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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Tony Mowbray

« on: April 19, 2025, 03:21:46 PM »

Read to me as a man using the previous manager to try and excuse his shortcomings. In a ‘we are so poor because the previous manager was so negative and played on the counter attack whereas I am trying to dominate games’. Either way, it’s a cop out and the statement of a man who is painfully out of his depth here and needs to walk away from it whilst he has dignity in tact.

As I said what was the question he was asked?

His main fault is trying to change it too quickly as timdon said.

The board are also at fault for not looking for someone with a known similar playing style or then are the players at fault for not being prepared to change.

Its not as simplistic as blaming one individual.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Tony Mowbray

« on: April 19, 2025, 03:07:54 PM »

I understand that, but why did he need to come out publicly and say that? What does it achieve exactly? Also, maybe given that the players have been used to a very different system for the last 2+years, maybe Mowbray would have been better introducing his liking for a more attacking system more gradually, rather than just ripping everything up immediately?

It doesn't state what the question was that he answered though.

Another sensational headline with an article with little to go on.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Tony Mowbray

« on: April 19, 2025, 02:54:02 PM »

I don't see him as being disrespectful either, as said he's stating that its difficult to change the way they play as its been drilled into them a different way for 2 year, maybe the owners should have gone for someone with a similar style to Corberan and not someone who is well known to play a different way.

No, its not working and something needs to change.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Tony Mowbray

« on: April 18, 2025, 07:34:37 PM »

The main difference though, is that Fritzl is 100% correct (in my opinion of course  )

Don't encourage him pleaaasssseeeeee!!!

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Tony Mowbray

« on: April 18, 2025, 07:20:25 PM »

Fair enough guys it's all.about opinions.  None of us will ever know either way sadly.

Just another season that burnt out. Ugh ??

And thats what the forum is for.

We all have them and all believe we're right (eh Fritzl!!  )

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Tony Mowbray

« on: April 18, 2025, 07:19:36 PM »

So if anything they get an easy ride from Mowbray? Because they certainly don’t from the fans.

Corberan had to convert Diangana to a number 10 because Swift was so bad there. The first thing Mowbray did was reinstate both Wallace and Swift into the starting XI, the two players who’ve had the opposite of an easy ride from the fans.

If Carols had Price at his disposal we’d never have seen Racic or Swift in the side.

I can't comment on Mowbray and the players whether they get easy ride, I don't see them together but a few need rockets up their jacksies.

Swift has made 37 appearances this season so has been used by both of them, Diangana 33.

We didn't have Price then so the point is moot.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Tony Mowbray

« on: April 18, 2025, 07:16:56 PM »

Fritzl remains here regardless 

Bet you’re delighted about that 

Always a pleasure 

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Tony Mowbray

« on: April 18, 2025, 06:57:06 PM »

People who are strangely quiet now as it happens…

And is that any different to any situation ?

We win - the detractors go quiet and we have the holier than thou brigade

We lose - the detractors are vocal and the holier than thou go quiet.

Swings and roundabouts

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Tony Mowbray

« on: April 18, 2025, 06:52:44 PM »

I'm not sure about that. We all know the ones who aren't up to it, they've let us down time and time again. They get dogs abuse on social media. But if Mowbray continues to pick them then it's on him at the end of the day.

I've never known anything like it with the Swift situation. To hang your job and reputation on a player who wasn't even that good at his absolute peak, which was before he even joined the club, is a hard one to make sense of.

And yet they still get picked.

Swift 37 appearances this season, Diangana 33, Racic 22 before he left.

I take no interest in anyone abusing players on social media.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Tony Mowbray

« on: April 18, 2025, 06:50:39 PM »

Was 2 wins in the last 3 under Corberan. I’m not sure you can group the games under the two managers the same as you seem to be doing, they are poles apart. Yes, the players deserve holding to account too, but things are just inherently awful under this manager as much as you seem to want to shift the blame away from him.

WLWLWLWLWLW was what everyone kept promising me, and entertaining attacking football. Where is it?

They can be grouped together as they have both contributed to the season.

Where have I shifted the blame other than to the players as they as I keep saying are getting an easy ride.

Did I want Mowbray? no I didn't.

Who kept promising anything? certainly wasn't me.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Tony Mowbray

« on: April 18, 2025, 06:43:18 PM »

Agreed, some of them are. But it's Mowbray who keeps picking them, and therefore facilitates them getting an easy ride, so he has to take responsibility. Also, if you were in the shoes of Swift or Diangana, why would you be putting everything on the line when you know you won't be here in 3 matches time?

And they were also being picked under Corberan, how many posts did we have criticising the changes then with the same players coming on?

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Tony Mowbray

« on: April 18, 2025, 06:36:39 PM »

Remit was to finish in the playoffs. Corberan had us there for 2 years straight, Mowbray has came in and turned us into midtable dross.

The draws were annoying but he didn't have Armstrong, Lankshear, Dike, Price or Bany to call upon. He was forced to run Maja and previously BTA into the ground as he only ever had 1 fit striker in his squad. Mowbray had more backing in January than Corberan ever had at this club.

I'm not defending Mowbray or criticising Corberan, if you read my posts i'm saying the players themselves are getting an easy ride.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Tony Mowbray

« on: April 18, 2025, 06:20:05 PM »

It's not with the same results though is it?

Its not wins though is it?

