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Who would you like to be our next permanent head coach/manager?

Rob Edwards
23 (6.6%)
Sean Dyche
115 (32.8%)
Scott Parker
15 (4.3%)
Chris Wilder
11 (3.1%)
John Terry
3 (0.9%)
Roy Keane
3 (0.9%)
Michael Carrick
26 (7.4%)
Slavisa Jokanovic
5 (1.4%)
Chris Hughton
1 (0.3%)
Michael O'Neill
0 (0%)
Carlos Coberán
48 (13.7%)
Liam Rosenior
9 (2.6%)
Someone not listed
38 (10.8%)
Enzo Maresca
35 (10%)
Gary Rowett
0 (0%)
Stephen Schumacher
19 (5.4%)

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Re: WBA Next Manager/Head Coach Thread
« Reply #650 on: October 16, 2022, 01:43:11 PM »
Schumacher has Plymouth playing some outstanding stuff…top of the league and killing it every week.

Lots of Plymouth fans where I am and they are currently very happy…

It’s the kind of move i’d like the club to make, I’d hate us to ruin his reputation though at the same time due to the predicament the club is in currently not just manager-wise but at ownership and how the club is run currently.
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« Reply #651 on: October 16, 2022, 02:16:44 PM »
Just went to put a bet on him at 20/1 in the time it’s took to input my card details it’s changed to 6/4 so some money going on him now it seems.

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« Reply #652 on: October 16, 2022, 02:17:07 PM »
When was the last time a manager doing great made the step up to champ and continued to do well? I remember the pair who took over at Huddersfield and it went sour fast.

Would love us to do it and it work out mind.

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« Reply #653 on: October 16, 2022, 02:30:31 PM »
When was the last time a manager doing great made the step up to champ and continued to do well? I remember the pair who took over at Huddersfield and it went sour fast.

Would love us to do it and it work out mind.

The Cowley's did alright at Huddersfield, they had 1 point from 6 games when they took over and were a complete mess. The Cowley's came in and kept them up with 50 points in 39 games which is solid mid-table form. They got sacked over off the field matters.

As for last people to make the step up, well Ryan Lowe is doing an excellent job at Preston (and was actually Plymouth's manager before Schumacher), while Russell Martin seems very highly thought at Swansea.

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« Reply #654 on: October 16, 2022, 02:41:09 PM »
Schumacher is very much of the type I’d advocate  :)

I am sure there will be a race to secure his services very soon. Hopefully we will be in pole position......
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« Reply #655 on: October 16, 2022, 02:46:30 PM »
I am sure there will be a race to secure his services very soon. Hopefully we will be in pole position......

 ;D

I’m sure there’s a joke about Grand Prix there somewhere  :P

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« Reply #656 on: October 16, 2022, 03:21:40 PM »
;D

I’m sure there’s a joke about Grand Prix there somewhere  :P

Yes, I’ve already said to a Plymouth follower that knowing us we’ll end up with Ralph or Michael!

The Plymouth fans I know praise him
Highly and he sounds the exact manager we should be going for. They’d be gutted to lose him so there’s really no better endorsement than that.
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« Reply #657 on: October 16, 2022, 03:28:46 PM »
Yes, I’ve already said to a Plymouth follower that knowing us we’ll end up with Ralph or Michael!

The Plymouth fans I know praise him
Highly and he sounds the exact manager we should be going for. They’d be gutted to lose him so there’s really no better endorsement than that.

My concern is that he may be a fantastic appointment however unless he has a proper structure around him it won’t work and he’ll become another “failed manager”.

I hope he insists that he brings his whole team with him if that’s the case as the club have got no real football knowledge at the club currently.

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« Reply #658 on: October 16, 2022, 03:38:03 PM »
My concern is that he may be a fantastic appointment however unless he has a proper structure around him it won’t work and he’ll become another “failed manager”.

I hope he insists that he brings his whole team with him if that’s the case as the club have got no real football knowledge at the club currently.

Spot on, but any manager coming in needs a structure behind him for support on a day top day basis and to assist him and giving him the best chance possible to win matches, he/she doesn't need to be bogged down with the politics around the ownership of the club and how it is run.

Although, the ownership issue might be a secondary consideration for some thinking of taking on the job
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« Reply #659 on: October 16, 2022, 04:44:26 PM »
Schumacher would be the ideal choice in my opinion.

Tactics are adaptable, with this guy, if it’s not working he changes things quickly.
Watch yesterday’s highlights away at MK Dons.
I like the way his teams press as a unit, and the calm passing moving towards goal are impressive.

Schumacher also likes to rotate his squad, especially his strikers, which seems to keep them fresh and hungry.

Go get him before another club does, Albion
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« Reply #660 on: October 16, 2022, 04:54:26 PM »
Schumacher would be the ideal choice in my opinion.

Tactics are adaptable, with this guy, if it’s not working he changes things quickly.
Watch yesterday’s highlights away at MK Dons.
I like the way his teams press as a unit, and the calm passing moving towards goal are impressive.

