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« Reply #500 on: April 03, 2025, 11:54:41 AM »
I think Heggem is better at getting in behind than Styles is. When Heggem recently played LB, he got in 3 or 4 really dangerous crosses.
Furlong is only useful if he's in tandem with a proper right winger. He has a decent partnership with Fellows. On his own, he can't create much going forward.

However in a 352,  the wide players should be covering the full length of the pitch, but they can't properly. Grant is good at getting back, but he usually fails to get past his opposing back. 
I come back to my original point, that we need a midfield that effectively supports Armstrong. That means not only setting him up with chances, but also getting on the score sheet. Players like Gera, Koren, Koumas and Morrison were regular scorers. From our current squad, Price is the only payer who could become as useful, Swift can on his day,  but there are no other regular scoring midfielders.
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« Reply #501 on: April 03, 2025, 12:27:21 PM »
Perhaps Bany could eh?

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« Reply #502 on: April 03, 2025, 12:35:51 PM »
Are we watching the same games?

I've seen Styles overlapping Grant and sometimes Johnston.  He overlaps Johnston less  - maybe because MJ usually moves further inside and tries to shoot.  Even Heggem has overlapped.

Furlong has overlapped Fellows. Holgate less so; He's more of a straight full back.

The problem with playing Fellows and Johnston in a 3-5-2 is that they are poor defenders and we are likely to give away more goals.  The Mowbray strategy of "scoring more than them" doesn't seem to be working so we do need Furlong and Styles in the 5. 

4-3-3  with midfielders sufficiently energetic to get into the opponents penalty area might work.
May I always add that the opposition coaches tweak the defence in order to nullify the overlap. Also the getting to the by-line by Fellows. However, they allow Johnston and Grant to get that far because the worst outcome is they concede a corner.
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« Reply #503 on: April 03, 2025, 03:40:46 PM »
We were promised outright attacking football with lots of goals ( for both sides).
 We ain't getting that, we have weakened our defensive capability and are not seeing any increase in attacking capability and do not seem to have a strategy to improve either except by playing the same crew over and over again hoping they will come good. Something has to change, and quickly or our play-off hopes will definitely slip away.

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« Reply #504 on: April 04, 2025, 08:18:13 AM »
'I love it when a plan comes together'. Time for the foot rubs and training ground tummy tickles to pay off. Over to you Mogga and COYB  8) .
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« Reply #505 on: April 05, 2025, 01:30:16 PM »
Sack him at HT had enough. No clean sheet, can't score. Swapping Palmer for Armstrong woeful decision and not dropping Wildsmith

Football is considerably worse than Bruce let alone Corberan

2 and half year contract to a championship dinosaur who has only 1 promotion from the championship

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« Reply #506 on: April 05, 2025, 01:34:16 PM »
Sack him at HT had enough. No clean sheet, can't score. Swapping Palmer for Armstrong woeful decision and not dropping Wildsmith

Football is considerably worse than Bruce let alone Corberan

2 and half year contract to a championship dinosaur who has only 1 promotion from the championship

You can blame him for things related to games but not for selling Palmer, that was out of his hands and the club basically had no choice.
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« Reply #507 on: April 05, 2025, 01:36:31 PM »
Wasn't his choice to sell Palmer and it's not as bad as Bruce but I wouldn't miss him if he goes end of season.

Everything I didn't like about Corberan he's pretty much continued with

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« Reply #508 on: April 05, 2025, 02:03:55 PM »
Time for a new manager end of season. This is not working at all and I don't see it getting any better.
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« Reply #509 on: April 05, 2025, 02:39:42 PM »
I said it from the start appoint a mid table manager finish mid table. I saw it from the Boro game

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« Reply #510 on: April 05, 2025, 02:43:50 PM »
Publicly came out and got behind Wildsmith, will Tony admit he was wrong or will his ego continue to force him to select Wildsmith? I know what my money is on.

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« Reply #511 on: April 05, 2025, 02:48:27 PM »
no obsession from me just like to point of when people come out with silly statements!which you seem to do more frequent! But hey ho everyone has an opinion !luckily the owners won’t be listening to you with your Mowbray out banner if we go up  ;D

Two points off the play off places now and headed toward mid table mediocrity…all still rosy in the garden?

We are awful under Mowbray, sadly, it’s Steve Bruce with a slightly prettier face.

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« Reply #512 on: April 05, 2025, 02:51:52 PM »
None of those players were finding another Albion man when in good positions. They were either waiting too long to shoot or shooting when it was a terrible idea. 30+ touches in the box, the opponents in single figures and not for the first game yet we lose. We should be having far more shots on target let alone scoring. There needs to be personnel changes on Tuesday and I’d say a change of shape and it all needs to be closer to what we finished with on the pitch today.

The form is dire, the decision making on the pitch poor and simply put it isn’t working.

It’s over to Mowbray now and if he persists then I suddenly will have some serious questions on whether he is the man for the rebuild.
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« Reply #513 on: April 05, 2025, 03:00:24 PM »
What is he coaching them in the week? No plan at all other than get it wide and hope for the best. He’s dismantled everything that was good about our first half of the season and somehow hasn’t improved us going forward.
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« Reply #514 on: April 05, 2025, 03:03:23 PM »
Bruce 2.0, needs to go at the end of the season.