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Tony Mowbray

« on: April 18, 2025, 06:00:52 PM »

The difference with Corberan is that there were many games where it was very fine lines between those draws and us getting the win. We were doing everything apart from individual players being able to shoot properly or play a decent final ball in the box. I had the impression that some opposition team was going to get a tonking when it all came together on any given day. It didn't help when Maja got injured and Carlos didn't have Dike, Armstrong and Lankshear to call on.

Now we just look awful in every department.

Not disputing that but not very often where it did come together so again why are the players getting an easy ride?

You've had one bloke coaching them to the hilt and another giving them seemingly an easy ride with the same end results.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Tony Mowbray

« on: April 18, 2025, 05:37:00 PM »

It's taken Mowbray 12 weeks to turn a top 6 side with a good mentality into a sloppy bang average team that leaks urine poor goals .  4 points from a possible 18..... Its a damn good job we had a decent start to the season.

We had a great start until Sheffield Wednesday away, since then lots of draws and not too many wins.

We won 5 out of the first 6 so thats 9 wins from the other 37 games, its the lowest in the top half of the table.

Mowbray rightly so takes his share of the blame but before he came there were not to many wins either.

These players are getting an easy ride.

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Last Match Forum - 18/04 Coventry City (A) / Re: After Match Debate

« on: April 18, 2025, 05:25:00 PM »

Too many artists and not enough warriors etc still rings true around our squad.

We have one bloke who likes a fight but he literally wants to start a fight most games.

We need a more tempered approach

He's not a leader, as you say he likes a fight and thats it, Andy Johnson has mentioned a few times how the rest of them like to wind him up.

Not one leader in that squad.

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Last Match Forum - 18/04 Coventry City (A) / Re: After Match Debate

« on: April 18, 2025, 05:15:54 PM »

Mowbray doesn't seem to have any "Go" in him, so how can he motivate players?

Sometimes they have to motivate themselves, who is the leader in this squad? Who's the one's to get up and in the face of the others to tell them they're bottling it?

In the past he had Robinson, Morrison (who I know is on the staff), Phillips, Clement.

We have no-one like that.

A manager can only do so much.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Tom Fellows

« on: April 16, 2025, 06:45:16 PM »

Still think it's a wrong decision regardless,this is  by no means certain at all,what if he doesn't want to go,what if the manager and owners don't want to sell him,they want to build a young team that includes him,you guys don't know anything apart from putting 2 & 2 together,with respect
Sometimes the obvious isn't always right or true,just because you say it doesn't mean it's right

At the moment finances dictate what happens to any of our players which is why Palmer left in January. We're not in a position to turn money down.

If the manager doesn't want to sell, basically its tough as he would be over-ruled and I guess no player would turn down a move to a Premier League club with a massive increase in wages and a chance to play on a better stage.

Best we could hope for is for him to be loaned back to us for a year if a move came about.

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General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL CHAMPIONSHIP THREAD

« on: April 12, 2025, 07:23:18 PM »

What's he done??

Plymouth players celebrating in front of the Sheffield United fans and he confronted them

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General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL CHAMPIONSHIP THREAD

« on: April 10, 2025, 01:50:29 PM »

We will have to reach an impasse there, because I do not see a world where either of us will ever have the inclination to check that far back 

I do recall another lengthy argument I had with another member on here, who no longer posts on here, where I advocated the appointment of Marco Silva during the summer before Pulis ended up leaving and look what Silva has gone on to do.

I may book some annual leave and spend it going through my 5,000 forum posts to pick out the immense genius and soothsayer ability just for you 

I do remember the Marco Silva debate 

No way i'm going back through all my posts unfortunately. 

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General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL CHAMPIONSHIP THREAD

« on: April 10, 2025, 01:22:24 PM »

Still waiting for evidence that I have been wrong in my time here 

Who was the one who called Pulis and Bruce nice and early ahead of everyone else finally getting on board? Same applies with our current incumbent.

Unfortunately I don't have the time or indeed the interest to look back over members posts to try and point score so cannot verify if you have always been right or not. There was also some disinterest in the Mowbray appointment from a number of members.

But to be fair calling out the two appointments  is not something you were alone with as they were not universally popular appointments as no doubt posts of the time would show so not something you can claim as you were the one to kick it off.

Feel free to go back and check though as I ain't doing it 

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jayson Molumby

« on: April 10, 2025, 01:04:53 PM »

I've watched it back and the ref is already reaching for his back pocket before Molumby really gets in the players face.

To be his foot is on the air but it's hip to hip contact - the foot is incidental - it's not like he goes studs in on his knee.

Problem is he raised it giving a decision to be made, stupid and reckless challenge just because they didn't put the ball out, they didn't have to and that late in the game going for a winner no team would.

In realtime its easier to see why it was given and was right in front of the ref.

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General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL CHAMPIONSHIP THREAD

« on: April 10, 2025, 12:58:52 PM »

Whatever......

......I'm just glad you haven't mentioned it's because you're always right  .

Never wrong apparently 

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jayson Molumby

« on: April 10, 2025, 12:55:26 PM »

If you put your foot in that high then you are giving the ref a decision to make, I have no issues with the red, fully deserved for me.

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Last Match Forum - 08/04 Bristol City (A) / Re: After Match Debate

« on: April 08, 2025, 09:46:07 PM »

He didn't stud him though. A 'high foot' isn't an automatic red card.

Molumby has had a red coming though

Doesn't matter if he studded him or not, you put your foot that high you run the risk and he deservedly got a red.

Five years ago its a yellow, these days its a straight red, games changed