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Re: Alan Irvine sacked by Albion
« Reply #4125 on: November 29, 2014, 02:54:38 PM »
Over 5 hours since Albion's last league goal. That was an OG. Exactly 6 hours since the last from a Baggies player.

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« Reply #4126 on: November 29, 2014, 02:57:04 PM »
The villa will be my last home game until he's gone. I will still go away because the atmosphere amongst supporters is better, more enjoyable
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Re: Alan Irvine sacked by Albion
« Reply #4127 on: November 29, 2014, 03:00:01 PM »
We have got to start showing intent to try and win our home games. At least give it a go.

Am not and never will be a Neil Warnock fan, but we need the "have a go" attitude of whatever sides he puts out.  Passion is needed.

No width.  No pace.  Where are our new summer signings?

If Irvine is happy setting us up to play like this in the first half, then we will be in the Championship next season I'm afraid. 

And if we somehow stay up then we won't be getting gates of 25k to watch dross like this.

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Re: Alan Irvine sacked by Albion
« Reply #4128 on: November 29, 2014, 03:03:58 PM »
How on earth is this man still in a job at West Bromwich Albion?

1. He has absolutely no intent on winning games with his selections.
2. His ability to affect a game is zero, just look at his substitutions.
3. We have not scored in 7 of our 16 games this season... (9 out of 16 if you include OGs)
4. Currently on a run in which we have not scored in 270 mins of football.... (450 mins if you include OGs)
5. No tactical awareness.
6. His brand of football is Dull,dull,dull. Bearable if your doing well, but we're not.

Apparently, though, he's a good bloke & coach  :-\

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Re: Alan Irvine sacked by Albion
« Reply #4129 on: November 29, 2014, 03:08:41 PM »
Burton needs to go with him for recommending the appointment, along with Downing and Kiely who should have been let go of a long time ago.

Sacking Alan Irvine will  not solve the problem.  Who ever comes in will have a hard time if his philosophy conflicts with those who have the established power base at the club. Peace is a business man, who does he listen to?  What kind of risk is acceptable? Perhaps if Irvine replaced Downing?  I certainly can't see a quick fix to this situation and trying to bring in another head coach/patsy will prove difficult with the current set up only someone desperate would risk his reputation on a hiding to nothing.
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« Reply #4130 on: November 29, 2014, 03:19:20 PM »
Sacking Alan Irvine will  not solve the problem.  Who ever comes in will have a hard time if his philosophy conflicts with those who have the established power base at the club. Peace is a business man, who does he listen to?  What kind of risk is acceptable? Perhaps if Irvine replaced Downing?  I certainly can't see a quick fix to this situation and trying to bring in another head coach/patsy will prove difficult with the current set up only someone desperate would risk his reputation on a hiding to nothing.
We might get someone who has a go at teams , uses a squad and isn't fully out of his depth.
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« Reply #4131 on: November 29, 2014, 03:19:47 PM »
The villa will be my last home game until he's gone. I will still go away because the atmosphere amongst supporters is better, more enjoyable
did notice devon more and more empty seats appearing at the home games, two of them were mine ,made the choice after the Newcastle game to stay away till theres something worth spending £100 on. pisses me of to do it but travelling from north wales and watching your team have no attacking intent is just a waste of time and money, fair play to those that go but can see gates falling if he stays and keeps playing this rubbish football.

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« Reply #4132 on: November 29, 2014, 03:23:28 PM »
Its not just Irvine who needs to go. The other failed coaches should go with him, in fact two of them they should have gone a long time a go. A clean sweep was needed when Clarke went

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« Reply #4133 on: November 29, 2014, 03:25:40 PM »
I never like losing, but I would rather lose 2-0 by having a go showing attacking intent and causing teams problems rather than sitting back and hoping something will happen and we'll find a goal from somewhere.
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« Reply #4134 on: November 29, 2014, 03:27:30 PM »
We might get someone who has a go at teams , uses a squad and isn't fully out of his depth.

Like Mel? I would like to believe it is as simple as you say but I do not think it is humanly possible for one personality to do the job. The Chelski manager is not going to leave for us and I do not believe under the current system he would even get the job...
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« Reply #4135 on: November 29, 2014, 03:28:42 PM »
It's hoped that next game(vs West Ham) will be Alan's last chance,if we lose again,sack him please.
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Re: Alan Irvine sacked by Albion
« Reply #4136 on: November 29, 2014, 03:33:15 PM »
The result for me today has made me officially turn on him now.

Newcastle game was the same. Just waiting for the opposition to score and then do something about it.
Crystal Palace game, Was the same again just waiting for the opposition to score.

More importantly, when is he going to change the side. Every premier league game he has tried to put the same 11 players on the pitch when more than likely, Teams have sussed us out, Theres no expansion or trickery in our play its just so one dimensional and boring to watch. What has Ideye, Blanco and most importantly Varela got to do to get a game, Varelas been fit for 2 weeks apparently. Hes created one goal even when he was carrying an injury. So why not put him on?!

