off at the moment.

Agree with this, said it last week against Leeds chance was extremely similiar. Has to score, can forgive everything else if he's clinical with the only chance he gets.

I miss Maja.

[SmethDan]

Should have put his chance away but without his pressing last night we don't get that performance. Could anyone else do that? Clearly. Do we need more from him? Yes we do. However, I disagree with the notion he adds nothing.

[zippyandbungle]

The whole point of us paying the big loan fee and wages was that he buried the chances like the one tonight and against Leeds, as he doesn't do anything else.

Also, I can't believe how often he is miles offside.

His whole game just seems to be off at the moment.

2 games,4 points ,3 of which were due to his penalty
Now I’m not saying that others wouldn’t put it away,but in there 2 most recent games he’s more prolific than Darwin Nunez and Curtis jones 😀

If he “appears” to offer little but gets 6 more goals in the run in,it will be all that counts,that said I really like Lankshear and would certainly be considering him starting ASWELL against Hull.

[Hull Baggie]

Agree with this, said it last week against Leeds chance was extremely similiar. Has to score, can forgive everything else if he's clinical with the only chance he gets.

I miss Maja.

This is the problem though. If he was clinical with the only chance he gets he'd still be playing in the Premier league at a better club than Southampton.

Yes he could have done better with the chances he's had recently but his general game play is good; he closes down, he makes good runs into space which are often ignored for yet another sideways pass.
He needs to time his runs better to avoid being offside.

We need to start playing more to his strengths (balls into the channels for him to run on to or play him  behind Lankshear to collect knockdowns) rather than lumping the ball into the box and expecting him to out jump a 6'4" defender.
I'd be more concerned if he wasn't getting into the positions to miss at all.

If the wrongly disallowed goal against Blackburn had stood he'd be on an average of 1 goal every 2.3 games which is where his scoring levels are over his career.

[NJS]

OK,  so the guy (1) presses and (2) has scored a penalty

(1) It's possible to get a CF who presses well far more cheaply
(2) Grant and Swift can take penalties (so really should  most decent forwards)

[zippyandbungle]

OK,  so the guy (1) presses and (2) has scored a penalty

(1) It's possible to get a CF who presses well far more cheaply
(2) Grant and Swift can take penalties (so really should  most decent forwards)

There is no way either of those players convert that chance Armstrong did against Sheff Weds ..

[NJS]

I think that they both would have got the two he missed.  Is this another BTA who score the difficult chances and miss the sitters?  Does the rest  of the team have to somehow contrive to give him awkward chances ?

[Hull Baggie]

OK,  so the guy (1) presses and (2) has scored a penalty

(1) It's possible to get a CF who presses well far more cheaply
(2) Grant and Swift can take penalties (so really should  most decent forwards)

Still doesn't alter the fact that we aren't playing to his strengths or creating many chances for him in games.
As I said before if he was clinically taking the chances we have created, which some are suggesting he should have, then he would still be in the Premier League not on loan at in the Championship.

[KYA]

I don't see enough of the team to make sweeping comments ,regarding Armstrong I will say the goal he scored on his debut, no one else at the club would have scored.
Some players settle quickly others never seem to,  it's just one of those things that you can't foresee when you sign a player.

[KYA]

I think that they both would have got the two he missed.  Is this another BTA who score the difficult chances and miss the sitters?  Does the rest  of the team have to somehow contrive to give him awkward chances ?

His goal record speaks for itself he's not a BTA.

[SmethDan]

OK,  so the guy (1) presses and (2) has scored a penalty

(1) It's possible to get a CF who presses well far more cheaply
(2) Grant and Swift can take penalties (so really should  most decent forwards)

Yes he can. But it's quite apparent someone doesn't know his conversion rate from the spot across his first team career; or during his time with West Bromwich Albion in particular    .

[alex1]

Still doesn't alter the fact that we aren't playing to his strengths or creating many chances for him in games.
As I said before if he was clinically taking the chances we have created, which some are suggesting he should have, then he would still be in the Premier League not on loan at in the Championship.

He is the type of striker who has the instinct to find the pockets of space in and around the penalty box (which players like Grant don't have). He needs players who can deliver short passes into him, rather than long high crosses. Think he will come good if he gets the right service, as his track record in front of goal is pretty good.

[Standaman]

Armstrong lives and dies by the goal tally because he does not contribute a whole lot else. The narrative here is that he guarantees goals at championship level. Well that has been built on a few stellar seasons one at Southampton and 2 at Blackburn. Everything else has been fairly modest and it took him 2 or 3 stabs at the Championship before he had a break out season.

His Premier League career is a complete wash which is not entirely a surprise given how poor Southampton have been in those two seasons and players like Armstrong really suffer on relatively poor teams. 

His overall goal contribution has been padded by penalties throughout his career and looking at None Penalty Goals he is hovering at BTA levels with us (no that isn't terrible but it ain't anything to pay big money for).

At this point I am not saying he is a poor signing but equally particularly in the round he should be far from assured a starting place and as when Maja returns it is very much up for debate.

[luke.jones1234]

I think that they both would have got the two he missed.  Is this another BTA who score the difficult chances and miss the sitters?  Does the rest  of the team have to somehow contrive to give him awkward chances ?

I hope your not in anyway comparing Armstrong to BTa?

[MarkW]

The stats are very interesting on this, and they both absolve Armstrong of some blame, but also perhaps cut through the notion of him being an outstanding Championship striker

So, he has scored 79 Championship goals across 190.4 games, which is 0.41 goals per 90, which is very good.

But this season, he's only got 2 from 6, which is 0.33 G/90.

Looking at his main goalscoring seasons at Southampton and Blackburn though, he actually underperformed his xG numbers, possibly indicating he isn't as clinical as one might think.

But the main thing of relevance to us I think is a look at his shooting stats. In basic terms, he is taking fewer shots per 90 for us than his previous Championship average 2.67 shots per 90 for us Vs an average of 2.87, with him taking 3.37 for Southampton last year.

He also has a lower goal per shot ratio - 0.12 goals per shot normally, but only 0.06 for us. 

So he's taking fewer shots and not converting them as well as normal for us so far. Not ideal

[SmethDan]

Are you suggesting we've taken a not outstanding Championship goalscorer on loan and converted him to a none scoring forward? You didn't need an extensive stat search to tell us that. It's what we do  .

[The Black Pearl]

I don't think stats ever tell the full story and especially in this case.
His chances to score have been few which may mean he is singled out as a threat and marked accordingly, this then opens opportunities for others.
I expect him to score a few more as the season comes to conclusion.

[FallOutBoy]

I've said on Twitter, I don't think he works in this team. I don't think we have the set-up that works for him, or the players that create the type of chances he thrives on.

I had misgivings on deadline day, and I've seen nothing since to alleviate them.