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Re: Ben Foster
« Reply #2375 on: March 04, 2015, 09:08:36 AM »
You've missed the extremely ill-advised and insincere kissing emojis he used at the end of his tweet.

I'm still livid to be honest. Serious question - is this guy actually a Villa fan? It's not the first time he's done something like this against them, for us and for Blues.

Probably the most embarrassing goalkeeping performance I've ever seen. Carson got dog's abuse and never sunk to the catastrophic levels that Foster somehow reached last night. He's been in decline for a while now and needs to be dropped - command of his area and distribution in particular are quite frankly embarrassing for a supposed international standard goalkeeper.

If he starts on Saturday it's a disgrace to be honest and I will lose a bit of respect for Pulis if he keeps him in there to throw another game down the drain.

That's where man management comes into play. Some players react well when being dropped, whereas others need a cuddle and to be told they're ace. Pulis will keep an eye on him and decide whether to drop him or to back him in the cup game.

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« Reply #2376 on: March 04, 2015, 09:25:29 AM »
That's where man management comes into play. Some players react well when being dropped, whereas others need a cuddle and to be told they're ace. Pulis will keep an eye on him and decide whether to drop him or to back him in the cup game.

You're spot on! Having slept on it I can be more objective now, I think Foster will be given the chance to redeem himself on Saturday. TP will leave him in no doubt as to what he thinks but I think he'll give him the chance.

As we all know he had a rotten game, clearly the early spill sent him into a tailspin from which he never recovered.

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« Reply #2377 on: March 04, 2015, 09:31:48 AM »
Foster has been average for the last two seasons and last nights performance has been on the cards for a while, I've said before Myhill is as good as he is and shouldn't have been dropped as soon as Foster was fit from injury last season as it sends the wrong message imo

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« Reply #2378 on: March 04, 2015, 09:33:47 AM »
You're spot on! Having slept on it I can be more objective now, I think Foster will be given the chance to redeem himself on Saturday. TP will leave him in no doubt as to what he thinks but I think he'll give him the chance.

As we all know he had a rotten game, clearly the early spill sent him into a tailspin from which he never recovered.

I dont think we can take the risk. It was just nerves with Foster, you could see how the early fumble affected him and he dropped/spilled nearly everything even when there was nobody near him. The pressure on that first cross/shot on Saturday will already be playing in his mind this morning.

Fosters a great goalie at our level and should still be our Number 1, but Myhills a perfectly good PL level keeper and wont let us down on Saturday. Take Foster out and give him a couple of weeks break. Another bad performance now would have far more long term consequences than being dropped for 2 weeks would.

As I say, if this was QPR away I'd probably keep Foster in, but same team, same ground just 4 days later in a huge game and I'd play Myhill

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« Reply #2379 on: March 04, 2015, 09:40:42 AM »
Id say he has won us three times as many points as he has given away in his albion career. Shame most people choose to remember the mistakes

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« Reply #2380 on: March 04, 2015, 09:46:48 AM »
Foster is a class goalkeeper, we are lucky to have him.  Last night was a horrific performance, Carson esc, but these things happen from time to time.  Even the best keepers have off days.  The impressive thing about Foster is he never lets a mistake damage his confidence, he seems to return better after a mistake.  Some of the stuff being directed at him is embarrassing.
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« Reply #2381 on: March 04, 2015, 09:57:39 AM »
His game hasn't been right for a number of weeks, I think he needs to get back to basics with the coaching staff ie. catching and kicking.
That said he's still our number 1 keeper and if we look back at some of the exemplory performances he's put in we should look beyond last night and realise we have the best keeper we could possibly hope to attract.
If the coaching staff thinks he needs taking out of the firing line then I'm sure Myhill will equip himself wellWe shouldn't pillory Foster over last nights performance no matter how much it hurts.
Foster will know he messed up and he will know he needs to put it right.
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« Reply #2382 on: March 04, 2015, 10:04:54 AM »
Ben seemed really pumped up for the game last night... Probably too much as it affected his decision making and he had a bad game. He needs to calm it down for Saturday. As for dropping him... can't see it, he's still the best we got.

