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« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2020, 05:02:34 PM »
Bundesliga to resume first week in May behind closed doors.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/sports/germany-soccer-coronavirus.html

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« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2020, 06:30:01 PM »
Bundesliga back on ther 9th May! Just finalizing details. Behind closed doors of course.
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« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2020, 08:47:02 PM »
Bundesliga back on ther 9th May! Just finalizing details. Behind closed doors of course.
Didn't think it had been finalised yet, as didn't even get a mention from Merkel last week in her speech announcing which controls across the economy would be relaxed.
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« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2020, 10:39:15 PM »
Just finalizing the minor details with the German medical authority apparently and then it's game on.

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« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2020, 12:56:17 PM »
Have to get me Werder Bremen “We 8 Wolfsburg” shirt out then
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« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2020, 01:06:46 PM »
Still no final decision on whether the Bundesliga will start up again in May behind closed doors. But some fans are getting ready. See clip of Borussia Monchengladbach fans putting cardboard cut-outs in place (good material for banter from opposing fans  ;D)

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52379825
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« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2020, 06:14:36 PM »
 More from the New York Times on Frecnch Football's decsion to end the season. Only not really French football's decision

France’s Prime Minister Shut Down Soccer. That Surprised Teams Restarting.
France is the first of Europe’s big five soccer leagues to declare the season over. Now, its clubs are facing the financial consequences.


French soccer is finished for the season, the prime minister announced.
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Francois Walschaerts/Reuters
By Tariq Panja
April 29, 2020, 10:56 a.m. ET



At their board meeting on Friday, the decision makers of France’s top professional soccer league were making plans for the resumption of their competition: plans for safety protocols, training schedules and possible dates for when the first games could be played.
The talks were similar to those among executives of the other top European leagues. In Germany, players are already on the practice field. Spain has devised a hygiene plan for players and staff. In England and Italy, tentative moves are being made for a return, too.
But then, on Monday night, the planning in France was brought to an abrupt halt by a declaration by the prime minister, Édouard Philippe. The French soccer season, the prime minister announced, was over. Not paused like the others, but over.
The announcement sent shock waves across French soccer, with team owners and league officials struggling to figure out what it meant. The financial impact of not finishing the season would be crippling for teams in France, just as it would be elsewhere. League officials across Europe are warning about bankruptcies and financial carnage across the sporting landscape if television contracts that underpin their competitions are unable to be fulfilled.

So with a huge amount of anxiety, a group of executives from some of France’s leading teams joined in a conference call with the sports minister, Roxana Maracineanu, shortly after Philippe’s address.

Maracineanu, according to Bernard Caiazzo, who heads a group representing Ligue 1 clubs, said the government would offer support to clubs from the hugely damaging effects of not playing.

The government, Caiazzo said by telephone, would guarantee up to 90 percent of emergency loans the league is trying to secure from banks, a measure that is also being considered by the German league even though it is on course to be the first top division league to start playing again.

(The French league is talking to banks about a 200 million euro bridging loan, or about $217 million, to replace the final payment for the season that has been withheld by its broadcast partners since games were suspended in March.)
Social charges, a 40 percent tax on players’ salaries, may also be temporarily waived, he said. Clubs also have the option of agreeing to a 70 percent payment deferral with their athletes, which would go a long way toward alleviating some of the immediate pain, since players’ salaries are the most expensive item on teams’ balance sheets.

“I use the example of someone losing blood, even a little bit all the time: In the end he is going to die,” said Caiazzo, who also owns the top division team Saint-Étienne. “We need a blood transfusion, and the government said we will give it to you.”

Still, the sudden change in direction leaves much in the air. For example, it’s unclear whether France will crown a league champion this year — Paris Saint-Germain led the standings by 12 points when the season was stopped with 11 games to go — or whether teams will be promoted or relegated between the top two divisions.
The prime minister’s choice of declaring the league over has also led to confusion and surprise.
On a call with the league on Friday, the French soccer federation told the league to refine preparations to get players back practicing, telling officials that all that was now required was a final signoff from the government. By Tuesday, everything had changed.

“The 2019-20 season of professional sports, including football, will not be able to resume,” the prime minister told parliament.
Some club executives questioned why the prime minister did not limit his comments to when games could be played, rather than say the season was over. Jean-Michel Aulas, who as the owner of Olympique Lyonnais is one of the most powerful figures in French soccer, said he hoped that a playoff could be arranged to work out the final standings before the new season commenced.
Paris St.-Germain officials were said to be furious with the decision and have tried to contact the prime minister’s office for clarification.
Still, some clubs are more comfortable with the season being over than others, and the reason is money. The majority of the last portion of the current television contract was supposed to be paid to the clubs that had the largest television exposure. Moving straight to the next season would unlock a new domestic broadcast contract of a billion euros.