I can't see us winning another game, we look absolutely clueless.

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« Reply #515 on: April 05, 2025, 03:09:15 PM »
Sack him at HT had enough. No clean sheet, can't score. Swapping Palmer for Armstrong woeful decision and not dropping Wildsmith

Football is considerably worse than Bruce let alone Corberan

2 and half year contract to a championship dinosaur who has only 1 promotion from the championship

You want the manager sacked at half time, 40 games into the season and he’s a “dinosaur”. Sounds like you’ve had a meltdown. Back in the real world, the manager’s job isn’t under threat. He’s only been in the door five minutes.

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« Reply #516 on: April 05, 2025, 03:36:47 PM »
You want the manager sacked at half time, 40 games into the season and he’s a “dinosaur”. Sounds like you’ve had a meltdown. Back in the real world, the manager’s job isn’t under threat. He’s only been in the door five minutes.

Knew the supporter of mediocrity would pipe up.

How did your backing of Bruce and Button turn out?

Clubs make mistakes appointing managers which only manifest themselves when they are in the job, act quickly to change things before the rot sets in long term.

Today was like the Colchester game from years ago when he just throws on all the forwards, and hopes for the best.

He has not got the money he had last time he was with us nor the talent on the pitch to win those Colchester type games now, and he doesn't know what to do.

This disastrous appointment is definitely Nestor's fault. Dithering and doddering until finally praying that the doctor's give Mogga a clean bill of health, and like I said when he was mooted as the first choice it had to be until the end of the season only or at worst 18 months, but giving him 2 and half years was shocking and I only hope that there is a break clause.

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« Reply #517 on: April 05, 2025, 03:40:04 PM »
I sometimes wonder whether any manager could get this present squad of players to really achieve an automatic promotion place or more realistically cement a playoff position. Are we suffering now because we don't have the Premiership parachute payments and therefore cannot find or attract much in the way of half decent players? On top of that, our academy is not producing very much at all and/or a continuous stream of managers have not been prepared to risk them.

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« Reply #518 on: April 05, 2025, 03:42:26 PM »
Two points off the play off places now and headed toward mid table mediocrity…all still rosy in the garden?

We are awful under Mowbray, sadly, it’s Steve Bruce with a slightly prettier face.
Here he is!the obsessive one!nowhere near as bad as Bruce !if you remember we were bottom !he ain’t going nowhere so just get used to it !

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« Reply #519 on: April 05, 2025, 03:43:41 PM »
You want the manager sacked at half time, 40 games into the season and he’s a “dinosaur”. Sounds like you’ve had a meltdown. Back in the real world, the manager’s job isn’t under threat. He’s only been in the door five minutes.
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« Reply #520 on: April 05, 2025, 03:46:12 PM »
Cut the petty little personal digs, you're on the wrong forum if you think it will be allowed.
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« Reply #521 on: April 05, 2025, 04:18:57 PM »
Here he is!the obsessive one!nowhere near as bad as Bruce !if you remember we were bottom !he ain’t going nowhere so just get used to it !

We can agree there, he won’t be going anywhere, but I cannot be happy about it, nor should anyone, as we have regressed massively.

If you think we are better off now than under Corberan then we will never agree, sadly, but you do you, boo

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« Reply #522 on: April 05, 2025, 05:01:29 PM »
Wasn't his choice to sell Palmer and it's not as bad as Bruce but I wouldn't miss him if he goes end of season.

Everything I didn't like about Corberan he's pretty much continued with
That saved me writing exactly the same
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« Reply #523 on: April 05, 2025, 05:27:13 PM »
Knew the supporter of mediocrity would pipe up.

How did your backing of Bruce and Button turn out?

Clubs make mistakes appointing managers which only manifest themselves when they are in the job, act quickly to change things before the rot sets in long term.

Today was like the Colchester game from years ago when he just throws on all the forwards, and hopes for the best.

He has not got the money he had last time he was with us nor the talent on the pitch to win those Colchester type games now, and he doesn't know what to do.

This disastrous appointment is definitely Nestor's fault. Dithering and doddering until finally praying that the doctor's give Mogga a clean bill of health, and like I said when he was mooted as the first choice it had to be until the end of the season only or at worst 18 months, but giving him 2 and half years was shocking and I only hope that there is a break clause.

Hilarious. Good to know I still live rent free in your head. That about the only positive from today. If the board decide to stick or twist in the summer, that is rational either way, as they can review the season. To sack the manager at this point of the season is insane. Not much has changed - side is producing similar to Corberan without Palmer & Maja. Goal shy.


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« Reply #524 on: April 05, 2025, 05:30:50 PM »
We can agree there, he won’t be going anywhere, but I cannot be happy about it, nor should anyone, as we have regressed massively.

If you think we are better off now than under Corberan then we will never agree, sadly, but you do you, boo

I would be surprised if anyone thought we were better off, a regression was inevitable when Corberan left as he was a brilliant coach, and there aren’t many of those around. Although overall, not much has changed. Similar to first half of season - without Palmer & Maja, key absolute key players. We can’t score, and our keeper is prone to a calamity. Tricky. I hope he starts Griffiths at Bristol City and Grant needs to come out, as he can’t score or assist.