That team looks to weak I don't want us to throw the game, but if we are I would prefer we use our kids rather than mears and hoolahan.
Mine would be:
myhill
Dawson Tosin Hegazi
HRK Harper Barry Townsend
Hoolahan
Burke Rodriguez
Bench: Johnstone Bartley brunt field Livermore Phillips Gayle
Just a few kids and some ammunition on the bench to give it a go if we fall behind.
That team looks to weak I don't want us to throw the game, but if we are I would prefer we use our kids rather than mears and hoolahan.I’d say that playing HRK as a right wing back is closer to throwing a game than playing the likes of Mears and Hoolahan.
Mine would be:
myhill
Dawson Tosin Hegazi
HRK Harper Barry Townsend
Hoolahan
Burke Rodriguez
Bench: Johnstone Bartley brunt field Livermore Phillips Gayle
Just a few kids and some ammunition on the bench to give it a go if we fall behind.
I’d say that playing HRK as a right wing back is closer to throwing a game than playing the likes of Mears and Hoolahan.I think it'll be something like this
I think Palace made plenty of changes for the last round against Swansea so I see no reason why they won’t do that again and I imagine we will do the same. We won’t want to risk anyone if we can help it.
Myhill
Tosin
Hegazi/Bartley
Field
Mears
Harper/Morrison
Barry
Townsend
Hoolahan
Burke
HRK
has anyone got a spare ticket for this one?
has anyone got a spare ticket for this one?
Starting XI: Myhill; Adarabioyo, Hegazi, Field; Mears, Barry (c), Harper, Townsend; Morrison, Hoolahan; Robson-Kanu.
Subs: Bond, Howkins, Brunt, Leko, Edwards, Gayle, Burke.
A line up that comes straight from my "i hope he doesn't do this tonight" checklist.Welcome to every single Darren Moore team selection.
Barry starts, confirming our weekend line up will be the same as usual.
Field starts at centre half rather than in midfield
Youth players jettisoned in favour of shoe horning in senior players.
The line up looks very narrow for me, possibly our most narrow since we went to this formation. Generally we play played 2 forwards who can add width, with Barnes being a ball of energy covering the pitch. In the league cup, we had 3 wide forwards making up the front 3.
This time, it is 2 central midfielders in front of 2 holding mids, with 1 centre forward up front.
The line up does have the feeling of juet fitting as many senior pros into the team as possible with less regard to balance. Have my doubts.
Welcome to every single Darren Moore team selection.
...who incidentally has transformed our playing style, retained key players and motivated them to perform, brought pride back to the club, increased attendances and taken us to third in the league as most likely the form team in the league. But find a negative anyway...Please accept by apologies, I briefly forgot that I can't criticise our head coach's decisions. All hail our great, infallible leader.
Expected a team like this or similar. Expected Burke to start but no major surprises otherwise. Plenty of know how and top league quality so should provide a stern test for a strong Palace side.
The know how is there, but I worry about the team shape. Even one change would make a formation that could work but this feels like 1 central midfielder too many.
Please accept by apologies, I briefly forgot that I can't criticise our head coach's decisions. All hail our great, infallible leader.
You can say whatever you want - that's the point of the forum. And I can counter your view - that's the point of the forum. I just don't see why you are so negative when we are enjoying our best spell in years. For someone who I recall at one point being a pretty positive person and being equally as concerned as I was about Pulis, your negativity about Moore has been a big surprise to me. But each to their own - that's the point of the forum.
It's actually similar to how I'd like us to play in the league with 2 attacking midfielders instead of a striker playing as an attacking midfielder.
I felt the team shape was quite good with Rod, Gayle and Barnes, no?
Looking for positives, Mozza is back and hopefully ready to push for a place and I get another look at Harper. Also get to see Hoolahan live in an Albion shirt, who, despite me having reservations about him being past is, is a player I have always wanted in an Alvion shirt, just to see his style of play here.
It's actually similar to how I'd like us to play in the league with 2 attacking midfielders instead of a striker playing as an attacking midfielder.
One further point, Mears and Townsend will have to make a lot of forward runs to provide the out balls for Mozza and Hoolahan, as it will be very easy for the defence dealing with HRK (who, despite hus work rate, is not overly mobile).
This looks a very old team.
Have we got any midfielders on? We are second to most balls.
Sky are reporting they should have had a red card, handball and the last man stopping a through ball to HRK. Did anyone see it?
