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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Tony Mowbray
« on: February 19, 2024, 02:39:06 PM »
Quite a bolt out of the blue, hopefully it's nothing too serious?

Given the set date 6-8 weeks, hopefully it's something within his control, i.e. not cancer. I know heart operations take a lot longer to heal from as well so touch wood it's not life threatening.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Guochuan Lai
« on: February 16, 2024, 11:01:14 AM »
There was a report done by someone who specialised in the Chinese economy which suggested that Chinese consortiums had taken an interest in Midlands club to benefit their steel productions off the back of HS2.

Lai, if he specialises in anything, would surely have seen some property developments to accompany the HS2 works which would have made us an attractive prospect to his investors.

However, HS2 stalled and the Chinese Government pulled up the draw bridge and the rest is history.

Yes, I remember seeing a Youtube video on this a few years back as us, Wolves, and Villa all had Chinese owners around that time before their government pulled the plug. Because of this, I also believe that Fosun will eventually leave the Wolves within the next few seasons as the money has gone and it's no longer worth it. This can be seen with their lack of recent investment, coupled with the Chinese stock market bombing last week.

Basically, normality looks to be around the corner as far as black country football is concerned  8)

General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« on: February 15, 2024, 08:36:25 PM »
deluded Mancs, Geordies are bigger club (financially) now and will be in future.

Not if FFP has anything to do with it. They are under very tight rules which may harm their potential to grow/improve. It is quite cruel when teams of the past (such as Man Utd) have got away with it. However, it may not be as bad a move as you think. Historically Ashworth seems to move around quite a bit too.

General Football & Sports / Re: Ex Players Thread
« on: February 15, 2024, 03:32:32 PM »
Not an ex-player, but an ex-manager. Roy Hodgson has been taken ill during training at Crystal Palace. Hope he gets well soon.

Hope he is ok, it's probably an indicator that he should retire. Aside from his health, I think he was on a hiding to nothing this season with the lack of summer signings in a stale team/losing Zaha. It's unsurprising they're struggling.

General Football & Sports / Re: Ex Players Thread
« on: February 15, 2024, 01:49:31 PM »
I was diagnosed with UC in December, it is a horrible, horrible disease. Makes me realize just how disgusting the old Darren Fletcher chants from opposing fans were.

General Football & Sports / Re: Ex Players Thread
« on: February 14, 2024, 02:50:42 PM »
Gary Rowett made an interesting point on length of contracts on TV last night, apparently a 5 1/2 year contract can have a 6 month (or any length) severance clause within it, limiting what payment liability exists.

The length of the contract can be largely immaterial apparently.

Yes, that is what Mike Ashley did with Alan Pardew at Newcastle years back. Many were shocked at the time that he'd been given a 7 year deal when in reality it wasn't that simple.

Last Match Forum - 13/02 Cardiff City (H) / Re: After Match Debate
« on: February 13, 2024, 10:04:49 PM »
Really pleased with that. Interesting to see some making out that Pieters was almost finished before tonight and then he put in a very solid performance. Next game we will have Ajayi + Diangana back too.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Brandon Thomas-Asante
« on: February 13, 2024, 10:03:41 PM »
Don’t care what anybody says,he’s shocking,can’t control ,can’t pass ,can’t hold the ball up ,doesn’t make intelligent runs !running around like a headless chicken don’t do it for me ,you can see when fellows and Wallace put crosses in they get frustrated

He's also our top scorer. Without him we barely have a striker (Marshall is too young/unproven). Seriously, what are we meant to do? Without him we'd be well outside the play-offs this season. He's not the best but that's where we are now and moaning is pointless. I'd like Rodri in the middle but for now we have Mowatt.

Last Match Forum - 13/02 Cardiff City (H) / Re: In Game Chat
« on: February 13, 2024, 09:04:19 PM »
Cardiff will have to open up more in the second half which will only help us.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Action For Albion/ Potential Takeover
« on: February 13, 2024, 09:56:24 AM »
Problem is sites like West Brom News are run by bigger companies, in this case its Breaking Media and they have sites for various clubs around the country, all they do is take bits and pieces from anywhere they can find and issue it as breaking news, exclusives etc when all it is is rehashed junk 99% of the time.