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« Reply #2383 on: March 04, 2015, 10:11:16 AM »
Id say he has won us three times as many points as he has given away in his albion career. Shame most people choose to remember the mistakes

whilst i agree with what you say here and that overall Foster is in credit i very much doubt that stat will stand up over the last couple of seasons and definitely not this season. Last night was more than just a bad day at the office. It was a truly awful performance from start to finish and not the only shocker of the season - outfield players have been dropped for far less.

However bad Foster was we should not let that deflect attention from a dismal show overall, there was only Fletcher that performed at anything like the required level. The other three midfield players were terrible, Brunt had a shocker, Lescott in first half might as well  have been playing up front with Benteke, GM well below par and both strikers well offte pace (injuries off some mitigation and Saido was much better second half). 1 out of ten for the manager too!!

Im still seething at the overall performance and even more at the way we coughed up a point at the end - regardless of the fact that we deserved nothing. Am not looking forward to Saturday at all.

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« Reply #2384 on: March 04, 2015, 10:12:22 AM »
I really hope he comes out on Saturday and gives the performance of his life, just to see the 'Drop for Myhill' brigade have their heads drop.

Foster is the best keeper we've had for the best part of 30 years and we want to drop him for a good but average keeper in Myhill, ridiculous.

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« Reply #2385 on: March 04, 2015, 10:23:54 AM »
Man City dropping Hart for a few games did him no harm. In fact, it made him a better keeper.

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« Reply #2386 on: March 04, 2015, 10:31:35 AM »
I think on balance it's best he's dropped on Saturday. He will either come out with fire in his belly or with his confidence totally shot, I don't think it's worth the risk.

But he is still our best keeper.

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« Reply #2387 on: March 04, 2015, 10:49:10 AM »
It hasn't taken long for the Gould curse to strike

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« Reply #2388 on: March 04, 2015, 10:55:24 AM »
'@BenFoster: Sorry to let the lads and fans down tonight, I love you all


And his pay packet of course, he needs to make up for his poor performance  this coming Saturday , I wouldn't drop him just yet
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« Reply #2389 on: March 04, 2015, 12:17:08 PM »
Personally I think it was harsh to drop Myhill for the West Ham game as he had played in both the Gateshead and Birmingham cup games and hadn't done a lot wrong apart from get injured against city.
I'd play him Saturday he won't let us down.

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« Reply #2390 on: March 04, 2015, 12:26:34 PM »
Went last night & was absolutely seething at Foster's 'rush of blood' at the end, but I think he was just so eager to atone for not catching that he panicked a bit. Totally wrong choice given we'd got Baird there to clear, but that's the type of keeper Ben is. Costly error, not his first & it won't be his last, but anyone suggesting he's not a good keeper? Really? He had a poor game last night & was visibly shaken by his 'let-off' when he just managed to scramble the ball off his own goal-line in the first half, & i think it affected his game thereafter, but all top keepers have a blip now & again. One of the best keepers I ever saw play was Peter Shilton, & I remember having the odd howler, but he always came back better & stronger for it!
Foster's a good keeper, so let's back him! We don't get many players that constantly talk in such a positive light about the club, especially when they've been away with the England squad, but Foster's a Breath of fresh air in that respect, even saying he'd like to end his career with the club. We're not talking Paul Crighton or Scott Carson here, players that just couldn't keep a clean sheet to save their lives, but Ben Foster, who now has 11 this season! Yes, I understand that TP, sets us up defensively & you might argue that he has less to do, but when needed, like at Burnley, he's still a class act!

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« Reply #2391 on: March 04, 2015, 12:27:45 PM »
If it was a league game Foster would be a shoo in for  Pulis however I think he may have brought Myhill in for a cup game. Last night clouds the issue slightly and I believe Pulis will prove his faith in Foster by playing him Saturday. It's that case it could go either way but let's hope he is outstanding or preferably has nothing to do because the team plays better.

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« Reply #2392 on: March 04, 2015, 12:40:11 PM »
Foster is a top keeper and he wins us more points than he loses no doubt about it.

Last night he had a 'mare. Don't know whether the occasion got to him but he was all over the place.

I would pull him out of the side against Villa on Saturday.  The Villa fans will be cheering and jeering his every touch and he'll either fold or rise to the occasion.  We can't afford the former to happen again so I'd go for the steady Myhill.

