Author Topic: Clarke vs Brunt (Read 10964 times)

beechyboy90 · « **on:** September 03, 2013, 04:40:39 PM »

what has happend to brunt!
all 3 games in the league this season have been crying out for brunt.
at everton we were in the game and we couldnt keep hold of the ball and he could and should have brought brunt on yet decided to go with vydra and we found ourselves even further under the kosh....

against swansea again for me brunt should have started, rather play a midfielder on the wing then shane long.... even so when towards the end of the game when we were going for it he decided to opt for the kid and the berg...and putting anelka in midfield. we still looked tootheless going forward and it just gifted the game swansea

we havent scored any goals, this is mainly due to the fact we arent creating chances. any coincidence that the best crosser of the ball and our leading assist maker is nowhere to be seen.

has clarke fallen out with him?

Mister AT · « **Reply #1 on:** September 03, 2013, 04:49:05 PM »

I did think this myself, wondered why Brunt wasnt featuring this season, especially as hes still 'club captain'.

He has his negatives but the boy does create a lot of chances for us, as the stats show hes usually the leading assist player in the team each year.

Does begger belief.

Baggie Artist · « **Reply #2 on:** September 03, 2013, 05:08:00 PM »

Nothing unusual, lots of people wanted him dropped last season and Clarke has merely obliged.

saml30 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 03, 2013, 05:11:51 PM »

Quote from: Baggie Artist on September 03, 2013, 05:08:00 PM

Nothing unusual, lots of people wanted him dropped last season and Clarke has merely obliged.

is it a case of don't know what you've got until its gone?

charliemike · « **Reply #4 on:** September 03, 2013, 05:29:13 PM »

Off topic admin sorry . Can someone confirm whats happened to tamas . Can't find news anywhere.

Legend · « **Reply #5 on:** September 03, 2013, 05:32:04 PM »

Clarke wins in 6th round by KO.

OldburyWBA · « **Reply #6 on:** September 03, 2013, 05:32:57 PM »

Quote from: charliemike on September 03, 2013, 05:29:13 PM

Off topic admin sorry . Can someone confirm whats happened to tamas . Can't find news anywhere.

Topic in the transfer forum, seems to have been released by mutual consent but no confirmation yet as far as I know

charliemike · « **Reply #7 on:** September 03, 2013, 05:34:49 PM »

Thanks old bury

WBArgo · « **Reply #8 on:** September 03, 2013, 05:51:00 PM »

I personally believe Clarke has his favourites. Sadly he favours Dorrans over Brunt - which means he seems him as superior. Say what you like about Brunt, he's a better player than Dorrans and although he's no superman, he still should have more game time than he currently gets.

BrummieBaggie68 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 03, 2013, 05:57:56 PM »

Quote from: WBArgo on September 03, 2013, 05:51:00 PM

I personally believe Clarke has his favourites. Sadly he favours Dorrans over Brunt - which means he seems him as superior. Say what you like about Brunt, he's a better player than Dorrans and although he's no superman, he still should have more game time than he currently gets.

A lot of last season it seemed the other way around though.

LiamTheBaggie · « **Reply #10 on:** September 03, 2013, 05:58:33 PM »

I could understand the calls for him to be dropped previously but I cannot fathom how Shane Long can be picked ahead of him in the wide role despite being very ineffective when he's been asked to fulfill that role.

We've strengthened the squad now with the additions of those from last night so first team opportunities will be even more limited for Chris Brunt which is a shame as I do believe there's a good player in there somewhere - one which just at the moment isn't firing for one reason or another. We usually end up losing bodies in and around the Christmas period so being able to call on his ability and experience shall be important - one thing I do hope though is in a desperate panic to fit him in, Clarke doesn't utilise him in a central midfield role which just makes him a glaring weakness.

BrummieBaggie68 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 03, 2013, 06:03:15 PM »

Quote from: WBArgo on September 03, 2013, 05:51:00 PM

I personally believe Clarke has his favourites. Sadly he favours Dorrans over Brunt - which means he seems him as superior. Say what you like about Brunt, he's a better player than Dorrans and although he's no superman, he still should have more game time than he currently gets.

Also, I dont think brunt is a better player than Dorrans. He's a quite different player, but I'd prefer Dorrans more of the time. Both will struggle for starts from now on though, I think.

OldburyWBA · « **Reply #12 on:** September 03, 2013, 06:08:22 PM »

Quote from: BrummieBaggie68 on September 03, 2013, 06:03:15 PM

Also, I dont think brunt is a better player than Dorrans. He's a quite different player, but I'd prefer Dorrans more of the time. Both will struggle for starts from now on though, I think.

I agree different players, one is a centre midfielder, one is wide midfielder. I think both may struggle to gets regular starts from now on depending on the way we line up

Chipperfan · « **Reply #13 on:** September 03, 2013, 08:50:34 PM »

Tell you what, that first goal against Villa, you know the one, the ultra precise side foot in from the edge of the box that got us into the game, would not have been scored by anyone else in our squad.

