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Re: New CEO
« Reply #150 on: February 09, 2022, 11:05:34 AM »
This was discussed at the meeting and will be addressed in the near future. The main problem is getting people to attend meetings at 7pm after a hard days work, which dont affect the old buggers like me who are retired.

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« Reply #151 on: February 09, 2022, 02:09:36 PM »
The **** from the assembly members is encouraging. I entirely understand the cynicism around his role as consultant or as he puts it an observer. In his position I'd take the opportunity of a clean slate so I will let him have it. His watch starts now. The decisions he takes are now are what counts his legacy hinges on how those decisions turn out

Let's be clear his brief from the owners is simple get this club sold and sold for a price as close as possible to the one we paid for it. We should always remember this his prime purpose is not building long term it is about the short term. Hence the emphasis on the need to get back in the Premier League.

Let us judge what he does in that light. His firing of Ismael and hiring of Bruce is entirely rational in the short term. Ismael had obviously lost the dressing room and the fans. While having a drag out fight with the dressing room might be beneficial long term and might have worked with a manager who was popular with the fans it wasn't sustainable under Ismael. More importantly it wrote off whatever chance we had for a promotion which might have been okay had we been miles off the pace but not when we are in the top 6 with more nearly two thirds of the season gone.

So he needed a manager and quick. He turned to Bruce. Personally I would not have gone there. Yet looking at the practicalities from the short term perspective where we are rather than where I'd like to be it has a certain logic sitting in Ron Gourlay's shoes what am I going to do?

Hire someone who is available who knows the league and has a track record of promotions. The fact that I know them would also help a lot. If that is person is interested am I going to open up the search given that I need someone now and can get them without committing to a 4 year full fat contract? Probably not.

With regard to the DoF and potential board appointments it is wait and see. For me the appointment of a DoF is a bit of a touchstone. If you are serious about running the club on a reasonably smart basis appointing a DoF is a first step does not mean that you will be smart but it's a start. Yet in the short term giving the keys to Bruce keeps things simple and if he succeeds in the short term Gouraly probably does not to worry over much about being smart as long as he can tart the the club and sell it on.

On that basis I will be interested to see who gets appointed to the board that will tell us a great deal about the direction of travel . I suspect the expertise they will bring will be around finding new owners rather than an in depth knowledge of the rising stars of South American football. 

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« Reply #152 on: February 09, 2022, 02:25:42 PM »
The **** from the assembly members is encouraging. I entirely understand the cynicism around his role as consultant or as he puts it an observer. In his position I'd take the opportunity of a clean slate so I will let him have it. His watch starts now. The decisions he takes are now are what counts his legacy hinges on how those decisions turn out

Let's be clear his brief from the owners is simple get this club sold and sold for a price as close as possible to the one we paid for it. We should always remember this his prime purpose is not building long term it is about the short term. Hence the emphasis on the need to get back in the Premier League.

Let us judge what he does in that light. His firing of Ismael and hiring of Bruce is entirely rational in the short term. Ismael had obviously lost the dressing room and the fans. While having a drag out fight with the dressing room might be beneficial long term and might have worked with a manager who was popular with the fans it wasn't sustainable under Ismael. More importantly it wrote off whatever chance we had for a promotion which might have been okay had we been miles off the pace but not when we are in the top 6 with more nearly two thirds of the season gone.

So he needed a manager and quick. He turned to Bruce. Personally I would have gone there. Yet looking at the practicalities from the short term perspective where we are rather than where I'd like to be it has a certain logic sitting in Ron Gourlay's shoes what am I going to do?

Hire someone who is available who knows the league and has a track record of promotions. The fact that I know them would also help a lot. If that is person is interested am I going to open up the search given that I need someone now and can get them without committing to a 4 year full fat contract? Probably not.

With regard to the DoF and potential board appointments it is wait and see. For me the appointment of a DoF is a bit of a touchstone. If you are serious about running the club on a reasonably smart basis appointing a DoF is a first step does not mean that you will be smart but it's a start. Yet in the short term giving the keys to Bruce keeps things simple and if he succeeds in the short Gouraly probably does not to worry over much about being smart as long as he can tart the the club and sell it on.

On that basis I will be interested to see who gets appointed to the board that will tell us a great deal about the direction of travel . I suspect the expertise they will bring will be around finding new owners rather than an in depth knowledge of the rising stars of South American football.

I'd compare it to selling a run down property...................

You can sell it as it is for a cheap price & give the new owners a chance to put their signature on it, or you spend some time to modernise it & get a premium price.

IMO, nobody is going to give GL £170 million for WBA in it's current state, even with a couple of sticking plasters on, but they might if it were modernised.