Schumacher also likes to rotate his squad, especially his strikers, which seems to keep them fresh and hungry.

Go get him before another club does, Albion
All well and good, but are we able to stump up more compensation?
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« Reply #661 on: October 16, 2022, 05:01:48 PM »
All well and good, but are we able to stump up more compensation?
I like the sound of him 38yrs old up an coming manager.
This is what is said on West Brom News..
Schumacher, though, might be the man to take Albion into the future and West Brom are unlikely to be put off by what Nixon believes to be a minimal compensation fee that would be owed to Plymouth.

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« Reply #662 on: October 16, 2022, 05:04:18 PM »
All well and good, but are we able to stump up more compensation?

I can’t imagine compensation would be much. I don’t know if I’m about to explain this particularly well, but a league one club must be worried about the potential cost of getting rid of a failing manager as much as they are having one poached. The balance is probably that contracts aren’t long and compensation isn’t high. 

You can’t say a manager is only worth £1500 pw on a rolling contact but then stick a £500,000 release clause. 

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« Reply #663 on: October 16, 2022, 05:17:09 PM »
Schumacher would be a massive gamble, 14 games as a manager and spent most of his playing career in the lower leagues.
We all need to start somewhere I suppose but I think we need some experience if only a season.
I would like a different forward thinking manager myself but I don’t think it’s now.
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« Reply #664 on: October 16, 2022, 05:31:46 PM »
Schumacher would be a massive gamble, 14 games as a manager and spent most of his playing career in the lower leagues.
We all need to start somewhere I suppose but I think we need some experience if only a season.
I would like a different forward thinking manager myself but I don’t think it’s now.

He’s managed 40 games but I take your point. It is still a gamble and he is inexperienced.

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« Reply #665 on: October 16, 2022, 05:52:13 PM »
Schumacher would be a massive gamble, 14 games as a manager and spent most of his playing career in the lower leagues.
We all need to start somewhere I suppose but I think we need some experience if only a season.
I would like a different forward thinking manager myself but I don’t think it’s now.
That's what many on here said before we appointed Bruce and Allardyce, a safe pair of hands for a season or two, but they were both big failures, so experience doesn't equate to success. Better to take a chance and look to the future, appoint a progressive coach who can improve and develop the players we have on our books. It's much less of a risk really.

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« Reply #666 on: October 16, 2022, 06:04:20 PM »
That's what many on here said before we appointed Bruce and Allardyce, a safe pair of hands for a season or two, but they were both big failures, so experience doesn't equate to success. Better to take a chance and look to the future, appoint a progressive coach who can improve and develop the players we have on our books. It's much less of a risk really.
Agreed, we want a manager who is on the way up and is ambitious with something to prove not another one who has been around the houses.

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« Reply #667 on: October 16, 2022, 06:24:57 PM »
Agreed, we want a manager who is on the way up and is ambitious with something to prove not another one who has been around the houses.

I totally agree with you. Let’s be bold but then let’s fully support whoever it may be.

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« Reply #668 on: October 16, 2022, 06:48:14 PM »
Ian Evett of Bolton should be considered if Schumacher refuses, in the same mould.

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« Reply #669 on: October 16, 2022, 07:02:43 PM »
He’s managed 40 games but I take your point. It is still a gamble and he is inexperienced.

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/sport/football/steven-schumacher-going-back-plymouth-7701129.amp

How many games did Roberto di Matteo have under his belt when we appointed him?


Just checked - 52 in one season as manager of MK Dons
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« Reply #670 on: October 16, 2022, 07:42:24 PM »
I know next to nothing about Schumacher, can anyone who has watched or even knows a little about him say wether he has changed much from when Lowe was there?
Or is he riding on the coat tails of the work Lowe did before he left ?

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« Reply #671 on: October 16, 2022, 08:41:04 PM »
Did anyone know about Ron Atkinson  :)

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« Reply #672 on: October 16, 2022, 08:44:32 PM »
Did anyone know about Ron Atkinson  :)
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« Reply #673 on: October 16, 2022, 10:27:08 PM »
Did anyone know about Ron Atkinson  :)

Inherited an absolutely excellent side, bought very badly (Mills, Deehan, Barnes) then tore the team to bits - from which we as a club have never recovered.

We were a whole lot better for Atkinson than he ever was for us.

And even then we had him back - and he walked out on us again at the first opportunity.

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« Reply #674 on: October 16, 2022, 10:41:11 PM »
Inherited an absolutely excellent side, bought very badly (Mills, Deehan, Barnes) then tore the team to bits - from which we as a club have never recovered.

We were a whole lot better for Atkinson than he ever was for us.

And even then we had him back - and he walked out on us again at the first opportunity.

My old man absolutely hates Ron Atkinson. I remember him saying at some point that the first time he came back to wba after going to united he needed a police escort. Seems many fans softened to him quite quickly though given  he managed us for a second time (still before I was born)

Always found that a bit odd as I’ve never really noticed any sort of hate towards him but your post perhaps sheds some light on that
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