For me Brunt should start for us.

Standaman · « **Reply #14 on:** September 03, 2013, 09:04:24 PM »

I like Brunt in his best position of wide left I don't think he is a terrible option as an attacking central midfielder but I truly hate the option of him as defensive midfielder.

I am utterly perplexed as to why Clarke excluded him from the first 3 line ups when we were short of players to play out wide. Now the squad is relatively well stocked for them I fear he will not get a look in under Clarke

tuamigos · « **Reply #15 on:** September 03, 2013, 09:08:47 PM »

Maybe Clark was making a point to JP regarding the squads shortfall

Chipperfan · « **Reply #16 on:** September 03, 2013, 09:16:07 PM »

Quote from: standaman on September 03, 2013, 09:04:24 PM

I am utterly perplexed as to why Clarke excluded him from the first 3 line ups when we were short of players to play out wide.

It's on the list with being utterly perplexed about persisting with a sub standard left back, playing Morrison as a winger against Southampton, using Long as a winger against Swansea and not playing Anelka and Rosenberg together in a competitive match despite pairing them in almost every pre season game.

jonny · « **Reply #17 on:** September 03, 2013, 11:13:47 PM »

Hasn't he been injured?

TheJacko2000 · « **Reply #18 on:** September 04, 2013, 02:34:18 AM »

I can only think it is because he was injured for the final game of pre-season and Clarke doesn't feel a Dorrans or Long has played badly enough to change anything

I still think Brunt will be a regular starter despite the influx in midfield.

Adder · « **Reply #19 on:** September 04, 2013, 07:35:24 AM »

...and Brunt hasn't played well enough in the last 2 seasons to be considered an automatic selection.

BRANDHALL_REGGIE · « **Reply #20 on:** September 04, 2013, 08:26:54 AM »

He's been poor for the last couple of seasons IMO and all he seems to do lately is point and moan at others but when he used to play wide I think his distribution was first class and now feel his chance's are limited and I'm glad he's no longer team captain as definitely not a leader on the pitch

beechyboy90 · « **Reply #21 on:** September 04, 2013, 09:48:37 AM »

from what i have seen of sincliar he looks like he can go missing for large parts of a match.

brunt doesnt hide even when he is having a mare, and is far better at retaining possession and is definatly te best crosser of the ball from open play and set pieces.

some games a pacey winger may not be the answer!

not suggesting hes an automatic starter but he is definatly a better option than long, or dorrans or even morrison on the wing. however signings made we migt see him marginalised from team. clarke slowly driving out who he doesnt like

devonbaggiecjaj · « **Reply #22 on:** September 04, 2013, 10:09:13 AM »

Quote from: beechyboy90 on September 04, 2013, 09:48:37 AM

from what i have seen of sincliar he looks like he can go missing for large parts of a match.

brunt doesnt hide even when he is having a mare, and is far better at retaining possession and is definatly te best crosser of the ball from open play and set pieces.

some games a pacey winger may not be the answer!

not suggesting hes an automatic starter but he is definatly a better option than long, or dorrans or even morrison on the wing. however signings made we migt see him marginalised from team. clarke slowly driving out who he doesnt like

Or do the job he is asking them to do, this is clarke's team now and he will be the one falling on his sword if it fails from now on

Adder · « **Reply #23 on:** September 04, 2013, 12:24:23 PM »

Quote from: beechyboy90 on September 04, 2013, 09:48:37 AM

from what i have seen of sincliar he looks like he can go missing for large parts of a match.

brunt doesnt hide even when he is having a mare, and is far better at retaining possession and is definatly te best crosser of the ball from open play and set pieces.

some games a pacey winger may not be the answer!

not suggesting hes an automatic starter but he is definatly a better option than long, or dorrans or even morrison on the wing. however signings made we migt see him marginalised from team. clarke slowly driving out who he doesnt like

most wingers of the Sinclair type do go missing for periods - for a start if they stay on their wing to provide width and the ball isn't fed into those areas then they won't feature much for those periods. Peach of a ball in from Sinclair for Morrison's botched header 1st half Saturday.

Northfield-Baggie · « **Reply #24 on:** September 04, 2013, 03:28:43 PM »

As stated previously, Brunt for me should have started ahead of Shane Long on the right where quite obviously Long is very ineffective (anyone sitting in the lower half of the Brummie in the second half against Swansea would have seen how frustrated Shane was). Although Brunt is well known for his left wing crossing ability, I have always been of the opinion that he should play in a central role where he can retain possession and use his assist ability at it's best. He also has think he has good passing ability for the diagonal ball.... I appreciate he is not going to get in front of Yacob or Mulumbu in that role until they become unavailable for selection or drop a considerable amount of form, but i believe this is where Clarke see's Brunt playing this season when given opportunity to do so.