I honestly thought Irvine would do okay and maybe change the way he normally plays just a little bit. But no hes just another stubborn dinosaur who thinks his way is the right way and if he carries on with the way he is going then he isn't going to be here long and god help us.
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« Reply #4137 on: November 29, 2014, 03:33:25 PM »
He's so predictable.

That's my main worry.

At this stage id take steve Clarke back. That's how bad it is at the minute.

Mr Clark thought Mr Irvin got it about right in everything today Well mr Clark Mr Irvin will go the same way has you went & for playing the same way you did rubbish BORING FOOTBALL

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« Reply #4138 on: November 29, 2014, 03:36:34 PM »
Like Mel? I would like to believe it is as simple as you say but I do not think it is humanly possible for one personality to do the job. The Chelski manager is not going to leave for us and I do not believe under the current system he would even get the job...
It is simple , you turn up and have a damn good go against whoever you play, the least i expect . I could just about accept Irvine's style if we had some spells of exciting play each game and genuine goal threat or picking points up at a decent rate.Seems a nice bloke but clearly out of his depth with his dinosaur , narrow , boring football.
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Re: Alan Irvine sacked by Albion
« Reply #4139 on: November 29, 2014, 03:37:33 PM »
It's hoped that next game(vs West Ham) will be Alan's last chance,if we lose again,sack him please.

I disagree.

Please sack him now and put us out of this misery!
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Re: Alan Irvine sacked by Albion
« Reply #4140 on: November 29, 2014, 03:40:08 PM »
Lets face it he isnt going to get sacked anytime soon.

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Re: Alan Irvine sacked by Albion
« Reply #4141 on: November 29, 2014, 03:41:28 PM »
Lets face it he isnt going to get sacked anytime soon.
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Re: Alan Irvine sacked by Albion
« Reply #4142 on: November 29, 2014, 03:42:35 PM »
Terrible, negative, lackluster and soulless football - please no more! Do the right thing Jeremy, he's slowly sucking the life from the club.

I sadly agree.

He works hard, he's apparently a good coach and yet still he has no clue how to attack. It's a real puzzle. I can't for the life of me understand how he doesn't see the problem.

We need to lose him soon.

Only 5 points minimum in the next 3 matches saves his bacon.
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« Reply #4143 on: November 29, 2014, 03:45:51 PM »
He's had his chance. He plays dreadful, unimaginative and naive football. I have supported him to date but today is the day i say IRVINE OUT.  The other constant with each of our underperforming managers is the coaches. They need moving on too.

We need to appoint a proper proven manager and let him bring his own coaching team in too.
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Re: Alan Irvine sacked by Albion
« Reply #4144 on: November 29, 2014, 03:46:07 PM »
It is simple , you turn up and have a damn good go against whoever you play, the least i expect . I could just about accept Irvine's style if we had some spells of exciting play each game and genuine goal threat or picking points up at a decent rate.Seems a nice bloke but clearly out of his depth with his dinosaur , narrow , boring football.
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« Reply #4145 on: November 29, 2014, 03:49:00 PM »
Perhaps you are used to having plenty to say and everyone agreeing with you at work? In some jobs you have to toe the line if you want to survive.  Even if you do try to argue your case you might not be listened to. Or you might be listened to but ignored. Ever heard of a clique?

You need a strong man. Pulis would dismantle any cliques.
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« Reply #4146 on: November 29, 2014, 03:50:43 PM »
Ever heard of a clique?
Yes, it's what did for Pepe Mel, but let's not go over that yet again. However, what a shame that Pepe wasn't here for the pre-season and could hsape his squad with his choice of coaches, rather than the spineless and clueless bunch we've ended up with.

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« Reply #4147 on: November 29, 2014, 03:51:31 PM »
You need a strong man. Pulis would dismantle any cliques.

I dont want Pulis, however I would take him over Irvine any day of the week.
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« Reply #4148 on: November 29, 2014, 03:51:55 PM »
You need a strong man. Pulis would dismantle any cliques.

He's a self serving prick. Look how he left Palace in the mire after giving the board an ultimatum. I don't have a better name, but short of Sherwood I'd hate having him with us.
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Re: Alan Irvine sacked by Albion
« Reply #4149 on: November 29, 2014, 03:52:25 PM »
He's not going to be sacked for losing to Chelsea, Arsenal, and in form Newcastle. I get the feeling the club has had enough of sacking managers (unsurprisingly given it takes us ages to get one in) and Irvine is here till the bitter end. He'll get the season. If we stay up, he'll start next season too.

We didn't end up with Irvine in the first place because we had a tonne of decent options to choose from. The club has a very restrictive structure and no one will work under it seeing that every single manager we have keeps failing miserably at it. We loosened those restrictions for Hodgson, he signed players he wanted, not ones we thought he should have wanted, and unsurprisingly he was easily our best manager.

The club's problems go far deeper than Irvine, sacking him won't change the problems we'll just end up with another coach no one wants.

There's a reason the club keeps taking longer and longer to get a head coach each time we sack one. No one who's got any ounce of ability will work under these conditions. The only other club working to this style religiously is Spurs and they have the same problem of managers unable to fit in, and terrible signings.