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« Reply #5150 on: April 06, 2016, 01:52:05 PM »
Does it stop people piling in at the death and effectively buying money?

Actually I believe it is the exact opposite.

I believe bookies pay out bets early primarily for publicity, and secondarily in the hope that punters will pile on all their winnings on something else before the season is out.

Im very surprised if its true bookies are paying out already as the odds are still only 1/3 1/4 ish. Usually, I would expect the odds to be at least 1/10 and more like 1/20 before the bookies start paying out.

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« Reply #5151 on: April 08, 2016, 08:00:47 AM »
Why do bookies do this?

In the long term do (major) bookies ever significantly lose? How many acounts will BetFred or Paddy Power have opened on the strength of the additional loss that they may (or may not if Leicester win the title) make that, over time, will provide them with more income than they lose.  ;)
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« Reply #5152 on: April 09, 2016, 03:41:46 PM »
Toon looking doomed
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« Reply #5153 on: April 09, 2016, 03:48:32 PM »
Yes Bournemouth!!
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« Reply #5154 on: April 09, 2016, 03:53:09 PM »
Yes Bournemouth!!

Could be party time soon  :D

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« Reply #5155 on: April 09, 2016, 04:19:01 PM »
3-0 Southampton. Nice to know Villa won't be the biggest club in the championship next season  ;)

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« Reply #5156 on: April 10, 2016, 03:01:53 PM »
Leicester 1 up Vardy

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« Reply #5157 on: April 10, 2016, 03:31:45 PM »
Finished 2-0 to Leicester. If Sunderland had won they would have mathematically relegated Villa I think, as Sunderland and Norwich have to play each other next week. At least that's what I saw somewhere else
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« Reply #5158 on: April 10, 2016, 04:30:13 PM »
Finished 2-0 to Leicester. If Sunderland had won they would have mathematically relegated Villa I think, as Sunderland and Norwich have to play each other next week. At least that's what I saw somewhere else

Correct Mark. Villa now have to win at Old Trafford next week and hope Norwich lose to take it on another week.
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« Reply #5159 on: April 10, 2016, 06:22:41 PM »
Norwich, 4th from bottom, are 15 points ahead of Villa. Villa can only pick up 15 points and there is a 19 point goal difference to overturn. It might not be in bold but the R has definitely been pencilled in.
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« Reply #5160 on: April 10, 2016, 06:44:30 PM »
Norwich, 4th from bottom, are 15 points ahead of Villa. Villa can only pick up 15 points and there is a 19 point goal difference to overturn. It might not be in bold but the R has definitely been pencilled in.
Also it would mean that Norwich, Sunderland and Newcastle have to lose every match.
Villa must win by 4 clear goals in each of their remaining 5 matches.

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« Reply #5161 on: April 11, 2016, 08:13:58 AM »
Also it would mean that Norwich, Sunderland and Newcastle have to lose every match.
Villa must win by 4 clear goals in each of their remaining 5 matches.

It really could happen - there could be 4 clear goals in each of their matches!

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« Reply #5162 on: April 11, 2016, 08:31:43 AM »
It really could happen - there could be 4 clear goals in each of their matches!

Norwich have to play Sunderland so both of them can't lose
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« Reply #5163 on: April 11, 2016, 11:09:49 AM »
Norwich have to play Sunderland so both of them can't lose

Any result other than a Sunderland win sends Vile down.
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« Reply #5165 on: April 11, 2016, 09:22:35 PM »
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« Reply #5166 on: April 11, 2016, 09:58:36 PM »
They wont be the only club that have done such things to get around FFP rules but it looks to be as blatant an example as you are likely to find. Sure they will get away with just a fine and it will be swept under the carpet to keep their 'fairy tale' season seen in a positive light even thought they clearly benefited from bending the rules before they got to the Premier League in the first place.
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« Reply #5167 on: April 11, 2016, 10:39:15 PM »
A points deduction would be sooooooooo funny!!

The League has no sanction other than a fine if the club escapes to the Premier League which is why a number of clubs have chanced their arm and flouted the rules. However if they don't escape things can get more than a little difficult e.g. Forrest.  I will be interested to see how 'Boro get on if they fail to go up. 
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« Reply #5168 on: April 11, 2016, 11:15:52 PM »
There was mention in the media about a possible "doping scandal" a couple of weeks ago

but here in Sydney I have heard nothing else...

So did it have any legs or was it just a media fabrication?

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« Reply #5169 on: April 12, 2016, 01:02:52 AM »

Newcastle United are facing the nightmare prospect of paying Jonjo Shelvey £80,000 a week in the Championship after failing to negotiate a wage cut in the event of relegation.

