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Rugby League World Cup 2021 (2022)
« on: October 07, 2022, 07:07:02 AM »
As mentioned in another thread, the Rugby League World cup 2021 2022 starts next week, so I though I'd create a thread here.

All games will be on BBC and tonight you can watch England's warm up game vs the tricky, but unfancied Fiji online if you want to get into the spirit.

The world cup odds only make us 5th favourites which is a bit embarrassing for a home world cup but gives you an idea how the tournament is dominated by Aussies and 2nd generation Pacific islanders playing in Australia.

Betting odds:

Australia (F)
New Zealand
Samoa
Tonga
England
Fiji

England start the tournament proper vs the much fancied Samoa next weekend, who seem to have overtaken Tonga as the "ones to watch".
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Re: Rugby League World Cup 2021 (2022)
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2022, 01:14:43 PM »
Team news out for the opener England v Samoa, with 5 debutants in the squad including 3 playing in Australia.

Game starts at 2:30pm on Saturday on the BBC, not ideal timing given the football is at 3 (surely 5:30 was the right time to start). Anyway, I'd recommend it to anyone who will only be listening to Albion on the radio - it should be one of the games of the entire tournament with England being underdogs despite home advantage.
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Re: Rugby League World Cup 2021 (2022)
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2022, 04:44:54 PM »
England 60 - 6 Samoa - the third favourites were always going to be rusty and will be way better later in the tournament, but on this evidence l, I wouldn't rule out France turning them over for 2nd place.

As for England, we are near enough certain now to make the semi finals, saving for Tonga suffering a shock loss in the group stage in group D (which is the most common.oetetive group so isn't impossible). Great showing, unexpected for me given the age of some of those playing.
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Re: Rugby League World Cup 2021 (2022)
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2022, 10:09:33 AM »
Samoans were blowing after 20 mins, England were so intense. Apart from one 5 min spell we were imperious
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Re: Rugby League World Cup 2021 (2022)
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2022, 09:40:03 PM »
Tonga - Papua New Guinea have made up for what has been a poor night so far. Pre tournament it was always a contender for the tie of the group stages and it lived up to the billing.

Tonga - 4th favourites pre tournament - won with a very late try but PNG had 2 tries disallowed and maybe should have scored the upset win. PNG look like they should get 2nd place in the group now and face England in the quarters - a repeat of the 2017 tournament. When we last played PNG in 2019 they beat us so the quarter final will be tasty.

As for Tonga, it could be ring rust but they don’t look the side they were between 2017-2019 where they were for a small window the best side in the world. Their likely quarter final vs Samoa is hard to call.
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Re: Rugby League World Cup 2021 (2022)
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2022, 11:59:30 PM »
You’re all addicted now aren’t you? For the very small percentage of the forum who aren’t yet there, the first round of group games finished last night as the Cook Islands squeezed past a spirited Welsh side. It means we have a good idea how the tournament should play out from here up until the quarter/semi final stage. Most of the really competitive ties were scheduled for game round 1 but there are still some close match ups to keep an eye out for the neutral.
 
Sunday 23rd sees Lebanon face Ireland. Outside of the big 3 and the obvious Polynesian islands, Lebanon are near enough as good as anyone thanks to the large Lebanese population in Australia, although there are a couple from their domestic league in the wider squad. Ireland take most of their side from 2nd and 3rd gen Anglo Irish players but do have some Aussie-Irish in their ranks. It’s possibly the most intriguing game left in the group stages.

The day before sees Italy face Fiji. It should be a straightforward Fijian win but they have lost their 2 games on British soil so far while Italy looked good vs Scotland in their first game so an upset isn’t out of the question.

PNG face Cook Islands next Tuesday in the battle for second place in group D with the winners likely facing England in the quarter finals. PNG start as strong favourites and it would be a huge shock if Cook Islands manage to get through to face us for what I believe would be the first time.

The last of the genuinely competitive games sees a so far out of Sorts Samoa face France in the group A decider next Sunday. Samoa may blow off the cobwebs when they destroy Greece this weekend but France should fancy their chances of running Samoa close, especially if they are still suffering a hangover from the England game.

As for England, we face France this Saturday around 4:30/5pm. It will be a 2nd string side with players rotated in, including veteran try scoring legend Ryan Hall and front rower Mikolaj Oledzki - who as far as I know is the first Polish born sportsmen to represent England from the post 2004 migration.

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Re: Rugby League World Cup 2021 (2022)
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2022, 12:02:39 AM »
So round 2 is all over (as you will all be aware I’m sure). The second round of matches was a bit of a dud at times with no competitive ties. There were a few hammerings doled out by Australia, Samoa, Fiji and New Zealand - all to be expected but still disappointing given the gap between Fiji and Italy in particular. In the ties that could have been competitive, Ireland were disappointing vs Lebanon in what should have been the tie of the round going down 32-14, while the Cook Islands gave PNG a scare in the first half before they were comfortably beaten in the end 32-16 in tonight’s game.