I'd like to see us go to a back 4; Mears, Hegazi, Tosin, Townsend with Hoolahan and Harper sitting, Burke (on for Barry) right, HRK Left, Morrison in the 10 role and Gayle (on for Field)
Sky are reporting they should have had a red card, handball and the last man stopping a through ball to HRK. Did anyone see it?
We have had nobody to pass to when going forward, that is the problem. I said it when I saw the line up and nothing I have seen has proven me wrong.I have my doubts Moore even wants to win the game by using all his sub's and leaving our only bit of pace on the bench with Gayle and Burke.totally baffling
Moore makes 3 changes, all confusing. Edwards, Brunt and Howkins for Barry, Hegazi and Mears. Will never get his subs.
Moore makes 3 changes, all confusing. Edwards, Brunt and Howkins for Barry, Hegazi and Mears. Will never get his subs.
Keystone Kops?
Can someone explain substitions :o that Burke and Gayle haven't been used tonight.Thin squad , if Gayle gets injured we are left with JRod and HRK . Burke I think will never fit in
Can someone explain substitions :o that Burke and Gayle haven't been used tonight.
I think we have played some pretty good stuff. Three nil is very unfair on the team performance.As usual poor at the back but I agree on the rest , played some decent stuff at times.
At least it wasn't a league match.
Crystal Palace showed us the difference between us and a Premiership side.
That gulf is very deep.
They showed us the difference between them and our second string.Our second string needs to be beefed up and recognise what work they have to do.
If anyone didn't see that team selection coming I can only ask where you were for the first 2 rounds?I didn't like the team but you are correct , DM was never going to do anything else . Our squad is wafer thin in areas , reality of relegation.
Can see why Moore doesn't pick these young lads; poor to a man. Townsend absolutely dreadful.
If anyone didn't see that team selection coming I can only ask where you were for the first 2 rounds?
Can see why Moore doesn't pick these young lads; poor to a man. Townsend absolutely dreadful.
Our second string needs to be beefed up and recognise what work they have to do.
Townsend is shocking...but Moore signed the bloke. Much like Mears who is next to useless.Purely because he won't risk the other two on a night like Tonight .
Robson-Kanu is just a waste of a shirt, why are we still picking him?
Clearly, the club are not arsed about this competition.
They could at least be honest & admit they don’t want to be in the league cup, admit they are going to put out a below strength team & reduce the prices to a quid or even make it free entry.
If we are expected to watch a reserve team, at least have the decency to be up front & not take the urine out of the fans & price it appropriately.
Waste of an evening 1st time I have left early in ages. Why didn't he put Gayle on 2nd half against his former club 🤔Maybe because he’s saving him for Saturday. He’s one of our most important players and we need him firing in the league. With all the extra games this season, this cup really was an unwanted risk with our limited squad.
Knocked it around quite well tonight but had zero pace or power upfront to trouble Palace so they toyed with us. Shows how reliant we are on Gayle.
Just got back. The only bright thing tonight was Hoolahan and Mozza's performance. Everything else was brittle and aimless.Exactly! Well summed up.
At 1-0, the game was crying out for Gayle to come on, but instead, DM leaves HRK on, who IS NOT a footballer. Plain and simple. The man steals a living. It seems like it's common sense that DM doesn't have - to play with one player up front, you need that player to be able to hold the ball up. HRK cannot do this and he cannot read passes. A few balls went up to him and while waiting for the arrival, a Palace player nipped in front and pinched it, every time.
The subs baffled me. DM goes from making one or two subs in a game, to making all three at the same time - all making no impact what so ever.
Going by his interview on WM, it seems obvious to me that he took tonight's game as "game time" for some of the players, as opposed to looking to actually win the match. We had no pace, no purpose and no skill.
How many times did Townsend receive the ball out wide, only to turn back and pass it back to Field or Hegazi? It's like DM is scaring them from taking players on.
And how many corners did we have where their first player headed the ball clear? Every single one.
People may say "well it's only the cup", but a game is a game and we should be playing to win every game.
Tonight was gutless from DM.
Not the result you want to discover after a 17 hour day at work >:( To be honest we were fairly fortunate to scrape past Luton and Mansfield and the powers that be clearly have no interest in the competition. Why the hell doesn't he give Field a go in the middle and where was Burke?
Out of interest, did Roy get a good reception?