With Rafa Benitez urging owner Mike Ashley to launch a root and branch review of the way the club is run, Newcastle will have major financial problems if they fail to win an increasingly hopeless relegation battle.

Shelvey signed a five-and-a-half year contract in January, but does not have a clause that automatically reduces his salary if the club drop out of the Premier League.

The England midfielder is determined to stay on Tyneside, whatever the outcome of Newcastle’s relegation battle after securing regular first-team football since his £12million move from Swansea.

Shelvey is not the only high profile player on Tyneside who does not have a relegation clause inserted into their contract and it is understood none of the players signed in January will take an automatic wage cut in the Championship.

Ashley has spent a lot of money this season
France international Moussa Sissoko is another who does not have a cause that will force him to reduce his £55,000-a-week wage packet, although Newcastle will be keen to find a buyer for the former Toulouse player, even if they stay up, as his poor form has become a major concern.

Shelvey will be one of the highest paid players to ever feature in the Championship after the club neglected to include a salary reduction.

Scott Parker, the Fulham midfielder, is alleged to have earned £75,000 a week last season, but Shelvey is on course to beat that.

It is understood there is also no release clause in Shelvey’s contract which allows him to leave for a set price though Andros Townsend, another January signing, can leave for £8million.

Shelvey is settled at Newcastle, however, and a club source insisted the 24-year-old is “in it for the long haul” after becoming a high-profile capture in January. He was given the captaincy by McClaren during the absence of Fabricio Coloccini and has made 11 starts.

Newcastle remain in the bottom three under McClaren’s successor, Benitez, and are six points adrift of Norwich with an inferior goal difference.

Benitez was furious, both at half-time and after Saturday's 3-1 loss at Southampton, and has been shocked by the mental fragility of the players he inherited from McClaren.

He has questioned the attitude of certain individuals and asked why so many of them they cannot perform as well in matches as they do in training.

The Spaniard was also happy to let Newcastle’s players hold their own heated inquest following the defeat at St Mary’s, in which full-back Daryl Janmaat damaged two fingers after punching a wall in the dressing room.

Janmaat left St. Mary’s Stadium with his arm in a sling after taking out his anger on a wall, following his early exit from the game with a groin injury.

There were also furious exchanges between players at half-time after conceding two goals in a shambolic display.

Daryl Janmaat damaged two fingers after punching a wall in the dressing room at St Mary's
However, Benitez has put an arm around his shell-shocked players since those rows in the hope of extracting a far better performance from them in the home game against Swansea City on Saturday. The Magpies need to win that match to cling on to any realistic hope of avoiding relegation.

Benitez, though, knows huge changes are needed behind the scenes if Newcastle are going to return to their former glory and hopes there will be a review of the club’s transfer policy, scouting network and the Academy set up.

The problem is, although Benitez believes he can dramatically improve the way the club is run, he is almost certain to quit if Newcastle are relegated, which means the summer upheaval will include the search for a third new manager in the space of a year.

Newcastle defender Jamaal Lascelles has admitted Newcastle have to start showing some “fight” as they bid to mount a late revival.

“On paper our team is ridiculous but we need to show more heart. We need players who care and will look after each other, we've lacked it,” he said.

“We've got flair players, tricky players, players with loads of talent but we need more heart, desire and bigger characters on the pitch. No matter how good you are, if you don't have that fight and hunger it doesn't matter."

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/11/newcastle-would-have-to-pay-jonjo-shelvey-80000-a-week-in-the-ch/

Shambles complete and utter shambles. My only hope is that we just don't go anywhere near any of their players if they get relegated obviously rotten to the core .
 
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« Reply #5170 on: April 12, 2016, 11:15:59 AM »

Shambles complete and utter shambles. My only hope is that we just don't go anywhere near any of their players if they get relegated obviously rotten to the core .

If the article linked is correct then to my mind it is financial negligence of the highest order.

As for their players I said toward the end of last season that I wouldn't touch any one of them with a barge pole.

I stand by that remark this season too.
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« Reply #5171 on: April 13, 2016, 08:15:58 PM »
FA CUP...  but this Rashford is some player...

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« Reply #5172 on: April 13, 2016, 08:18:29 PM »
FA CUP...  but this Rashford is some player...

That finish was reminiscent of Berahino. Similar players.
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« Reply #5173 on: April 13, 2016, 08:26:38 PM »
Who would you rather have

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« Reply #5174 on: April 13, 2016, 08:45:19 PM »
Who would you rather have
Would rather have SB if he pulled his finger out..failing that Both !!!