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Actions have led to Nicola Richards MP addressing our issues and other clubs in the same boat in the houses of parliament today. Good stuff
Sadly, football is filled with slick talking chairmen and Gourlay is no different. Praise up your positives whilst glossing over the negatives.
I'm glad you read my original post again.
Yes, the board were definitely correct in saying no to a 20 year old who had just scored 16 in the prem, and instead wasting £5m on injury prone sick vic. Instead of sanctioning the Rom deal it was correct for us, that the "board" sanctioned scumbag Peace's loan to himself of £4m and the £1m a year he paid himself as well. It was also,definitely correct that the "board" said yes to buying t urd after t urd like unproven in the prem, Ideye Brown, on whom we lost £4m after just one season with us.
Furthermore, please tell me where we were, as you say, and at what stage would we need to be at for you deem a decision by the board to make that Lukaku signing?
As I remember it, we had finished in our highest position in over 30 years and been in the prem a few years. The money gained for just finishing 8th would have paid the loan fee on its own. The loan had an option to buy and the loan fee (£5m) was to be taken off the sale price (£28m) if the option to buy was activated, as I recall.
Also, if it's someone else's money why do you post on threads about money like this Lai one, as according to you that's his money isn't it?
Forgive me if this is a silly question but if they’ve terminated his contract, where does that leave us with the remaining payments?
I’m sure I read we were being paid £4m per year over 4 years.
If that were true there'd be plenty of better players than Pereira moving to Saudi Arabia. Premier league clubs aren't exactly paying pittances and he'd have been on a huge wage if he'd left us to another club. If he'd continued to star in the premier he would have been well into a 6 figure a week contract.
Still the club was very silly on this, we should have got at least 25m for him - the idea we had to sell him to the club offering the highest wages makes zero sense, otherwise teams like City and Chelsea would rarely pay high fees. Looking at the fees Benrahma and Buendia who were a similar age but without the premier league pedigree he'd shown, its absurd how cheaply he went. 17m wouldn't even buy you a top championship player.
Yeah but Yokuslu isn't all about the money. Pereira is just a mercenary (as is his right)
Without Gourlay we have no firewall at all to stop Lai taking more money out of the club. Lai cannot be trusted, Ken, his lackey who signed off on the previous loan cannot be trusted. The only other guy on the board looks after the ticket office and club shop and has zero clout. Gourlay walking would be a disaster IMV; and I can't get my head around fans trying to blame him for the owners action and inaction. He has been as honest and direct with fans as he can be. Nor does it make any sense to want the guy who appointed Corberan and works with him and the only guy in the boardroom with experience in the industry to leave the club.
Have another read of what I wrote and you'll see we said no to paying the £5m loan fee Everton agreed to pay, and I didn't say we didn't try to get him.
We all remember that day clearly with the sky sports reporter stating he was coming back to us until Everton offered Chelsea a £5m loan fee which we didn't match.
Hi gazberg, from memory he basically explained to highlight the important point that AfA have managed to arrange a meeting with RG and other execs later today. Knowall Jordan proclaimed that its not that important and frankly a pointless meeting because the executives are in the pay of Lai.
As the owner Lai, Jordan said he paid 200 mill for the club hes the owner and can do what he likes(although i would argue that he actually cant do what he likes) and that if it was Jordan owning the club he may listen to the questions but then say "ill do what i like im the owner" so much for a healthy relstionship betwixt long time and club caring supporters and the owner, the arrogance of the guy and White isnt any better im very glad hes no part of our club.
May i respectfullyy suggest thst Everton supporters try something similar with their club otherwise these so called owners will walk all over supporters and choose to take loans from clubs and say ill pay it back sometime soon maybe
Again from memory didnt Peace leave a debt in the club thats still unpaid? Could be wrong on that one
Anyway we'll hear more later or tomorrow, hope that helps.
It will - that's where I'm expecting it to go
I totally disagree, we stayed up for 8 years with all our record signings basically failing, because we made some bad recruitment decisions and we didn't generate anything significant regarding player sales apart from berahino's £12m. Good managers and some very good cheap recruitment kept us up using only money generated from being in the prem, and no investment from the Jersey baldy boy, so a lot of money wasn't needed then or now.
We said no to a £5m loan fee for Rom and then he went for £28m to Everton on a permanent deal and then sold to Manchester United for about £70m.
No risk was taken or owner investment given by us in trying to get Rom and we would never have spent £28m on him, yet we stayed up on good frees and low priced foreign players.
Only when we started making stupid signings on loan and permanently on and bad managers did we go down.
The actions of Forest this season and Fulham a few seasons (spending £30m on Seri etc, etc) shows lots of money guarantee's you nothing.
A good owner with a plan, and a good manager and recruitment can stay in the prem for very long periods.
The big 6 clubs spend "lots" to win the league and champions league, etc, etc.
However, anything can happen to the other 14 clubs in the prem regarding relegation in most seasons, as West Ham and Everton are showing now having spent vast sums, and spending lots of money (badly) hasn't helped them avoid being relegation candidates.
There are a lot of Americans buying into prem clubs, who aren't fools like Lai, and know that a well run club doesn't need lots of money to be spent, it just needs good management and recruitment and the money generated lets them make a profit.
So imo relegation can happen to most teams in any season and spending lots isn't necessary to avoid it though for the aforementioned reasons.
From Konur
🚨 Nottingham Forest and Southampton are in the race to sign Hull City striker Oscar Estupinan.
🟡#HCFC 🔴#NFFC 🔴#SaintsFC
Could be a quick profit for Hull who probably will have a nothing season.
I posted on the In Game Thread at 2-0 that we would find out how much spine this lot have - got my answer
Great win, and great effort all around - especially Yokuslu, Molumby and Dara.
Brilliant s**thousery in the last 15 mins to kill the clock. I reckon that Diego Simeone would have been proud of that effort.
How not to do it!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64275576