I do agree about the new directors though, RG's comments about how football is run today suggests it's more to do with income streams, rather than the football itself.
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« Reply #153 on: February 10, 2022, 11:47:29 PM »
Wonderful.  Maybe they could have a picture of the different managers from the last x number of years each time they sing the phrase 'Another one bites the dust'.

My missus is well up for this.  Could be good but I do worry about the weather to be honest

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« Reply #154 on: February 16, 2022, 09:46:39 PM »
Have the minutes of the assembly meeting been published yet?

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« Reply #155 on: February 17, 2022, 09:30:24 AM »
Have the minutes of the assembly meeting been published yet?

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« Reply #156 on: February 18, 2022, 01:22:18 PM »
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« Reply #158 on: February 19, 2022, 05:02:21 PM »
This idiot who got Val and now Bruce needs going asap
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« Reply #159 on: February 21, 2022, 07:53:09 PM »
Ron Gourlay has spent most of his formative years as a football executive at Chelsea.  Can anyone out there tell me how running a club with Chelsea's resources reads across to running WBA?
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« Reply #160 on: February 22, 2022, 07:57:03 AM »
Ron Gourlay has spent most of his formative years as a football executive at Chelsea.  Can anyone out there tell me how running a club with Chelsea's resources reads across to running WBA?

He had a pot to spend at Chelsea, here we have no pot to urine in !

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« Reply #161 on: February 23, 2022, 08:43:34 AM »
Ron needs to start a clear out of the recruitment department asap before we are lumbered with more dead wood, as for his appointment of his mate Steve not looking great at the minute.

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« Reply #162 on: February 23, 2022, 08:57:53 AM »
Is Ron Gourlay any more informed about football than the average fan?  I doubt it.

He obviously thought Bruce would be a "safe appointment".  Someone to get results and steady the ship, regardless of whether the top 6 was achievable.

Where we are now is hoping to stave off complete humiliation.  Flashbacks to Buckley's grim record of 1 point in 14 league games in 95/96 (but we were rubbish with no money).

I don't think Ron Gourlay envisaged results getting even worse.  Furthermore, I don't think anyone appreciated just how limited Bruce could be.

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« Reply #163 on: February 23, 2022, 08:58:03 AM »
Any CEO can talk a good game. Actually doing it will be something else. I'm just sceptical he'll even get the time or resources to have a proper go. Lai has already managed to see off Williams, Goodman, Dowling, Li Piyue and Ken during his reign. Pretty sure it will be the same for Gourlay the moment we reach a new low.
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« Reply #164 on: February 23, 2022, 12:20:18 PM »
Any CEO can talk a good game. Actually doing it will be something else. I'm just sceptical he'll even get the time or resources to have a proper go. Lai has already managed to see off Williams, Goodman, Dowling, Li Piyue and Ken during his reign. Pretty sure it will be the same for Gourlay the moment we reach a new low.

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« Reply #165 on: February 23, 2022, 06:09:42 PM »
The Bruce appointment will be very much his baby. What I found damning is that nobody else was interviewed or considered. A short list of one. Don't we usually interview several? Billic was available. Wasn't Lampard? Both of whom would have had us playing better football and who the players could more easily have identified with. Or indeed we could have considered a young ambitious European coach.  The SB choice was the lazy option.   
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« Reply #166 on: February 23, 2022, 06:35:02 PM »
Terrible appointment. Just one more example of our hopeless recent recruitments, players and staff. What a mess we're in.

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« Reply #167 on: February 28, 2022, 10:13:53 PM »
Didn’t Gorlay promise to speak with us more. The silence is deafening. I know he was probably hoping to win something first.

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« Reply #168 on: February 28, 2022, 10:17:05 PM »
Just another meat and 2 veg man. His first big decision is turning out to be a disaster. Hilarious.
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« Reply #169 on: February 28, 2022, 10:18:40 PM »
Didn’t Gorlay promise to speak with us more. The silence is deafening. I know he was probably hoping to win something first.
He only wanted to talk about car parking and meat pies!

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« Reply #170 on: February 28, 2022, 10:19:16 PM »
you would think that by law of averages the club would get something right in all this time.

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« Reply #171 on: March 01, 2022, 03:43:35 AM »
Well Ron will get his P45 when Bruce goes...
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« Reply #172 on: March 01, 2022, 05:16:29 AM »
He will be lucky to last the summer

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« Reply #173 on: March 01, 2022, 05:02:14 PM »
Has anyone checked on him? For a bloke who promised to improve communications and the disconnection between club and disaffected support base he seems to have gone very quiet of late. Strange what with him being such a man of the people. Where's Ron Gone?
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« Reply #174 on: March 01, 2022, 05:20:05 PM »
Has anyone checked on him? For a bloke who promised to improve communications and the disconnection between club and disaffected support base he seems to have gone very quiet of late. Strange what with him being such a man of the people. Where's Ron Gone?

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