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« Reply #2393 on: March 04, 2015, 12:51:43 PM »
It's a really difficult one knowing what to do for the best on Saturday. As I said on here late last night in the aftermath, I've seen this performance coming for a few weeks now, Foster hasn't been on the top of his game for a while despite the impressive number of clean sheets. His distribution is awful,the time it seems to take him to make decisions seems very slow, as if he is caught in two minds constantly.
Saying all that, a Goalkeeper is the only position on the pitch where if you make a mistake it invariably leads to it being punished. Defenders, midfielders, forwards can all have nightmare games, make numerous errors, give away silly fouls,etc, but none of which may lead to conceding a goal. A goalkeeping error will always seem to be a lot worse.
With dropping Foster, I just don't know. TP is going to have a big decision to make. If it was any other game I would say without hesitation that he should play. TP will have a couple of days to talk to him, attempt to get his head right and get last night out of his system. I've just got a feeling though that if Foster plays on Saturday, the Villa players and fans will have half the job done for them. He will get so much abuse,get constantly goaded and wound up,I can't see how that will have a positive effect on someone like Foster who appears to be very much a confidence player. He will have what's left of his confidence completely shot to pieces. For us, the club and him personally, I think it may be best for long term prospects that he is taken out of the firing line on Saturday.

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« Reply #2394 on: March 04, 2015, 12:54:23 PM »
He has conflicting interests.

It's no surprise that the two players who it seems are standing out as having 'bad' games (I.e. Foster and Lescott) are both villa fans.

I'm not saying they did it deliberately but I'm sure neither gave 100% towards the game.

Foster is a good keeper however he has no worries about his position, myhill has already said he's happy being number two, so what incentive has foster got?

In the summer we need to ship out myhill and get in a keeper to challenge for the number on short.

Then I believe we will see a massive improvement in foster.

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« Reply #2395 on: March 04, 2015, 12:57:39 PM »
Take him out of the firing line for the cup game, if he has another mare it will have far more long term effect. Playing him will give the Villa players and fans a common target from the off and the first errant kick or fumble will put our entire team, and fans, on edge.
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« Reply #2396 on: March 04, 2015, 12:58:46 PM »
Foster is a class goalkeeper, we are lucky to have him.  Last night was a horrific performance, Carson esc, but these things happen from time to time.  Even the best keepers have off days.  The impressive thing about Foster is he never lets a mistake damage his confidence, he seems to return better after a mistake.  Some of the stuff being directed at him is embarrassing.

The confidence is why he is better than Carson. Carson was not a bad shot stopped at all, and in form was a very good keeper, but he had a weaker character than Ben. You see Ben nearly get caught out at times or kick badly and he stands there grinning or laughing about it, he gets its a mistake and it happens and he seems to be able to move past it. Carson would look like he was going to cry it would effect him for weeks, rather than just minutes or even a game.

I'd throw him back in to be honest. When he was injured and he came back straight back in, it was a joke, but In this circumstance I think he should get back on the horse.

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« Reply #2397 on: March 04, 2015, 01:01:43 PM »
Foster is a top keeper and he wins us more points than he loses no doubt about it.

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« Reply #2398 on: March 04, 2015, 01:04:11 PM »
He has conflicting interests.

It's no surprise that the two players who it seems are standing out as having 'bad' games (I.e. Foster and Lescott) are both villa fans.

I'm not saying they did it deliberately but I'm sure neither gave 100% towards the game.

Foster is a good keeper however he has no worries about his position, myhill has already said he's happy being number two, so what incentive has foster got?

In the summer we need to ship out myhill and get in a keeper to challenge for the number on short.

Then I believe we will see a massive improvement in foster.
Sorry but just not having this are you seriously saying that these two played badly because they support Villa?? If so then they should be sacked not dropped!
Lescott has scored more goals against Villa than any other team and Foster kept a clean sheet in the home game.
Gardner was equally poor but supports Blues apparently so would have wanted to win more than anyone.
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« Reply #2399 on: March 04, 2015, 01:09:25 PM »
He is clearly the best keeper that we have had up the Albion in many, many years! 

OK he had a bad game, and it was an absolute stinker and it was against our rivals but how many times has he saved us!  How many clean sheets has he had recently. 

I hope that he plays on Saturday and has a blinder. 

The reason that Myhill was dropped when Foster became fit was because he is our number one.  Boaz knows this, and should understand.

Some of the stick that Foster is getting is absolutely ridiculous. 

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