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« Reply #325 on: August 27, 2024, 06:01:58 PM »
If he does go, we need to play absolute hardball for the fee and also % of any resale.

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« Reply #326 on: August 27, 2024, 06:05:50 PM »
We could replace him - certainly with a good loan player.  Don’t forget that a sizeable part of his value comes from being home-grown. We could spend part of the money.  Any transfer fees spent on a replacement gets amortized over 3-4 years whereas we’d bank an immediate full FFP profit by selling him.

Selling him takes all the financial pressure off. I had resigned myself to him going on this window, and as I’ve said previously it would not surprise me at all if it does.

A very good contact of mine who’s close to a few key people at Albion told me on Sunday that from what he’d heard TF has probably played his last game for us.
Being home-grown is an extra reason we need to hold onto him. Fans need a couple of local homegrown players to identify with. If he goes, we're down to Palmer in the regular side.
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« Reply #327 on: August 27, 2024, 06:46:44 PM »
No reason to sell our best player for peanuts 10 million is laughable, look at OShea sold him a year ago for 7 moves for 15 .

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« Reply #328 on: August 27, 2024, 06:54:05 PM »
Fellows is a terrific player. Very direct winger, can go both ways when dribbling as he's good with both his left and right foot. 3 assists in 3 so far this season and given West Brom's financial position would hopefully not be too expensive.

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Re: Tom Fellows
« Reply #329 on: August 27, 2024, 06:54:30 PM »
We could replace him - certainly with a good loan player.  Don’t forget that a sizeable part of his value comes from being home-grown.  We could spend part of the money.  Any transfer fees spent on a replacement gets amortized over 3-4 years whereas we’d bank an immediate full FFP profit by selling him.

Selling him takes all the financial pressure off. I had resigned myself to him going on this window, and as I’ve said previously it would not surprise me at all if it does.

A very good contact of mine who’s close to a few key people at Albion told me on Sunday that from what he’d heard TF has probably played his last game for us.

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Fellows is going nowhere.

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« Reply #330 on: August 27, 2024, 06:54:32 PM »
No reason to sell our best player for peanuts 10 million is laughable, look at OShea sold him a year ago for 7 moves for 15 .

The silver lining with O'shea is that the 20% sell on clause has made that £7m more like £8.6m now, which is a bit nicer.

In terms of Fellows. Like i and others have said on twitter, if it's £16/20m then that's more than half the debt gone. Give Carlos £5m and it's the right move... maybe?

What i'd rather is keep him and let him get another 40 games for us. If that equals 5 goals and 20 assists, then he's solidly a £20m player and if we've not gone up with that fueling us this season, then so be it. He can go with our best wishes, like Enzo once upon a time.
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Re: Tom Fellows
« Reply #331 on: August 27, 2024, 06:56:07 PM »
The silver lining with O'shea is that the 20% sell on clause has made that £7m more like £8.6m now, which is a bit nicer.

In terms of Fellows. Like i and others have said on twitter, if it's £16/20m then that's more than half the debt gone. Give Carlos £5m and it's the right move... maybe?

What i'd rather is keep him and let him get another 40 games for us. If that equals 5 goals and 20 assists, then he's solidly a £20m player and if we've not gone up with that fueling us this season, then so be it. He can go with our best wishes, like Enzo once upon a time.

The chairman is covering the MSD loan, no need to sweat about the finances. We have already brought in a substantial amount this summer and reduced the wage bill significantly.

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« Reply #332 on: August 27, 2024, 06:59:51 PM »
The chairman is covering the MSD loan, no need to sweat about the finances. We have already brought in a substantial amount this summer and reduced the wage bill significantly.

All that is true. But in 22/23 we lost £11m (approx) and 23/24 is expected to be about £23m. We have indeed raised funds and cut the wage bill, but we've very much needed to and we're still running at a loss. We can only afford to lose £4m this season (i think), so what i'm saying is +£20m to the accounts is a very big ask. £10m is a simple no for me. £20m isn't. (I do hope he stays though!)
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« Reply #333 on: August 27, 2024, 07:02:21 PM »
The silver lining with O'shea is that the 20% sell on clause has made that £7m more like £8.6m now, which is a bit nicer.

In terms of Fellows. Like i and others have said on twitter, if it's £16/20m then that's more than half the debt gone. Give Carlos £5m and it's the right move... maybe?

What i'd rather is keep him and let him get another 40 games for us. If that equals 5 goals and 20 assists, then he's solidly a £20m player and if we've not gone up with that fueling us this season, then so be it. He can go with our best wishes, like Enzo once upon a time.
dont  see any silver lining in selling players who’s value doubles after one season and to compound that by only getting 20 percent on the profit he makes for Burnley.

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« Reply #334 on: August 27, 2024, 07:10:06 PM »
Utter madness to even consider selling Fellows.

