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Re: Valérien Ismaël leaves WBA
« Reply #4675 on: March 28, 2022, 06:45:26 PM »
With him now finding a new employer, presumably that will save us some of the compensation bill.

Besiktas are currently mid-table (8th out of 20) in the Turkish Super League so will be interesting to see whether they progress or not.
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Re: Valérien Ismaël leaves WBA
« Reply #4676 on: March 28, 2022, 08:20:21 PM »
I wish him no ill but I don't rate him. Of course, time will tell.

Personally I think he was too stubborn to last long in the game and won't do too much in management.

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« Reply #4677 on: March 28, 2022, 11:26:30 PM »
With him now finding a new employer, presumably that will save us some of the compensation bill.

Besiktas are currently mid-table (8th out of 20) in the Turkish Super League so will be interesting to see whether they progress or not.

I would have thought we get some compensation given he was under contract to us and in a well run club should have been put on gardening leave until someone gave him his next job.

However, as it is we probably paid off the day before he took his new job, knowing that he was about to get the new job.

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« Reply #4678 on: March 29, 2022, 12:47:51 PM »
With him now finding a new employer, presumably that will save us some of the compensation bill.

Besiktas are currently mid-table (8th out of 20) in the Turkish Super League so will be interesting to see whether they progress or not.

I very much doubt that Alex. Compensation will have been agreed at the time of termination. I can see no grounds for him giving some of it back.

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« Reply #4679 on: March 29, 2022, 10:43:32 PM »
The whole point of putting him on gardening leave is to get something from the club that next employs him.

It could be that he had a Bilic like term in his contract that his contract be paid up in a certain amount of days should he be sacked, but I doubt it given the difference is stature and bargaining positions of the 2 of them.

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« Reply #4680 on: March 30, 2022, 06:50:15 AM »
We will probably never know, but it's possible we had a break clause in the contract at the end of this season so have only had to pay up to that point. The other possibility is that we were still paying Ismael and now he has moved on those payments have ended. Who knows.
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Re: Valérien Ismaël leaves WBA
« Reply #4683 on: March 31, 2022, 12:39:19 PM »

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« Reply #4684 on: March 31, 2022, 02:24:16 PM »
If youre going to get told off, get told off for doing something not for doing nothing..

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« Reply #4685 on: April 04, 2022, 12:08:01 AM »
Off to a decent start with Besiktas who picked up a 1-1 draw away at league leaders Trabzonspor.
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« Reply #4686 on: April 10, 2022, 03:45:37 PM »
Just to lighten things up, 2nd game in charge and 4-1 victory home to 6th placed Alanyspor. Maybe doesn't need Dike!
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« Reply #4687 on: April 11, 2022, 11:29:17 AM »
Off to a decent start with Besiktas who picked up a 1-1 draw away at league leaders Trabzonspor.

We were unbeaten in the first 10 games. remember?
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« Reply #4688 on: April 18, 2022, 02:01:43 PM »
Got shut out in his 3rd game in charge yesterday. Local journos asking what solution will he bring when teams play Besiktas and just shut up shop.

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« Reply #4689 on: April 18, 2022, 02:21:46 PM »
Got shut out in his 3rd game in charge yesterday. Local journos asking what solution will he bring when teams play Besiktas and just shut up shop.
Looking at the stats - 69% possession and 14 shots. Sounds familiar. I guess you need a special player or two to play that way.

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« Reply #4690 on: April 18, 2022, 02:50:12 PM »
Looking at the stats - 69% possession and 14 shots. Sounds familiar. I guess you need a special player or two to play that way.

Val certainly needs better players no matter how good his squad is.

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« Reply #4691 on: April 18, 2022, 04:10:36 PM »
I think he is too stubborn and arrogant in his system. He thinks that it should work, like it's a simulation rather than a game played by humans. Though if he goes on to bigger and better things, fair play to him. Though I think he needs to adapt.

Then again he might just be a continental Pulis.
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« Reply #4692 on: April 20, 2022, 06:45:31 PM »
Rumour is he is signing Jed Wallace from Millwall on a free.

Makes you think if he wanted him for us but was already stuck with what we had in Jan.

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« Reply #4693 on: April 21, 2022, 07:29:57 AM »
we should have seen the season out with him, we have worse now
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« Reply #4694 on: April 21, 2022, 12:52:27 PM »
Rumour is he is signing Jed Wallace from Millwall on a free.

Makes you think if he wanted him for us but was already stuck with what we had in Jan.
Jed Wallace is just the sort of player we need. Runs with the ball, creative, sets up chances. I wonder if a move was blocked by the club or whether Wallace didn't fancy it?
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« Reply #4695 on: April 25, 2022, 09:55:07 PM »
Besiktas fans had enough already, calling for Val's head. Lost 3-0 at home tonight. Couple of subs in the 62nd minute and no goals scored. Deja vu

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« Reply #4696 on: April 26, 2022, 08:05:04 AM »
Besiktas fans had enough already, calling for Val's head. Lost 3-0 at home tonight. Couple of subs in the 62nd minute and no goals scored. Deja vu

Yeah, but what was their Xg though  ;D ?
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« Reply #4697 on: April 26, 2022, 12:52:54 PM »
Yeah, but what was their Xg though  ;D ?

 ;D

I didn't want to go there. By the sounds of it they have given him a decent contract as some Besiktas fans on Twitter are saying pay him off no matter what it costs before he ruins the club.

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« Reply #4698 on: April 26, 2022, 12:58:24 PM »
;D

I didn't want to go there. By the sounds of it they have given him a decent contract as some Besiktas fans on Twitter are saying pay him off no matter what it costs before he ruins the club.

Sounds like there fans are even more fickle than some of ours, it's his first defeat since he took over.
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Re: Valérien Ismaël leaves WBA
« Reply #4699 on: April 26, 2022, 01:01:40 PM »
Sounds like there fans are even more fickle than some of ours, it's his first defeat since he took over.

Think they have spotted the issues repeating themselves again. Not won many either to be fair.