For those that didn't go (you lucky ....'s):thought the 1st goal was a fantastic strike, however the more I watch it the more I think why was Myhill so far of his line.
https://vimeo.com/291809920
Watching it back, all 3 goals are comical
The line up was pretty much expected but the performance wasn't. We lacked a cutting edge which HRK was never going to provide. Corners were dreadful, no matter who took them, did any get past the first defender?
Myhill should have done better for the first goal,but so should Field although to be fair to him he was played out of position and it was Andros Townsend.
Anyone wondering why the kids don't get a game, there was your evidence.
At least we can concentrate on the league now.
thought the 1st goal was a fantastic strike, however the more I watch it the more I think why was Myhill so far of his line.
Maybe because he’s saving him for Saturday. He’s one of our most important players and we need him firing in the league. With all the extra games this season, this cup really was an unwanted risk with our limited squad.
First chance to post on this but on that evidence very few of our back up/youth players are anywhere near good enough.
Positives
Morrison - Looked sharp, creative and up for it. Unfortunately didn't have the players around him on the same wavelength
Hegazi - Solid until he went off, distribution better than it has been in some recent league games
Negatives
HRK - Awful, barely anything stuck. Every through ball went to a palace player cause he is just to slow. At 0-0 was through on goal due to a defender slip and turned back into the defender!
Myhill - Not seen replays but think he could've done better on the first, his feet didn't get off the ground. Stuck on his line which could and should've led to two more goals at 1-0
Harper - If you take all the bad aspects of Pogba and apply none of the good ones then you have Harper. Sauntering around the pitch, hiding from receiving the ball and backwards/sideways when he has it
Townsend - Looking like a waste of (little) money. Not sure what he has; no pace, not great defensively, can't cross and no skill. As a result lost all confidence in himself
Barry - didn't have a bad game but can barely last a half fitness wise
Field made a few errors but got better on the ball second half and never lost confidence in himself which was good. However two townsend goals came from running at field (almost like he's not a centre back)
The line up was pretty much expected but the performance wasn't. We lacked a cutting edge which HRK was never going to provide. Corners were dreadful, no matter who took them, did any get past the first defender?
Myhill should have done better for the first goal,but so should Field although to be fair to him he was played out of position and it was Andros Townsend.
Anyone wondering why the kids don't get a game, there was your evidence.
At least we can concentrate on the league now.
Would like to make a comment about Tyrone Mears who was utterly dreadful last night. He spent the game hiding and not wanting to receive the ball. It meant that none of our play could come down the right hand side and made it easy for palace to defend against.
I am seriously concerned at what we will do when/if Phillips gets injured
Simply put, we have to get both Phillips and Gibbs through to January unscathed playing every game because the other options in their respective positions are not up to it.
I didn't really care about last night tbh, I know that's sad, but to be devil's advocate what would people on here have been saying today if Barnes, Gayle or Phillips had played and picked up a knock so they missed out on three tough games next week, or worse, got a three month injury?
What kids? That was our OAP team. Field was hung out to dry at centre back. Edwards came on at wing back and Burke and Leko didn't play a minute. Only Harper got a fair chance.
there's 3 then.... plus Townsend and Adabarioyo is still a kid too so that's 5 of the starting 11 ::) Field has played every cup match at the left side of the defensive three so hardly hung out to dry as you said. I'd prefer him to play in midfield myself but in previous rounds he has played well on the left side of defence, last night he was up against better opposition and he looked out of his depth. Harper was pretty anonymous in midfield and Edwards didn't really get involved. Both looked better in earlier rounds against lower league opposition but looked way out of depth last night along with Townsend, who I thought played well when he came on for Gibbs at Norwich and against both Luton and Mansfield but struggled against Blues and last night.
I was surprised that Burke wasn't involved as I thought we needed him and Gayle on but let's be honest, in his admittedly brief cameos for us, Burke has hardly set the world alight.
Simply put, we have to get both Phillips and Gibbs through to January unscathed playing every game because the other options in their respective positions are not up to it.
Townsend is 25...he is not a kid.I stand corrected, I didn't realise Townsend was that old , he looks about 20.
Edwards didn't start, so 3 of the starting 11 were kids.
It's this old thing....if a 'normal' player has a dodgy game we might criticise the performance. If a young player has an off game 'he's not good enough' as though we should ditch him.
Playing in what was a pretty scratch team against Palace isn't that easy. Bringing Harper or Field or Edwards/Burke/Leko into a settled Saturday team would be a different matter.