Yeah, it's a very good business model, albeit it churns out crappy news stories. There's one I saw the other day called Baggies news and they owner has almost 100 different club sites. I remember West Brom News had a headline a few months back that was something like 'Corberan will be furious with Diangana' - Basically the story was that Diangana was subbed at half time for the Congo. Turns out he had a knock or something. The entire article was based on the possibility that he was subbed off in a friendly at half time due to a bad game. It was absurd and I don't know how they spun it into an article.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Warming up
« on: February 12, 2024, 09:36:30 PM »
I doubt it's something as basic as a warm up causing injuries and is more likely to be due to training methods. That said, I would not include Dike in this conversation who seems injury prone.

Last Match Forum - 13/02 Cardiff City (H) / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: February 10, 2024, 05:56:21 PM »
Regardless of how serious or not their injuries are i think we can count Dike and Bartley out of this.

What's that now then? 10 players out?

Ajayi and Diangana back in the UK by this game but will they be given this game off to re-adjust and, in the case of Ajayi, rest?

I'd expect them both to be on the bench at least. If Diangana doesn't start then that means he's barely played for Congo meaning he could also start. We could put Pieters out for this one. I don't think he's been that bad this season.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: February 10, 2024, 02:35:43 PM »
I'll take that. Yes we conceded late but it could have easily been 3-2 after the equaliser. A big effort from the players today and never easy when you get two injured players.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: February 10, 2024, 02:23:33 PM »
Great effort from Wallace.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Daryl Dike
« on: February 10, 2024, 02:13:35 PM »
Could just be the bad ankle that he tweaked the other day? I hope so but it doesn't look good given his history.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: February 10, 2024, 01:59:06 PM »
Yeah, not his fault at all - looks to be a genetic thing, such a shame - he seems like a great lad.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: February 10, 2024, 01:54:28 PM »
Scary times

Indeed but taking Yokusulu out of his natural position worsens the middle but he's not a natural CB either.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: February 10, 2024, 01:50:38 PM »
We put Yokusulu at CB before and it doesn't work, I'd rather have PIeters in there.

Almost 2-1 with the hand of Wei  ;D

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: February 10, 2024, 12:54:53 PM »
This kid is something special. Every game he's been class for us.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: February 10, 2024, 10:38:56 AM »
Although we're poor away from home I think we can get something today. I don't think Ipswich will drop out the play-offs but I think their league position has been a little false compared to how good they are. We shall see anyway!

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Cedric Kipre
« on: February 05, 2024, 06:09:20 PM »
Looking at it from his perspective, would you want to sign a new deal?

He's been here 3 and a half years, and yesterday was (according to Albion social media) his 50th game for us. He's been out on loan previously, and when he hasn't been he hadn't played much until this season. In that spell, he's had 5 permanent managers (Bilic, Allardyce, Ishmael, Bruce, Corberan), only one of whom has played him regularly.

There's also the financial situation of the club; he's only going to get a decent offer from us if we get promotion or there's a takeover, neither of which is guaranteed.

I wouldn't expect him to hang around.

No way. He's 27 and could get a 3 year deal at a club like Brentford or Fulham pretty easily in my opinion. This would mean he'd be able to significantly enhance his wage. Let's say it's currently on £12k p/w - he could easily double it and get a premier league move. This season he's earned it. There isn't much point in him staying here based on this.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: February 03, 2024, 05:42:50 PM »
Happy with the result, but not how we played. The defence was nervous all game and it shone through. The initial forward set up was dire, even though Wallace and Fellows tried.

I felt we looked worse at the back when Kipre went off which makes sense considering we didn't have a proper CB to replace him with. As for Fellows, it wasn't his fault as the ref was awful and didn't punish Blues for a number of cynical fouls on him throughout.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: February 02, 2024, 09:33:56 AM »
A bit more nervous about this one now they've got Mowbray in. Will be interesting to see some of our new players on the bench. Hopefully we can return to winning ways!

« on: February 01, 2024, 09:02:39 PM »
Till the end of the season we now have:

Diangana, Fellows, Wallace, Swift, Pipa, Weimann, Reach, Johnston who can all play on the wing.

One of our main issues last season was injuries at this stage. At least we are well-stocked this season.

General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« on: February 01, 2024, 08:59:19 PM »
I just cant take to Klopp as a person, whenever something goes against him he turns nasty. His defenders will say it's a high pressure job, but he trades on this "nice guy" persona but he clearly isn't. I'll still remember his weird comments after the draw in our relegation season.

All that said, if I needed a manager to both win the league with a topclub, or keep a no hoper up on a small budget, I'd pick Klopp over anyone in world football. He is the ultimate all rounder - the Sebastian Leob to Guardiola's Lewis Hamilton.

I agree, but also think a lot of the top managers are like that. You could say similar for Guardiola, Mourinho, Ferguson etc.

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