An emergency board meeting has been scheduled for Thursday, when the league will try to make a decision on its next steps, including whether to declare the 2019-20 season annulled and whether to declare a final classification based on the current standings. UEFA, European soccer’s governing body, said entrance to its competitions, like the Champions League, must be determined by sporting merit.
Only time will tell, Caiazzo said, whether the French prime minister made the right call.
“There are two hypotheses,” he said. “The first one, that the Germans, the Spanish, Italians and English start and they play and finish their championships, get money for TV — and everyone will say, ‘The French, they are completely stupid.’
“Or you have a problem in those countries, the virus comes back and some teams, they cannot play because of virus, and it’s a big mess and people will say, ‘The French were right, we made a mistake.’”
For now, and based on the constantly evolving prognosis for the containment of the coronavirus, the plan is to start the new French season without fans in August, before opening up stadiums in September. Whether that will happen remains, as most things right now, up in the air, Caiazzo said.
“They are in a labyrinth,” he said. “And they have doors which they are opening and closing: Nobody knows the end of this story.”


This horribly complicated. I do think that restart with fans in September is looking optimistic.
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« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2020, 06:22:04 PM »
It's usually the French government who surrender first to be fair!!
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« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2020, 06:29:55 PM »
The noises coming from government make me believe that it will be almost impossible for football or most other sports to be played in front of crowds until 2021
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« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2020, 01:41:06 PM »
All 20 Serie A clubs vote to complete season despite COVID19.

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« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2020, 03:41:05 PM »
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11881/11983005/coronavirus-10-positive-tests-across-bundesliga-1-and-2


Top 2 flights back and 10 players found to have COVID19 from over 1700 tests. They have now been placed into quarantine and everything else carries on as normal.

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« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2020, 04:28:20 PM »
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11881/11983005/coronavirus-10-positive-tests-across-bundesliga-1-and-2


Top 2 flights back and 10 players found to have COVID19 from over 1700 tests. They have now been placed into quarantine and everything else carries on as normal.


Sensible. Treat it like an injury.
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« Reply #37 on: May 05, 2020, 12:14:03 PM »
10 positive tests  from 1700 implies an infection rate of 0.5% in a population which has been in lockdown for 6 weeks. I don't know if that is good news or bad. On the plus side the players can be reasonably confident that the other players they are competing against aren't infected and given careful management and close medical supervision the players aren't taking an unnecessary risk.

On the negative side that implies in a crowd 30,000 that is 150 active cases (I am assuming the players were asymptomatic) and with a an R (i.e. transmission rate) of just 3 that is enough to infect more than the entire crowd by a 6th unchecked iteration. In short crowds won't be back in Germany or anywhere else for that matter anytime soon.


 
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« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2020, 12:20:36 PM »
Bundesliga first games are in the 15th so that's next weekend. Will be nice to watch some competitive football I don't know already the know final score of.

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« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2020, 04:12:03 PM »
Saloman Kalou, ex-Chelsea, won't be appearing for Hertha Berlin for a while. Caught on video messing around during the Covid testing procedure, and now suspended.
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« Reply #40 on: May 05, 2020, 04:12:43 PM »
Saloman Kalou, ex-Chelsea, won't be appearing for Hertha Berlin for a while. Caught on video messing around during the Covid testing procedure, and now suspended.


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« Reply #41 on: May 06, 2020, 09:35:47 AM »
Bundesliga opening put back a week on the instruction of the Federal Government.
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« Reply #42 on: May 06, 2020, 12:03:23 PM »
Bundesliga opening put back a week on the instruction of the Federal Government.

10 positive Corona tests from 1723 players according to the Telegraph.
Be interesting to see how this pans out.
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« Reply #43 on: May 06, 2020, 12:17:11 PM »
Re Germany. Read on Twitter they have walked back the decision and will go ahead as planned 15th May.
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« Reply #44 on: May 07, 2020, 02:33:31 PM »
Re Germany. Read on Twitter they have walked back the decision and will go ahead as planned 15th May.
According to BBC it will resume on Saturday 16th May.

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« Reply #45 on: May 11, 2020, 01:35:47 PM »
Borussia Dortmund vs Schalke this weekend, 2pm on BT Sports. I.AM.THERE.

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« Reply #46 on: May 11, 2020, 01:43:27 PM »
Borussia Dortmund vs Schalke this weekend, 2pm on BT Sports. I.AM.THERE.

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« Reply #47 on: May 11, 2020, 01:51:23 PM »
Won't half! I've got no idea what they are doing regarding artifical crowd noise etc do you? I know it was poo-poo'd here and i agree with that.

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« Reply #48 on: May 11, 2020, 02:03:26 PM »
Won't half! I've got no idea what they are doing regarding artifical crowd noise etc do you? I know it was poo-poo'd here and i agree with that.

Not sure which club(s) but there's at least one in Germany that's letting supporters pay for cardboard cut outs of themselves to be displayed in the stands  ;D . Wouldn't surprise me in the least if they played crowd noises over the tannoy, although this may tempt locals to turn up for a listen.
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« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2020, 04:18:16 PM »
Not sure which club(s) but there's at least one in Germany that's letting supporters pay for cardboard cut outs of themselves to be displayed in the stands  ;D . Wouldn't surprise me in the least if they played crowd noises over the tannoy, although this may tempt locals to turn up for a listen.
That will be Borussia Moenchengladbach, who I'll be supporting, having been to their ground several times. 
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52379825
Can't be great to be building a reputation as a club for cardboard cutout fans though.
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