It means the final group stage games have very little jeopardy left. We know with near certainty the 4 group winners (England, New Zealand, Australia and Tonga) and we also know that Lebanon and Fiji will 99% be in the quarters with them, I’ll still watch the New Zealand vs Ireland game with interest just in case New Zealand rest players and make hard work of the tie but Lebanon will hammer Jamaica regardless. PNG have a potential banana skin game vs a plucky Wales side who haven’t disgraced themselves vs Cook Islands or Tonga but could probably rest players and still finish 2nd place, even with a loss as I don’t see Cook Islands beating Tonga (I’ll caveat that by saying Tonga are already through to the quarter finals so may rest players - especially as it still isn’t clear which side out of England and Samoa you want to avoid in the next round). The one hard to pick game will be in Group A where France take on Samoa in a winner takes all game to get a Quarter final match up vs Tonga. Samoa showed what they can do vs Greece at the weekend but Greece are arguably the weakest side in the tournament, while France have a squad full of super league players. It should be a Samoa win but France did fair better vs England than Samoa managed so who knows.

As for England, it’s been a comfortable tournament so far in what looked the toughest group of the lot, making easy work of Samoa and France. Rugby League fans keep talking about 6 foot 7 winger Dom Young who only turned 21 year old a few months ago. Comparisons are already being made with Martin Offiah with some hoping he might be the sports first British star to break through into the wider public’s consciousness since Robinson, Offiah and to a lesser extent Long. While I personally expect him to end up trying his hand at Rugby Union, he does have star power and might become the best winger in the world. He is on fire this tournament and we will no doubt need his scores to get passed Tonga/Samoa and Australia/New Zealand in the knock out stages.
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Re: Rugby League World Cup 2021 (2022)
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2022, 11:03:01 PM »
The group stages ended tonight, with both the women's and wheelchair world cups starting tomorrow.

The quarter finals will be Lebanon v Australia, New Zealand v Fiji, England v PNG and Tonga v Samoa. Australia will wipe the floor with Lebanon, while New Zeleand will almost certainly avenge their quarter final loss 5  years ago vs the same opponents. England v PNG is intriguing following the PNG win in Port Moresby a few years ago, but with home crowd advantage, I predict a win by 15-20 points for England.  That leaves Tonga vs Samoa on Sunday. I'd recommend any neutral watch this game above any other. Both sides are starting to come into their own as their sides, both full of top NRL players get used to playing with each other. Tonga probably start favourites but Samoa were 3rd favourites pre tournament. Winners should play England in the semi final.
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Re: Rugby League World Cup 2021 (2022)
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2022, 10:37:17 AM »
Would be pretty disappointing if England don't make the final from here

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Re: Rugby League World Cup 2021 (2022)
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2022, 08:01:38 PM »
A statement performance against PNG sees us into the semi final following a destructive first half an hour which saw us through without breaking much of a sweat.

There we will face Samoa again, who beat Tonga in one of the  games of the tournament despite Tonga having a set of 6 nearly enough on their try line in the final 2 minutes. Samoa are a lot different to the side we pummeled a few weeks ago, having gelled their star studded side. It will be a tough one to predict but hopefully home advantage will see us through.

The other semi will be Australia v New Zealand after the Kiwis just squeezed through vs Fiji who at one stage looked on for yet another shock win against the same opponents from 5 years ago.

Both games should be competitive- I'm going to predict an Australia v Samoa final.
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Re: Rugby League World Cup 2021 (2022)
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2022, 05:05:19 PM »
Most eyes will have been on the Albion game today, but those of us who couldn't get a link to work watched England bow out to a aide the hammered a couple of weeks ago in Samoa. Not a huge surprise, Samoa have a side full of NRL stars who as the tournament went on have got uses to playing with each other. That doesn't excuse though a really poor performance, all things considered. After being brilliant for 4 games, we seemed to choose today to start making silly mistakes. Failures to convert pressure and possession into tries did for us, as well as increasingly giving the ball away in silly positions. Samoa eventually won with an extra time golden goal type scenario, kicking over for a 1 point win.

Samoa will play Australia next week, the first time a nation not New Zealand, England/GB or France have made the final. Going in today's showing, if the Aussies are focused they should win without too much trouble. As for England, I reckon that was our last real chance of winning the tournament. The next 3 will be played in France, Australasia and North America and I can't see rugby league in England having enough of a foot hold by the time we next see the tournament in 15-20 years time.
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