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« Reply #335 on: August 27, 2024, 07:13:07 PM »
Utter madness to even consider selling Fellows.
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« Reply #336 on: August 27, 2024, 07:37:48 PM »
 Money is not everything Fellows might want to stay
 We haven't got to sell because he can go for nothing next year
We musn't virtually give him away like we did Pereira
If we are prepared to sell it is up to the potential buyer to come up with the money and as the window will close shortly we must test their resolve as they won't be able to sign him if we do not get our asking price and I do trust our owner in business matters and of course if at the end of the day we sell him and it is likely the reason for us missing promotion the sale really would be bad business with potential loss far exceeding the transfer fee.

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« Reply #337 on: August 27, 2024, 07:39:59 PM »
Money is not everything Fellows might want to stay
 We haven't got to sell because he can go for nothing next year
We musn't virtually give him away like we did Pereira
If we are prepared to sell it is up to the potential buyer to come up with the money and as the window will close shortly we must test their resolve as they won't be able to sign him if we do not get our asking price and I do trust our owner in business matters and of course if at the end of the day we sell him and it is likely the reason for us missing promotion the sale really would be bad business with potential loss far exceeding the transfer fee.un
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« Reply #338 on: August 27, 2024, 07:54:13 PM »
Needs to be £20m & and 25% sell on on whole of next transfer fee.
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« Reply #339 on: August 27, 2024, 07:56:41 PM »
Officially rejected offer considered well below his market value.
So pay up or shut up.
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« Reply #340 on: August 27, 2024, 08:15:08 PM »
John Percy confirming a rejected £10m offer. Lots of clubs monitoring now (Palace, Saints, maybe Everton, wouldnt be shocked by Wolves either). I've got a feeling that in the next 3 days we will see that offer getting towards £16m and i reckon the club might blink. A shame, as he is 4 good months away from being a £20m market valu3 player.
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« Reply #341 on: August 27, 2024, 08:20:07 PM »
I presume the club's budget for this season is not dependant on Fellows' sale. That would mean the club is no longer viable if we failed to sell him. Nobody could have been certain that another club would come in for him.
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« Reply #342 on: August 27, 2024, 08:36:52 PM »
It's difficult as a very long term supporter not to be exited by players, but they come and go. as they have ever since players and their agents got the upper hand, deservedly - but football is a business and we need to do more to just survive. TF may just give us that life belt as did Maresca

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« Reply #343 on: August 27, 2024, 08:44:54 PM »
Look at the fees Ipswich paid for players.
Hutchinson £18 mil plus add ons
Greaves £15 mil plus add ons
O’Shea £15 mil plus add ons

Fellows should be at least £17-20 mil

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« Reply #344 on: August 27, 2024, 08:51:35 PM »
I’m starting to grow a real disdain for Southampton, as a club they are clearly as arrogant as the tosspot they employ as manager. £10m is a insulting offer, I’d understand it if we’d sold no-one up to this point & we desperately needed to get funds into the club but Southampton will have been fully aware that we have some more breathing room financially now.

I hope we tell them to stick their offer & we quote them an extra £5m for wasting our time, it’s not like Fellows has a lack of suitors.

I think it’l take a club to offer £20m + to get him this summer. I don’t think anyone will go to that figure but if they did we’d have a very hard time turning that down.

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« Reply #345 on: August 27, 2024, 08:55:20 PM »
No reason to sell our best player for peanuts 10 million is laughable, look at OShea sold him a year ago for 7 moves for 15 .

We had to sell him for £7m. His release clause was only £8m and we had to get quick cash to keep the lights on.

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« Reply #346 on: August 27, 2024, 08:56:31 PM »
Choose your friends carefully  :D

Fellows is going nowhere.

Sadly mate I think you’ll be proved wrong, although I hope it’s my mate who’s wrong!

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« Reply #347 on: August 27, 2024, 08:57:55 PM »
Needs to be £20m & and 25% sell on on whole of next transfer fee.

No club has ever agreed a deal based on a % of the next transfer fee.  It’s ALWAYS based on that club’s profit on the future sale

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« Reply #348 on: August 27, 2024, 08:59:37 PM »
I presume the club's budget for this season is not dependant on Fellows' sale. That would mean the club is no longer viable if we failed to sell him. Nobody could have been certain that another club would come in for him.

Correct.  It merely gets us to where we need to get to in terms of being sustainable a couple of years earlier, which means that we’re in a stronger position to invest to get promoted within 2-3 years.

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« Reply #349 on: August 27, 2024, 09:00:05 PM »
It's difficult as a very long term supporter not to be exited by players, but they come and go. as they have ever since players and their agents got the upper hand, deservedly - but football is a business and we need to do more to just survive. TF may just give us that life belt as did Maresca

Nailed it