[smethwickw]

9 clubs already and he's only 46. 

[gazberg]

9 clubs already and he's only 46. 

As someone previously said he was perfect for Barnsley and vice versa

[Hunnington Baggie]

As this hasn’t been updated, you can guess that he won his last game. 3-2 with 3 penalties between them (Besiktas got 2) and a player sent off.

So 5 games in he has 2 wins, 2 draws and 1 loss, not the most inspiring for what Besiktas SHOULD be doing but better than what they were. Has to overturn a 6 point gap in 3 games to reach Europe… tall order.

[gazberg]

He seems to be suited to an underdog manager type of role. Will be interesting to see what happens

[AlbionFan]

Fans starting to get restless at Besiktas

YAKUP tweeted
Valerien ismael ile Beşiktaş başarılı olamaz.

Translated

Besiktas cannot be successful with Valerien ismael.

[SmethDan]

Fans starting to get restless at Besiktas

YAKUP tweeted
Valerien ismael ile Beşiktaş başarılı olamaz.

Translated

Besiktas cannot be successful with Valerien ismael.

They haven't been happy for a while now.

[WBAinDEVON]

Started well, top of the league after 4 games

[gazberg]

Started well, top of the league after 4 games

Someone on Twitter said he's playing a new formation now. Not checked it myself.

[SmethDan]

Started well, top of the league after 4 games

Where are they placed in the XG League though..........

[skyclad99]

Started well, top of the league after 4 games

From memory so were we last year.....

[Dan]

I think with the right players he could be very successful, the football is brutal but if you give him players who can press and a decent finisher he'll do well.

Problem he had with us is a team largely woefully unsuited to playing pressing football (although they managed it well for a few games) and a complete absence of any striking ability. Give him a half decent striker instead of Hugill and I don't think it'd have ended like it did.

[WBArgo]

From memory so were we last year.....

Yes, if his style is the same then it's simply unsustainable for a full season.

[alex1]

Won again today. Besiktas top of the Turkish League.

[liverbaggie]

Been there done that got the tee shirt haven't we?
Question is, for how long?

[Hull Baggie]

Someone on Twitter said he's playing a new formation now. Not checked it myself.

according to sofascore he's playing either 4-2-3-1 (3 times) or 4-1-4-1 (twice).

https://www.sofascore.com/team/football/besiktas-jk/3050

[gazberg]

according to sofascore he's playing either 4-2-3-1 (3 times) or 4-1-4-1 (twice).

https://www.sofascore.com/team/football/besiktas-jk/3050

Nice to see some flexibility, it's all we asked for.

[Hull Baggie]

Nice to see some flexibility, it's all we asked for.

I know, his inflexibility led to his downfall (as well as the players downing tools)

[gazberg]

I know, his inflexibility led to his downfall (as well as the players downing tools)

I wanted him out quicker than it took but only because he refused to change, i said at the time if he changes things he can make it work still.

The players should not have downed tools but everyone could see the club was just collectively banging it's head against a brick wall.

Looks like he has learnt a valuable lesson which is good, i don't wish him harm at all.

[gazberg]

krem KONUR
@Ekremkonur

🚨Besiktas manager Valérien Ismaël could be sacked.



Whats going on here? They are 5th

[skyclad99]

It’s probably a rerun of our season last year, after a promising start, their fans eyes have started to bleed as well and realisation has hit them.....

[gazberg]

It’s probably a rerun of our season last year, after a promising start, their fans eyes have started to bleed as well and realisation has hit them.....

That happened after a few games and then he changed tactics and getting results a while back.

Maybe they expect higher than 5th? I don't know, i don't follow them

[skyclad99]

That happened after a few games and then he changed tactics and getting results a while back.

Maybe they expect higher than 5th? I don't know, i don't follow them

I certainly think Besiktas expect to be higher than 5th...

[gazberg]

I certainly think Besiktas expect to be higher than 5th...

That's fair then. I guess they expect 3rd or whatever to get in euro tournaments.

[AlbionFan]

If he is removed, he’s making a tidy living out of being sacked 

[gazberg]

If he is removed, he’s making a tidy living out of being sacked 

The next Steve Bruce